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Episode:	125
Title:	Made by a Guy Named Brian
Release Date:	October 20th, 2014
Hosts:	Brad Dowdy Myke Hurley
Guests:	Mike Dudek
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Official page:	Episode 125
Audio File:	Audio Episode 125
Podcast page:	The Pen Addict 125
Length:	6565 min <br />1.083 h <br /> minutes
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Myke Hurley: Hello and welcome to The Pen Addict episode 125 on RelayFM. This episode of The Pen Addict is brought to you by lynda.com, where you can instantly stream thousands of courses created by industry experts. You can sign up for a free trial at lynda.com slash penaddict, our friends at Karas Customs, and also Hover, Simplified Domain Management. My name is Myke Hurley, and I'm joined, as always, by Mr. Brad Dowdy.

Brad Dowdy: How's it going, Myke? Very well, sir. How are you? Good, good. I'm glad to be here. I'm excited. We have a special guest on today. We have Mr. Myke Dudek from The Clicky Post. How's it going, Myke? Doing well. How are you guys? Good, good. Shouldn't you be working today to be able to afford all the pens you've been buying recently? You know, I can take days off every once in a while, you know. As long as they're paid vacations, right? That's right, yeah. Yeah, I mean, we gotta keep the economy moving, and you're a big help to the pen economy, I know that. And we're gonna get into that heavily with a really, really new topic and addiction that you're having that I am a big fan of. So we're gonna talk about that momentarily, but we got a couple other things to cover. Mr. Hurley.

Myke Hurley: Yep.

Brad Dowdy: What you got in your hands there? You got something special? Oh, Brad.

Edison Menlo

Myke Hurley: I do have a very special pen here. It's one that I've been talking about for a little while, and it's been in the making for months, I think. How long have we been working on these? Months?

Brad Dowdy: Oh, six months, I'm guessing.

Myke Hurley: So this is due to the help of our friend Thomas Hall, and Brad, can you help me tell the story a little bit leading up to this? Sure, sure. So we got an email from Thomas about six months or so ago, and he said to us, look, guys, I've... It all sounds so shady when you say it out loud. I've been able to obtain some material. Or I'm in the process of being able to obtain a special material called Tibaldi. I assume that's how it's pronounced. It's T-I-B-A-L-D-I? Yes. I'd never heard of it before. I'm not 100% sure what Tibaldi is, but it is a type of material of some description, and its pens are frequently made from it. But there it is. It comes in these rods.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah, it's a fancy brand with a fancy material.

Myke Hurley: So it's... And he said, yeah, I've come into these rods, and if you want to purchase them, let me know, and I'll buy some for you, and we can have pens made out of them. So he deliberated over it a little bit, and he sent all over some pictures of other pens that have been made out of Tibaldi. And, you know, he said, please, you know, just be aware, they do not photograph as well as they look. So I looked at it, I thought, it looks quite interesting. And it seems interesting to have a pen of my own made from a raw material that I also purchased. Something quite romantic about that. So we purchased, we've all purchased the Tibaldi rods. And then what kind of followed is pretty much weekly emails from a collection of yourself, myself, Thomas, and Brian Edison, because we had the rods sent to Brian Edison at Edison Pens.

Brad Dowdy: Brian Gray.

Myke Hurley: Oh, I always do that. Brian Gray at Edison Pens. Oh, dear. I've got, I refer, I had colloquially referred to him as Brian Edison, right? There's a comma there. There's a comma there that I couldn't quite pronounce. It's Brian at Edison Pens. And so basically we was talking about it a lot. And then Thomas got his and he was sending us pictures of it. And he basically went with a, I can't remember what his setup was.

Brad Dowdy: But so he went with the Menlo model, but in an eyedropper version without the filling system.

Myke Hurley: Right. Okay. And I think he had like, he didn't have the pen completely made out of the Tibaldi material. He had like, I think the ends of it were black. Yep. Like black acrylic. So I was deliberating on it a little bit and I was going backwards and forwards with Brian about what I would have done. And I pulled the trigger on easily the most expensive pen I've ever purchased because I kind of decided to go a little bit all out with it. So aside from the cost of the material, which is just like $50 or something. I don't think it was too expensive, the cost of the material. Yeah.

Brad Dowdy: I think it was like $40 for the rod. Yeah. Of material.

Myke Hurley: But I went with a, I went with the Menlo pump filler.

Brad Dowdy: Ooh.

Myke Hurley: And I also got a, it may have got an 18 carat gold nib.

Brad Dowdy: Man, you're a pimp.

Myke Hurley: I know. And I also got it ground to a 1.1 stub. Yeah. You'll like that. So I, I've had it. Oh, and then also, oh God. So, so it was, it was expensive, right? These, these things are relatively expensive. Uh, just everything, you know, the, the nib and the work and all of that. And then I got hit with another $100 in customs fees.

Brad Dowdy: Oh God. I always forget about that. That's brutal.

Myke Hurley: So this was like a, I think it came in at like all in all, probably close to about $700.

Myke Hurley: Oh man. I know. And it's kind of exactly what I wanted it to be. So I tried taking pictures of this, but there's not really any point in me doing it because the pictures that I can take don't do a good enough job. So I don't know, Brad, if you know of any good pictures of, of pens made of this kind of material.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah, I can get some. I've seen some that are really, really good.

Myke Hurley: And we'll put those in the show notes because I, I tried taking pictures and I just couldn't get the right light to, to show off this material. It's basically like predominantly like dark blue and black, but it has flecks of like light gray and blue, kind of like a marble like finish really. It's probably the closest that I would compare it to. And I have like silver accents, like the clip and the ring. What do we call that? Is it dressing? No. What's the word? Furniture. Furniture. That's it. Not dressing.

Myke Hurley: And I'm, I'm super happy with it. It's, this is not a pen I would use every day. And that was kind of the intention. Like I didn't expect to buy a pen like this and spend that amount of money and then use it every day. It just felt like it was going to be, and I kind of bought it that way, right? A 1.1 stub nib is not necessarily a daily use. It can be, but I don't think in all instances it is. Um, but this thing is, it's really special. It's, you know, it's both smooth and scratchy depending on how I use it, right? Depending on how I hold it. Um, I've, I've got the Roshizuku ink in here and I'm, I'm just very, very happy with it. It's more than anything. Like it's a, I wanted a pen that was kind of just like a, a beautiful piece in and of itself. And I kind of purchased it as like a, um, congratulations on starting relay. This is the last pen you'll be able to buy. You know? And that was kind of like how I set it up. Like a pen of this amount of money, I can't see myself purchasing for some time. Um, you know, anything over the $100 range might be over my price range at the moment, at least for the next few months. So I had a little bit of money saved up in space credits.

Myke Hurley: So I decided to just go for it.

Edison Pens

Brad Dowdy: Well, that's awesome. I'm proud of you for, uh, going through this whole process. It's, uh, you know, from really from scratch, almost the raw material, the rod and working with Brian Gray on a design and getting it done and coordinated and being able to pick out every little piece that you want. Um, it was expensive as all get out, but, uh, I think you're going to like it. And that's, that's a pen, you know, that, you know, 50 years down the line, you're still going to have that pen and you're still going to have that story. So it was expensive, but I, I hope you feel that it's, it's worth it.

Myke Hurley: It's like, you know, I haven't said much about like the, the nib and the writing cause it's an Edison, right? They're just good. Like they are, there's nothing to say. If you know, Edison pens, they're just good. And, and like, I'm very happy with it. And, and, you know, I didn't need the gold nib. I kind of just wanted it. Right. A lot of this was like this pen. I don't know. It's just something that I have now and I'm really happy that I own it. I will probably never go through this process again. Um, not that it wasn't enjoyable. It's just stressful. Um, and it's a little bit more of a thing to do, you know? Um, but I'm, I'm really, really happy that I have done it and I'm happy that I own this, this beautiful little pen here. Um, and, and I'm happy I won't see, cause it was all these little things as well. Like the Edison, um, pump filler. That's like, it's a really interesting way to fill a pen, but it's, it's not the optimal way to do it. Like, but it's just, you know, cause I, if correct me if I'm wrong to keep the pen at a relative size, you can't hold as much ink. Right.

Brad Dowdy: Um, it holds, it holds quite a bit of ink. I think, I don't know the actual specs on it, but, uh, Brian's got the specs on, on how much it holds.

Myke Hurley: But it wouldn't necessarily be the way that I would choose to. Sure. Sure. But it was all just about like having this thing. Yeah. That would remind me of this big thing that I've just done. Yeah, exactly. You know, and that's kind of what I've attributed, attributed it to. There's one thing that I wanted to mention about the craftsmanship. So with the Menlo, you, you kind of, you have the end, you kind of unscrew the whole end off to, to get to the pump. Yes. It's like a whole, the whole end piece, the tail of the pen comes off. The seam is like barely noticeable, like to touch.

Myke Hurley: It's just incredible. Like, and also like receiving this pen and how good it feels and great it looks. I cannot believe that it was just made by a guy.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. That's a trip, isn't it?

Myke Hurley: Yeah. It's like, okay, this pen is like, it's perfect. It is made perfectly. It feels like it couldn't have just been made by a guy named Brian. In a, in a, like a where, you know, like in like his workshop. It, I'm, I'm super happy about it. And thank you so much to Thomas and to Brian Gray of Edison pens, uh, for helping set this up for me. Uh, cause you know, I'm, I'm really, really happy about it. And I'm pleased that I went down this little journey and that's just something new. I mean, this, this show has always been new things and this is another new thing that I've done. I don't think you've ever done this yet, Brad. Have you?

Brad Dowdy: I haven't. Mine is, uh, in progress. I'm about six weeks out for mine. Cause I, it took me forever to decide what I wanted to do. Um, what kind of barrel I wanted. So, uh, we'll, we'll talk about mine when I get it. Uh, you know, hopefully that'll be my, my Christmas present to me. So hopefully it'll, it'll be done in time.

Myke Hurley: It was one of those things. Like I just, I sat on the invoice, like before, before I asked Brian to start work, I just like sat on it for a couple of weeks and I was like, am I going to do this? Yeah, I'm going to do this. Yeah, I'm going to do it. That was kind of how I took myself into it a little bit.

Brad Dowdy: Now, Dudek, did you get in on this Tabaldi rod thing? I can't remember if Thomas, um, made a mention that you got one or not. I can't remember what he told me.

Mike Dudek: He, uh, yeah, he did mention it to me and I may or may not have an order in through Edison.

Ink Properties

Myke Hurley: What is wrong with us?

Brad Dowdy: I was going to say, we are so sick. It's not even funny. It's, we all have an illness.

Mike Dudek: It's true.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. Yeah. So, um, so, um, if by chance you happen to have a pin being made from a Tabaldi rod, when might you expect it to be complete?

Mike Dudek: Just if theoretically, um, maybe six weeks.

Brad Dowdy: Okay.

Myke Hurley: Yeah.

Brad Dowdy: So, yeah. Okay.

Myke Hurley: I thought I was deliberating on this, but you guys, you've taken ages. Thomas had his done in like half an hour.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah, he did. He knew. Yeah. He's had his, he's had his for six months practically by this time, but I couldn't decide what, uh, barrel model I wanted. So, um, well, we'll talk about that when I get mine, but that was my, uh, that was my huge delay in actually making a definitive choice. Um, so now that choice has been made and now it is a work in progress.

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Brad Dowdy: Awesome. Thank you, Lynda.com. And we've got a pen blog of the week. It is the pen habit this week, which is at penhabit.com. And Matt over there at penhabit does mostly video reviews. It might actually be all video reviews, but his primary deal is video reviews of fountain pens. And he does an awesome, awesome job. And I'm pointing it out now because he went through, he's going through a kind of a changeover phase right now to where he made a post back on the 3rd of October where he was talking about all the pressure and all the time and all the effort and all the money he's put into making all these videos and, you know, how, you know, the YouTube commenters kind of put him on tilt and he was kind of raging against that a little bit and understandably so. So it's a good kind of insight to see what kind of what he's gone through in making the pen habit. But he was thinking about just stopping and, you know, cutting it off and not doing any more reviews. But he had some time to think about it. He's going to keep doing them. So I want y'all to make sure to check out the pen habit, support Matt. He does a really good job in making all these videos. And he definitely is a worthwhile of taking a look at his blog. So I appreciate Matt and check out penhabit.com.

Brad Dowdy: All right. So we have one more pen kind of follow up topic we want to talk about before we really get into Mr. Dudek's newest passion. But Dudek, you have the benefit of being close to our friends at Kara's Customs there in the Phoenix area. And we have all, and I'm saying me and Myke and probably a bunch of our listeners who back the project have just received our ink pens from their Kickstarter project. Yay, finally. We'll have Dan on here one day to talk about everything they went through to getting it done. But Dudek, why don't you talk about the ink real quick? Tell us what you have. I know you've had one for a while and have had some prototypes along the way. Do you have a... Prototypes? Yeah.

Mike Dudek: You know, I had a prototype at one point, and I just, I think the Royal Mail got a hold of it. Something, something happened.

Myke Hurley: I'm so bad at returning things. I have some of Thomas's pens here as well. I'm just the worst. I promise you that I will take this thing to the post office and send it back to you. Oh, no big deal.

Brad Dowdy: He's been talking about that for like a month, so I had to make sure to put him on the spot a little bit.

Mike Dudek: No, it's all good. And being close to those guys, I get to literally stop in, I don't know, some months it seems like I'm there once a week, spending time with those guys and hanging out with Dan. But yeah, it's the, with the ink being the timeline of it, you know, as far as it, there being some slight delay, obviously on it. Slight, probably in many people's ideas of slight is an understatement. But from what I've seen coming through social media and Instagram, everybody is just blown away and excited about it. And so it's, I love it. Like I absolutely, I've just been excited for those guys to finish it up so that they can kind of, I guess you can rest from their labor a little bit of trying to get it all done. But no, it's fantastic. Yeah. What I ended up getting for my reward, I went with just actually the plain aluminum with aluminum grip for the fountain pen. And in my opinion, I mean, I love the colors. I actually ended up buying a black one too.

Dan Designs

Mike Dudek: But I think in, I don't know, in my opinion, with Dan's designs of all the pens, you know, the Render K, the Bolt, the Retract, and the ink, I think the aluminum, just the plain aluminum for some reason in my mind, just sort of showcases the simplicity. Yet, you know, just how clean and sleek the designs are. I don't know. So I went with that one for my first one. And then of course, I'll probably end up with half a dozen of the colors over time.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. So I've got, I ordered the orange with the aluminum section for my reward. And like you said, and like all of their products before, the build quality is top notch. It's actually better than it's ever been before, I think, to be perfectly honest.

Brad Dowdy: The lines are so clean. The tolerances are spot on. Every little bit of it is perfect, really. I mean, as far as the build goes. I mean, it's one of those pens I end up just fooling around with when I'm not writing with it, you know, taking the cap on and off and unscrewing it just because it looks so good. And it's really nice to hold and use. And, you know, I inked mine up finally yesterday. And, you know, it writes really well. It's got the Schmidt fine nib. But I will definitely be swapping out nibs yet. I mean, with this, I haven't done it yet. But I like to play around with different nibs. And I'm glad they went with this nib unit because there's a few different things you can do. I haven't played around with it and gotten, you know, what all is going to fit in there properly yet. Have you done any of that, Myke?

Mike Dudek: I haven't, no. But I, in reading kind of Thomas's recent Twizbee review where he talks about, like, nib swapping, I'd imagine this unit takes probably a lot of different types. And so you could probably do a lot of really cool stuff.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. And this one's real easy to swap, even for me. And I'm always hesitant about doing that kind of stuff. This is a super simple one, which I'm glad they went with this choice because it's a fine nib on its own. I mean, it's a smooth writer, real clean, good nib. And I'm actually, you know, might use it in a different pen. But if I'm going to use this pen a lot, I'm going to switch it out to probably something with a stub or a cursive italic nib that I have laying around. I've got a bunch of extra nibs laying around all of a sudden. So, yeah, I mean, I can't say enough about this pen. I will say the orange anodization is lighter than the Render K, my orange Render K. I talked to Dan about it. They're using a different anodizing company. So the colors are a little bit different. It still looks good. It leans a little bit more yellowy gold orange than just like pure orange. But it looks so good. I mean, I'm really, really happy with it.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah, I love it. What about what about yours, Mr. Hurley? What did what did you end up going with?

Myke Hurley: So I went with I went with two. And the reason that I went with two is, I mean, I'm I'm convinced to this day that the Dan and the guys at Karras Customs, they made this pen for me because there's there are two configurations of the ink. There's the fountain pen version, which you guys have been talking about. But there's also a version which takes the Schmidt P8126 capsules rollable refill. Now, this is important because it's the same refill as the Retro 51, which I maintain is the best rollable refill that money can buy.

Myke Hurley: And you can. So I have two of them. So I went with a blue one and an orange one. So I got I got a fountain pen version and I got a and I got the rollable version. So I have a blue one and an orange one. I swapped the caps over. So I have two half and halves. And I'm so happy I did that. I come so happy I bought two in two different colors because now I have these two pens and they're half and half. And I posted them to Instagram yesterday and people have been going crazy for it because it looks so cool to have these two different pens. Like I have them like sitting opposite each other and they're like half and half. And I'm really pleased with the colors that I chose, like a really bright blue and a really bright orange. They're just fantastic. And there's just all these little details about them. Like Karras Customs pens are always really well made, as we said before. But they were always like there's just a thing about them where I always wanted to own them, but I never used them like on a daily basis because they they didn't necessarily make the type of pen that I use. Like what they didn't have a fountain pen and they didn't have one where I could use the Retro 51 because it's pretty much the only non fountain pen pen that I use on a daily basis. They use different gel inks and, you know, we've been through this and I tried them all out and I have some render case that has some cool refills in them. But it was this one specific refill was the one that I wanted to use. So, I mean, I've been using both of these for the last couple of days and I'm just I'm just blown away by it. I'm just so happy. The Schmidt fountain pen nib is really cool. I've used the medium before and I wasn't sure because they changed it originally with the Kickstarter from medium to fine because basically they did a vote and it's what most people wanted by quite a big majority. But I love the fine. It's not fine, fine.

Brad Dowdy: No, not at all.

Myke Hurley: It's got it's it definitely lays down a good line. And I've been I've been using the fountain pen at work and the rollerball at home. And I I'm just I'm so happy with this with these pens and they make really cool noises. Just in general. So like, for example, like when you take the caps off.

Myke Hurley: Those noises and the clips. I discovered this and found out that you guys have both discovered this before we started make like a musical noise. So would we like to play some sort of like symphony orchestra right now?

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. Jay Robert Lennon on Twitter. It was the first one. I when I saw it, he said, hey, it cares customs. I didn't I realized today that your clip could be used as a tuning fork. That was the official lamest, lamest part of the podcast ever. That's pretty good.

Myke Hurley: It was just nice. I caught it on a notebook earlier. It went ding.

Brad Dowdy: Oh, hello. Hello. No, I just these I can't stop fiddling with their pens. And it's from the render K to this one. I just always have them with me. I just I just enjoy using them. I enjoy looking at them. I enjoy, you know, monkeying around with them and fidgeting with them. I don't know. It's like you said that you feel like it's made for you, Myke. It's just such a good fit for me. And I just yeah, I can't say enough about it. Enough good things about it. And, you know, it took a little bit of extra time, but they nailed it on the on the back end. And that's what it's all about.

Myke Hurley: I don't mind waiting as long as what I get is a quality product at the end of it.

Brad Dowdy: No, no. And I shoot. I certainly can't complain. I've been there. Yeah, you've actually done it. Yeah, I've been late.

Myke Hurley: Now, it just so happens that we had arranged with Krauss Customs and they were going to be sponsoring this week's episode. They're going to be sponsoring a few episodes now coming up over the next few months. And our inks both arrived and it was kind of lucky. So this episode is also brought to you by our friends at Krauss Customs. Now, me, Brad and Myke have been telling you about how much we love the ink. It is fully machined. It's an aluminium pen. Aluminium. OK, so an aluminium fountain pen that features an interchangeable grip section, which allows you to change it from a fountain pen to a rollable pen in a matter of seconds. Now, I own two of them, but you can actually buy the extra parts at the Krauss Customs store. So you can buy one pen and you could buy like the fountain pen nib or you could buy like you could buy the fountain pen. You could get the rollable parts that you need, which is really cool. So you can basically buy one body of a pen and you can swap it out as you see fit. But it's available to buy directly now because we're talking about our Kickstarter editions. But Krauss Customs now have the ink for sale. It was an absolutely runaway success at Kickstarter. And it's so clear to see why. And I really think that you all pen addicts should own one of these. Both versions of the grip section come in anodized aluminium, brass or copper to further customize the look and feel of your pen. I didn't mention, but I have aluminium on mine on both because I like the aluminium finish. And the pen body can be purchased in a rainbow of anodized colors and features a hand polished stainless steel musical clip. All made with love in the USA. I love the guys at Krauss Customs. I think they do such fantastic stuff. And, you know, we've spoken about these guys so much and you should help support them. They are a great part of this little community that we have. They kind of came out of nowhere. They got involved in pens and now they're making some of the best stuff around. So, Krauss Customs are offering you a fantastic 15% off the ink. You want to enter the code KARAUSINK, all one word. That's K-A-R-A-S-I-N-K, before you check out. So, you add the items to your shopping cart. You can add the coupon code there before you check out. Do this between today, October 20th and November 3rd and you'll get a fantastic 15% off. So, thank you so much to Krauss Customs for supporting this week's episode of the Pen Addict and Relay FM.

Brad Dowdy: Thanks so much, Dan and Krauss Customs and Bill. We appreciate your guys' support. And we're definitely huge fans here. And I'm glad you mentioned the different section materials, Myke, because I forgot all about that. I was feeling kind of guilty looking through all the Twitter pictures and Instagram pictures of everyone's ink that we were receiving. And almost no one went with the aluminum. I saw brass and copper everywhere for our grip sections. But the three of us went with aluminum. So, I felt justified then. But I was like, should I have ordered the copper? Should I have gotten the brass? Because everyone had them. And they look so good. You know, like the copper. You can get the copper with like the black anodized barrel. Yeah, that's a sweet one. That was really, really good looking. So, anyway. Thanks, Krauss Customs. And definitely check that out and get your 15% off your orders. And it's cool that you can just order the parts for the rollerball or fountain pen and swap them out in a single barrel, too. So, definitely check that out.

Brad Dowdy: Hey, Mr. Dudek. Hey. How's it going?

Mike Dudek: It's good. Along the lines of the Karis, it's still a little bit enigmatic right now as far as details. But there may be a little something coming up within the next month with Dudek and Karis.

Myke Hurley: I like how you say, oh, it's a little. Two of you can't stop posting pictures.

Pen Reviews

Brad Dowdy: It's totally their fault. It's totally their fault. We need to put this in the show notes, Myke. And I didn't put it in there. But let's talk about that real quick. And then we're going to get into your pilot problem. So, you're obviously well-known for the Clicky Post and your pen reviews. And you're also super well-known for all of the pen holders and different type of desk accessories you make out of wood that you sell. Dudek Modern Goods, under the Dudek Modern Goods name. We're obviously huge fans. You've sent us some in the past. We're actually, from a knock perspective, we're a customer of yours. We purchased your goods. And they're all made out of walnut. Is that correct? Yeah. Yep. Yeah. So, all the products you're making right now are out of walnut. But you're coming up with something a little bit different with your products and Karis Customs. So, tell us a little bit about that real quick.

Mike Dudek: Yeah. Being kind of close by, obviously. And we have kind of a good friendship that, you know, outside of just me being fanatical about their products. We have a good kind of relationship going. And just months ago, we talked about doing a collaborative product. And we toyed around with some different ideas, some different designs. And what we, Dan and I, you know, just were sitting down kind of one afternoon. And we were whipping up. And Dan's amazing. Like, this guy is fantastic with regard to design. And we just came up with what would be kind of a representation of one of my products. The first one, the cube, out of aluminum. So, it's, you know, Dan whipped it up. And it looks like a cube. And it has the same number of holes. But it's machined out of solid aluminum, which is pretty awesome. So, it is solid.

Myke Hurley: Because when I saw it originally, I was like, that's insane.

Mike Dudek: It's just a huge block of aluminum. I have the prototype right here on my desk. One of the first prototypes. And it weighs about two pounds.

Mike Dudek: But it's fantastic. It's fantastic. To sort of take away any scares, right? Of, oh, it's made out of metal. Am I going to put my pens in there? To prevent that, that's one of the big things that I talked about was, well, what can we do inside to protect the pens? And so, what's been machined is individual sleeves out of Delrin that are press-fit perfectly into every single hole. Wow. So, it's a beautiful piece. Beautiful piece. So, we're looking probably in the next month, I'd say. And I've been given the okay by the guys to say we are going to go the route of Kickstarter. Because this is a new, sort of entirely new venture. Like, outside of pens and things. And so, we're going to go that route. And I know there was some discussion maybe about shipping because of the weight. And there is, they've sort of partnered with this really awesome shipping group that they can get it down, like, even for international. Somewhere around, like, ten bucks. Wow. Something like that. So, it's... Okay. We're going to work really hard to make sure that everybody all over isn't going to get, you know, stuck with crazy shipping rates because of the weight. But we're really excited. So, I guess stay tuned for that.

Brad Dowdy: All right. So, you definitely sold me with the Delrin sleeves in there. Because, obviously, that was my initial question. Yep. Right? I mean, any, like, pen junkie is going to go, well, you know, is it going to spin around and, you know, rough up the pen barrels? But that's a brilliant idea. And Dan's an awesome, awesome designer and engineer of that stuff. So, I know it's going to be rock solid. So, that's awesome. That is... Wow. That's exciting. So, good. We'll look forward to that. And, you know, hopefully we'll see it on Kickstarter before long. And I'm guessing you're going to need to sell a bunch of those to afford all these pens you've been buying, right?

Brad Dowdy: Maybe a few. Maybe a few. Yeah, maybe a few. So, if you're not familiar with Myke Dudek's reviews at the Clicky Post, Myke does a beautiful job, beautiful photography. And you can tell kind of a running theme on, in general, what type of pens Myke likes. And for a while, Rotring played a huge, huge role in his posting and reviewing, and still does. But there was kind of a switch about a month ago. And, you know, you can only... There's only so many Rotrings you can buy, Myke. And you kind of started talking to me on the side. He's like, hey, you've got this Pilot Murex. Tell me about that pen. It looks pretty neat. And the next thing I know, Myke Dudek has a Murex, a Mew, which is another vintage Pilot, a Pilot custom black stripe. I mean, you're just like, when you go for something, you're all in, right, Myke? I mean, it's just like, Rotring went from one to a hundred. And it looks like Pilot's heading that same route. So tell me about this latest addiction of vintage Pilot.

Mike Dudek: Yeah, yeah. It's in my... I don't know if my personality... I wonder if you could consider it... See, I don't want to call it compulsive, okay? I don't.

Mike Dudek: But I think you're right. There's... I consider my pen hobbies to be... I don't know. It's almost based on like an attention span, right? Like, there's only so much time I have to, I guess you could say, invest into certain pens, right? Or certain brands. And what I find about my personality is that I'm a little bit more drawn to maybe the unique things that are... Not like the standard sort of classic styling. You know what I mean? Like some of the more... And there's nothing wrong with like classic style, you know, piston fillers like the Pelican M205 or things like that. You know, just that classic sort of style. But pens like Rotring, you know, you got the hexagons, you got the knurling. There's just a lot to it that's... There's not really anything else like it. And so, you know, yes, you're absolutely right. There was that time... And I still love Rotring. I do. I've sort of thinned the herd a little bit.

Mike Dudek: Primarily just to fund the pilot addiction now. But they still hold like a really good place for me, you know, as far as my pens and my collection. And I know that I'll get enjoyment out of them over time. But I would definitely say your Murex post from... When was that? Like a year ago, maybe? It's about two years.

Brad Dowdy: Two years ago, maybe. Yeah. I don't know.

Mike Dudek: Maybe two years ago. Yeah. Whenever you posted that, I just was blown away. You know, even at that time, I thought, oh, wow, that's something fantastic. And, you know, I kind of put it aside, I guess you could say. Because maybe at the time, I wasn't quite as deep into fountain pens. Or I wasn't, you know, quite at the position where I could maybe go out and just jump on that. Right? And so, it just sort of sat in the back of my mind. And then all of a sudden, I don't even know where, you know, like a month and a half ago. It was probably two months ago. Like, maybe it was Thomas. You know, that Thomas, he just like pokes you. And it's like, hey, you should look over here. And you're like, no, no, I shouldn't. Okay. I looked. I looked. I looked. And then it sort of spirals from there. Yeah. So, I ended up actually getting a Murex and was completely fascinated by it. Just some history, right, about the Murex or the Mu. I'm not even sure really how to pronounce it. Is it Mu? Is it Mayu? Is it M-Mu? Mu? We'll just kind of go with Mu then. Yeah, I like that. These are vintage Pilot pens that came out in the 1970s. So, you know, 40 years, 45 years, these pens. The Mu 701 actually came out in 1971. The first one did. And it has this really crazy, you know, space-age kind of integral nib. Just the entire grip section and the nib are made from one solid piece of stainless steel. Which is just, it's a work of art, is what it is. You know, it's just fantastic. And there's not really anything else that's like it. The Murex was actually a later model that came out like seven years after, six, seven years after the Mu. And it's a bigger, slightly longer pen. It's got some grip section, the rings in it, you know. But both of them share that same sort of integral nib. And I don't quite understand, like, what happened, you know, with me as far as why I got so excited about them. But it's that idea of there's nothing really else there in the market that fits sort of that box. And so when I jump in, you're absolutely right. I feel like I want to just consume as much of this in a short amount of time as I can. Which is probably really bad. But I try and get my hands on as much. And part of it, too, is so that I can see, well, what do I like? What will stick over a long period of time? What of these pens am I going to hang on to? Is it the fine nibs? Is it the medium nibs? Do I like the Mu better than the Murex? You know, so there's a few different things that go into it. But, yeah, hopefully I haven't triggered too many people to go out and start hunting vintage pilots yet.

Myke Hurley: Well, I remember when me and Brad first spoke about this, I wanted one. And now, watching you, I really want one. And I fear that I will be buying one very soon. Like how I ended up buying their broach ring lava, which I still love. I found that in a pen case the other day. I was like, I forgot about you, you beautiful thing.

Myke Hurley: Yeah, I bought that last time you were on the show. Like before you even left.

Mike Dudek: Yeah, I'm sure we could arrange some post-call shopping.

Mike Dudek: Although, you just bought the Edison, so we might have to hold off. Yeah, probably should. So, similar to the idea of the broach ring, though. You know, I mean, the price point. Some additional history on these is what makes them, I think, right now so sought after is the fact that they were never imported directly to the United States. Like during the 70s, they were only released, from my understanding, in Japan. And so, any ones that have come over to the United States or other countries have been imports. Like secondary sales, I guess you could say, at a later time. The original price point on these pens, you know, they were, I think, 5,000 yen back in 1973 or 75. Which, if you do the calculation, equates to like $23 United States, you know, dollars. Back in the 1970s, equated with inflation, it's like maybe 75 or 80 bucks. Now those same pens go for, you know, they can be upwards of 300. And in some cases, some models, 500 bucks. You know, so it's, to see that kind of demand is absolutely crazy. But the deals are there. That's the thing. Like if you really, really are interested in getting one, you have to be patient and keep your eyes out. And like almost be on the hunt at all times to sort of snatch one up when it arrives, if you're really, really interested. But they are fantastic. They're just cool. There's not really, like I said, there's not anything like it. And being pilots, even with a stainless steel, like all stainless steel nib, they write wonderfully. Like the mediums are really, really generous mediums. So, it just depends on what you like. So, well, now with the Mew.

Myke Hurley: I'm just looking on eBay now.

Mike Dudek: Yeah. Be careful. Yeah.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. So, the funny thing is they, Pilot, actually saw fit to reissue the Mew in a limited edition.

Brad Dowdy: It's about five or six years ago. I think it's called the M90. Yep. 2008. The M90. 2008. 2008. So, the Pilot M90 came out and they only made, you remember the number on that? I think it's about 9,000 of them. Yeah. So, they, I think the original retail was about 180. And I remember looking at the time, that's when I wasn't into fountain pens at all. I was like, well, that's just insane. Why would you pay that for a fountain pen? And now those are probably the most expensive out of all of this collection of the vintage style stainless steel. And it's the newest one. And those go for about 500.

Mike Dudek: They can. Yeah. The M90. I was able to acquire an M90 as well. Of course. Of course you did. I know. I know. For a decent price. And the difference, actually, they've done, like, really such a good job in sort of remaking. There are some subtle differences from the Mew. It's slightly bigger. Like, slightly bigger, slightly heavier. But it's, the build quality on it, it's phenomenal. And I've talked to a couple people. Like, I have a local pen shop I go to. And the first place I ever saw the M90 is, that's what he uses as his everyday writer. You know? So, I just walk in and he whips it out. And I'm like, oh my gosh. You know, what is this? And he's like, yeah, they sold these a few years ago. And they're discontinued. And, but, from what I understand is Pilot redid those for their 90th birthday. So, that's Pilot's 90th birthday was 2008. So, my hope is, fingers crossed, right? That in 2018, for their 100th birthday, maybe they'll, you know, come back with something new. But I'd imagine they'll probably be more expensive the second time around. But, yeah, there's, there's, actually, there's a newer, there's this whole genre of pocket pens, I guess you could say, that Pilot made back in the 1970s. There's one called the Pilot Elite. And there's another one called the Volex. Those ones didn't have the integral nib, you know, the solid stainless steel. They had kind of what's considered, like, the thumbnail nib, similar to that of, like, the Pilot Custom. Pilot redid, I'm not sure when they reissued it, but they actually have currently for sale. It's called the Pilot Elite 95S.

Mike Dudek: And what it is, is it's kind of a reissue, I think, of the original Pilot Elites from 19, around 1975. And they're, like, spot on, as far as the design and style. And they come with a 14-carat nib. And from the reviews I've seen, they are totally worth their price point. You know, they're, I think, about $130. But it's, if you kind of want that vintage Pilot throwback style, you know, it's got gold trim and stuff. So if that's not your bag, then it might not fit. But it's, they're, this to me is a good sign that Pilot's maybe transitioning back to some of their roots of those kind of 70s releases, which is cool. So hopefully they'll keep going.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah, I really like, I really like the path they're on. And that Elite has been, the new Elite, I have an old Elite, the old Pocket, small Elite. But the new Elite with the 14-carat gold nib. Yeah, the only thing holding me back from getting that is the gold. But I will probably break down eventually just because it's such a good-looking pen. I mean, it's really, really beautiful. And these old Pilot designs are great. And, you know, I'm just fascinated by these designs. And when you hold something like the Murex and you're writing with it, you're just like, man. The Murex could be, like, the one pen for me. Like, if I got rid of everything and had that, I would be happy. That says a lot about the pen. So, yeah. All right. I've got a couple more questions around these pilots. But we want to take care of another sponsor, if you'd like to, Mr. Hurley.

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Myke Hurley: Dudek, I have a question for you.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah.

Myke Hurley: When me and Brad first met you, you were starting to become involved in the pen world, right? Would that be safe to know? When we first interacted, you were starting to get involved. You were starting to be interested in this stuff.

Mike Dudek: Yeah. I'd say I was not nearly as close. I was very new to it. I maybe had a handful of pens. You know, like a Retro 51 and some Fisher Space pens and things like that. Yeah. That's probably a fair assessment.

Myke Hurley: Where on earth do you find out all this history?

Mike Dudek: Oh, well, like about all the pens. Yeah. You know, my wife, if she could, I guess, say this, like my mind is kind of this sort of steel trap. Anytime I hear or read things or interpret something, it usually sticks for a long period of time. I don't know. Like we'll be sitting down watching a TV show and I'll spout out something before the person even says anything. That's like historically accurate, you know, about whatever we're watching. And it just kind of drives, it's one of those like it drives her crazy kind of things. But yeah, my mind, I just, I read it. I'm interested in it and it sticks. Like it just stays. I don't know.

Mike Dudek: But yeah. I'm kind of like, I should go on Jeopardy. I should go on Jeopardy if there was like a pen edition or something.

Mike Dudek: Thinking that. Thinking that. Yeah.

Myke Hurley: Just because, you know, I hear like how you're talking about these pilot pens and you are a real authority on them. But and the same with the rotating stuff as well. So it's just interesting to me. Like you've just soaked in all this information.

Mike Dudek: Yeah, it is. It is interesting. Like it's where do you use that information, though? That's the problem. On this show. It's totally true. We're on the blog. Anywhere else. It's probably inappropriate conversation. Yeah.

Rotating Pens

Brad Dowdy: So now that pilot has taken a foothold in the collection and some of the rotatings have moved out, are you kind of off the rotating bandwagon for a while? Is there the one rotating you don't have that you're still on the hunt for? Or what do the standings look like in Dudek's office on the pilot versus rotating battle we're having right now?

Mike Dudek: Well, that's a good question. I don't. I'm kind of at a point where with the rotating, if something comes up, I may buy it. Like I do actually have on order right now a ballpoint, oddly enough, from. Of course you do. Of course you do. It's one. I found a good deal on one of the rotating Lambda. I don't know if you guys. I did a review on the Rollerball Lambda like probably a year or so ago. But it's this kind of weird, obscure. Yeah, like it's this all black, kind of a grippy material, but it has knurling on it too. But it's this kind of strange rotating that you can't really find a whole lot of information about. It's different than the 600s, but I have one of those on order. There is a fountain pen of that I saw on eBay, but they want like $300 for it. And I thought, hmm, probably I'll pass on that one. But the only thing really is if I find it or I stumble upon maybe something I don't have, let's say a 600 that's in a nib size that I don't have that I want to try, or if I get a really smoking deal on an 18-karat gold Rotring 600 or something, I might still jump on it, see if I like it. And then if I don't like it, then I can always get rid of it. So I look at the collecting as a little bit more fluid than maybe trying to fill a slot on a pegboard or something like that.

Brad Dowdy: But so I don't know. So you don't have a problem selling off some of the pens to afford some of the newer purchases, right?

Mike Dudek: Yeah, not really. I mean, there's some. I have to tell you, there were times when I'd go through my Rotring and I'd pull out, oh, I could part with that one. I could part with that one. And then afterwards, I would put them all back and be like, no, I can't do it. Not today. You know, it's like one of those. But I've kind of gotten to a point where I look at them kind of like the pilots, right? Like I get interested in it and then I try and gather as many of them, obviously for as efficient and for the best prices I can find them, to try them. See what fits, see what sticks. You know, and if over six months I decide, well, you know, I'm not really using that Pilot Custom in the medium nib. So maybe I could let somebody else have that one. Or I could, you know, use that to try a different one or purchase a different one. So it's, I don't know. It's like I'm in this transition. And I don't know if you're like this at all, but it's kind of looking at the pens, not necessarily as a long term. Although there are some, kind of like what Myke was talking about with the Edison. Like I think that that pen that you've bought and you've gotten custom made and there's a story to it, like that's a little bit different. You know, that's almost like a memento of this time in your life. Whereas if I'm just trying out new pens or vintage pens, there's not really a story. There's not really anything that means anything to me other than I want to just experience for the now. And then if I don't like it or I don't use it, then, you know, I can move it on. Let somebody else enjoy it. So I don't know. That's kind of been a transition that I've made over the past, oh, I don't know, probably six months in changing my mentality a little bit about the collection. It's just kind of, I don't know. I like trying to sort of move towards a phase things out that I may not use so much. But hang on to the core stuff that I know I'm going to keep and enjoy for a long period. Does that make sense?

Brad Dowdy: Totally. I mean, I think it's all part of the learning experience. Like some of, I mean, from when I started Fountain Pens, you know, going from I almost like a dislike of fountain pens to a love of fountain pens to narrowing down what I really, really like. You know, it's all part of the whole entire learning process on, you know, figuring this whole fun hobby out. And I got to say, I'm pretty happy with it. So I want to get you out of here on one more thing that I am pretty excited about. And that's your latest offering from Dudek Modern Goods. It's called The Divide. And when I saw this, I was like, I saw the, since I follow you on Instagram, and we'll have all those links in the show notes, you know, I saw kind of the lead up on how this came about. But why don't you talk about this product? Because I think it's going to be probably your most popular thing going.

Mike Dudek: Yeah. So The Divide. And you'd be surprised how hard it is to come up with like a single word name for a product. That sort of encompasses like all of my products, like Cube, Groove, Block, Divide, Display. You know, it's like, have it sort of describe maybe what it is. But The Divide, yeah. So what it is, there's a little bit of history with this one that I'll give shout out to Tim from The Writing Arsenal, who's also a host of the Erasables podcast.

Mike Dudek: He and I probably, I don't know, six, eight, or longer than that, maybe like early this year, we kind of collaborated and he was talking about getting a groove. But then he said, ah, you know, he's like, I'm kind of more of a pencil guy, apparently. And, you know, is there something we can, can we kind of customize and work on a little transit, or like change it a little bit, you know, can we modify the design? And of course, I'm like, yeah, sure. If it fits within the general scope of my products, yeah. You know, we can play around and I enjoy doing that. And so we came up with this kind of idea of pencils on one side and then pens on the other. There's this sort of divide, quote unquote, so to speak, right? Because, you know, if you've ever listened to those guys, there's definitely a pencil camp and there's a pen camp. Yeah, there's the graphite and the ink people. Not to say we're like against each other or anything, but...

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. Yes. Tim's the lone holdout. He straddles the line in the podcast. They're starting to kick him off every now and then.

Myke Hurley: I imagine like a West Side Story style throwdown.

Mike Dudek: Totally. Tim's a rebel, that guy. He's walking the line. So, yeah, so the divide is kind of a, it's slightly different, a little bit more simplified version of that, of what Tim and I designed, you know, earlier this year. And so it was a design that really stuck with me. And when Tim got it and posted about it, I had a couple people reach out and say, I want exactly that. And so it was just only a matter of time before I actually launched it and released it as its own independent product. So, yep. So the divide is there for you to have your pens, your pencils, your notebooks, and they can all live happily on your desk, you know, without incident, so to speak.

Pencils

Brad Dowdy: Well, that's awesome because I have a drawer full of pencils now. And that's a whole other topic. Like, we'll have to cover another time. But that's another rabbit hole for sure. But I like, I definitely like the divide, the literal divide there, separating the pens and the pencils and their different sized slots and the spot for notebooks in between. So I think it's great. And I'm super happy about this one. And I'm going to have to order one for myself. So it's really, really cool. So I wanted to make sure to point that out and make sure everyone saw that if they have not seen that yet. Because it really fits a need for what a lot of us use every day. So that's awesome.

Mike Dudek: And there is kind of a...

Brad Dowdy: Well, Myke.

Mike Dudek: Go ahead. In kind of celebration, so to speak, of the divide being launched and also today being on the podcast. Thank you guys for having me. I decided to do a giveaway on the Clickie Post too. So of the divide. So I actually have that running today. It's kind of a little incentive to say thank you. I guess it's kind of a fun thing to say, hey, thanks for all the support. Because the fact that really thinking like a year to a year and a half ago when I started the Clickie Post, who would have thought I'd have an entire sub brand with my name on it of products that people are enjoying and people are ordering. So I'm just very grateful that I have the opportunity to do it and to actually create those things. So I appreciate it. Well, man, that is awesome.

Brad Dowdy: Well, shoot. We appreciate you. That is really awesome. And so we'll have that link in the show notes. I've pasted it in the chat room for everyone to go and get in on the Divide giveaway over on the Clickie Post. So, man, that's fantastic. I'm excited about that.

Myke Hurley: You can find the show notes at relay.fm slash penaddict slash 125. I think it would be amiss to not mention that my co-hosts and friends here, Mr. Dudek and Mr. Dowdy, they also work together on a product of their own with NotCo and Dudek Modern Goods called the IdeaDoc. You should go and check that out. And that's in the show notes, too. I'm not letting you guys get away with that. Well, thank you, sir.

Brad Dowdy: I love that product. We sell the heck out of that thing, and that's a testament to Myke's craftsmanship. So I appreciate him working with us on that, and we try to keep him busy.

Myke Hurley: So that's it for this week's episode. If you would like to find us online, there's a few ways you can do that. I am at imike, I-M-Y-K-E. Brad is at dowdyism, D-O-W-D-Y-I-S-M, and he writes at penaddict.com. And Mr. Myke Dudek, the dude, he is at ClickyPost and writes it. Is it the ClickyPost or ClickyPost?

Mike Dudek: It is the ClickyPost, but it's clickypost.com. There you go. I own it, but I don't think I have the redirect set up yet.

Myke Hurley: Why do I have to tell you guys? Just set up the redirects.

Brad Dowdy: Dude, Myke is going to get on you, and if you don't own it, you need to get to hover and take care of business.

Myke Hurley: I'm going to do this for me. I've had this lecture. ClickyPost.com.

Myke Hurley: I own it. It's not doing anything, and you need to change that quickly. I know.

Myke Hurley: Thank you all for listening to this week's episode. We'll be back next time. Thanks again to Mr. Dudek. Thanks, guys. Cheers. Bye-bye.

Brad Dowdy: Bye. Bye.