The Pen Addict 324/transcript
| The Pen Addict Podcast Transcript | |
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| Episode: | 324 |
| Title: | The Enthusiasts |
| Release Date: | September 5th, 2018 |
| Hosts: | Brad Dowdy |
| Guests: | No guests this episode |
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| Official page: | Episode 324 |
| Audio File: | Audio Episode 324 |
| Podcast page: | The Pen Addict 324 |
| Length: | 6262 min <br />1.033 h <br /> minutes |
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Myke Hurley: From RelayFM, this is The Pen Addict, episode 324. Today's show is brought to you by Harry's, Casper, and Eero. My name is Myke Hurley. I am joined by Brad Dowdy. Hi, Brad Dowdy. Hey, Myke Hurley. How are you today? I am fine and dandy, my friend. Fine and dandy, indeed.
Brad Dowdy: Like a hard candy Christmas? I don't know what that means. What does that mean? Sorry, it's just an old, old, terrible Christmas song by Dolly Parton. We have not gone through what we're using. We don't do that every show. Nope. Sometimes it gets a little repetitive on what we use. But this time we were asked and I was like, oh yeah, we should probably do that, huh? Yeah. So I have been very non-fountain penny lately. I don't know why. You know, it's just, you know, ebbs and flows of all the things, right? You know. I've gone through a bunch of fountain pen shows. All the fountain pens are in use, inked up, all the fun stuff. I'm in a bit of a fountain pen show lull, so I've been using non-fountain pen things. What I took, I went on vacation this weekend. I had like a long weekend at the beach with Labor Day holiday, kids out of school. So I wanted to take a few things to write with. The notebook I took, Michael, was the Pano book. And I find it interesting what you are also using today as well. I don't know if we should talk about this in conjunction, but when I saw what you put in here, I laughed when I giggled. I had to put in the same thing. So what do you like about the Pano book? And then I'll continue on my...
Myke Hurley: Well, I use it every day, right? Like it's my... Yeah. It is my desk notebook and that serves two purposes. It's where I write my show notes down, but it's also where I write down quick ideas or if I need to like write something down to calculate something or whatever. If I'm sitting at my Mac, the notebook that I'm using is my Pano book because of its aspect ratio. Like I put it in landscape and it means it can sit very comfortably under my keyboard about me needing to push my keyboard further away from me. Like I've always put notebooks below my keyboard, but typically it means I then have to push my keyboard further towards my Mac, right? Because there aren't notebooks really that are formatted in this way. Because I like to use something bigger on my desk. You know, I've used various larger field notes in the past. I've used like different A5 books and stuff in the past. But what I like about the Pano book is its size and shape, which makes it very versatile for me.
Brad Dowdy: Yep. So that's exactly why I took it with me knowing that I was going to have some time to do some writing, had some time to do a little bit of work. And number one, it's a, like you said, it's a great desk book, right? So when I'm sitting, like I knew I was going to be sitting at probably like a dinner table, I could spread out all my stuff. That would be a good format to go there. And it packs well on a backpack. Like if I'm taking one backpack with my laptop and a single notebook, it fits really well in there. Obviously a lot of things will fit well in there, but it's just kind of this really good, like travel with it, knowing that I'm going to be able to set it down somewhere to work on. Like if I knew I was going to be running around and, and being in all kinds of different places, you know, it wouldn't be good for that. But if I knew I was going to be sitting down like I was this weekend a lot, I thought it would be perfect. And it was. So what I used it with was the Midori MD pencil, which was given to me by Gabe Staccoli at the DC Pen Show. You know, my good friend, my good friend, Gabe, he knows who he is. And we had talked about it on a recent podcast when you were gone with Les from Comfortable Shoes Studios about how much she enjoyed this pencil. So he gave me one because I didn't have one. I really like it. It's a very minimal. It's, this is the same people who make the Travelers notebook, right? Yeah. But Travelers is their own kind of offshoot brand. Now I have to look at the, how they, they totally redid like their company structure. Okay. But it's the same
Myke Hurley: company though, right? Yeah. It's the one Midori, you know, that's kind of who they are.
Brad Dowdy: Yeah. All right. Cool, cool. Travelers, Travelers is their own brand now. Right. But this, the Midori MD is kind of the upper tier Midori products. They make really great notebooks. And they just added this pencil to the lineup. It's really good. It's not going to be like my favorite pencil, but I like, it's kind of got a satiny finish on the barrel. It's kind of a light ivory, almost looking green if you look at it in the, in the right light, but the tip holds up well, you know, the darkness of the graphite core is very nice. It's just an enjoyable pencil to use. So I wanted to do a review on that. So I've been carrying it around a bunch. And then I also took with me my retro 51 prototype, which I'll be dropping the public knowledge on here in the next few weeks. I dropped the private knowledge for the pen addict members this past weekend, but it'll release probably end of September ish, beginning of October, somewhere around there. And that's, I love, one of my favorite things about the Pano book is they built it to use with their Mark one pen. This is our friends at Studio neat. So I love the retro 51 roller ball refill that Schmidt refill on this paper. I think it works really well. So I, I tend to use a retro 51 in this notebook a lot just because it works so well. So that's what I'm using. That's kind of all I've been using for like the past five days. I think I've, I've used this exact setup. Um, the Pano book, this Midori MD pencil and a retro 51.
Myke Hurley: So I'm using my Pano book, right? Use my Pano book every day. Something else I've been using every single day is my Toosby Go. Love that pen, man. Oh my God. Just so much. I love it so much.
Brad Dowdy: Um, and I finally have mine coming, coming by the way. Good. I'm really excited to hear what you
Myke Hurley: think about it. It's just such a fun, stupid little pen. I think it's brilliant. Um, and it's filled with Emerald Chivor because why not? Um, and I love that. I love that. It's a one, there's a wonderful, wonderful ink. Like just a really great color, let alone the sparkle. And it has great sheen on it, you know, using it with a, a broad nib, like the, like I have in my Toosby Go. It's a, it is a real joy. You know, I know why people like these inks. It's because they just have that something extra to them. Um, so yeah, you know, Emerald Chivor is great. I remember we freaked out the first time
Brad Dowdy: we ever saw that. We had Edge Eleon, right? They did a really good job. Yeah. To talk about that.
Myke Hurley: Such a good color. Yep. So it's, that's a, that is a great ink. It, it's one of my favorites of all of these types of inks because it's also just, it's not just a gimmick, you know, it's not just sparkly. The, the green blue with the red sheen is really, really good. It's a very,
Brad Dowdy: very good. I think it's, it's the, the pinnacle of that type of ink. Nothing's, nothing's knocked it off the, it's perch yet. I think that's, that's the peak, uh, peak fancy shimmer, sheeny, all the things ink, right? Yeah. Like episode 162 is when we had Edge Eleon. Photographer to the stars. That's why he was on. He, uh, he gets to photograph.
Myke Hurley: For, for, uh, Geroban in advance, right? I think. Right. But, um, we basically devoted the entire episode to the ink. It was so, it blew our mind at the time and it, and it
Brad Dowdy: doesn't, it, and it holds up, right? This is an ink that still holds up. And I'm pleased
Myke Hurley: now that I've kind of got something that I'm more comfortable to put it in, um, on, on, on a daily basis. Um, and I'm also using, cause I use two pens, right? The Sailor 1911 Tangerine with Robo Oster Orange Zest in it. That's great. I mean, this, this orange is that something special, right? So I wanted to get an ink that was a little bit more vibrant, um, than, than, uh, Fuyugaki and Orange Zest is totally that. Orange Zest has like a, it is a very deep, like blood orange color. Um, that's, that's how I'd describe it. Like that blood orange color. And so it's like, it's got a lot of red in it as well as orange. And, and that kind of fits the Tangerine for me because the Tangerine is super difficult to even work out what the color is. It's got, it's like a very strange orange that I love. And I think it's what captivates people about that pen is the vibrancy of the, uh, 1911. It really is something to see. And I think that's what, you know, endeared you to the pen. You know, you, the great review that you wrote where you're like, I don't want another sailor, but
Sailor Pen Discussion
Brad Dowdy: here we are. Yeah. Right. So I've bought the ocean since then. The Tangerine's better, right? Like if I'm doing a sailor pen ranking, the Tangerine's probably one of the best, I don't know if, I don't want to call it limited special editions that they've released.
Myke Hurley: It's the best 1911 that I've ever seen.
Brad Dowdy: Yeah. Like personally. It's so, it's a spectacular color. Um, that's really hard to describe. No, how matter, no matter what you think about it in the pictures, it's still different in person. Like it's, it's such a good pen. So, um, I love my ocean, but this is, this pen's special.
Myke Hurley: What I love about that review that you did that people can find in our show notes if they want to check it out was you photographed it next to the orange pro gear that we both own and love. Right. And that really shows the difference because even in the photos, you can see that like these aren't the same orange, right? That is a different,
Brad Dowdy: that is a very, very different orange. Right. Right. And still like the photos can hardly do it justice. One of the, one of my best purchases in a while was that, was that pen?
Myke Hurley: Great pen. Really great pen. All right, let's, let's take a break. Uh, and then I can talk some more about sailor pens. Uh, today's show is brought to you by Harry's, the company that was founded to get rid of having to pay high prices for raises that are full of unnecessary features. The Harry's founders knew that they wanted to make something that would give you a great shave every single day, because they also know that a great shave comes down to great blades and are made of sharp, durable steel that will last you. Harry's also wants to cut out the unnecessary costs and they deliver to you one perfect razor at an amazing price because they do that. They just strip it back to its bare essentials. Harry's sell directly to you over the internet as well. You can, they, this means that they can offer their blades at a price much lower than leading brands. You just pay $2 per blade of Harry's rather than $4 per blade. You may pay elsewhere. Harry's bought a factory. That's how they ensure this. They ensure the quality and the price by owning the whole process. So this, the factory that they bought in Germany, they make some of the highest quality blades and have done for hundreds, like nearly a hundred years now. Harry's also offer a 100% quality guarantee. If you don't love your shave for any reason, just let Harry's know within 30 days and they'll give you a full refund. Brad, did you need that full refund?
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Brad Dowdy: So what's the word on this big sailor purchase you made last week? You freaked everybody out.
Myke Hurley: Things are moving along, but like nothing's happened yet. So I have sent back to Bongbox my preferences for the orange jet.
Brad Dowdy: Okay. So like nib size, whatever.
Myke Hurley: The nib size and all that kind of stuff and all my info. So that's so that, but they said that the, they told me in the original email, these are going to start shipping until late September. So I expect that I'll just wait now and I'll get a PayPal invoice. Probably that's what I expect is going to happen. And I also got an email from Pensachi. They told me that they have had to slightly delay my order. That's all they said. Okay. But that's different to last time where they just straight up canceled it. Right. So I don't really know what's going to happen. All I know is that I still have an order.
Myke Hurley: And I guess I'm just waiting. They just said contacting you to update you about the status of your order due to a few complications. It will be delayed for a few days. That was last Monday. All right. So you're saying there's a chance. So as it stands right now, I still have potentially four new sailor pens on the way because nothing's changed. I've just, there's just delays. Right. So I'm waiting and I will, I will accept them.
Myke Hurley: The prices are so good though, especially on the Pensachi ones.
Brad Dowdy: Yeah. I mean, it's making me tempted for that purple when it's such a good pen.
Myke Hurley: Like I can't believe. So like, just to give you an idea. Yeah. So this, it was a lavender 14 carat gold nib pro gear for 145. Yeah. The 150th anniversary port of Kobe pro gear for 85. Wow. But then, then there was another pro gear that was a little bit more expensive.
Brad Dowdy: Yeah.
Myke Hurley: More in line with what you'd expect to pay, basically. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Brad Dowdy: Yeah. So good. Well, this will be, this will be our, our current thread between the podcasts. If we don't have one thread, we have another one, right?
Myke Hurley: It has to be a mystery. Yeah. We got a mystery. The mystery is, will I ever receive these pens? I have a piece of follow-up. So many people, a countless amount of people wrote to me to give us information about why Hobonichi can make those mother covers. Mm-hmm. Right. The, the Earthbound mother game. They make lots of covers. It turns out, Shigeseto Itoi, I'm going to go with, is the name. Mm-hmm. I apologize for my probable, terrible pronunciation.
Myke Hurley: It's the founder of Hobonichi. They were also the producer and writer of the Earthbound or mother games. So. That's crazy. They, that's why. And I have unfound, like, just completely mad respect now, like, even more than before for Hobonichi. Right. Right.
Brad Dowdy: It's blown my mind.
Myke Hurley: It was just this guy's thing that he liked, I assume. Right? Like me and you. You know, it's just like, oh, I do this thing. I also kind of like pens, so I'm going to start this pen company. And whilst also being responsible for one of, considered one of the greatest video game series of all time. Right. It's kind of incredible. So, that's why. It really is. You know, it turns out if you create a video game, you get, probably get preferable terms to license it for your paper products down the line. Yeah.
Brad Dowdy: Now, what if they added Pusheen into their lineup one day? Oh, don't even, Brad. That may not be their style.
Myke Hurley: Brad, just don't even. Like, I'll, I will kill me. Like, if they added, like, a Hobonichi Pusheen, oh my god. Oh my god. I'd buy all of them. Just all of them. I can't even explain my love for Pusheen, really. You know? Like, it doesn't, I don't really understand why I love that character so much. Like, I don't really consume anything other than, like, these days, Pusheen's Instagram feed. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not like, there are comics and stuff. Although, they're not really important anymore. It's now just, like, a merchandise machine, really. As opposed to focusing on the comics. Like, the comics that exist, like, you can go on. Like, there's that, the Pusheen.com is a Tumblr page. And there's new animations and stuff like that. But, really, it's, like, just cute merchandise. And I really love Pusheen.
Hobonichi Discussion
Brad Dowdy: Yeah. Well, to not spill the beans for a later episode, I was not going to buy a Hobonichi for next year. But just getting this story all tied up in a bow like this makes me want to buy a Hobonichi. Just because. I don't know why.
Myke Hurley: I will very, very, very likely be buying one. I mean, I love my journal. Yeah. I can't really see a specific reason, maybe. That I wouldn't get a Hobonichi again. I have a little thing that I'm thinking about. Yeah.
Brad Dowdy: And I have a game plan for next year. We're going to save all that for, as we get closer to the end of the year. Yep. Speaking of stuff you might buy, and I might buy, Myke. We got the info on the new Retro 51. Yep. Tornado designs that are launching the day of the release of this podcast. We got some insider info.
Myke Hurley: Like, yeah, we got the skinny on this one. So, like, as we're recording this today, the information is not public, but it will be by the time the episode comes out. So, we have a bunch of images and details about what appears to be, on the face of it, a very strong release from Retro 51 for, I guess, this season. And this is stuff that we've had an idea about. There are a few here that are taking advantage of their partnership with the Smithsonian. So, do you remember we spoke about this? This was a couple of months ago. Right. That Retro 51 struck a partnership with the Smithsonian, which meant that they were going to be able to make some special pens. And they started with the National Museum of African and American History and Culture, right? That they used the outside, the very unique outside look of that building.
Brad Dowdy: I got to get that pen. Like, I have not. It's nice. I've been sleeping on it. That's my favorite one that they've released already. I love how that one looks.
Myke Hurley: That will probably be one that I pick up at a pen show, right? Like, I'll see it and be like, yep, there you go. That's my one this time. So, they showed that off, what is codenamed, I think, with Retro 51, the NMAAHC Corona Pen is what they're calling it. They showed that one off at the time. But there's now two more editions that are brand new in the Smithsonian family. Do you want to share about these?
Brad Dowdy: Yeah. So, the first one is called the Dino Fossil. This one is going to sell like a billion. There's just a million of these will sell. If I was going to, if you're familiar with Retro 51, and I said Retro 51 made a Dino Fossil pen, you can imagine what it's going to look like. You know what it is. You don't even need to see it. But it's so good. The difference with this one is the whole base of the pen, like the background of the Dino bones is the stonewashed copper. So, it's like a dark, it's almost like their bones are rising out of the dirt.
Myke Hurley: It's a good material choice, I think.
Brad Dowdy: So, my thoughts were exactly like yours is they're going to sell a billion of these. Yeah. Like, it's going to be...
Myke Hurley: Because it looks so good. So, it's got a relief of dinosaur bones, like all different types of dinosaurs, like triceratops and T-Rex and stuff. But the bones are actually raised. Like, they are raised to detail.
Brad Dowdy: Yeah. So, they're like textured like a lot of their other pens that they've done in this type of series before. So, it's just fantastic looking. Very, very cool. Like I said, you can picture this in your head. If you know anything about Retro 51, you can kind of picture how this one's going to look. And it's going to exceed those expectations, I think. The next one... Yeah, the next one knocks it even further out of the park. So, this is called the Vega. And I didn't know this, but apparently Amelia Earhart's, one of her planes that she used to set some of her aviation records was a Lockheed 5B Vega. So, this pen is designed around that. And another thing that Retro 51 does very well are airplane-themed pens. I mean, it kind of lends itself to that design, right? Yep. Getting the paint jobs and textures of all these planes.
Myke Hurley: Because what they've got, and it's on this one, and it's on some of their kind of more like the war-themed planes, rivets and panels. They've really worked out this like texturing system, which makes it feel like the pen is made of panels. It's very, very clever.
Brad Dowdy: Right. And the rivets are the same color as the base paint. So, it's kind of subtle. What I thought this pen was, when I first opened the picture, Myke, I was like, whoa, they did a throwback Flash Gordon pen. Do you remember the original Flash Gordon series? Yep, yep, yep. I do. It's that red and gold. Yep. And it's got the airplane, I guess, do they call that the tag number? Sure. I don't know. You know those digits you see on the...
Myke Hurley: NR-7952 is what it's called. Yeah. But yeah. It's like the tail number or whatever. I don't know what it's called.
Brad Dowdy: This one actually speaks to me more than the Dino Fossil. Like, if I had to pick one...
Myke Hurley: Sure.
Brad Dowdy: I'm looking at the Vega over the Fossil, but I think the Fossil, obviously, is going to do really well.
Myke Hurley: So, both of those, they retail for $55.
Brad Dowdy: Yep. Yep. So, that's the MSRP. I guess that's all the information we have, you know, whatever the street price is. I don't know if whatever the final price is. But that's the MSRP is $55 on those.
New Pen Introduction
Myke Hurley: Now, they're really, really amazing. They tell great stories and they're great pens, but... The main event... Do you want to try this? Do you want to try this? Yeah. You attempt this. We're going to call it the Retro 51 Chiopino.
Brad Dowdy: Mm-hmm.
Myke Hurley: As it says on the packaging, radiates colors and elegance. This is unbelievable.
Myke Hurley: Like, okay. So, it is gold furniture, right? Like, I don't know what material it is. It's probably not gold. But it's gold in color. And what are we going to call the body? What is this? What are we going to call it? Because it's important to name it correctly.
Brad Dowdy: It is, and I don't know that we can do it correct justice because I don't know the actual definition of rodden. So, they're calling it seashell, but it's the effect, if you're familiar with fountain pens and the, what would you call that? Not translucency, but the, like the shimmer you get from rod shells and a pen.
Myke Hurley: The little pieces that are in those, like purple and blue and green colors.
Brad Dowdy: Yeah. All the broken shell pieces lacquered into... A black background, typically. A black barrel. Mm-hmm. So, the material is rose gold, not obviously gold, rose gold finish. So, I'm sure that's over, like, their standard brass accent. Rose gold accents in a full, like, and this isn't like a strip of seashells around the barrel. It's literally the entirety of the barrel minus the nose cone and clip.
Myke Hurley: Big pieces, too. Not like, you see flax a lot, but these are huge chunks. Now, again, we don't know what the actual material is here. That is information that right now we don't have, but will probably be available after the episode has been released. But I don't care what it is. This thing is stunning. Like, I can't believe they've done this. Now, it comes with a price tag. It's $99, which I think is probably the most expensive Tornado popper. They call these the poppers, right? Is that what they're called?
Brad Dowdy: I don't know the difference between the popper and the standard. I don't think this is a popper.
Myke Hurley: I can never remember, because when they introduced the one with the pressy knock on the pressy knock, that's a good way to explain it.
Brad Dowdy: Yeah, those are the popper. I think these are just the standard Tornado twist. Yeah, knurled twist top.
Myke Hurley: So I don't think it's a popper. So ignore, excuse me there. But this is without a doubt, like, it's got to be the most expensive one. But I understand why.
Brad Dowdy: Like, it's really, really good. Really good. Yeah, the first thing, when I opened up the email, I thought, oh my god, they did a little mermaid pen. That's what I thought. Because, like, the artwork, like, the font design and everything. And I was, like, all about this. This is, like, some cool under-the-water theme thing. Oh, what is this? And I was, like, whoa. It's a real, real stunning pen. I'm kind of shocked. Like, it's pretty crazy.
Myke Hurley: So chiopino is a fish stew originating in San Francisco, California. It's an Italian-American dish.
Brad Dowdy: Mm-hmm. So there, the chat room says the shimmery shine word that I'm looking for is chatoyance or opalescence or mother of pearl. But you know that shiny shell material when you see it. That's what this is. And it's a lot of it. Like, all over, coated in this pen. It's pretty fascinating.
Myke Hurley: The whole way around.
Brad Dowdy: Mm-hmm. All the way around. So that's the new limited editions. They're going to be available. I don't know. They're going to announce them this afternoon. And they'll be coming to retail pretty shortly thereafter. So once they announce them, they usually have them in retailers, like, later that week. I think is kind of the way it goes. So it should be cool. I think they'll be popular. All of them will be popular. I think three winners, as they usually do, Myke. They do good stuff.
Myke Hurley: Yeah. I don't know how they continue to.
Brad Dowdy: Mm-hmm. One final thing we should mention, reading the notes that they sent us, these are not limited editions. These are numbered editions that are not limited. So I don't know. That's kind of a newer thing they're doing. So, like, I don't know. Certainly, they don't have as many of the Chiopinos made as the Vegas made. But I don't know that for a fact. That would be an assumption on my part. But that would make sense based on the price point and the difficulty of making it.
Myke Hurley: Yeah. Yeah. Numbered. This was the term that Myke Dudek used, right?
Brad Dowdy: Well, I call it open edition.
Myke Hurley: There you go. Yeah.
Brad Dowdy: That's a good term.
Myke Hurley: But they're numbered. So they've got numbers on them. But they're not making, like, just 100 of them. Right. I don't really understand that, the numbering, if it's not limited.
Brad Dowdy: But, yeah. Yeah. Who knows? Yeah. It's a confusing thing. Honestly.
Myke Hurley: Hey-ho. All right. Should we take a break?
Brad Dowdy: Let's do it.
Sponsor Break
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Brad Dowdy: Heck no. As a matter of fact, I think my wife is going to leave me for a mattress, Myke. I mean, we have a real situation in the house right now. Is this something I can help you with? Well, you've been my roommate in the past, and I am prone to snoring quite a bit. And my wife last week got so fed up with it, she went and slept in the guest bedroom where the Casper mattress lives. And she's thinking of leaving me for the mattress, Myke. She said it was such a good night's sleep away from your snoring. And this mattress is really nice, better than our regular ones.
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Brad Dowdy: Speaking of comebacks, Myke, about every time this year when school's back in session, cursive lives once again. So this is a...
Myke Hurley: It's died, remember? It lived and then it died. Right.
Brad Dowdy: And now it's back to life again. It's a resurrection, Myke.
Cursive Discussion
Myke Hurley: So here's the thing, Brad. I saw this article. A few people linked it to me. Yes. And I had two issues. One, which is a more pressing issue. I can't look at the article unless I subscribe to the Washington Post. Really? Yep. They won't let me... Oh, hang on. They just put a big... It's just like a big banner thing I have to get through. Okay, so that's one thing. I couldn't... I didn't initially see it because I didn't notice it. But the other thing was, it felt pointless to me to read this. Yeah. I know what it's going to say. We've been through... We've danced this dance many times, you and I.
Brad Dowdy: Well, we have. Right. But the public, it's always good to have these out there in the public. I think...
Myke Hurley: Yeah, I prefer these articles to Curse of His Dead articles. I'll say that much.
Brad Dowdy: Well, because those are just... Yeah. They're pointless. The Curse of His Dead ones. Maybe you could argue these are pointless too. But I did find a couple of tidbits in there. I love it when they put in that they get from professors that these have a massive benefit for the brain. Like, anytime they put that in there in these articles, you know, and there's some studies they link to and things like that. But I love reading about that because that's something we believe in, right? Like, these are things... We know these things, right? We believe in these things. And, you know, whether it's cursive handwriting or not, you know, I've been on the... I've had the stance where I don't care about cursive. I care about handwriting. So if cursive is the handwriting that's getting taught, awesome. If you're teaching printing handwriting, awesome. You should just be teaching handwriting. They are having... One of the museums they quoted in here is having trouble finding interns that can read the old documents in cursive. So they actually started a cursive and cocktails event, which I think is cool. Like, anything built around handwriting, I'm all for. So we get these articles a lot. We could probably write these articles, right, with like an auto-generated text. We know what they're going to say from top to bottom. I still like them out there. It brings up the conversation, you know, to the forefront.
Myke Hurley: Yeah, for sure. I mean, it's a good point. It's a good point.
Brad Dowdy: But, again, I understand your point. From your and I perspective, this is a regurgitation of what we've read for years and what we believe in and what we preach. But I always think it's good to point these things out. Sometimes you get a little bit of a different insight. You know, I like that, you know, the museum's getting adults into cursive. You know, that's something you don't really hear about. You hear about it being lost in elementary school, but you don't hear the flip side of, hey, we can teach adults cursive handwriting, too. Just like we can teach them brush lettering or typography skills, you know, handwritten typography. Why can't we teach adults cursive? I think that's pretty cool. So, anyway, we'll link this into the show notes. You can check it out. I think you can get to the article. I hadn't had any problem reading through it behind a paywall or soft paywall or anything like that. So, thank you all for sending that in. We got it a bunch this week. So, this topic was an Ask TPA, but I thought it was worthy of a little bit longer conversation than we get. And it's from Michelle on Twitter. Asked, if you could run any pen brand, even for a short time, which one and why? I thought that was a fantastic question. We haven't, you know, explored that. We talk about small things. You know, individual things and what we would change. And, you know, our perceived mistakes, which generally are our mistakes, not the company's mistakes. We're just angsty about them sometimes. But if you could pick a brand to reboot and run it yourself, which one would it be? I had to think for a minute or two, but not too long. And I think for me, it would be Lamy. I think...
Myke Hurley: You went for one of my two. I had two in my mind and now you've picked one so I can pick the other one.
Brad Dowdy: Okay. Out of all the brands right now that have a big foothold in the community and seem to be growing, at least from an external perspective, I think they are most in need of a kick in the pants. I think they are... I know they just came out with these new inks, but I feel like they're resting on their laurels, playing the greatest hits. I don't think they're innovating. I would completely change their top-end bracket. I think that just needs to be scrapped completely. They need to have new high-end designs. And by high-end for Lamy, that's like a $300 pin, not a $1,000 pin, like Mont Blanc or something like that.
Myke Hurley: New 2000, right?
Brad Dowdy: Yeah.
Brad Dowdy: Or not new 2000, more with the 2000. They can do more. They're leaving a lot on the table by going into meetings and saying, what paint color do you want to use this year? I feel. They could be more well-served than just about any company with a fresh influx of products that they haven't released before. Because they have the marketing, they have the brand, they have the foothold around the globe. It's a global company. But it's getting stale and the things that they're introducing are flat. They're repaints and rebrands and they're just not being very creative at this time. And that would be my company. If I could take them over for a couple of years, I would probably scrap 75% of what they do, to be perfectly honest. I'd keep some of the lower end stuff, you know, and then just everything else would be gone. And I don't know. I think it would work because they have the price point that's right. Like, this is a price point I enjoy. I like Lamy and want Lamy to do well because I think they're affordable quality pins. And it's frustrating when it's just a regurgitation every year of paints. So, that's my pick. What would you think?
Brad Dowdy: Pilot? That was my number two. We're on the same page.
Myke Hurley: That was my number two. It's a lot of the same stuff, really. And for me, I would want to dive back into their history a little bit more. You know, like we've spoken so many times about the M90, the Murex, the Mayu, right? Like, really just stunning pens that, you know, done right, you could sell them for $400 or $500, you know, and people will buy them. You could very easily make that an executive pen line, you know, without really having to do too much work. Because that body into the nib is, you know, I show that to people a lot. And they're like, oh, I see why you like that. You know, like, you don't need to be a fan of pens to understand why that is a beautiful design. But they also just have so much at their fingertips. Like, I don't think that Pilot need maybe as much turnaround as Lamy in certain areas, right? I think that they're still doing a lot of... Pilot still do cool stuff, you know, and they're still releasing nice stuff, good inks, that kind of stuff. But I think that they are... They're really losing some of it at the top end. Like, they lean too heavily on the Vanishing Point, in my opinion. Which is a great pen, but they could do more than just coming out of a couple of new Vanishing Point colors every few months.
Brad Dowdy: I agree completely. I don't... This has been a telling year for Pilot. And it's their 100th anniversary year. There's not... I'm trying to think back. Has there been a Pilot release that has moved the needle this year that I've been, like, super positive on? I need that pen. I don't know what's going on. Nothing is happening with the brand. It is the quietest I have ever seen Pilot.
Brad Dowdy: With new products. And as long as we've done this show. I don't understand what's going on. And this is the time all of it should be going on. I don't care if it's awful stuff. They need to be overloading us with 100th anniversary products. And we haven't seen one. And on top of that, nothing in their regular lineup has changed this year. Nothing. And they have a really good price point in the low-end gold nib range. Right? The 92s, 74s, some of the translucent pens. Even the 823, that's a higher-end pen. Nothing is changing. Their ink lineup, their Roshizuku ink lineup. When we started this podcast, that was it, man. That was the pinnacle of inks. And it's just flat. Nothing is happening. I don't know what's going on with Pilot. That's why they were going to be my second choice as well.
Myke Hurley: It's like that. And I understand it. They're flat in the same way that Lamy is. But Pilot's overall offering is still stronger. Yes. So it kind of makes them second priority. Right? Like I think I was maybe going to go with Lamy first too.
Myke Hurley: Because Lamy, you know, they've had a really disappointing year, in my opinion. They've made some bad decisions. You know, like about their special editions and stuff. They've been doing a lot of uninspiring work. But Pilot do have just a stronger base product that they still offer. You know. Right. That kind of edges them out a little bit.
Brad Dowdy: Right. So it's interesting, these two brands, what we see with them as the market currently goes. You know, when you see Platinum and Sailor and, gosh, a lot of other brands. A lot of new brands popping up, you know, that we talk about regularly. These brands really haven't been in the conversation that much this year. No. And they're beloved. Like these are brands that have super fans, right? Yep.
Brad Dowdy: And they, I don't want to say they're getting left behind. That's clearly not the case. But it's been at least. They're running the risk, though. They run the risk. Yeah. They're down in the public perception. They may be up in sales, you know. You know, no matter what we say, we don't know all the sales lines they have. And Pilot's got their hands in everything besides fountain pens. They could be having very successful years. But the things that we're most interested in, they've had the most boring years out of anyone.
Myke Hurley: And it's like, look, again, like whilst we are a small part of the market, I guess, you know, the enthusiasts. But like the enthusiasts set trends. And if you're not making products that appeal to enthusiasts and not doing that on a consistent basis, it is very likely, you know, I would say that ultimately it will catch up with you. Right. And you'll get left behind.
Brad Dowdy: And it's not quick, right? It's a death of a thousand cuts.
Myke Hurley: Yep. It's a slow moving process. Because it's like, if we stop recommending them to people, right? Doesn't that, that's going to, over time, you would start to see that. Like if people that really know, people that really care, stop recommending these companies because they're less exciting. That will affect them in the long term.
Brad Dowdy: Yep. Yep. So Myke saying in the chat room, pilot can do nothing for a decade and be just fine. We agree. That doesn't mean they're not boring right now. Yep. That's exactly what I'm saying. They have so many products. They could be making money hand over fist. It doesn't mean they're just not completely boring and not innovative right now.
Myke Hurley: It's the problem with getting too focused on profit sheets.
Brad Dowdy: Yeah. Yeah. So we'll see. I mean, we're still waiting on pilot's 100th anniversary. What do we got? Three and a half months left?
Myke Hurley: Like I look at, you know, having, again, like bring my expertise in other areas to this. I look at Microsoft. Mm-hmm. Right? Like a company that still makes a ton of money, but they are considered to be kind of just like a boring company now. Yeah. You know, in a lot of ways. Mm-hmm. And they're having to try really, really hard under Satya Nadella to change that perception because they got the perception of being old and tired for a long period of time under Steve Ballmer. And now they're having to do a lot of work to try and change that public opinion. Yeah, exactly. It's a similar kind of deal in the way that I look at it. Yep.
Brad Dowdy: Yeah. So it's interesting. You know, it's just, you know, we love these companies. So you want to see them being like the best they can be. Like there's nothing wrong with these companies. They do really well. They don't need our opinions, but we're going to give them anyway because that's what we do. So the second part of Michelle's tweet that she asked us, I thought was really fun. She said, if you could trade for a month your favorite pin with someone else for a pin they have, which pins would you trade? I don't know what pin I would give up. I'd give up any of them to use one of Le Reyes' pins, particularly the Nakaya Sumiko Skull, which has been featured on our podcast many years ago when we were talking about Leyes' collections. We'll have a link in the show notes. But this is one of the most fascinating pins I've ever seen. I would love to use this pin like on a daily basis. It's got the baddest skull like finial and clip thing going on. I just think it's a stunner. So I knew it was going to be one of Leyes' pins. Then I forgot about that one. And once I saw it, I was like, yep, that's it.
Myke Hurley: I'll give anything to get your king of pin.
Myke Hurley: You know it as well. You know it. That's what I want. What one is it? What's the model number that you've got? A Sky. Name? Sky. It's the Progear Sky. It's the blue one because you can't get it anymore. That's the pin I want. Yep. Yep, for sure. That's a good question though. Yeah, that was a really good question.
Brad Dowdy: Yeah. Michelle with the fun stuff. I appreciate that. Those were good things. All right. Before we get into the legit ass TPA, I had a bunch of shout outs I wanted to do. This is something I used to do. We used to do the pin blog of the week and things like that. I just want to be sure that if you're doing something cool, let us know. I want to share it. I want to talk about it. I want to send people your way. I want to shoot some eyeballs your direction. And these are some of the things I've been listening to, Myke, or reading or all kinds of things. One was something I was in, but our good friend Kathy Campbell, Mrs. Soup on Twitter. Friend of the show. On the internet. Friend of the show. She had myself and Jason Snell on a really cool podcast called Friends in Your Ears. And you should subscribe to that podcast. It's a really cool taking people out of their normal conversations and putting them into a different place with essentially a random guest.
Myke Hurley: Two podcasters together and asks them to talk about their favorite podcasts.
Sports Ball Discussion
Brad Dowdy: Yep. It's really good. So it was cool. And Jason and I got to talk a bunch of sports ball. We're probably the two primary sports ballers in the Relay FM network. So there was lots of sports ball talk in that episode. I wanted to give a shout out to the Manuscripting Pod, which Les from Comfortable Shoes Studio just started. One of the things we talked about when I had her on, she handwrites her books, which blows my mind in a lot of ways, like the scope of that. And like Sarah that writes for the Pen Addict, she does the same thing. These kind of things impress me so much. She started a podcast on how she's doing all this. And it's mostly handwritten.
Brad Dowdy: John Contino, longtime friend who's blown up to like major league design proportions, finally launched his own podcast called The Nosecast. So he's talking about, you know, his story and how he came up through the ranks and all about his design. I'm a huge, obviously a huge fan of his design work and things like that. So he's only like four episodes into that show. So I want to give him a shout out. The Art Supply Posse is back, Myke. Did you know this?
Myke Hurley: I did not know this until I saw it. Who knows?
Brad Dowdy: So Anna handed it over to Anna. So Anna from Incantadora and Fountain Pen Companion and the internet, her and, oh, I forgot the other two hosts. They brought back the Art Supply Posse. So check back in your feeds. They just released the first rebooted episode, episode number 50. So that is now available if you want to hear about that. One of my personal shows that I listen to where I get a lot of life advice, shockingly enough, I listen to the Dave Chang show on the Ringer Network. He's a chef and world traveler and, you know, recovering everything. Like if something's gone wrong, Dave's probably lived through it. And he's building all these businesses now. And I get so much out of listening to him talk and how he's, you know, fights the demons that he has to deal with every day and just, you know, building these global restaurant chains and brands. And it's a real fascinating insight at building and creating things and fighting the demons that are fighting against you the whole way. So I get a lot out of that. And then the last one you put in here, which I want you to talk about this because this is new.
Myke Hurley: I wanted to shout out Make Do, which is a show that we've not spoken about in a while, which is hosted by Tiff Ahmet, longtime friend of the show we've had on the show before. And Julia Scott, who in case you don't remember Julia, Julia is part of the couple who came all the way from Sweden to, I think, the first time that we did the Panadict in person, like in front with an audience, maybe our second year in Atlanta, right? Am I remembering that correctly? Yeah. Yeah. So Julia and Tiff, they both do amazing art on their own. Like Tiff does a bunch of painting and stuff. And Julia, she does a lot of clay based stuff. Like she makes wonderful mugs with like these sick tentacles on the side of them. It's really great. But they have a show called Make Do, which we mentioned when it launched. I just wanted to shout out a specific episode. Like if you haven't checked out the show before, one of my favorite episodes was episode 10. It's called Ready, Set, Challenges. And they talk about setting challenges for yourself with creative projects. It is really great and encouraging to listen to as a show for any type of creative work, even though they do focus on like art based stuff. But no matter what type of creative work you may participate in, you can definitely like emphasize and feel supported by the stuff that they talk about. So I really love Make Do. So I think that people should check it out. And you should check out episode 10 if you haven't already.
Brad Dowdy: I think that's a recurring theme in a lot of my podcasts listening is I like to hear process stuff, right? I want to hear how you're doing things. So maybe I can learn how to do things better. How did you overcome the challenges that you've had in making things or putting words on a page or pencil to the page or keystrokes on a computer screen? I like to hear about those processes and challenges and difficulties because we can all take something away from that. And I tend to do that a lot.
Brad Dowdy: Good stuff. Hit us up with more. Myke Ink Dependence on YouTube. Shout him out. Okay. He does stuff. He does stuff. That's what he says. He does stuff. But no, Myke's been a guest on the show. You need to head over to the Ink Dependence channel on YouTube. Check out all his awesome videos. He did a whole knock shootout here not too long ago. And he's getting into bag stuff. You know where me and Myke spent like five or ten minutes talking about bags before we even put the show live today. So yeah, go check out Myke's reviews.
Myke Hurley: All right. I want to also thank Eero for their support of this week's episode. Eero have built the Wi-Fi system that they wanted to have in their own homes and they wanted to share it with you too. A fast, reliable connection in every room is what Eero can give you, even out to the backyard. The new second generation Eero includes a third 5 gigahertz radio. Eero makes it twice as fast as ever before. Whatever your Wi-Fi needs, Eero will blanket your entire home in fast, reliable Wi-Fi. The system sits flat on any surface. You just plug it into the wall with the included power adapter and you're ready to connect your Eero either via Ethernet or wirelessly. And then they also have the tiny Eero beacon. This is what you do. You plug these little things in. You can plug in as many as you want and expand coverage to all over your home. So you don't have to move to a different part of the house to get the fastest internet speed. The little Eero beacons will be able to provide you and blanket your home in that Wi-Fi. They also have a little light light in them as well, which is really cute. Having one router doesn't work anymore. You need, like light waves. Think of light waves, right? If you turn on a light in one room, it doesn't light your entire home, right? Because light doesn't travel through walls. Well, stuff can get in the way of Wi-Fi signals. So having a system which is distributed amongst multiple little pieces around the home, so like having the one big Eero and then the beacons, will make sure that you get great Wi-Fi enterprise-grade speeds all over your home. And it's so easy to set up. And Brad, I believe that you have an Eero, right?
Brad Dowdy: I do. And I did not know what I was getting into when I got this, but I'm very impressed. So we talk all about my poor internet all the time. Yep. And like Eero doesn't make my speeds faster, but it makes my speeds reach the entirety of my house. So before I had it installed, I couldn't get really good internet Wi-Fi in my bedroom. It would basically bounce me on and off the Wi-Fi. Now when I, like the Eero app is what's blowing me away. So I can go into like my bedroom and check the speed from after I installed the Eero with the, what are the, what are the little things called you plug in the wall? The beacons. The beacons. It's the same speed in my bedroom now as it is in the living room. That's awesome. Where, yeah, where my router is, which is, it kind of knocked my socks off. I, cause I didn't think, I had no expectations, right? Because we talk about this all the time, like how frustrating it is, but it really like spread the internet coverage around my house to get the same speed, no matter what part of the house I'm in. The other thing in this app, I can see all the connected devices to, to the Eero and I can kick people off. Like when my, my kids are, you know, watching YouTube too much, I can just zap them right off the, right off the internet. I'm just kidding. But you can, you can, you can, you can set rules. Yeah. For each device just from this app, which I did. So like I can turn, you know, connectivity off to certain devices at certain hours of the day. It's a fascinating device. I didn't know everything that was involved with it till I started setting it up and now I can, I kind of can't stop playing with it. So I have all my, I have like my living room device and you can name all these devices in the app. I have the hallway beacon and I have the dining room beacon, you know, to spread out the, uh, the coverage throughout my house. The night lights come in shockingly handy. My, my wife was confused the first night we, uh, we turned it off and she's like, what is happening? I was like, Oh, there's these nightlights and you can change the brightness of them and you can turn them off if you don't like them. But you know, having kids, they like to have the nightlights in the hallways when they get up in the middle of the night. So I don't know. I've, I've been kind of blown away by it because I didn't know what this was like in reality, what it did. But once I've put it in place, I'm kind of hooked to it. Like I'm playing around in the app all the time. Like, you know, what can I do? How can I make it better? You know, is my speed good? You know, testing things out. So it's very cool. Very happy with it so far.
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Ink Review Question
Brad Dowdy: All right, let's hit that Ask TPA first one from the always wonderful name, Hot Couple of Loving. In regards to the question about inks looking so different online, I found that having pen pals who use fountain pens solves that problem. If they have the ink I want, I ask them to write me with it.
Myke Hurley: How genius is that? That is a very, very good idea. It's just like that is a great way to get new pen pals, too. Like if you see someone like a friend of yours on Instagram, you see the ink, you're like, hey, write me a letter, right? Like you don't have to be existing pen pals, I guess.
Brad Dowdy: Yeah. Yeah. So Brian followed up with that and I answered him on Twitter already. He said he asked about color correction on ink reviews. Using the coloring cards is the best because they're so consistent and you compare them with the cards that you make. So if everyone's using the same format, you can compare them with others. So it's good when reviewers use common inks as comparisons. And like I agree with that completely in person. But when you're going through two lenses or two displays before you get to see the end result, it's still not going to match. Like between the camera taking the picture and the monitor someone's viewing it on, you can say, okay, it's the same ink on the same coloring, but the camera could be shot with different lighting and the monitor setup could be different. So it's still hard digitally to capture that. But I do like the idea of consistency. Of course, Johnny wants to pick up, pick up his first gold nib pen concerning Franklin Kristoff or Pilot Custom 823, which is your preferred writing experience. They're different. You know, it depends on what you're looking for in a pen. You know, is there a Franklin Kristoff design that really speaks to you as far as shape and materials? Maybe go that route. Does the filling system and the transparency demonstrator look of the 823 appeal to you? Go that route because the gold nibs Franklin Kristoff uses are great. Pilot's gold nibs are fantastic. You know, my preferred writing experience is my preferred writing experience, not your preferred writing experience. So it's hard to tell you which to pick. I can say if those are your two choices, you're not going to make a mistake at this point. So decide on aesthetics because the nibs you're going to get are going to be really good. So that's kind of my thought process. You know, if you like the technical aspects of the vac filling 823 and you write a lot and need a heavy ink capacity, that might be a good choice. But you can also eyedropper most of the Franklin Kristoffs and get probably even more ink capacity. So lots of things to consider. You can't go wrong picking one of those out. And yes, Johnny, you will see me at the Dallas Pen Show coming up in just a couple of weeks. Tom wants to know, do you have any recommendations for well-behaved teal inks for everyday use? I missed out on bottles of Lamy Petrol and I'm running low on cartridges. So would like to pick up a bottle. So this question poses problems, Myke.
Brad Dowdy: Because I see teal as not anything related to Lamy Petrol. And this is something we run into all the time. Yes. At Pen Show. Well, that's in my definition, right? Tom has a definition. Tom sees the ink a certain way. He wants a dark green blue type of ink. Where I think of teal as more turquoise looking very bright, vibrant with a little bit more green than a turquoise would have. So what I would do, I think the best range of inks to shop in right now is that you can get a good quality ink and, you know, find a color that's close to what you think you want to see is probably Robert Oster. So I'd find one of the online shops. Pick your favorite like Penn Jellet. Go to the Robert Oster section. Look at all the ink samples. He has, he has it covered, right? I mean, you're not going to miss out a color that's going to match to Lamy Petrol. As a matter of fact, he is making a Petrol here pretty soon. Robert Oster or something called Petrol. I don't know what that color. It looked, I think, even darker than the Lamy's, but I could be wrong. Anyway, look through those colors and find a color match and buy that ink because it's a very good quality ink at a very good price. And he should have the color that matches what you're looking for. So that's the best I can recommend right now. Um, I'm trying to think like deep sea green Faber Castell was one that might be close to that Lamy Petrol. I'd have to look. I think it's still lighter and greener. All right. Last one, Bo from, he said, a find from our local Chicagoland Kino Kania. Any idea about the story behind this pen? The salesperson said it was a new limited edition in the last month. All the paperwork is, of course, Japanese. So this looks like one of the, um, Sailor Procolor, I think they call it. And I think Anna replied to him because Bo, I know you very well. And you know me very well. My Instagram tag, my Instagram name is not at Pen Addict. Unfortunately, that goes to the guy that won't sell me the Pen Addict account.
Myke Hurley: Your Twitter, you mean? My Twitter.
Brad Dowdy: My Twitter. Yeah. My Twitter. Sorry. So Anna, Instagram says it looks like a Procolor. And that's what it looks like. It's the steel nib variant of, um, Sailor pens that they've introduced in the last few years. And, uh, I haven't really used many of these because I actually haven't been a fan of Sailor steel nibs. I've had bad luck with them in the past, but this is a neat, uh, demonstrator barrel. And it looks like it comes as a set with a Shikiori ink all together in a set and a, um, converter with a white cap to kind of a white, uh, piston knob to kind of go, um, go with the pen. I have not seen that before today though. So it looks kind of cool. I like them with it when they do, um, you know, do different things like this at all kinds of price points. So I'm all for it. I wonder how much it is. Can't be that much.
Myke Hurley: No.
Brad Dowdy: If it's a steel nib. Cause I think they normally run around 45, $50. I don't know if the limited edition makes it more expensive and it comes with a bottle of ink. So yeah, probably like on a saying maybe around 75 bucks. Cool. It's about right for this setup. It is cool looking.
Myke Hurley: Very cool.
Brad Dowdy: So that's it for this week, Myke. We covered all the bases. Good work.
Myke Hurley: You can find our show notes relay.fm slash pen addict slash three, two, four.
Myke Hurley: That's where they live.
Brad Dowdy: That's where they live. Where do you live Myke on the internet?
Myke Hurley: Uh, I am at I Myke, I M Y K E on Twitter. Um, and on Instagram too. You can find me there as well. Uh, you can find Brad in a variety of places. Brad, what is, what is the best place? What's the canonical place right now for you?
Brad Dowdy: Pen addict.com has links to all the things you can find me on Twitter at dowdyism, D O W D Y I S M. Brad is on Instagram and Twitch. Pen addict.
Myke Hurley: Yes. Yes. Yes. Twitch.tv slash pen addict. What do you got? What do you got coming up? What do you got coming up?
Brad Dowdy: Tomorrow we're going to do. It depends. Tomorrow. We're either going to do an unboxing session or a journaling session before we head into a destiny to forsaken release session.
Myke Hurley: Oh yeah. I'd saw a bunch of news coming out about that. You excited?
Brad Dowdy: Oh, very excited. It came out yesterday. So I played a little bit. It's very fun.
Myke Hurley: I'm trying to stay off everything until Friday. That's Friday. Spider-Man Day. Yeah. I've got a PS4 Pro coming.
Brad Dowdy: I've heard. I listen to your show sometimes.
Myke Hurley: Yeah, I'm so friggin' excited for that game. Like, it's unreal. I cannot wait for it. It looks so good.
Brad Dowdy: So, hopefully I'll have a daytime Twitch session tomorrow. TBD.
Myke Hurley: All right. Thanks so much to Eero, Casper, and Harry's for their support of the show. Thank you so much for listening. We'll be back next week. Until then, say goodbye, Brad. Goodbye, Brad.