The Pen Addict 294/transcript

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Myke: The land then this is the pen addict episode two hundred and ninety four today show is brought to you by Harry's squarespace away my name is Mike Conley and I'm joined.
Myke: But right out here.
Brad: Hello my curly hair you.
Myke: Are very good.
Brad: I am very good when you sounded very you sound very good or with like your velvety Kickstarter.

Pen Addict Kickstarter Launch

Myke: I'm very good will consist kick Saddam like he's a an upgrade.
Myke: We launched a Kickstarter project twenty four hours ago.
Myke: For the pen addicts live twenty eighteen Atlanta with a stretch goal of Toronto again against and a little bit but we launched it yesterday because we wanted to have it done before like out before the show.
Myke: Basically just through tweeting and instagramming I'm I was pretty much incessantly tweeting yesterday we met all goal.
Myke: During the wee hours of the morning in the U. K. all I had to go to sleep I was staying awake brat because we were like three hundred dollars away.
Myke: And I was staying awake and I it was getting too late for me so the first thing I did when I open my eyes this one I've got my phone I open chrome because it was already the pages just that race that.
Brad: Yeah.
Myke: Just open constantly and now we we did it because of our credible support from people like you listening we met our goal we had a goal of twelve and a half thousand dollars and what that goal does is makes the Atlanta show happens to the Atlanta show is happening I even put my flights this morning so at Lanter is done but as we mentioned a couple of weeks ago and will reiterate now we have a stretch goal of twenty thousand dollars.
Myke: Have we meet twenty thousand dollars in as of recording right now were fourteen and a half thousand.
Myke: Do twenty thousand them me and Brad will be taking our first trip together outside of the United States as will be going to the Toronto pen show will be doing me talk to you can be selling their if we if we go is that your plan.
Brad: Almost certainly not will seek to be determined it's a one day show I'll have to pack an enormous amount of stuff and then I have to work all day theoretically I could so let's let's call that a maybe I wasn't planning on it in my initial thought if we don.
Myke: Them ma'am grapple be at the show for the whole weekend so we won't be doing a live show is the current plan but we'd be doing a special episode at Toronto and if we both have time because who will be on the floor selling all day we could maybe do some fun things and walk around this show and interview people like man on the street style.
Myke: Does because we'll have the time right because we won't be walking about soft but that's if we meet twenty thousand dollars now.
Brad: Right.
Myke: We have lots of incredible rewards for you this time I think these of the easily the best rules we have a hand and I've been speaking a lot and so Brad do you wanna continue to pimp Kickstarter.
Brad: Yes so real quick on Toronto just a reminder to you and our listeners this is the one day Sunday only show I think it's Sunday.
Myke: I did know that but we can still get it doesn't make a difference was still have nothing right it would accept go around the the the show so.
Brad: Write so we'll make lots of plans to do lots of fun stuff in Toronto we won't just be there that day will be there for a day or two and and do some cool stuff so.
Brad: Yeah the rewards we wanted to do a new case for not we had this one designed late last year were playing around with prototypes you know when a been carried it and this is something we wanted to do forever just the style of case like a swimmer to pocket almost like a breast pocket type of case.
Brad: Even though none of us really carry anything in our breast pocket much anymore but you understand like the style in the shape it's like a slim line to Penn case it doesn't hold a lot except kind of the bare necessities your two pens and and the pocket in it since it's so narrow is only like a business card size pocket but we make a business card size no card that we like so much so it's very useful to us.
Brad: And not something we very much like the color way.
Brad: On it is called clay and sunshine yellow clay exterior sunshine yellow interior.
Brad: That's not something I necessarily what F. picked just like let me think about what colors I want but when we got out the.
Brad: Fabric swatches to pick out the color for this it was like yeah this really really works well in the feedback on the color has been exceptional so I'm I'm glad for that it looks really nice six very different him out very well yeah it's different it's in a kind of works perfectly I love it I think this is gonna be a really really good color and the pictures of the sample I had have ara a standard black tag but I put on Instagram.
Brad: What the actual tag for this Kickstarter project will be we were at our factory on Monday and I got pictures of the real tag because we've already shipped them to them had those made and now it's like a white tag with yellow Dagnall pinstripes in a P. eighteen on the back I'm gonna add these to the project page later but they're on the not co Kickstarter I mean not co Instagram page right now so I thought it looked really cool head matches the colors kind of match the case so what do you think about the tag.
Myke: I think it's sweet I like I like the little back of it.
Brad: Right.
Myke: So it's got to it so people know they know what year than the words come from a red like that and the lines is very different very different to anything helpful lovely PA eighteen so you know it's good vintage.
Brad: Yes we weren't going to have this isn't a case to do like a big label and some intricate design but even just like little little tags I think are pretty cool I think like well like we did the union Jack tag god in our very first year arm that was also a yellow interior cases well so we like we like the yellow and then on top of the case we've been keeping this one top secret for a while I mean I think you all knew we were gonna do a case and we're gonna do videos.
Myke: But.
Brad: What else could we do that would be fine for us and fun for the show.
Myke: And something so cool that need a meal you could come up with the idea.
Brad: Yes so we needed the real star of the show Ana Reinert from The Well Appointed Desk the third house he Texas third hosts the official third host of the panic podcast sent me a text one day she is what we think about an animal pens.
Brad: For the Kickstarter aside yeah that would be awesome and she's like of your head I'm like wait what.
Brad: So she said over these little caricature drawings which I wanna like a black.
Myke: Light what's the.
Brad: Yeah.
Myke: I love them so much.
Brad: Yes as you sit me over just like the little black and white initial sketches and I'm like yes like instant instant yes it but she just didn't.
Brad: You and you and I.
Brad: And I said well where's your she's like she's like I'm not doing it I'm sake we're not doing it unless you're on it and yet.
Brad: Can you have to have pink hair and she's asset or we won't do it and so she was like of but then I think she she and up are she end up loving it and it came out fantastic you can see the picture of the pens on the Kickstarter page so yes yes someone.
Brad: In Kansas city that she's worked through before to get these made so there are - she's finishing up the design this is a mock up on the page but it looks pretty good.
Brad: So we don't know what the final version a look like yet but they'll be like a brass like one inch-ish size you know with like a pin post on the back right that type of that type of really nice metal pin.
Myke: I just want to clarify full of the non southern.
Myke: Speaking.
Myke: Individuals. Brad is saying pin.
Myke: I am.
Brad: In because.
Myke: It sounds incredibly like Hussein Penn.
Myke: Me anything I have I am quite a lot when I.
Brad: Say in.
Myke: That okay well.
Brad: Who gonna do this.
Myke: Civilian it isn't so at the end of this is a loss like pins pens and I make fun of her because with the way she says it with her love the remaining accent they always sound the same so we are talking about enamel pins I don't know what an enameled pen would be like I feel like it would be very heavy and.
Brad: Would be.
Myke: Kind of strange but we're not talking about an animal pens it is an animal pen and they are wonderful and I cannot wait and I want a lot of them.
Brad: To test.
Myke: Dawn will all my clothing with the.
Brad: Well thanks for that clarification on pins versus pens.
Myke: And and and people in the chat room again confused so I felt like it was necessary I love you I love the way you speak this is.
Myke: See you all the wonderful accent of which you you have.
Myke: A clarification.
Brad: Okay now we're gonna fight with Evelyn. It is definitely not a button.
Myke: Now I don't know buttons to me of the ones that have the the the little old safety pin type situation right well like you talk it in and tuck into the other side opinion is gracious like you just push it in it's like the one step that points out.
Brad: Yeah.
Myke: This is.
Brad: Where.
Myke: We get way off track now of the overall wards include videos so there will be an incredibly well produced video.
Myke: Made by the Hackett brothers, of the Atlanta show as always gets more more beautiful every single year.
Myke: And if we make it too Toronto we gonna be doing some special behind the scenes back of logs including a stop off on a trip to New York City when me and Brad gonna go to a couple of stationery stores including the new opened CW pencil still I'm gonna be doing some fun stuff with the folk over at CW pencils and all of that will only be available to to back because this is gonna be back or explosives.
Myke: And I've I'm also Brad I'm working on maybe getting some help with the video footage of.
Brad: New York are nice so.
Myke: So we're able to be in the video and have have some help that some looking forward to that so yet that's gonna be incredible going over to CW pencils and take a look at all everything that they've got going on over there is such a beautiful song to comment to see all of that including the annals of the behind the scenes of Toronto in America like it'd of Atlanta Lika a video showing you what the Toronto Pen Show looks like all of that is only possible if we meet our stretch goal of twenty thousand dollars and to do that we need your help as always we are trying to move you know we trying even harder to make it worth it for you Fred like we want to give you incredible stuff if you want so kind as to help us do this and we have a couple of different that pledge levels for the different stuff that we're offering.
Myke: A pen depends on my god the pins are only available at the fifty dollar level but that includes absolutely everything test when you want and it's the one that most people been gone for but yet so please please please help us out and we'll try not to talk about it this much in future but you know how we get this time of year was so excited because we haven't cried yet but I have felt very emotional I've had my mom texting me she finds these things.
Myke: I don't know how. She she I think she looks at my my to defeat every now and then and she always says to me and I find it so funny when she says that she calls me a clever boy and things like that happen very clever boy took it wasn't you know I I I don't think that necessarily anything to do with my intellect help this happen.
Myke: But yes my mom's been calling me a clever Bly said thank you all for helping that happen because - this is such a wonderful time every year.
Myke: And I'm so pleased that we offer really great rewards because I like that this is it like a like a two way situation when not just asking for your money to help us go on these trips like which we really for try very hard to make it worth it for you , like the listener and the backer, and I promise I'll do my best to make the videos that I make a good as I possibly can and we love you so much and thank you for a just helping every single year for us to to do the stuff it's it's wonderful and I promise I promise to you.
Brad: Old.
Myke: That Toronto is just the start of our international expansion like we want to go further with this and we want to do more but you have to do that we have to see that this continues to be a thing and and it looks like it is because I think we probably funded quicker than we ever have before we've I think a larger goal than we ever have before anyway.
Brad: The model is last single.
Myke: Lines always win.
Brad: For our goal we understood our budget just a little bit yeah we rises out because that's kind of how it works yet because you know it we.
Myke: Were happy to put a little bit money and if it didn't.
Brad: Yet right.
Myke: If we only got to that level but yes so you know the.
Myke: You continuing to support us and you know if if this year is anything like last year then we know we can continue to do more you know like so.
Myke: It basically if this is something you want to see continue.
Myke: Please back our Kickstarter.
Myke: There are links in the how notes.
Brad: Yes a couple things for me any amount of money to ask for is always like a big deal for us we take it very seriously and we appreciate you all support you know over the years and everything else do for us and you know we hope we're doing a good job giving you back yell all of that and more in we we really take it seriously try really hard to do cool stuff and have fun and you know that's what it's all about you know just the the way we've run things over the years I think it's pretty clear but there's always new listeners and.
Brad: New backers a new supporters coming in which we greatly greatly appreciate.
Myke: I was asked.
Brad: On Twitter if I was going to cry like with a B. tears and the thing I was like no I'm not going to cry like this is the like the fourth time we've done it now you know I'm feeling like super good about it and then bite within thirty minutes later someone said something else.
Brad: And.
Brad: Just something I read on Twitter and I'm like over there going.
Brad: Yeah expand.
Brad: That.
Myke: There is yeah.
Brad: Yes is like no I'm not going to cry but no it's you know.
Brad: Just the the support of the listeners and readers and fans of the show it it just never fails to amaze me up and I just want to know how much we care about all of our listeners and supporters say and thank you very much.
Brad: Couple quick things on the pledge levels it was hard to write them this year because of the length of time from the first of it to the last of it.
Myke: Yeah so.
Brad: I wanted to just make a couple of comments the video and log level it was hard to write that.
Brad: Saying you know if we hit this amount you get this we hit this amount will get you'll get this, so just know that you'll get - Toronto looks like it's going to happen I mean I'm pretty sure we're going to hit on all.
Myke: I'm very so within the via.
Brad: The video and vlog little level you get everything there's not no more money for all the things that were going to shoot videos and the other exclusive to you these are not public videos.
Myke: Never am.
Brad: And so so you're looking at at least three right now probably.
Brad: On that level.
Myke: Well made forty two but let one of them will be split of like so debate probably yeah two videos which will be the video of the show and Toronto and New York I'm thinking all party make those one video.
Brad: Gotcha that makes sense that makes sense.
Myke: Just because it is like because then I can show us traveling you know golf place to place get again on the line together that kind of stuff before but yes so that there will be but like what bash trying to say is we it says November for the delivery of those but that's when events like the Atlanta video ranked is usually done within two weeks I will be on your side it said in may yeah.
Brad: Yeah there's almost always sent out in may so that leads into the pen case only level if you're not getting any videos we're shooting for the pen cases to be done in August which is the same arm.
Brad: Date we had last year which means for the fifty dollar level that should be when you get your pen case but I had to write the estimated delivery for November because that's when the last videos that you're getting are for that so I hope that makes sense I'll add that into the FAQ on the Kickstarter just kind of the more you know proper ship dates for each individual thing and we should have the animal pens at the same time to ship the cases that's what we're shooting for so look for the cases in August time frame and then I had to put down November because you're not getting those last videos until November so I just wanna make sure that was clear no one's really had any questions on that but I just want to throw that out there case in case there were questions yeah so.
Brad: I expect your first video from Atlanta in may.
Myke: As we get more moving parts the delivery date citric yeah right because it's multiple events unlike we caught change the time lines of the events that they just happen when they happen.
Brad: Yeah.
Myke: Yes so you'll be.
Brad: You'll be getting delivery of your videos are cases throughout the year until we wrap it up at enough sets the Toronto shows like it weighty at the end of November October usually I don't think they've announced the date yet so it'll probably be November before we officially wrap this Kickstarter so that's why you see those dates on there.
Myke: Said last thing where fourteen thousand five hundred and ninety eight dollars as we're recording at my time three twenty five PM on the seventh of February.
Myke: I would too it would make me the happiest man on the planet if we get to twenty by next week like.
Brad: Well like I have I haven't even posted an article in the pen act yet I mean.
Myke: People to show hasn't even gone out right let in yeah they're only there's only a small amount of people to see it but you know that we.
Myke: It feels like it's possible but you never know and you know it all guy Brad I have to stop talking about this.
Myke: I'm get on the line is going to start crying wow okay that's inside out of no where some.
Myke: Yeah okay we need to move on thank you buddy.
Myke: Wait wait yet you the best.
Brad: Yeah because this next Alex not gonna make you cry right.
Myke: Though I mean I'm gonna cry reading the next I have a range to the document very poorly from the mental well being and.
Brad: Gosh.

Kaweco Apple Pencil Holder

Myke: Let's talk about something else can you talk about something else some and I'll move around pick something all my gosh yeah.
Brad: So let's talk about something that you dropped on me like added the blue I haven't seen this at all but apparently convey co is making an apple pencil holder like a holder for the actual.
Brad: Apple pencil like I was very confused when you put this in the notes I went and looked at the Lincoln I didn't picture.
Brad: Like when I was just reading the headlines of this in the show doc I could not even picture what we were talking about that I clicked over to link us like I know this is like our ready a real product is that correct is this a real life thing you think.
Myke: The amount of information that we have on this is slim so this was sent to both of us virus Instagram as Sitch from somebody name of Harry.
Myke: Harry saw this as a German trade show and he even he has no more details there will be a link in the shown us that Harry sent to me I'm clearly what this product.
Brad: Is.
Myke: Is a kind of sleeve all holder or something to go over the apple pencil to basically give it the body of a convey co pen so it's I seem pretty thin aluminium.
Myke: And and it slides over now the reasons is interesting to me is this gives me all of the features the I have been asking for from an apple pencil because.
Brad: It is.
Myke: Aluminium in colors.
Myke: The colors of the iPhone.
Brad: Because.
Myke: There's like a replica pinky one.
Brad: Yellow you know like rose petals.
Myke: And a call came flying one and a regular on many of these what we can see in this image.
Myke: It's got by it what looks like some kind of textured grip.
Myke: To it and it has a.
Myke: What is the name of that when you do the lines in the Bauer like what what is the fifth.
Brad: Actually calls to their stuff faceting in violation.
Myke: Yet done faceting as one looking for Scott faceting barrel so it won't roll away and it gives it some weight and heft now of course there's all this stuff about balance and who knows what it's actually gonna be like to hold but I am very intrigued about this product and I have no idea.
Brad: If.
Myke: They're gonna make it.
Myke: But I really really hope that they do because this yes like a very interesting product.
Brad: Sounds like a email to convey because in order to really write this looks like one of their display cases what I found intriguing which I didn't catch until the second time I looked at this and it makes complete sense that it's there is the back end of the sleeve is open right so you can get to the charter.
Myke: Yeah so it just slide and you just get out the cap off.
Brad: Yeah so I am intrigued it's like this is something I will probably buy it something I have a little bit.
Brad: I don't know not totally sketchy on using but it's like I set down my apple pencil on the screen a lot of times to spam you know by tapping it do I want that metal hitting the glass.
Myke: Yeah.
Brad: I'm sure it's fine that glass can withhold anything it's not gonna make a difference but that's like the mental block that I have right.
Brad: Yeah I mean it's from a feel on a slight told a perceptive.
Myke: Like from a white perspective just from a general feel like it could be not good like.
Myke: If I'm pressing hard will it move like how was actually attached.
Myke: To the apple pencil right like one of the tolerance is like you know I can write press ready hard will it fly out of the thing right like so there are a bunch of questions.
Myke: I am very interested to try this if it becomes a real product but they've obviously made it they have leased prototypes and the showing off at trade shows but that's literally all we know at this point.
Brad: Right I'm assuming the grip section has some type of twist lock mechanism Sir you're gonna lock you're gonna slide it in twisted open sided in and twist it tight to secure the interior pencil would be my guess.
Myke: Like my thought is that what are you securing it.
Brad: To.
Brad: The bear at the barrel of the apple pencil.
Myke: Right so you just think that it should but it would just be by friction though right.
Brad: Yeah.
Myke: Yeah.
Brad: Yeah kind there's a way to like just kinda tighten that up some.
Myke: We'll say I'm very very very intrigued about this.
Brad: Very intrigued myself because so you said we got this message via Instagram I almost never checked my Instagram messages so.
Myke: No I don't even know why I don't know what compound in this instance I was very glad that I did so thank you happy excited.
Brad: Yes thank you hurry because I didn't see this before you put in the show talk.
Myke: I think it was like I was awake one night sue polite and that's when I such and stuff like that and linked in like if I can't sleep I just like stop looking like the corners of social networking just to try and find something to occupy me yes I get sleepy.

Harry's ad read

Brad: Yeah well speaking of hairy he is also sponsor this week did you know that.
Myke: I did.
Brad: Get around.
Myke: He's very busy but we all know that Harry's loves aluminium so it makes perfect sense.
Myke: We still you know.
Brad: It.
Myke: I think it's time even now in early February to think about the year ahead.
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Brad: It helps me look so awesome Mike and it helps me smiles at the challenge sometimes when I go to Penn says but now I.
Brad: I love Harry's because I have it set up for my home shaving needs with like the big the big bottle products and then I just got in a bunch of my travel sized of Harry's shave gels and foams and things like that so I can take with me on the upcoming trips I have some going to.
Myke: LA.
Brad: Baltimore around in little rock in the span of like the next month so I need to load up on all the Herries travel goods and extra blade so second look good and smell good at all these Pinschers.
Myke: I'm ready actually when you shaking hands and kissing babies right because that's right at your best right Harris is so confident that you're going to love that place they want to give you a free trial set you just need to cover shipping the set includes a weighted ergonomic raise a handle five precision engineered blades of a lubricating strip and term of late they have rich lathering shave gel and travel plate Kaba is set is worth thirteen dollars but it's free.
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Adina's Gift to Myke

Brad: Let's make might cry again you already.
Myke: Are not thinking good I think a good I think okay so is my thirtieth birthday last week.
Myke: Which is why we recorded the that want to dream pen episode far in advance to talk about funny the civil of that and a little bit.
Myke: And.
Myke: My wonderful fiance she has a problem in that the first year that we were together she got me.
Myke: Incredible birthday and Christmas gifts like really good like super full full gifts.
Myke: So she set the bar incredibly high for herself.
Myke: So like when my birthday comes around especially she gets just like so stressed out the kids she has to try and find an amazing gift right she wants to keep the chain going and I am the type of person where.
Myke: I am I have the issue in the eye by the stuff that I want so there aren't many gifts left available to me the on full full ones.
Myke: And that's the kind of gift I like anyway so that's kind of the situation and she finds itself and she's very good at buying gifts but they always have to be thoughtful so she presented me on my birthday with cufflinks made.
Myke: A vintage Estabrook nips.
Myke: Incredible gift selling yet she nailed it she just absolutely nailed it their incredible I love them.
Myke: And they will be not one into my wedding day and I will wear these on my wedding day because it's perfect.
Brad: It's so perfect these are amazing I know Iran love with these this company so it.
Myke: Is very interesting school tokens and icons and they.
Myke: Take weird stuff and make.
Myke: Gifts out of it so like.
Myke: You can get coins that turned into conflicts and they have all these like really interesting I said loads of those little interesting things.
Myke: So yeah that was looking at like close to different clans and was different tokens and like they have.
Myke: Wow look at this I've just found wow they have I didn't see this until now cufflinks made out of.
Brad: The barrels.
Myke: Of park of I commend six.
Brad: Cool.
Brad: So now I see him now said.
Brad: Cufflinks yep.
Myke: They're very very very cool company who do some some kind of awesome stuff so they're really good gift idea for people in your life now sponsoring this episode of course that I do you know yet to that sounded like I was going into my sponsor read but no I was blown away by by that gift is wonderful wonderful gift and.
Myke: At a time when I was thinking about conflicts right because you know was done to put together the the incredible suit I'll be wearing on our wedding day and I was looking at cuff links just a couple weeks ago so then she just went ahead and just.
Myke: And everything but my main amazing gift to.
Brad: They got that also is well.
Myke: Worth talking about the show because they made of fountain pens.
Brad: Yeah that's very cool level.
Brad: Alright so this a very Kickstarter E..
Myke: Moon.

Pay-It-Forward Project Kickstarter

Brad: Episode Mike and I have several more items I want to talk about that were current or recent Kickstarter projects number one.
Brad: Is the launch of the pay it forward project which are good friend Oscar Oscars in the chat room today.
Brad: That we met in DC last year when he set up the original pay it forward table where.
Brad: He was his idea was to go to Penn shows and give.
Brad: Well who are kind of the tag alongs with the real pain addicts you know the the family members the wife the husband the child that was just kind of tag along with their partner or parents or friend who was into the thing and they weren't necessarily into it to give them kind of a starter kit of fountain pens and kind of you know get a Marston to the hobby with a neat little kid you know pen ink paper.
Brad: To kind of get them started and had make them have like a super positive experience at their first Pinchot you know even though you know it may not been something they wanted to come to that day so it went so well Oscars trying to take this show on the road if you will and he has a really cool project on Kickstarter right now.
Brad: For a project like I said we'll have it linked in the show notes and he's got some really cool backer levels that you can get you can just stop you know can sport support him with dollars or you can support him and get ink from poppy a plan the heart of gold fountain pen ink which I just received from him.
Brad: You know to try a sample of you can get heart of gold notebooks from our good friend Vito had story supply company.
Brad: And you can get combination packs and then the big the big package which I guess is all gone now the pen that frankly Kristofferson aching for this project with a Jonathon Brooks material arm I guess are we calling this the heart of gold tend yeah heart of gold fountain pen.
Brad: So Oscar I was a backer of this the first day back the pen level.
Brad: And.
Brad: The you know the kind of all the things level the pen the notebook and eight that was the the level that I backed out so I got all the things an announcer said Haiti will miss Angie about all the ink to tryout house like that be cool I'd like to try out looks like a nice bright red ink with kind of some gold in there it looks really really pretty and then I open the box just this morning.
Brad: Because I've been traveling and open it up and.
Myke: Out pops.
Brad: A rod of the heart of gold.
Brad: Jonathon Brooks material this looks amazing Mike this look right up your alley style why size wise Franklin Crips Cristofori as Jonathon Brooks why would he think about thought has.
Myke: It's wonderful isn't it.
Brad: It yeah.
Myke: Very very very nice out I missed the pen.
Myke: I think yeah I think the Pam was just like snapped up.
Myke: So I get might.
Brad: Work out something for you but this blank that I have so this is like a.
Myke: Home.
Brad: Or we gonna say ten inch blank that Oscar sit me of this so maybe I could leave it with our good friend Jonathon Brooks in Atlanta and maybe he can make some magic happen for you mine.
Myke: Not mine.
Brad: I don't know what I don't know if I'm supposed to say I have this or not but Oscar said it to me so thank you Oscar I was very surprised I haven't put this thing down since I open the package is more in the entire pen show up and twirling this this in my hands like the heart of gold material just see this is this is it.
Brad: You hear that that was banging on my cancer.
Myke: Heart sounds very nice.
Brad: Ouch those little painful.
Myke: Let her do that I anticipated yet distance of solid material right that serious stuff yet.
Brad: But it's got it when this gets up when this gets made I mean they as a sample of the final version in there it looks looks awesome so I'm excited for this you all should really consider backing this project for all the good that it does young and.
Myke: Even if you just go and give him five Bucks.
Myke: Right you know just just to help out once because China do you know he's he's take this isn't money guys going in his pocket you know this is it this is like a fund raising experiment to to help.
Myke: The pay for project continued to drive and it was wonderful wonderful to see what was happening at DC it was really really nice to see the buzz around the table Oscar had so you know anything that that him and and Alex are able to do to help push this thing out wider is excellent.
Brad: Yeah N. he worked his tail off in DC I've actually never seen anyone at a pen show closer to death then Oskar.
Myke: Yeah.
Brad: He look like he was gonna keel at any time Oscar you know I love you but you're a walking zombie at DC because he works so hard and this to make sure it went off without a hitch in the problem was we had other things you know going into you know set up in and all that stuff so.
Brad: But it turned out wonderfully who was a massive hit so definitely take a look at this on Kickstarter and if nothing else yes dome a few Bucks get some sweet notebooks that includes great so I will be checking all this out again like I said I'm already a backer of this project into it looks awesome so congratulations Oscar it's already funded so I look forward to see what you are going to do the rest of the year with this project.

Wancher Dream Pen Kickstarter

Brad: Next one Mike I am also a backer.
Brad: We talked about it last week in a in a weird time warp kinda way the watcher dream penned Kickstarter I have to say going back and listening to it our predictions were pretty accurate.
Brad: I at first I said this should find in about thirty minutes and then we did the math on X. actually how many pens the it needed to find a set of the so fun in like ten minutes and I think it funded in about ten or twelve minutes yeah so what have your thoughts been since we recorded two weeks ago on this.
Myke: I feel basically the same.
Myke: I feel fine about it in the sense that you know.
Myke: I don't believe the anyone's getting scammed here right leg shirt yeah right I think this is like a legit saying.
Myke: I remain concerned about time lines that they giving I think April for some of these pens still seems incredibly aggressive but as you said they may have already had the made up but six is go six hundred twenty six back because right now with twenty one days ago I mean this is probably going to be like a thousand you know there is still being a cause you get like that kick up at the end and as more people talk about it with talking about it again now right like I think they're gonna get close to that if not that and that's a lot pens and these pens apparently take a long time to make so I'm I'm very keen to see what happens at this project post post funding.
Myke: But I mean I believe everyone's gonna get that stuff I have no reason to believe that will be the case but I am very keen to see if they're able to meet the.
Myke: Very aggressive timelines that they've set themselves I mean like some of these pens like somebody ebonite pens and stuff the St April I mean and this project ends at the end of February.
Brad: Right yeah that's it's it's still yeah it's very aggressive there there's no doubt.
Myke: So we'll say I mean that they're obviously a big.
Myke: Bernie right you know I could be getting a big enough fight if they have a history that not like.
Myke: Brian you and is used is you said he is he gassed and I reckon that you're right that they already had a bunch of these made they were just you know the part we have five hundred them to sit sit now ready before they launched a project right so they could.
Brad: And probably not that many.
Myke: But you know what I mean that they had in the mail they probably had a significant amount more than any company with typically do and going into a project like this correct as we expect to and believe they probably have the resources us so yeah I'm very very interested you know that that was a close in on all past two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Brad: Yeah almost there and they've hit two.
Brad: Stretch goals to where they're adding two new colors of a re she finish so the first one they did a voting competition it was yellow verses green.
Brad: And one out on that one so that one's done now they have the new one I think they just sent out the the vote this morning it's yellow versus purpose.
Brad: So out of those three colors what are so yellow verses green what do you pick.
Myke: Hi the green one more.
Brad: Yeah yellow versus purpose.
Myke: Purple.
Brad: Yeah yeah I was just not gonna win any vote now it's not it looks at it looks cool it's always going to come in second to green and purple I was hoping for an orange an orange red would top yellow to.
Myke: Yeah.
Brad: But yeah green and purple are certainly going to be the ones and I think that's the last of the new colors I don't think they're introducing anymore new colors after that so those were the two stretch goal vote so the parable verses yellow still active but I'm pretty sure purpose going to run away with that.
Myke: So I have a bike this project yet but I plan to like it but I think that I will my main problem is I am so overwhelmed.
Myke: I don't know how to back this project.
Brad: Yeah.
Myke: It's it's so confusing like because I large project think you know like I'm looking at all of the options like one I'm not even a hundred percent sure what I guess I'll go for the Arusha right like I mean that's probably wanted to do anything but I'm like well I think I might want to different and have been I think I might wanna roll stop and it's like all proximate Lee twenty dollars to it's it's all very confusing.
Myke: But I I think I am going to go for it but yeah I'm just a bit yeah just a bit confused about it.
Brad: Yes so the other other comment I wanted to make is they now have a banner on their top image says most funded fountain pen I don't know if they mean the most funded want your dream pen because it's definitely not the most funded fountain pen on Kickstarter I know the vision air did three something.
Brad: So you know take that for what you will but this is not the most funded anything unless it's the most funded of their own projects so.
Myke: Yeah.
Brad: One of those very vague comments to make.
Myke: Like you get a lost two days like what are you saying.
Brad: That I'm right because one of the comments made to be like make you feel super important except it not me hot text it means literally nothing.
Myke: They may be a lousy founded by back count I mean it's one of the six hundred twenty six people into on that house and dollars it at me like you.
Brad: Vision there was a thirty dollar pen.
Myke: And.
Brad: Then a hundred something they had probably four thousand backer Sentinel I mean.
Myke: Amount of bankers to value right like hello.
Brad: Share.
Myke: With a lot of money right I mean that's one of the really wild things about this pen is like there at like a quarter of a million dollars with six hundred people hope you know.
Myke: Really strange is like.
Brad: That that's.
Myke: Probably the amount of people will have on our project.
Myke: Right right six hundred.
Brad: Yeah.
Myke: But.
Brad: If it.
Myke: Follows previous years but like rats that's one of the things that makes this project so wild.
Brad: Yep.
Brad: Yep so it's gonna be fun to watch will be talking about this a lot.

Namisu Ixion Kickstarter

Brad: When we talked about at launch and then didn't follow up despite several calls to me to follow up on this project.
Brad: Was the Namisu Ixion.
Brad: So this was a very late project so they were late last year when was the original due date.
Myke: October.
Brad: Was October November late November they said they can't get nips.
Brad: Like they can't that Bach is way behind it's gonna be like two months until they get nibs the pens were done we have no Debs were waiting on Bach.
Brad: And then that time pass the the nip showed up and then then they have this whole processing they know they have to go through all the.
Brad: Crazy crazy kind of fulfillment processing so they've just started to ship in a week or so ago and I've got mine you've got yours but this project left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouth just from a communication perspective.
Brad:
Brad: This is one of those things that doesn't have to be this way.
Myke: That.
Brad: Ends up going into the ditch like really.
Brad: Quickly when.
Brad: The.
Brad: The creators of the project don't really keep up with things in art.
Brad: As up front with things.
Brad: You know everything in this project about being late.
Brad: Could have been avoided you know you're so we're still gonna be unhappy that it's late but you really talk about you know the nuts and bolts and you communicate in a more.
Brad: Timely manner than they did they seem to be behind.
Brad: On all their communication when it'd have to be that way and this is like their third project.
Myke: I'm ready I'm really surprised about this honestly like.
Myke: I wasn't aware of it because I haven't been paying attention and my pen showed up like two days ago but like with most okay so like.
Myke: I don't know how people tend to approach kickstart campaigns and unlike in is no judgment and what I'm going to say here like I'm not judging you anybody.
Myke: When I back a Kickstarter I forget about it purposely write like I don't pay attention to the date that is gonna be shipped on because no project at the meets.
Brad: Right.
Myke: Like.
Myke: That the amount of projects I have backed staff been late.
Myke: It is like it is an astronomical percentage because stuff happens.
Brad: Right.
Myke: Lake I am in the business of launching products at times and I know how things get pushed back right so like I tend not to pay any attention to it the problem with this one is is not that they will light.
Myke: As you said they seem to just communicate things pretty badly and they've allowed the worst possible thing to happen which is to let that comment section turn into a feeding frenzy.
Myke: Like the comment section is out of control right now.
Myke: And it's because they're not in the.
Brad: Yeah so unlike you I am going to judge them I does.
Myke: Not mean you can for that and I know I'm not on my judgment was not of them my judgment is that people backing the projects right like well I'm saying it's like I don't you know I I don't expect projects ever arrive on time right that that's kind of what you're saying.
Brad: Yeah I mean and that's almost unfair but it is kind of fair these days with Kickstarter but how you handle the problems is what I'm judging you on yeah that's.
Myke: I mean that's what judgment right my mind I'm saying I'm not passing judgment on back because the like what they believe should occur but I believe he's felt yes can be pasta pong create as who are not doing it like updates of fine right and like whatever you've got to be in the comments of people are asking you questions like it's.
Myke: All of the deal.
Brad: Yeah so this act this hurts them in the long run when they had a very positive standing leading into this project right they've done some good work.
Myke: Well I mean my third Penn says this is why backlights pen science.
Brad: Yeah this was an instance the back at me.
Brad: And.
Brad: Now I don't know what I'm gonna do next time because even though a lot of this they'll say it was out of their hands it's still a management issue Mike and I'm trusting you to manage these things better so it doesn't turn into the storm that it kind of turned into because they didn't need to be right just like you know I I I am you know.
Brad: Equal opportunity are.
Brad: Roger he.
Brad: Out I call them as I see.

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#AskTPA Questions

Brad: We have some good questions this week from AskTPA if you want to get in on the AskTPA action the best way is on Twitter just use the hashtag AskTPA into Mike's magic robots will catch that put him in the document for us right.
Myke: They always do.
Myke: The.

What's With Retro 51?

Brad: All right so Tim the Valar wants to know.
Brad: Says I'm a long time found pen addict but I'm relatively new to the blog podcast an online community it's embarrassing question time Mike.
Brad: What's the deal with Retro 51.
Brad: What do I need to know where to why start.
Myke: Tim did deal.
Myke: Is that the Retro 51 is straight up the best role on the planet there's no better they are the best it is.
Myke: Wonderful from the refill perspectives of the refill that they use the Schmidt refill is excellent many pens use it I think night many more pens use it now because Retro 51 kind of popularized it as a as a refill and is is made it kind of it just something that many pens get bill around now because it is a wonderful smooth refill that that really puts a great line down the page love the refill so much it's it's.
Brad: It is.
Myke: A pan in which I have always been surprised at the amount of time so I can hand it to somebody and they use it and basically every person goes.
Brad: Whoa.
Myke: No matter how much of a panic that they are on the like typically at some I give this to people who are friends or family members all of people I meet at pen shows and now I can't really get this like comment what do I even need a good pen like like try this because the writer fifty one is close enough in style and you know mostly to it and shape and size depends that people have seen and used before.
Myke: But it feels incredible to use and it's like stars like twenty five dollars so what you need to know Tim is there are tons of Retro 51 designs said it might be something in there that you like but if I was gonna tell you what to stop get one of them breaks a fifty one lacquer addition just plain call a lack of pens that they make.
Myke: And just just drop like the twenty twenty five dollars it costs to get yourself one and trust me you're going to love it they're fantastic absolutely fantastic I am such a fan of their products because they always incredible quality and that just won the forty years time that's my S. that's that's the deal.
Brad: So I agree with that across the board especially on the recommendation just get the [[Tornado Lacquer Series] pick a color you want and and go with that the reason.
Brad: It's such a popular thing for us to discuss aside from all those things that Mike laid out what you're exactly right is based solved a problem in a no man's land price point.
Brad: So there's no competition in that area for someone who wants to buy a air quote good pen right not something not like the Pilot G. to off the shelf for the unique box signal off the shelf at the office supply store they want something a little bit nicer.
Brad: And it's gonna write awesome in that category of pen.
Brad: Doesn't really exist.
Brad: Except for richer fifty one you know from anywhere from twenty to forty dollars you can get something that's really interesting.
Brad: And when you pick it up to write with it.
Brad: It's really different from any other pen you've used.
Myke: In in.
Brad: Day kind of solved.
Brad: The re fell question you know like they picked the perfect refill and.
Myke: That.
Brad: Made the things that they wrap around those refills shine.
Brad: And allow them to do like very normal stuff like lacquers addition or very custom stuff like some of the mission to Mars stuff yet very custom additions that they do is.
Myke: They could easily charge fifty percent more than they do and get away with it.
Myke: You know.
Brad: You're there.
Myke: Yeah.
Brad: So you know out in its not for everyone it's a liquid ink refill it's a little bit wider if you're used to using a very fine refill but the problems it solves in the greater pen landscape no one else can.
Myke: Know most models close with yet nobody's close no one's close.
Brad: So that's why they're so.
Brad: That's what we talk about them so much up and they're really high quality and do good job.
Myke: And the great people to.
Myke: And every last one.
Brad: Of.
Myke: Them.
Brad: Never yep yep.

Full Inventory Count

Brad: So Jenny from all haven wonderful blogger one of my favorites she messaged this AskTPA from it's a it's it's a dated one because we haven't talked about these for a couple weeks but this was an issue of refill I did a few weeks ago she says. Wow all.
Brad: You do have a lot of Edison and frankly Kristoff pens have you done a full count of the number of inks pens and notebooks you half.
Brad: Hell no.
Brad: So Jeannie Judy every year Juni does here's what I spent on pen she does this budget they get the end of every year and I always say the US will ask you know am I going to do that I want to see yours and my answer is always held now not just no I don't wanna know there's no way I want to know the answer to these questions but even I Juni when I was pulling all these pens do the photos for that issue because like a lot of bands that are not one of them was currently in use on cycle that's bad yeah that was a lot that was a lot of pens so yeah what we'll see.
Brad: But there will never be and number count and certainly never a dollar count on any of this stuff no way no way no way.
Brad: All right.

Steel vs. Gold Nibs

Brad: I don't know if this one's Chalte nursing home I talked him all the time I said I I should ask you know what's your Twitter handle pronunciation says I've made peace with the fact that given my heavy hand up better off using a sturdy steel now but I still like a smooth running experience in your opinion who makes this movie the steel nabs alternatively who makes the most steel like gold names so it's kind of a hard question to ask because there's a lot of variance.
Brad: And I'm gonna give like a very specific answer.
Brad: That I don't even know if you can act on this answer but the best.
Brad: Smear the steel nibs.
Brad: Are the ones you get from Franklin Kristoff in my opinion because they work on all of them before they leave the shop in those are made by JoWo so Edison does the same I find anything that uses any company that uses Yoko.
Brad: Steel nibs are.
Brad: The best smoothest.
Brad: Steel nibs for my everyday writing use their my favorite I use them constantly.
Brad: They're always smooth.
Brad: Right out the box when your arm from someone maker like you know are you over for our Franklin Kristoff I have great luck with his business I think your what makes them.
Myke: I'm not sure.
Brad: I can remember yellow box makes them I believe.
Brad: Those are really excellent right out the gate I never have problem with was being ABS so those are kind of my favorite stealing of the ones I don't like I don't like lobby still needs that much they're not my favorite Pelikan does a great steel extra fine nib but it's a little bit wider.
Brad: It's not as stiff as the JoWo and Bock nibs so you might want to stick with those but I really really enjoy.
Brad: On them.
Brad: Who makes the most steel like gold nips actually box golden observed recently really stiff arm as far as the other manufacturer goes probably sailor.
Brad: Makes a very firm.
Brad: Gold nip in my book arm.
Brad: That's probably kind of the best in that category you have anything to add to any of this.
Myke: No but I think this is a weird question.
Brad: It's all it's a it's a very I I don't think it's a weird question because this is like the category of near that I'd like to write with myself so I think it's a good question but it's a super particular question what I have to go a million different directions.
Myke: The reason I find it weird some wives if you're looking for the qualities of of steel why would you want gold maybe I don't understand.
Brad: Well because I'd like a farm near of I have a heavy hand I wanna firm did give me a sailor hard find it would be my choice right.
Brad: So that's a gold nearby get the smoothness of that gold in the kind of the feel it's a different feel than steel yet I get a farm nearby on top of that to FSU my writing style.
Myke: Okay.
Brad: As I feel it's very eyes on the specific specific.
Myke: I don't I haven't internalized I think a lot of the differences between Golden steel like.
Myke: Honestly I just go with what one feels nice and and that differs from pen dependent dipped in it for me adults were to get a like I have internalized the differences between the two of them to the point that I would you know what I was getting if I was choosing a lot of the time I go for gold because I think it might be fancier.
Brad: And you are facing.
Myke: And fancy pants so.

D-1 Refill Recommendation

Brad: All right so Laurie from the desk a lorry just picked up a show designed pen and though I tried to love it I just don't like the Fisher space refill just can't do the ball point she says and that's total about so she picked up the D. one adapter what's your recommendation for a great preferably gel or roller ball D. one refill.
Myke: The best.
Brad: D. one.
Brad: Gel refill is the zebra I wanna say it's this it's not called this arrest a but it's like the.
Brad: SR one I'll get the exact link for the show notes but the only gel D. one refill that's any good.
Brad: The problem with it is it's very expensive and it does not last a long time.
Brad: So that's the properties of gel when you put jelly get miss such a tiny tiny refill you're gonna blow through it and.
Myke: That a chance to be jail refill.
Myke: Sam rights point.
Brad: Point five millimeter point four millimetre even that they come in and they come in several colors like eight different colors it's kind of your only option it's very very good it's very expensive and you probably want at least two of them because you're gonna run one out at an untimely in an untimely fashion and you're you're gonna be caught without a refill so that's the only drawback to that refill but no one's made one better yet.
Brad: If you want to try I know you said no ball point.
Brad: The unibomber jet stream.
Brad: It's a ball point but it's better than any Fisher space pen refill will ever be you can maybe try that it's a little bit more consistent smoother.
Brad: Nicer line so there's my two D. one refill choices are the super jail in the jet stream that's that's what I always use.

Cartridge vs. Converter

Brad: All right last one from outer nerd.
Brad: Just started using a converter with my lami studio it seems to write wetter than when I use a pre filled cartridge is my imagination playing tricks on me.
Brad: So the answer is we don't have enough information.
Brad: We don't you didn't say whether you use in the same in Coronado.
Brad: It's probably the ink.
Brad: I don't really see much flow difference from a cartridge versus a converter I guess theoretically you could see that.
Brad:
Brad: You know it's wetter with a converter cartridge someone else might have the opposite experience I think it's more probably the ink.
Brad: You know maybe has a little bit different formulation different consistency.
Brad: To where you thinking it's writing wetter so it's probably a mind trick it's probably even more likely the ink.
Brad: I don't know that there's any real fakes or anything you can do to.
Brad: Change this.
Brad: If you think that you're using the same ink and you prefer one over the other you can.
Brad: Surrendering Philip cartridge if you want to be sure to get that same consistency but eventually that'll wear out so.
Brad: I look at the ink first and then the Carter dresses converse second would be.
Brad: My thoughts on that so.
Brad: We made it Mike this is a good episode we had lots of stuff to talk about it was it was a busy.
Myke: To write off.
Brad: Everyone cried all the news broke I don't know what we're going to talk about next week you know we said that for what two hundred ninety four at this all.
Myke: I would hiring about pen I have new products on the way to me don't worry about that.
Brad: Yeah we never have to worry.
Myke: Content in the nineteen eleven tangerine should be hit by next week are you or how the trial order that I did I tell you I was going to do it no one checked in with me but I went and went ahead and I don did it so it's on the way and I'm very excited about that pen I'll circle one of those spoke pencils that we were talking about a couple of weeks ago.
Brad: Nice.
Myke: But that have been bouncing around between me and the post office for like two weeks at this point that telling me that I'm not and when news flash I never leave my house of course I'm in yeah by the exactly problems of that Monday trend sold out by next week too so there's there's always stuff of mine I have a little document where I keep little idea.
Brad: That.
Myke: Way things because it is a while he's on wonderful of world we live in including what a trilogy neighbors we didn't get to that this week we can say that we didn't we didn't.
Brad: We will at we will so yeah to intern ninety four episodes and no end in sight there's always pen stuff to talk about who knew Mike.
Myke: In there as of right now.
Myke: We are at fourteen thousand eight hundred eighty three dollars kicks on the campaign go to kick started a concert for the pen addict or just go to our show notes which were related FM slash pen addicts slash two nine four and you'll be able to sit back all campaign get some amazing rewards and also help us to contribute a lifetime to Atlanta and Toronto.
Myke: And I'll say if we go to Toronto analysts say too much.
Myke: If we go to Toronto.
Myke: The some of the stuff that that will work in a real life and.
Brad: Nice.
Myke: Swung gonna say for now.
Brad: We always even if I don't know what they are there's always something working in the background we always try to do more.
Myke: Yeah.
Brad: If we can make me say.
Myke: If we can make Toronto happen.
Myke: Does some of the stuff that might happen beforehand.
Myke: Before we go to Toronto swung gonna say for now but I should probably should have been set that Stephen is listed out so I think I might get what.
Brad: I.

Ending

Myke: Do you know did of just saying there's there's a benefit big benefit to this aren't as willow Satan now thanks so much for sponsors this week's quest base away and Harry's and seriously seriously seriously thank you for listening and if you help us make this happen thank you thank you thank you so much we love you the best you can find Brad he's not dowdy ism on Twitter pen addict on Instagram panic dot com not dot co I am and I'm like I am like a this shows a pot related family can find more shows that relate on offense I shows we have so many you'll find something that you like until next time say goodbye Brett.
Brad: Good bye Brad.