Editing The Pen Addict 365/transcript (section)

== TV Show Pen Identification ==


'''Brad Dowdy:''' The funny thing is, so you took a screenshot for me, right? Have you looked at that screenshot?

'''Myke Hurley:''' No.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' It's black. Shoot. Well, because of copyright protection.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Really?

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Oh, man.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' There's not going to be an easy way for you to screenshot this. Oh, okay. So. You just have to go check it out yourself, I guess.

'''Myke Hurley:''' So, I think I know what pen this is. I think I'm like 90% certain. Like, we're like forgetting the fact that this is like 200 and something years into the future and guys using a fountain pen, right? Like a super traditional fountain pen. It's a Pilot Custom Heritage 912. I'm almost certain. Because the first thing I thought it was, was a black Sailor Pro Gear. Like, it's a very simple black and rhodium trim pen. But it didn't have a finial on the cap. So, it's just a flat black cap. And it's got a double ring band. Where it has a, on the cap, it's got a double cap band. So, it's got a wide cap band. And then a thin line cap band. And the clip, like I got a good shot of it just laying on the desk. It's virtually identical to the Pilot Custom Heritage 912. And I would bet money that that's what that pen is. Because it's very basic and generic looking. Like, there's not a lot of, you know, telltale signs other than the clip and the cap band. And I'm pretty certain that's it. And I'm ticked that I don't have a good picture. Because I wanted to try to get confirmation from our listeners and put this in the show notes. But I didn't even consider that. That stinks. So, we'll figure out. Yeah. So, I'll take a picture of it with my phone, right? Yeah.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' People have to go look themselves, I guess. I'm sure most of our listeners have Amazon Prime, right? Because you get Prime Video for just being a Prime subscriber. Whatever.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' So, yeah. I think someone's found it. I think we have it in the chat room. Yeah, we have one in the chat from... Okay, good.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Myke found it for us. So, I'm going to put it in the show notes to a Reddit thread where people are going through it, too.

'''Myke Hurley:''' So, their conclusion is that it's a Pro Gear? See, I didn't think it had a finial on it. Maybe they just covered it up. But I thought... That was my first inclination was that it was a Pro Gear. But then I assumed since it didn't have the anchor...

'''Brad Dowdy:''' That's a Pro Gear, man. That's a Pro Gear. I've zoomed in on it. Yeah. 100% that is. Yeah.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Oh, you can... So, it's there? Good. Yeah. Yeah, that's a Pro Gear for sure. Okay. So, my initial idea was right and then I assumed incorrectly.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' I love that they used a Pro Gear. Maybe I should watch this TV show.

'''Myke Hurley:''' I just love that 200 years from now, he's using a fountain pen on his spaceship.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Mm-hmm.

'''Myke Hurley:''' That's pretty cool.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Should we wrap it up with an interesting, slightly controversial question today?

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah, because I don't think this is controversial at all.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Maybe. Well, maybe. I don't know. I like it. I like this question.

'''Myke Hurley:''' All right, so... Yeah, I love this question. I replied saying, I love this question.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' From an anonymous individual, because of its controversial nature, goes, Is it weird for me to ignore Nakaya because they use converters rather than a more exotic filling system? There are a few Nakaya models that I really like, but despite this, I have ignored them in favor of other options with piston or vacuum filling system. I've had the opportunity to try a Nakaya with the SM Elastic nib. I thought the nib was excellent, and I love the Arushi and how the ebonite felt in the hand, but I can't bring myself to spend so much money on a pen with a converter. I don't have a problem with converters in cheaper pens, just expensive ones. For context, the Nakaya that I would buy is a custom Decapod, which costs upwards of $2,000 Australian dollars or $1,400 US dollars once shipping, import duties, and sales tax have been factored in. I considered a Decapod earlier this year, because I was extremely lucky at an opportunity to spend such a large sum on a pen, but I decided to go a different route. The number one factor against the Decapod for me was being the converter, is the filling system. The pen I ended up buying instead had a piston filler. So back to the original question. I know that personal tastes are perhaps the biggest factor in pens, especially when spending large figures, but it feels strange to me that I am turning away from an entire brand of models that I am pretty sure I would like, if not love, just because of one perhaps minor factor. Is that weird? After writing all of the above, I realized that although Nakaya is what I'm most interested in, there are many other pens that I have looked past. Because of my bias against converters and expensive pens, like Pilot Custom Marushi, 845, Sailor King of Pen, and I'm sure there are many more that I've missed. What do you think about this?

'''Myke Hurley:''' I think it's an awesome question, and I don't think it's a bias, and I just think it's a preference, and I think it's okay to ignore that, right? I mean, it has to be, because you don't want to second-guess yourself spending that kind of money on a pen when you're going to be frustrated with the filling system. No buyer's remorse.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' When you're going to that level.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah, you cannot regret anything when you're spending that kind of money. You have to be 100% committed to loving and using that pen daily.

'''Myke Hurley:''' But that is a preference that a lot of people have. Some people refuse to use converters. Some people will only buy pistons. Some people don't care. I fall on the ladder camp. I'm more of, you know, I like the exterior and the nib are the selling points before I get to the filling system. Other people, the filling system may drive the choice about buying the pen. So, I don't think this is a weird question at all, and it's absolutely preference-based. Like, I can't tell you what to do or what to buy, but it doesn't sound to me like you would be happy spending that kind of money if you're going to question, like, the filling system. Like, and with, like, something like the Decapod, like, it can be a smaller, lighter pen. Sometimes, you know, maybe that the piston filling system, people like it because it gives you a heavier pen because there's more hardware involved in creating that type of filling system as opposed to just a converter pen. So, maybe that's, like, a thing to think about. So, you know, I don't think it's a weird question at all. And some people just have their personal preferences, and that's totally okay.

'''Myke Hurley:''' So, what you could do maybe is buy, like, a coned bulk filler and a Nakaya nib and try to figure out how to mash those in together. And then you'll have your perfect pen with the huge filling system.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Ah, but then you miss out on the design. I know, I know. I was just trying to solve that. So, I would say something like the King of Pen. I would be a little bit more hesitant if that King of Pen just looked like a regular converter in there, but it has all that wild hardware, right, which makes it a little bit more exciting to look at. But, like, if I was just looking, like, a demonstrator with just a big converter in it, I'd be like, oh, did I spend all that money on that? Like, I like that they went the extra mile and put some extra goings-on inside the body.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah, the Sailor King of Pen is a very, very good example just because it's kind of outrageously priced for what it is, to be perfectly honest. And we've talked about this many, many times. And if it was more basic, they couldn't get away with that, right? If those internals were a little bit more basic, it would not work at the price points they're getting for those pens.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yep. All right, if you want to find the show notes for this week's episode, you can go to relay.fm slash penaddict slash 365. We're going to be doing horror stories next time. So excited for that. Can't wait for some more horror stories. Thanks so much to our sponsors this week, Canalea Penco, Squarespace, and Away. Thank you so much for listening. You can find Brad's work over at penaddict.com. He's penaddict on Instagram, twitch.tv slash penaddict, and dowdyism on Twitter. I am at imike, I-M-Y-K-E. We'll be back next time. Until then, say goodbye, Brad. Goodbye, Brad.

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