Editing The Pen Addict 466/transcript (section)

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'''Myke:''' We literally had a conversation. You can try and style it out if you like, but you know I wasn't around. It was WWDC last week, which was Apple's big tech conference. I was expecting a busy week. It was a very busy week. So, Brad, pinch hit for me. Is that what you call it? Pinch hit?

'''Brad:''' Yes. No, our guest pinch hit for you. I was here as scheduled and our guest pinch hit for you, which we'll talk about in a moment.

'''Myke:''' But didn't you pinch hit for me as host?

'''Brad:''' I guess so. Yeah. I guess technically you're correct. Right. So, you know, one Ricky for you. Is that how it works?

'''Myke:''' Yeah, that's one Ricky point. Thank you very much. I'll tell the other boys that you gave me one. Okay. It was a great interview with Ben Walsh. I really enjoyed it. It was... What I'll say is I not only found the interview very interesting, I also kind of just enjoyed somebody not from America in the conversation. That was like an extra point for me, you know, with Ben being in Ireland. I don't know. There was just something about that where it was like, well, this is different because it's not like every other voice that I hear. So I was... Right. I really enjoyed that discussion.

'''Brad:''' Right. I like to do that when we do the interviews. Like, we don't do interviews a ton on the show and we've talked about why millions of times. But, you know, when I get the chance, I want to do something a little bit different. And, you know, it wasn't like at the forefront of my mind, but like, it's like, oh, cool. Ben's in Ireland too. And like, I rarely talk to anyone from overseas when I'm just taking up the reviews, you know, I mean, excuse me, the interviews. So it was cool to talk with Ben, kind of get his background because like he's pretty, you know, I'm new, you know, to the scene and I've only talked to him for probably over the past year, I guess. So I'm still really just trying to learn, learn what he does. But it feels like a bit of a mad scientist. Yeah, I got that after talking to him. I realized like how just completely in the weeds he is with this. Right. That's what you get out of these interviews. Like no matter like our emails, like that doesn't come out. My digging around the Internet, that doesn't come out. You know, it's the blowing up the microwave in your bedroom. Then it's like, oh, this is what you do. And like, that's normal. That's Tuesday, you know. So, yeah, it was cool. I had a question about WWDC. If I can show my new but new business real quick. I have a question and then a follow up that you may not be expecting, but it's easy. So this may not be the place where like new Apple Pencil features get showed out. But was there anything in iOS 15 that would improve or change any Apple Pencil operations?

'''Myke:''' I don't think so. But what are you looking for that you don't have?

'''Brad:''' My question was, and it's not really that, it's more of I got to thinking about this and I was like, oh, I want to ask Myke about the Pencil because I didn't hear it come up saying that, you know, there's these other features. But I'm wondering why we don't have stationary companies that have apps that allow you to like test nib sizes. Like why don't Pilot or Pelican or Montegrappa or Sailor have an app for iOS for the iPad where you can go and like play around with their inventory and put different nibs on pens and kind of like fake write with them.

'''Myke:''' Well, there's nothing stopping them doing that. Like Apple have all of the tools available to a developer or a company.

'''Brad:''' So why don't you why don't you think they do that? Why don't you think they do that? Like Moleskine, I mean, they're not really known for their pens, but they're just they're all in on iOS. Right. So no one else is even as like technical support. And maybe they just don't there's maybe they see it as no benefit. It's really what I'm asking for is a marketing tool. Right. You know, I'm not asking for like a real, you know, like like Moleskine does, like real journals and real calendars and things like that. And what I'm asking for is these companies to make marketing tools for me to play around with. So I don't know. It was just a thought I had. It would be cool to like build your own sailor and play around with this nib and do it like that. So, yeah, I don't know. I was just wondering if like this is a thing that I don't know. I wish I wish it existed. And I don't know, maybe we'll see it one day, but I know probably only like the biggest of the big companies could put out those resources.

'''Myke:''' My feeling would be that they wouldn't do it because either A, they think they wouldn't be able to provide you the experience because you can't, you know, you can't simulate what it feels like. Right.

'''Brad:''' Yeah. Pelican. I mean, Platinum UEF is not going to work on the back, but you're not going to get the feedback, which is part of it.

'''Myke:''' But you could, as you say, like get an idea for what the nib sizes would be like. But I think the other thing is I don't know if it's if a lot of pen companies would consider it in their best interest to show how good a digital experience could be. They wouldn't want to say like, oh, hey, you can get most of this from a digital experience instead. Right.

'''Brad:''' Yeah. It was just something I was thinking about. It's like a fun toy, but really, it's probably a waste of money for these companies to do unless they're doing something like more serious. But yeah, I'm with you. It was just a thought I had. It would be fun to play with. But yeah.

'''Myke:''' Well, I guess, you know, maybe you have a new project now.

'''Brad:''' No, I have enough. I have enough projects. That's a no.

'''Myke:''' You can be an app director, you know, someone can make this app.

'''Brad:''' I mean, if Lamy, if Lamy hired me, I'm in.

'''Myke:''' Back on that train again.