The Pen Addict 508/transcript
00:00:05 Myke Hurley
From Relay FM. This is the pen addict episode 508. Today's show is brought to you by our fine friends at Harris and Pen Chalet. My name is Mike Hurley. I am joined by Brad Dowdy. Hi, Brad.
00:00:18 Brad Dowdy
Hello Mike Hurley, live from Vacation mode, how are you?
00:00:21 Myke Hurley
Yep, brads on vacation today, but he's still here because that's the kind of guy is.
Thank you, Brad, for joining us today.
Big episode so you know I couldn't have filled in for you today because I didn't go to the Atlantic.
Sure, so I wouldn't have really had much to say, would I, you know.
00:00:37 Brad Dowdy
Why weren't you there?
Everyone was asking about you.
What was I supposed to say?
00:00:42 Myke Hurley
You know?
00:00:42 Brad Dowdy
I was like, yeah he just didn't like you.
Anymore I died.
00:00:44 Myke Hurley
But there was a moment where I was like.
Why didn't I prepare for this?
But I just didn't, you know it wasn't really on my mind when the planning time would have been needed and then I just.
00:00:56
Right?
00:00:57 Myke Hurley
Didn't think about it because as well, if I remember rightly, you weren't always sure you were going to go.
00:01:01 Brad Dowdy
So that's 100% why so? And I ended up only having it was pretty much I was there for almost.
Exactly 24.
Hours, right? So wouldn't work.
00:01:09 Myke Hurley
Yeah, that you know.
00:01:09 Brad Dowdy
For me that would not have worked for anybody.
00:01:11 Myke Hurley
And in and out like, but oh, it takes me 11 hours to get there or some nonsense.
I'm good.
00:01:18 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, pass, but every everyone was was asking about you.
Where's Mike?
Are you podcasting is like no no too much going on this weekend couldn't make it work but we'll get all to all of that here.
In a minute, we'll do a full Atlanta pen show recap.
Mike, at least the parts that I can say on the show.
Recap no, no, I'll get stuff.
Yet Nips who do I?
Feel I don't have any feuds.
00:01:42 Myke Hurley
No feuds, you don't have any current ones.
00:01:47 Brad Dowdy
Some legacy legacy feeds seafood.
00:01:48 Myke Hurley
Legacy, yeah, you've got some legacy fears, you know?
00:01:52 Brad Dowdy
I got it.
That's a pretty short list, thankfully.
00:01:55 Brad Dowdy
Thankfully, all right before we get to that I want to hit some new items, some updates, and some news of things that people have been asking about over the past weeks and months.
Number one I got an update from Ben Upenn my friend Kate, who helps run Ben Upenn.
They've replied to me an email number one Kate is like the sweetest she said.
I'm sorry it took so long for me to get back to you.
And I'm like Kate, listen.
00:02:25 Myke Hurley
Come on, I'm not the most important thing.
Here you know.
00:02:28 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, like that is so inconsequential and like I didn't even like I didn't.
I purposely wrote my email.
So to not leave it open ended like I'm just sending you an email of support, right?
There was no response required.
You know I didn't set up tell me how you're doing or you know all that stuff I was like I knew not to like put any burden on them and she's like I'm sorry I didn't reply to you.
Seems like you're a little bit busy.
You know, going through, moving out of Russia so it's a big deal.
The whole been Upenn team moving to Armenia, but Kate did email me, said they've made the move safely and are setting up shop in Armenia and they have started to work with their distribution partners again.
So you know, like here in the US, it's luxury brands and you know wherever else in the world they're shipping. You know, the different distribution partners throughout the world and they will be back.
With a full online shop set up, hopefully in about a month, she said her and Alex are working on that and they will let me know once it's live again and I told them I'd be happy to share all of that information information and she made a point that.
To let me know that they are so thankful for all the support they've gotten and they were really surprised.
The outpouring of support they were very worried.
You know, being based in Russia originally, how the Community would react.
And yeah, and things like that, but she said they were just been overwhelmed with the with the positive support from not just, you know the customers, but like the retailers.
And everyone you know.
Really, you know supportive of them and they they just wanted to let me know that they appreciated that.
So wanted to give everyone an update so you know they are.
They're in tough times and I think they feel positive, at least the the.
The gist of the email that they feel positive about the move that they made and about the future of benu pen so.
That makes all of us happy.
00:04:20 Myke Hurley
And while this would be so wild to me.
00:04:22 Brad Dowdy
I I cannot I I cannot put this together in my head right like I can't fathom.
00:04:28 Myke Hurley
Just open guys like it really is, kind of incredible.
00:04:28 Brad Dowdy
What is taking place, yeah.
00:04:33 Myke Hurley
But they've done so.
Yeah, big respect to Ben Upenn.
00:04:36 Brad Dowdy
Big time big time, so we'll have an update on down the line when Kate reaches back out and they are ready for normal operations again.
So the other.
News item that I was actually asked about several times at the Atlanta Pen Show because I brought a sample of the sands in tomorrow.
00:04:56 Brad Dowdy
River paper successor.
00:04:59 Brad Dowdy
Come to the pen show for people to play around with, it looks like.
00:05:03 Brad Dowdy
Yamamoto paper our friend Taizo, from Yamamoto, has his hands on the Sands and Tomoe River paper.
00:05:11 Brad Dowdy
And is going to launch it on April 15th on their Etsy page.
00:05:16 Brad Dowdy
So Yamamoto papers Etsy page.
00:05:18 Brad Dowdy
So Yamamoto paper?
00:05:19 Brad Dowdy
As you can imagine is a say paper supplier.
00:05:22 Brad Dowdy
They make notebooks.
00:05:23 Brad Dowdy
They make the Ruby keynote notebooks.
00:05:25 Brad Dowdy
They're the ones who did the paper testing paper tasting samplers.
00:05:29 Brad Dowdy
Mike, do you recall those like from the SF Pen show?
00:05:32 Brad Dowdy
I think you met Taizo when we were there.
00:05:34 Brad Dowdy
He comes to the SF Pen show.
00:05:36 Brad Dowdy
Great, great, great great guy and.
00:05:40 Brad Dowdy
I don't know how they're going to be selling it right?
00:05:42 Brad Dowdy
Are they going to be selling loose sheets or they gonna have bound products?
00:05:45 Brad Dowdy
I mean, Yamamoto paper has capabilities.
00:05:46 Myke Hurley
Based on this image like this fitness video that I put in the show notes, I bet it's loose sheets 'cause they're writing on loose sheets I expect, especially because they're selling it on Etsy like it just doesn't fit.
00:05:58 Myke Hurley
This feels like a bit like.
00:06:00 Myke Hurley
I don't know, you know what I mean?
00:06:01 Myke Hurley
Like he's just a bit like, you know, they've also posted another image.
00:06:06 Myke Hurley
It's there isn't a translation of it.
00:06:09 Myke Hurley
It's not.
00:06:09 Myke Hurley
It's not in English here, but maybe I can work that out where it's just a bunch of sheets of paper which I'm assuming is the yellow motor paper.
00:06:15 Brad Dowdy
Right, right?
00:06:16 Myke Hurley
So I would expect people to expect that, and also here's the other thing.
00:06:21 Myke Hurley
I mean, I'm assuming at some point, as you would naturally assume to sanzone will give this a brand.
00:06:31 Brad Dowdy
I was going to talk about that I I don't know.
00:06:33 Brad Dowdy
I mean this is from Yamamoto paper saying Sands into Moya River.
00:06:37 Brad Dowdy
Is that the name?
00:06:39 Brad Dowdy
You know?
00:06:39 Myke Hurley
Oh OK, 'cause you referred to it as successor, right?
00:06:39 Brad Dowdy
You know I have great big thoughts on this.
00:06:43 Brad Dowdy
Well, that was the that was sanzen's original, let's call it this right. I agree, I agree.
00:06:44 Myke Hurley
Yeah, yeah.
00:06:47 Myke Hurley
Send a real name.
00:06:48 Myke Hurley
In my opinion, that was like a that was a a code name.
00:06:52 Myke Hurley
Yep, and so they keep in the tomorrow part.
00:06:54 Myke Hurley
OK, just as another aside, the Yamamoto the the announcement of this.
00:07:00 Myke Hurley
The handwriting of this person and this Insignia thing is absolutely astounding to me.
00:07:05 Myke Hurley
It's so good, but anyway, I am intrigued by this.
00:07:09 Myke Hurley
I think that.
00:07:10 Myke Hurley
But from a branding perspective, I think it's smart and have done what?
00:07:13 Myke Hurley
I thought should be done, they keeping the Tomoe River name, but they're putting their own brand name before.
00:07:19 Myke Hurley
I think that works perfectly, making tomorrow river a product owned by Sam's.
00:07:24 Brad Dowdy
And yes, I think that's the correct way to do it.
00:07:25 Myke Hurley
This is the way to do it.
00:07:27 Brad Dowdy
I think that's a quick way to do it.
00:07:28 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, I know I was on the on the on the warpath for like removing Tomoe River and starting it.
00:07:33 Brad Dowdy
Calling it something new, but like I understand like if you bought the branding and you're paying for the branding, I just really didn't want that successor name in there and I knew it wasn't going to be.
00:07:41
No, it's terrible.
00:07:42 Brad Dowdy
I wasn't planning on that.
00:07:43 Brad Dowdy
But if we go Sands in Tomoyo River, then I think we have like this line of demarcation that is needed in the Tomoe River paper.
00:07:51 Brad Dowdy
If we're going to continue to call tomorrow, river different things.
00:07:53 Myke Hurley
It's easy for people like you and me to know the difference.
00:07:57 Myke Hurley
You know, if you even care about the difference, right?
00:08:00 Myke Hurley
Yeah, because you know from from the episode where Jacob was on.
00:08:04 Myke Hurley
He seemed pretty happy with it, like there might not even be a need to consider them as separate products really.
00:08:10 Myke Hurley
Yeah, like it's just.
00:08:11 Myke Hurley
River Lake is basically the same kind of idea, just it's a slightly different formulation Now I guess.
00:08:18 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, so look for that April 15th on Yamamoto's Etsy store. And like I said like you're, you said, and I'm thinking the same, it's probably going to be loose sheet packs. I mean, that's what Yamamoto does best. They sell tons of loose paper.
00:08:30 Myke Hurley
All of their images.
00:08:32 Myke Hurley
It's just, uh, that other one that I was referencing.
00:08:35 Myke Hurley
That which is they've.
00:08:36 Myke Hurley
They've basically unboxed it, and like we couldn't wait to use this.
00:08:39 Myke Hurley
It's the translation of the post.
00:08:41 Myke Hurley
It's just three different loose sheet sizes.
00:08:43 Myke Hurley
Yeah, so?
00:08:44 Myke Hurley
Why do they sell on Etsy?
00:08:46 Myke Hurley
Is that because of just like taxes and stuff, you know?
00:08:49 Brad Dowdy
I'm guessing it's some ease of use to get things over into different markets outside of Japan.
00:08:54 Myke Hurley
Yeah, 'cause I know Etsy Etsy's had a bit of a resurgence with this, like duty paid stuff that we were talking about at the beginning the year, because sites like Etsy. They do the tax calculations for different countries.
00:08:55 Brad Dowdy
I I can't totally answer that, but I know a lot of people do that.
00:09:08 Myke Hurley
Right, so a lot of people are now using Etsy.
If they're shipping anywhere international, because that's the will just take care of it for them and they don't have to do the tax collection.
00:09:18 Brad Dowdy
Payment right right?
Which is something I have to.
00:09:20 Myke Hurley
Figure out like yeah.
If you remember we were talking about it at the time that like there are going to be companies that take advantage.
Of this, at C is one of them.
00:09:26 Brad Dowdy
Right?
Right, and then, let's see what also recently has gone up in their rates for the percentages they they take from Etsy, the Etsy marketplace.
00:09:39 Myke Hurley
But that doesn't surprise me.
00:09:39 Brad Dowdy
And think there is a big uproar.
About that right?
00:09:41 Myke Hurley
If they're, if they're providing these additional services, making people more reliant on them because they're going to do it.
00:09:46 Brad Dowdy
Yep, Yep, so that's a big to do right now.
00:09:48 Brad Dowdy
I don't know all the details, but I'm I'm sure we'll get some emails, but I I've read some of the Etsy goings on recently.
00:09:54 Brad Dowdy
It's it's it's.
00:09:55 Brad Dowdy
He's a hot topic recently, they've just gotten so huge, right?
00:09:58 Brad Dowdy
So there's lots of changes and lots of lots of makers on there are getting dinged.
00:10:04 Myke Hurley
Now remind me of eBay really like, yeah, because eBay was like you just sell your stuff to individual people like that's eBay.
00:10:11 Myke Hurley
And then brands came to eBay.
00:10:14 Brad Dowdy
Right?
00:10:14 Myke Hurley
Let's set up eBay stores and it feels like Etsy is going through that right now where it was like Etsy is like, hey, you make a thing so it to other people.
00:10:18 Brad Dowdy
Right, right?
00:10:21 Myke Hurley
But now it's like companies have their access floors.
You know what I mean?
00:10:25 Brad Dowdy
Right?
00:10:25 Myke Hurley
It's like a different.
They've moved into a different space, Yep.
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Brad, I know you're in vacation mode right now.
Brad was telling me before the episode he had no hands.
I don't really know what that meant.
Based like I, I can't access the discord today 'cause I have no hands available which is an intriguing thing for me because I'm not really sure.
Why he needs them but nevertheless, are you able to see it?
Or shall I go through some of my?
Favorites from the this week's deals.
00:12:14 Brad Dowdy
No, I'm able to see it in. In fact, I have three things. Two from Pen Chalet, Mike. So we're going to keep we're going to keep that thing up thing. #1 Rotring 800 mechanical pencil. This is the.
00:12:18 Myke Hurley
All right?
The rule of threes today.
00:12:27 Brad Dowdy
The leadpipe retractable version of the famous Rotring 600 and it's usually like an 80 plus dollar pencil. It's on a very very good sale right now and so I actually didn't know that they carried these so that is good to know from their number 2. The cevico AC sport fountain pens, so this is the.
00:12:47 Brad Dowdy
Aluminium sport barrel with carbon fiber inlays.
00:12:51 Brad Dowdy
It's a very neat looking cevico sport.
00:12:54 Myke Hurley
If you need to write faster.
00:12:54 Brad Dowdy
If you're into those things.
This is the pen.
For you.
00:12:59 Brad Dowdy
Yes, so this is this is.
This could be the Ferrari edition.
00:13:02 Brad Dowdy
Mike, it's just when it's the red and the carbon fiber and it goes faster than all of the other cabico sports.
00:13:02 Myke Hurley
It actually could be.
00:13:07 Myke Hurley
And you have a pen.
00:13:10 Brad Dowdy
And third number 3M. The diplomat diplomat Ilox rings one of the most popular diplomats they've released in quite some time because it changed the barrel design right? Instead of like that fluted, you know, kind of cut out barrel that the the diplomat Ilox
00:13:21
OK.
00:13:29 Brad Dowdy
Hey looks, I think the standard one is cool.
No, this is the box.
The arrow excuse me.
The diplomat Arrow is the traditional one.
00:13:36 Myke Hurley
I was going to.
00:13:36 Brad Dowdy
That we yeah, sorry.
00:13:37 Myke Hurley
Say if all they do is like.
00:13:39 Myke Hurley
Alexie locks I lock so locks, yeah locks that's.
00:13:39 Brad Dowdy
LXML he likes.
00:13:43 Myke Hurley
It that's the diplomat range right there.
00:13:47 Brad Dowdy
So this one they changed the pattern.
00:13:50 Brad Dowdy
They kept the barrel shape like the barrel silhouette and then did a ring pattern with that's black and orange and this one been super popular.
00:13:57 Brad Dowdy
So that's a great deal.
00:13:58 Brad Dowdy
So those those are my three things for Pen Chalet, Mike.
00:14:03 Myke Hurley
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00:14:13 Myke Hurley
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00:14:17 Brad Dowdy
I went to the Atlanta pen.
00:14:18 Myke Hurley
Show Mike you sure did what year is it?
00:14:22 Myke Hurley
Where am I?
00:14:22
Why this?
00:14:24 Brad Dowdy
It is 2022.
00:14:26 Brad Dowdy
Can I just say right pincher what just?
00:14:28 Myke Hurley
Say obviously a lot of terrible things have happened right over the last couple of years, but I need to talk about one.
Of the true.
Travesties of producing this show during COVID.
We would have multiple episodes a year.
That was just easy content.
You know Brad went to the pen show.
What was the pen?
Show like right true, you know.
00:14:48 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, I didn't think about, yeah.
00:14:48 Myke Hurley
We saw that and they're all like, oh, we went to the pen show is.
Our live show
Think about us over here, right?
Had to work harder to come up.
With content for you, or Brad has 'cause Brad come.
Brad's that content machine you know? Think about. That's the real. I mean, if you think about.
But that's one of the true travesties of this.
Yeah, this time period, I think.
00:15:07 Brad Dowdy
Thanks a lot.
World events way to go.
Work harder.
00:15:11 Myke Hurley
We gotta repair shoelaces over here.
Come on.
00:15:15 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, the plan for more podcasts.
00:15:17 Brad Dowdy
Gum world you.
00:15:17
Come on.
00:15:19 Brad Dowdy
Are the worst.
00:15:22 Myke Hurley
Get vaccinated you.
00:15:23 Myke Hurley
Dumb, it's like.
00:15:26 Brad Dowdy
So I made it back.
00:15:27 Brad Dowdy
It was the whole like getting there, getting ready for it.
00:15:33 Brad Dowdy
The pre arrival was just weird, right?
00:15:36 Brad Dowdy
It was like it has generally been a long time since I've done this and going to a pin show.
00:15:41 Brad Dowdy
Uhm, luckily for those who may be listening to the show for the first time, or you know, or newer listeners.
00:15:46 Brad Dowdy
I only live about an hour and a half from where the Lana PIN show is held, so I could just drive to it and I didn't have the time to stay the whole Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
00:15:59 Brad Dowdy
Of the show and set up a table and do all that. So I just plan to drive up Friday morning and leave late Saturday morning. And you know, spend like 24 hours in the environment of the Pinchot and it.
00:16:15 Brad Dowdy
I didn't miss a beat like it was really OK really cool like it felt normal.
00:16:20 Brad Dowdy
It felt good.
00:16:21 Brad Dowdy
It did feel weird like rolling up like I rolled up to the hotel.
00:16:24 Myke Hurley
Yeah, I was gonna say it.
00:16:25 Myke Hurley
How did it feel coming in, you know?
00:16:27 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, it's like I rolled up to the hotel.
I'm like, OK, I'm here.
The show is open like by the time I arrive I can just walk in and after I got my badge, which I'll I want to talk about that in a second, uhm, I walked right into the first room on the right at the Atlanta Pen Show.
If you've been there, you'll know it's the smallest room.
But I figured a a bunch of the people that I wanted to see would be there and the first person I see is on a Rainer.
Our bestie from the well appointed desk who was working for Vanna spins at this past weekend and that's all I needed to just be reabsorbed into.
OK, I'm at the pen show.
Let's do this.
It was like, you know, it's like walking through like through like the curtain into the other room is like.
Were transported OK.
I was out in the parking lot and then in like within 5 minutes I was in the Pinchot environment and I felt right at home even though I felt like kind of weird like right in the beginning and once I started talking to Anna you know I turn around and I see Jonathan Brooks and then I look over and I see.
You know Brad Owens from mythic pens and I see Mark Bacas and they're all like within arm's reach and I'm like.
OK, like this, feels like back to normal so I.
I have to give this shout out because I will forget as we continue to talk about like my show experience and stuff.
Jimmy Dolph is the best he puts on the pin show.
He's the he's the Atlanta pen show promoter.
Many people who go to pinchos around the US know Jimmy and his daughter Suzanne from going to Pinchos. And because they go to pretty much all of them and set up, you know their own.
Key is always taking care of everything we needed in the past.
You and I for the podcast Jeff and I for knock.
00:18:18 Myke Hurley
So helpful, even when he couldn't understand what we were doing.
You know what I mean?
00:18:22 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, we just trust.
00:18:22 Myke Hurley
Like like who are these guys?
00:18:23 Myke Hurley
They doing.
00:18:25 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, he trusted us too.
00:18:26 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, uhm, so I like I walk in.
00:18:29 Brad Dowdy
I registered online.
00:18:31 Brad Dowdy
But you don't pay online, you pay when you get there, and I walk in.
00:18:34 Brad Dowdy
And I talked to the table, Sherry, who I hadn't seen in a few years, is always working there and.
00:18:41 Brad Dowdy
She hands me my envelope and there's a big sticky note on it that says paid and I'm like no, I didn't pay and she's like Jimmy said and I'm like OK like.
00:18:48 Myke Hurley
Oh, gotcha.
00:18:51 Brad Dowdy
So Jimmy, like that's how my day started right with you know, good old Jimmy doing Jimmy things right and I was like, OK, like we're we're just back in Atlanta doing our thing and it was great so.
00:19:04 Brad Dowdy
You know, I I just I hung out, walked around.
00:19:07 Brad Dowdy
Willie, you know once I got there I really just wanted to go see people that I hadn't seen.
00:19:13 Brad Dowdy
Uhm, you know in a long time you know Lisa Van Ness.
00:19:16 Brad Dowdy
You know Anna everyone I mentioned before.
00:19:19 Brad Dowdy
Kelly from mountain of Ink was working there.
00:19:22 Brad Dowdy
With Van Ness, and you know I saw Nick Pang and like I'm gonna I'm not.
00:19:27 Brad Dowdy
Forget to mention people through this through this whole thing but.
00:19:33 Brad Dowdy
In a weird way, I mean this in the nicest way possible, but like nothing and no one has changed.
00:19:40 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, and I mean that in a really, really good, comfortable way, right?
00:19:44 Brad Dowdy
Everything it was just like the last time that we all hung out together.
00:19:48 Brad Dowdy
We're all there for the same nonsense, that is, uh, pencho, right?
00:19:53 Brad Dowdy
Like it's just a fun time, a fun environment, everyone happy.
00:19:57 Brad Dowdy
You know, a lot of us hadn't seen each other in a long time.
00:20:00 Brad Dowdy
I hadn't seen you know some of these people.
00:20:01 Brad Dowdy
In part I.
00:20:02 Brad Dowdy
You know, I might talk to Anna or Jonathan like all the time, but I hadn't seen them in.
00:20:06 Brad Dowdy
Person in over two years.
00:20:07 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, you know.
00:20:08 Brad Dowdy
So it.
00:20:09 Brad Dowdy
It was cool like it was.
00:20:10 Brad Dowdy
It was really cool.
00:20:11 Brad Dowdy
Cool and just in that one little room you know.
00:20:14 Brad Dowdy
Aside from them, you know I got to talk with Jim and Francisco from Heinz PIMCO, right?
00:20:20 Brad Dowdy
And Brian and Iron Feather creative, who had just gotten introduced to at the last PIN show I went to which was in Baltimore.
00:20:26 Brad Dowdy
2020 he makes really great work and like I said Nick was in there. So like just this little bitty.
00:20:31 Brad Dowdy
Room I was like in there for an hour just catching up with old friends and and family.
00:20:36 Brad Dowdy
Essentially family right.
00:20:37 Brad Dowdy
This is like one big happy extended pin family and it was.
00:20:43 Brad Dowdy
It was just cool so.
00:20:45 Brad Dowdy
You know I made it out of that room, you know, just talking, and I was like, OK, let me go see what's in the room.
00:20:52 Brad Dowdy
The second room, which is where they usually the knock table, is where you and I would hang out right and Jeff and.
00:20:58 Brad Dowdy
And everyone else hanging out there.
00:21:00 Brad Dowdy
And that's where Jimmy is, so I wanted to go thank him.
00:21:01 Brad Dowdy
So I did and he's like, hey?
00:21:03 Brad Dowdy
Uhm, I kept your table over there in case you wanted it.
00:21:07 Brad Dowdy
Like case, you needed to sit down or just like put your stuff there like he didn't sell art.
00:21:12 Brad Dowdy
Table on purpose.
00:21:13 Myke Hurley
It's a better, better prime realistically.
00:21:15 Brad Dowdy
After staying it is it is like after I gave it up I said like, uh, look, I can't do a table.
00:21:20 Brad Dowdy
I can't be there and it's like one of the best tables in the show and he kept it.
00:21:24 Brad Dowdy
He kept it for me so that he that's just how he is.
00:21:29 Brad Dowdy
So right across from our table, literally like if I was sitting it at what was.
00:21:33 Brad Dowdy
Our table is Mike Masuyama, right?
00:21:35 Brad Dowdy
Like that's, you know you're in the good spot when you're you're staring at Mike Masuyama across the house.
00:21:40 Brad Dowdy
So you know I talked to Mike and then next to him was Matthew Chin, another new newer nib worker.
00:21:46 Brad Dowdy
We'll have links in the show notes to a lot of these people that I'm talking about because we're going to talk about nib working and all the people I ran into a bunch, so you know, that's the room with like, Franklin, Christoph and Dromgoole's and Federalist pins and and all kinds of stuff.
00:22:01 Brad Dowdy
Mike, you would have died at this one table. That dromgoole's is now bringing.
00:22:05 Brad Dowdy
Huh, they bring?
00:22:06 Brad Dowdy
I should say one table it was.
00:22:10 Brad Dowdy
Was it 3 tables or two tables?
00:22:13 Brad Dowdy
At least two full tables of retro 50 ones.
00:22:16 Myke Hurley
Oh, I saw those images.
00:22:18 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, that was.
00:22:19 Myke Hurley
Oh darn.
00:22:19 Brad Dowdy
I think that was two of the three tables of breathless 50 ones.
00:22:21 Myke Hurley
Anderson pens always had a large large selection.
00:22:25 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, yeah so.
00:22:27 Brad Dowdy
But this is this was not your standard retros, right?
00:22:31 Brad Dowdy
This was new retros plus.
00:22:35 Brad Dowdy
Rare retros prototypes like 1 offs like you could see five different versions of the same pin there from the types of like was it the prototype was it.
00:22:49 Brad Dowdy
The proof model was it like wow.
00:22:51 Brad Dowdy
All these weird things.
00:22:52 Brad Dowdy
So it was wild.
00:22:53 Brad Dowdy
It was wild seeing that so that that was.
00:22:56 Brad Dowdy
Pretty cool, so I got to meet Marty who is super knowledgeable. He kind of runs that table for for the Dromgoole's and he he he knows all the all the retro 51 stuff. So that was cool cool to hang out. Marty and his wife were were running that table and.
00:23:01 Myke Hurley
OK.
00:23:11 Brad Dowdy
You know, and there were some other small makers in that room like normal, that's, uh, that room that we're normally in is a good mix of people, right?
00:23:16 Brad Dowdy
Like it's, you know it's got traditional vendors.
00:23:18 Brad Dowdy
It's got nib workers.
00:23:19 Brad Dowdy
It's got new, smaller makers.
00:23:21 Brad Dowdy
It's kind of a a good room, yeah and then come out in the hallway.
00:23:24 Brad Dowdy
There's a hallway that connects really to the biggest room in the back, which is like in the third room, but it's the biggest room in the hallway was.
00:23:31 Brad Dowdy
Which a lot of people are familiar with for Monte Verde Pennathur mayora, you know, just.
00:23:37 Brad Dowdy
Gosh, they had.
00:23:38 Brad Dowdy
I don't know six or eight tables out there, just tons and tons and tons of pins and pins and stuff.
00:23:43 Brad Dowdy
They're going to be the ones carrying delta when it comes back like we talked about the Delta resurgence here when they come back, they'll have delta.
00:23:50 Brad Dowdy
They couldn't give me a date on that.
00:23:51 Brad Dowdy
I know people have been asking about when delta going to come back, they weren't ready to commit to a date, but I'm thinking.
00:23:57 Brad Dowdy
Soonish, right?
00:24:00 Brad Dowdy
Then you roll into the big room in the back.
00:24:02 Brad Dowdy
You know, seeing people like Ryan crew sack John from Lima Rank Crazy, Allen was back there.
00:24:11 Brad Dowdy
You know your buddy crazy Allen love that guy.
00:24:12 Myke Hurley
Oh my God, what a?
00:24:14 Brad Dowdy
Love him.
00:24:15 Brad Dowdy
The Penn family was back there.
00:24:18 Brad Dowdy
Then you had your your.
00:24:19 Brad Dowdy
Bigger distributors and.
00:24:21 Brad Dowdy
You know, bigger companies like Kenro Industries, right?
00:24:24 Brad Dowdy
So our friends there that have Esterbrook and Aurora, and Monte Grappa.
00:24:30 Brad Dowdy
Then we had pilot America was there, so they had all the like.
00:24:33 Brad Dowdy
The pilot is pilot.
00:24:36 Brad Dowdy
North America is based out of Jacksonville, so they were an easy, easy ride.
00:24:39 Brad Dowdy
So they came up and, you know brought all their stuff.
00:24:43 Brad Dowdy
Then we had more nib workers back there.
00:24:45 Brad Dowdy
Kirk Speer from Penn, Roman Damian Alamar from all in the nib.
00:24:48 Brad Dowdy
They were back there working, then we had more new products like and drillium inks and tessore pen and I was getting to check out some of these pens and inks and makers that I've heard of online but not gotten to see in person.
00:25:03 Brad Dowdy
Necessarily, so it was kind of cool to see all that.
00:25:07 Brad Dowdy
Then we had like our old stalwarts there that we always see like Bertos or and Tom Bailey with all his Pelicans and and all of that stuff so.
00:25:16 Brad Dowdy
It was pretty full vendor wise like size wise like it obviously wasn't as.
00:25:23 Brad Dowdy
Table wise it wasn't as sold out as like when we were going.
00:25:27 Brad Dowdy
You know three and four.
00:25:28 Brad Dowdy
Years ago, but I'd.
00:25:29 Brad Dowdy
Say probably 90% of the tables were full.
00:25:32 Brad Dowdy
UM, we might could have jammed some more in the hallway like when the nib Smith was in would come.
00:25:39 Brad Dowdy
Dan Smith.
00:25:39 Brad Dowdy
He would be in the hallway like there was a gap there, like that wasn't filled.
00:25:43 Brad Dowdy
But I think.
00:25:45 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, it was mostly full with vendors. I think I heard there were 47 different vendors, but a lot of them had, you know, multiple tables like two to two to four tables, so it was reasonably full.
00:25:57 Brad Dowdy
Friday traffic was a little light.
00:26:01 Brad Dowdy
I think everyone was saying which is understandable.
00:26:04 Brad Dowdy
I mean Saturday is always going to be the big show at a traditional a big day at the traditional three day shows, right?
00:26:10 Brad Dowdy
Saturday is the biggest day 'cause you know local people got to get off work.
00:26:13 Brad Dowdy
People who travel got to get in and in.
00:26:16 Brad Dowdy
It business wise I think it was good though from the the vendors and everyone I talked to Friday and then you know it, it wasn't overly crowded though so it was great for me too.
00:26:26 Brad Dowdy
I made a point to get there early.
00:26:29 Brad Dowdy
Go hang out, go see as much as I could.
00:26:33 Brad Dowdy
Uhm, you know did some a lot of my shopping on Friday.
00:26:37 Brad Dowdy
OK, and it it was. Just it was cool. You know, skipping onto Saturday, just real quick. It definitely the crowd ramped up by the time I was sleeping on Saturday so I left about 11:30 Saturday which means I only had like 2 hours in the show and by the time I left it was like you're, you know, dodging and weaving just to just to move.
00:26:57 Brad Dowdy
Around so that was cool to see that it filled up pretty well on Saturday.
00:27:02 Myke Hurley
Seems like you picked the right day though for you, yeah.
00:27:04 Brad Dowdy
Totally like if I just wanted to like chill and hang and and you know talk to people that I haven't seen in a while.
00:27:10 Brad Dowdy
It I really.
00:27:12 Brad Dowdy
We didn't have an issue, right?
00:27:14 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, so it it was good.
00:27:19 Brad Dowdy
Big picture observations.
00:27:21 Brad Dowdy
There was a nib worker.
00:27:26 Brad Dowdy
And I was a little bit worried that there wouldn't be enough work for them, but I think that was not an issue whatsoever.
00:27:34 Brad Dowdy
They all had their sheets out and.
00:27:34
OK.
00:27:36 Brad Dowdy
And the sheets might had like one or two time slots open and people would see that and they would fill them up like I'd be sitting there getting nib work and someone would come talk to me and they look at a sheet and it's like 3/4 full and they go.
00:27:48 Brad Dowdy
Oh, there's a time at 3:30 boom and they fill it up and there was celebrity. It was masuyama Mark Bacas, Matthew Chen, Kirk Speer.
00:27:56 Brad Dowdy
Naman Alumar we're all there, working on nibs and I'm I'm not counting like Audrey.
00:28:02 Brad Dowdy
You know the nib Dr at Franklin Christoph.
00:28:04 Brad Dowdy
She just does all the Franklin, Christoph.
00:28:05 Brad Dowdy
Stuff Pendleton Brown was there.
00:28:07 Brad Dowdy
He does nib grinds but he did all pre ground stuff for the show like he wasn't working on pins at the show.
00:28:12 Brad Dowdy
He brought pins.
00:28:12 Brad Dowdy
That were previously.
00:28:13 Brad Dowdy
Done so the people that you could bring pins to.
00:28:17 Brad Dowdy
And get work done.
00:28:19 Brad Dowdy
There was five really really good options and I think they stayed reasonably busy the whole show.
00:28:25 Brad Dowdy
If not, I never saw any of them, not, you know, working right like it was.
00:28:30 Brad Dowdy
It was cool to see and I certainly got some nib work done from everyone who I had never.
00:28:38 Brad Dowdy
Used before, so that was Matthew Chin.
00:28:40 Brad Dowdy
Kirk Speer and Damian alamar.
00:28:42 Brad Dowdy
We can maybe talk maybe more next week about like some real specifics and things that I got done.
00:28:47 Brad Dowdy
You know, I I could sit here and and talk about like each nib and in each thing but like real quick, Matthew Chin did an auto G grind for me on a pin that I bought so we can.
00:28:57 Brad Dowdy
We can discuss that next week.
00:28:59 Brad Dowdy
We can discuss that.
00:29:00 Brad Dowdy
Or and explain to you what that is and and why I.
00:29:01 Myke Hurley
Just 'cause I don't, I don't.
00:29:02 Brad Dowdy
Got it.
00:29:02 Myke Hurley
Know what that means?
00:29:03 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, yeah, like we could spend 10 minutes on that, so I think I'll just continue going.
00:29:08 Brad Dowdy
Through going through the show 'cause I have a lot more to talk about and then like Kirk Speer, I brought my Lamy safari.
00:29:13 Brad Dowdy
I wanted to get a needlepoint grind done from him and I know he does good needle points. So I got that done and then Damian I got him to put a curse of a talent grind on my pilot custom 74 so you know, I know, Mark Baucus and I have a ton of marks nibs, and I know Mike, my see I'm and I have a ton of mikes.
00:29:29 Brad Dowdy
So I wanted to try.
00:29:31 Brad Dowdy
You know all these new to me people like I've met Damien before.
00:29:34 Brad Dowdy
I'd never met Kirk before and I'd never met Matthew before, even though I was certainly aware of all of them and all of their work.
00:29:41 Brad Dowdy
So like we were like totally spoiled, right?
00:29:44 Brad Dowdy
So I really wanted to sit with each of.
00:29:50 Brad Dowdy
You know the nib workers that I had not sat with before and kind of get an idea of what they do and they all do great work.
00:29:58 Brad Dowdy
Obviously it's a really good good experience and I I really like that.
00:30:05 Brad Dowdy
There was a.
00:30:07 Brad Dowdy
A really good vendor balance OK, but between like OK, big retailers. You know our big retailers we know like vanness dromgoole's friend, list, crazy federalist pens, crazy Allen. We had a lot of makers there. You know you had Carolina Pen company and mythic pins and iron feather creative.
00:30:27 Brad Dowdy
And on and on and on.
00:30:28 Brad Dowdy
11 they had your individual vendors even either like your vintage, you know your vintage vendors, or you know just people selling their collections.
00:30:41 Brad Dowdy
I would have liked to seen a couple more distributors because that's from that's more of a me thing 'cause I get to like to.
00:30:48 Brad Dowdy
I like to talk to the people who are bringing in the pins to sell.
00:30:51 Myke Hurley
That feels like a big Penco deal, right?
00:30:55 Myke Hurley
I don't know.
00:30:55 Myke Hurley
It lands has always gotten bigger over time, but it feels like the distributors are very much focused around like San Francisco and DC.
00:31:03 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, so we got kenro and we got Yafa.
00:31:07 Brad Dowdy
And we got pilot.
00:31:08 Brad Dowdy
I would have liked to seen luxury brands you know which is Platinum Waldman?
00:31:14 Brad Dowdy
Benu colorverse right?
00:31:17 Brad Dowdy
They do a bunch and then Coles of London, which is Visconti St DuPont.
00:31:21 Brad Dowdy
Like I I mean I I get that they like not all these people go to all these shows like I get it in Atlanta.
00:31:26 Brad Dowdy
You know Atlanta is definitely on the smaller side.
00:31:28 Brad Dowdy
So maybe it's just not a fit for them, but I wouldn't mind.
00:31:30 Brad Dowdy
It's at least seeing a few more of the distributor types there, but like I totally get it, I we had access to like literally everything.
00:31:37 Brad Dowdy
If there's anything I wanted to see.
00:31:39 Brad Dowdy
It was available for me to see, right?
00:31:42 Brad Dowdy
Which is kind of the sign of a good show.
00:31:45 Brad Dowdy
You know, I got to see makers that I hadn't seen before, right?
00:31:49 Brad Dowdy
I got to see distributors that I have long term relationships with right and everything in between, right so?
00:31:58 Brad Dowdy
It was, it was pretty cool.
00:32:00 Brad Dowdy
The other thing that Atlanta is never done whereas show like Baltimore does and San Francisco does is there's really no local non stationary presence.
00:32:12 Brad Dowdy
It's there like there's no chocolate maker, right?
00:32:15 Brad Dowdy
There's no coffee representation.
00:32:18 Brad Dowdy
There's no jewelry representation.
00:32:20 Brad Dowdy
I kind of like to see that mix.
00:32:22 Brad Dowdy
And match of local.
00:32:23 Brad Dowdy
Like vendors being involved in the community, I think that's just additive to the pencho experience.
00:32:30 Brad Dowdy
Atlanta is also not a big show.
00:32:32 Brad Dowdy
I I also kind of get that right.
00:32:33 Brad Dowdy
It's not quite on the same on on par with some of the other shows, so I don't know.
00:32:37 Brad Dowdy
That's just a personal thing, you know.
00:32:38 Myke Hurley
Now you know that we spoke about.
00:32:38 Brad Dowdy
I like to have those one off things.
00:32:40 Myke Hurley
This a lot over the years.
00:32:43 Myke Hurley
The presence of the pen addict and surround.
00:32:47 Myke Hurley
Media Properties has made Atlanta more of a destination show than it otherwise would have been, but it's still just.
00:32:54 Myke Hurley
There's only so much physical sites that show can grow into and.
00:33:00 Myke Hurley
San Francisco and DC, which like I think of the two like big ones that I've been to even Toronto.
00:33:07 Myke Hurley
Just so much more physical space right to put to put vendors into so right.
00:33:14 Brad Dowdy
Right, right?
00:33:15 Brad Dowdy
So it's it's not a complaint.
00:33:16 Brad Dowdy
It's just like uh, oh, in a perfect world.
00:33:18 Brad Dowdy
This like I thought it was really really good like it had everything that I wanted the best thing one of the coolest things about Atlanta and well, this is actually.
00:33:26 Brad Dowdy
What we'll we'll.
00:33:27 Brad Dowdy
Get to at the end, but I'll mention it now is because you kind of alluded to it.
00:33:31 Brad Dowdy
People travel to this show like the the not, not the necessarily the vendors.
00:33:36 Brad Dowdy
And the people selling at the show.
00:33:38 Brad Dowdy
But the customers come, they really come to this show because it's a fun, easy show.
00:33:42 Brad Dowdy
You get to meet a lot of people.
00:33:44 Brad Dowdy
There's some good hang out stuff you know to do at this show, and it's really kind of a kind of little self contained community.
00:33:50 Brad Dowdy
At the show, you know a lot of people hanging out, so we'll we'll wrap.
00:33:53 Brad Dowdy
That at the end that was kind of.
00:33:56 Brad Dowdy
The big picture.
00:33:57 Brad Dowdy
Observations it felt really good, good balance, good crowds.
00:34:02 Brad Dowdy
I was not packed to the gills.
00:34:04 Brad Dowdy
Obviously, like at the peak times when we've been there, right, but understandably so so.
00:34:11 Brad Dowdy
You OK if I go into a kind of a I did like, uh, things to watch little note in my yeah notebook of kind of the things like my big.
00:34:20 Brad Dowdy
That was my big overview and now I've got some specifics of that.
00:34:22 Myke Hurley
OK.
00:34:23 Brad Dowdy
Some of my really interesting takeaways.
00:34:26 Brad Dowdy
Hines PIMCO, has turned it up to 11.
00:34:30 Brad Dowdy
Whatever they're doing, whatever gyms doing whatever Francisco's doing. They have gone like really all in right from seeing him for the first time at the Arkansas.
00:34:39 Myke Hurley
So how do you say it, Heinz?
00:34:40 Brad Dowdy
Then shifts I don't know.
00:34:42 Brad Dowdy
I don't.
00:34:43 Brad Dowdy
It's probably hands.
00:34:44 Myke Hurley
'cause it's not spelt like the beans.
00:34:45 Brad Dowdy
I'm terrible.
00:34:47 Brad Dowdy
No, it's chinzi yeah yeah.
00:34:50 Brad Dowdy
Sorry, Jim or Francisco will yell at me immediately after this and then we'll correct it next week.
00:34:55 Myke Hurley
'cause I would have said hints, but I don't know if I'm right either, you know?
00:34:59 Brad Dowdy
What I mean right, right and I've like interviewed Jim.
00:35:03 Brad Dowdy
And whose last name is HINZ. And so I know at some point I've known how to say it, but I've completely blanked on if.
00:35:10 Brad Dowdy
I'm saying it right anyway.
00:35:12
Right?
00:35:13 Brad Dowdy
When I first met them in Arkansas, probably like 2018, you know just getting started making pins small table, you know?
00:35:21 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, acrylic turning acrylic brought blanks and pens.
00:35:24 Brad Dowdy
I like what they did, what they're doing now is really leaning into like some of the storytelling aspects that I like.
00:35:30 Brad Dowdy
Hey, we're going to make this series of pens based on this theme, and here's why we're doing it and we think this is cool and we think this is fun.
00:35:36 Brad Dowdy
And here's the interesting, interesting materials with this.
00:35:39 Brad Dowdy
And here's the interesting hardware with this.
00:35:41 Brad Dowdy
And it's just on and on and on.
00:35:42 Brad Dowdy
It's not like, hey, here's this one series.
00:35:44 Brad Dowdy
It's like 5 different series at one time and I was just like looking at all this stuff going.
00:35:48 Brad Dowdy
Wow like it's I'm I'm really impressed and Jim I know really is kind of like the Craftsman contact for a lot of the other makers for like the technical aspects of like making things.
00:36:02 Brad Dowdy
Right and he does some really cool stuff and makes a lot of a lot of fun stuff, so I'm I'm definitely interested in in what they're doing.
00:36:10 Brad Dowdy
Stacy Robinson, who is a longtime Atlanta pen show vendor and local to Atlanta, does pins by design P&Z by design.
00:36:22 Brad Dowdy
Key this time.
00:36:22 Brad Dowdy
At this show, I don't know if he's had these in years past.
00:36:25 Brad Dowdy
I guess it's been three years since I've seen him and I've never bought anything from him before, but he had some acrylic pins that he made with these traditional materials.
00:36:34 Brad Dowdy
The one I bought was a Conway Stewart Material Pen and he had some ebonite pins, the
00:36:40 Brad Dowdy
Fit and finish of these pins was extraordinarily impressive.
00:36:45 Brad Dowdy
I think I will be talking a lot about his pins, and I know a lot of other people are Joe from the gentleman station or picks him up.
00:36:51 Brad Dowdy
I know a lot of people picked him up because they were just impressed with the craft craftsmanship and the price point was really really excellent.
00:36:59 Brad Dowdy
So I think.
00:37:00 Brad Dowdy
He's a I think he's going to and enjoy a little pinch O bump here because he had some really cool stuff to sell.
00:37:02
Right?
00:37:08 Brad Dowdy
The event of fantasy inks, the Shimmer inks.
00:37:10 Brad Dowdy
Bennes pens had them and I could hardly get my own bottles to test.
00:37:16 Brad Dowdy
You know vent is doing a really, really good job with their inks.
00:37:18 Brad Dowdy
I talk about them very positively.
00:37:21 Brad Dowdy
And they're kind of stepping on the gas a little bit, and these kind of new series of Shimmer inks are doing really well.
00:37:27 Brad Dowdy
Kind of everyone that was looking for inks was kind of going to Van Ness and finding those inks and getting those.
00:37:35 Brad Dowdy
Franklin, Christoph.
00:37:36 Brad Dowdy
I've bought my first Franklin Christoph pin and I don't know how many years.
00:37:39 Brad Dowdy
Probably since Toronto when I bought the Wonder Pen store exclusive.
00:37:43 Brad Dowdy
Aside from any pins that I've made for the pen addict, they have a color called Olivei which is this translucent olive green and it is just completely nuts color.
00:37:55 Brad Dowdy
Come in, it's a it's hard to explain.
00:37:58 Brad Dowdy
You just have to look at pictures of that.
00:37:59 Brad Dowdy
So that was kind of the popular Franklin Christoph pin.
00:38:02 Brad Dowdy
Like if you were going to Franklin, push off a lot of people were were coming away with that pin so I got to see a lot of those.
00:38:08 Brad Dowdy
The new pilot Irozuku links are here my.
00:38:12 Brad Dowdy
So they will be available on April 15th, so three new colors.
00:38:17 Brad Dowdy
Pirated pilot of Russia zoinks.
00:38:20 Brad Dowdy
Uh will be available.
00:38:22 Brad Dowdy
I got to meet.
00:38:23 Brad Dowdy
So this is the funniest funniest stuff thing.
00:38:27 Brad Dowdy
So it's like 11.
00:38:28 Brad Dowdy
15 Saturday morning I'm making the rounds like I.
00:38:32 Brad Dowdy
I'm starting to make the rounds early because I want to make sure to talk to everybody before I go.
00:38:37 Brad Dowdy
And knowing that, I have like a heart out at 12 like I have to.
00:38:40 Brad Dowdy
Be on the.
00:38:41 Brad Dowdy
Road at 12.
00:38:42 Brad Dowdy
So it's like 11:15 and I'm kind of ramp. Winding it down and I'm walking out of this one room.
00:38:49 Brad Dowdy
And here comes this guy in a suit who I hadn't seen.
00:38:52 Brad Dowdy
All show walks up to me.
00:38:54 Brad Dowdy
Brad hey, this is Frank from narwhal.
00:38:57 Brad Dowdy
Like how are you?
00:38:58 Brad Dowdy
I'm like Oh my God Frank like I've never talked to Frank online but like I've never met him in person.
00:39:04 Brad Dowdy
And like he goes to shows and he's had tables at some of the other shows, but he didn't have a table here, so he had just like flown in and it just like walked into the show like basically right when I was walking out.
00:39:15 Brad Dowdy
So I got to talk to Frank for a minute and.
00:39:17 Brad Dowdy
I'm going to.
00:39:17 Brad Dowdy
Try to talk to him more down the line.
00:39:20 Brad Dowdy
I said, you know, I told him. Obviously, you know, I'd love to spend 1/2 an hour with you, but.
00:39:24 Brad Dowdy
Like I'm 5 minutes away from having to leave and he's like, Oh yeah, no, totally no.
00:39:28 Brad Dowdy
Problem and so I got his card, so we're going to talk soon, but I thought that was that was pretty cool to like the see Frank like right at the last minute as I was walking out.
00:39:38 Brad Dowdy
So that was that was pretty funny.
00:39:39 Brad Dowdy
So that was kind of like my my big picture and my my little picture take away just from like the stuff and the things that I enjoyed seeing.
00:39:48 Brad Dowdy
There so uhm, yeah it was a very good very successful show for me, Justin.
00:39:56 Brad Dowdy
Getting back in that environment, seeing.
00:39:59 Brad Dowdy
All the people that I wanted to see getting to check out some new products and dumb, you know getting to see like all these new grinders that I haven't worked with before and just all of that stuff was like super super fun to me.
00:40:11 Brad Dowdy
And it was.
00:40:14 Brad Dowdy
A great experience like and we haven't even talked about like the best stuff, which is like the after hours stuff.
00:40:20 Brad Dowdy
Which we'll get to here in a minute.
00:40:22 Brad Dowdy
But just like the show itself was really good Atlanta pen show Joe Tom, like it was, it was great.
00:40:31 Brad Dowdy
I I thoroughly enjoyed it.
00:40:33 Myke Hurley
Alright, I wanna dig into a few more bits of this.
00:40:36 Myke Hurley
We've got 'cause I have a few more things.
00:40:38 Myke Hurley
That intrigued about all right?
00:40:39 Myke Hurley
But let's take our second break and do that.
00:40:41 Myke Hurley
And let's thank Harris for their support of this weeks episode.
00:40:44 Myke Hurley
Having a daily routine can really help set up your day for success.
00:40:48 Myke Hurley
Brad, how does Harris fit into your morning routine?
00:40:51 Brad Dowdy
Well, let me tell you how it fit into my Atlanta pen show.
00:40:53 Brad Dowdy
Routine health at Mike.
00:40:53 Myke Hurley
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00:40:55 Brad Dowdy
The hairy Dopp kit is that even on sale that is my two go to travel kit and I rarely get to use it 'cause I'm rarely on the road.
00:41:03 Brad Dowdy
Staying away from home, but I packed that up in that travel kit is my hairy razor.
00:41:08 Brad Dowdy
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00:41:13 Brad Dowdy
Pick up the razor blindly out of the Dopp kit.
00:41:16 Brad Dowdy
My hairy shave gel.
00:41:17 Brad Dowdy
All of that travels with me.
00:41:19 Brad Dowdy
Went with me to the Atlanta Pen show, kept me looking sharp the entire event.
00:41:23 Brad Dowdy
Mike, thank you Harris.
00:41:25 Myke Hurley
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00:42:34 Myke Hurley
We're gonna play a game now, Brad.
00:42:37 Brad Dowdy
OK, I like games.
00:42:38 Myke Hurley
Right, we're going to call this dip grab by.
00:42:40 Myke Hurley
OK so?
00:42:42 Myke Hurley
You already spoiled one.
00:42:43 Myke Hurley
You bought 'cause I saw this.
00:42:45 Myke Hurley
I saw, you know I've been following.
00:42:46 Myke Hurley
I was feverishly following your Instagram.
00:42:49 Brad Dowdy
Ah, that's a whole conversation.
00:42:49 Myke Hurley
Over the weekend.
00:42:50 Brad Dowdy
We can have like it is so hard to like.
00:42:52 Brad Dowdy
Take pictures and post pictures when you're just having a fun time talking with people, right?
00:42:57 Brad Dowdy
So I might have to do like a photo dump on Instagram here sometime this week.
00:43:02
And you.
00:43:02 Myke Hurley
Posted a couple of pictures that would.
00:43:04 Myke Hurley
Just seeming to indicate that there have been a bit of a.
00:43:07 Myke Hurley
Cool going on.
00:43:10 Myke Hurley
Alright, so we know you got a Franklin Christoph.
00:43:12 Myke Hurley
We know that much and I'm looking at.
00:43:14 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, about the olivei.
00:43:15 Myke Hurley
Yeah, they that was the one right?
00:43:18 Myke Hurley
The one that the green one.
00:43:18 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, model 46, so they had it in different shapes about the Model 46 which I don't have a model 46.
00:43:24 Brad Dowdy
It's a very kind of straight barrel. Little taper in the cap, just a real super. I like the Super clean designs of something like the 46, so yes about that.
00:43:35 Myke Hurley
So I look at your pictures and I see it.
00:43:37 Myke Hurley
Goes some clothes.
00:43:38 Myke Hurley
Right, OK, OK, so I see an esterbrook box.
00:43:43 Myke Hurley
Shannon Estabrook, Brad.
00:43:45 Brad Dowdy
So I think we need to clarify this game, Mike.
00:43:49 Brad Dowdy
So I bought a lot of stuff.
00:43:51 Brad Dowdy
Did I buy it for me or did I buy it for, you know, ulterior motives.
00:43:56 Myke Hurley
So for you, at some point you know.
00:43:59 Brad Dowdy
So it's for me to use for things so Esterbrook there were two esterbrook pens that were purchased and an esterbrook nib that was purchased, so I went.
00:44:10 Myke Hurley
Oh, OK.
00:44:12 Brad Dowdy
I went for the needle point, right, the needle point was the product that I was going for, right?
00:44:18 Brad Dowdy
That was on my list.
00:44:19 Brad Dowdy
Was nib work from.
00:44:23 Brad Dowdy
For my Lamy safari in pilot custom 74 and a loose esterbrook needlepoint nib acquired that nib so the question was was I going to acquire a pen to put this new needlepoint nib in and I went into it thinking no like I'm happy with my estabrooks
00:44:43 Brad Dowdy
I have and I can just slot it into one of those, right?
00:44:45 Brad Dowdy
That's what I do.
00:44:46 Brad Dowdy
That's exactly why I got the Lamy safari nib because I use safari a lot.
00:44:50 Brad Dowdy
I'll have my one nib that I moved from PEN dependents.
00:44:53 Brad Dowdy
I use them so did I need another esterbrook pen?
00:44:55 Brad Dowdy
No, but I heard rumor had it Mike that.
00:45:00 Brad Dowdy
But Kenro is now bringing Esterbrook and other brand prototypes to the show of either a test run of a material to see if it's going to be.
00:45:16 Brad Dowdy
A future product.
00:45:17 Myke Hurley
That's the Franklin Christoph model, right?
00:45:19 Myke Hurley
Like that's what they did and found that great success with.
00:45:19 Brad Dowdy
Yeah yeah, but.
00:45:22 Myke Hurley
Willingness I think.
00:45:23 Brad Dowdy
Yep, but at a much smaller scale like a single folio of prototype.
00:45:28 Brad Dowdy
Pins, and there was one on there that was.
00:45:31 Myke Hurley
I imagine like he's gonna go.
00:45:32 Brad Dowdy
Scroll up and.
00:45:34 Myke Hurley
You gotta find you gotta find carrying me like you got like.
00:45:37 Myke Hurley
About this stuff.
00:45:38 Myke Hurley
You know, imagine it's a situation like that.
00:45:38 Brad Dowdy
Yep, Yep you got the goods you got the.
00:45:40 Brad Dowdy
Goods I know.
00:45:41 Brad Dowdy
So Kerry wasn't there this weekend.
00:45:43 Brad Dowdy
I'm going to get him get on him for that.
00:45:43 Myke Hurley
Oh, OK.
00:45:44 Brad Dowdy
I think he was a little busy according.
00:45:46 Brad Dowdy
To his Instagram so.
00:45:47 Brad Dowdy
I'll, I'll give him a, give him a yell later, but I I know Neil and Denean who have worked there forever as well so.
00:45:55 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, so I saw this.
00:45:57 Brad Dowdy
Esterbrook prototype I have not taken a picture of it yet, Mike.
00:46:01 Brad Dowdy
It's A Knockout.
00:46:02 Myke Hurley
OK.
00:46:02 Brad Dowdy
Like it is a really really me pin.
00:46:05 Brad Dowdy
It's pointless for me to describe it because there's it doesn't exist, right?
00:46:09 Brad Dowdy
It's like a one of one type of prototype.
00:46:11 Brad Dowdy
Or maybe it's coming later on who knows.
00:46:12 Brad Dowdy
I think these are things that aren't going to exist, but it was like a test so I will take some pictures.
00:46:18 Brad Dowdy
A lot of this stuff I turned around.
00:46:21 Brad Dowdy
From the Atlanta Pen show.
00:46:22 Brad Dowdy
Had my daughter prom events the night after I got home and then left the next morning for vacation.
00:46:28 Brad Dowdy
So a lot of this stuff didn't even come with me on on my trip.
00:46:31 Brad Dowdy
It's sitting at home waiting for me to to ink up.
00:46:34 Brad Dowdy
This one did though, so I'll have to see if I can take a good picture of it.
00:46:37 Brad Dowdy
But it's basically a.
00:46:39 Brad Dowdy
It's a.
00:46:39 Brad Dowdy
It's another diamond cast material.
00:46:41 Brad Dowdy
You know, with like the sparkles in it, but it's very.
00:46:43 Brad Dowdy
It's very lightly dusted and it's a blue and white swirl that came out.
00:46:49 Brad Dowdy
Kind of amazing.
00:46:49 Brad Dowdy
Think of it like an ocean wave type of crashing situation with a little bit of sparkle in it.
00:46:53 Brad Dowdy
And I put the needlepoint in there.
00:46:55 Brad Dowdy
The second one I got is the Esterbrook candy is a new mainline esterbrook that just launched the day of the PEN show.
00:47:03 Brad Dowdy
So I bought that one for a future giveaway.
00:47:05 Brad Dowdy
It's a kind of a Unicorn, Y pink and purple and sparkly and gold and stuff like that.
00:47:10 Brad Dowdy
So it's called candy so you can find that one online.
00:47:13 Brad Dowdy
So I bought.
00:47:15 Brad Dowdy
Two Esterbrook scenester Brooklyn.
00:47:17 Myke Hurley
OK.
00:47:19 Myke Hurley
Does a couple of Carolina pen Co.
00:47:21 Myke Hurley
Things with.
00:47:22 Brad Dowdy
God, I really ruined it with that picture.
00:47:24 Myke Hurley
Yeah, 'cause I can just see it all.
00:47:26 Myke Hurley
I mean what do you want from me, you know?
00:47:29 Brad Dowdy
So I bought 2 pins from Jonathan, one for me, one for other uses.
00:47:38 Brad Dowdy
The one for other usage.
00:47:40 Brad Dowdy
I bought a mat.
00:47:42 Brad Dowdy
One of his materials and a matte finish, which I don't have, and I think people will enjoy those matte finishes, so I thought it might be a good giveaway pin.
00:47:53 Brad Dowdy
An undetermined date down the line.
00:47:56 Brad Dowdy
Uhm, I bought for me a very I asked Jonathan.
00:48:00 Brad Dowdy
I was like what do I need to see right?
00:48:03 Brad Dowdy
When you're familiar with someone work and they're extremely creative, like Jonathan, he's like he's like the the the Michelin 3 star chef, right?
00:48:11 Brad Dowdy
You're just just make me the thing.
00:48:13 Myke Hurley
Oh my God, that's so perfect.
00:48:14 Brad Dowdy
Right?
00:48:15 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, it's just I trust you.
00:48:16 Myke Hurley
Yeah, he's the like he is the Michelin chef of pen making.
00:48:21 Myke Hurley
I love it.
00:48:21 Brad Dowdy
Right so.
00:48:22 Brad Dowdy
What do I need to see?
00:48:24 Brad Dowdy
It's just like you don't order.
00:48:26 Brad Dowdy
You just say cook me the thing and that's what.
00:48:29 Brad Dowdy
We're going to guess.
00:48:29 Myke Hurley
Go for a tasting menu.
00:48:31 Myke Hurley
You know you just trust the chef.
00:48:31 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, yeah.
00:48:32 Myke Hurley
However, the chef intends you say you know.
00:48:35 Brad Dowdy
So, so he knows me and I know him.
00:48:39 Brad Dowdy
And he picked up this pen and put it in my hand.
00:48:43 Brad Dowdy
And that was it, like it was absolutely correct for what I wanted.
00:48:46 Brad Dowdy
And it was, you know, correct for him to to show that to me what it is is one of those extremely dark material pens that when you hit it with light, shows everything.
00:48:57 Brad Dowdy
Thing right so from 5 feet away it looks like a black pin with maybe like a hint of color, but up close it is like a kaleidoscope so.
00:49:07 Myke Hurley
I'm fine.
00:49:08 Brad Dowdy
It's one of those pins I will have to take, like special photos, especially lit photos to show it off.
00:49:14 Brad Dowdy
It was he didn't call it an accident, but it was basically like a test.
00:49:19 Brad Dowdy
Again, this is where I where I get in trouble.
00:49:21 Brad Dowdy
At pin shows you can see the things that I've bought so far these kind of 1 off type of productions right because?
00:49:26 Myke Hurley
Yeah, 'cause you gotta you gotta hide his Heinz Pen as well, which I had assumed you would.
00:49:31 Myke Hurley
And then there's something in black just like a black sleeve.
00:49:35 Brad Dowdy
Well, that's a mythic.
00:49:36 Brad Dowdy
Pins in the black sleeve, but there is a Heinz pin as well, so I I haven't.
00:49:43 Brad Dowdy
We've I apparently have bought everything so far so.
00:49:46 Myke Hurley
Well, you see, now here's, but we've got some.
00:49:46 Brad Dowdy
But yeah, but.
00:49:48 Myke Hurley
We've got some mystery, right?
00:49:49 Myke Hurley
There's a, there's a drumgole bag, a big red drum bag, yeah?
00:49:53 Brad Dowdy
Oh yeah.
00:49:56 Brad Dowdy
There's a lot of stuff in there.
00:49:56 Myke Hurley
Did you buy?
00:50:00 Myke Hurley
Some version of Sailor King of Pen from Dragon.
00:50:07 Myke Hurley
No, I thought it was going to.
00:50:09 Myke Hurley
Be a yeah So what?
00:50:11 Brad Dowdy
But you were close, you're close.
00:50:13 Brad Dowdy
You should keep keep.
00:50:13 Myke Hurley
Am I?
00:50:14 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, you should continue somehow related to your your question.
00:50:18 Myke Hurley
So this is Sailor.
00:50:22 Myke Hurley
Did you get the gum?
00:50:24 Myke Hurley
To 2022 limited edition, the soda pop one.
00:50:28 Brad Dowdy
No, but it was there.
00:50:28 Myke Hurley
OK.
00:50:29 Brad Dowdy
It's very nice.
00:50:30 Myke Hurley
OK.
00:50:31 Brad Dowdy
So I went a slightly older and I bought the habanero.
00:50:34 Myke Hurley
OK.
00:50:38 Myke Hurley
Oh interesting, you know with the little chili pepper then.
00:50:38 Brad Dowdy
Which is solid orange cap orange translucent barrel.
00:50:44 Brad Dowdy
The reason why I bought it and you know, didn't buy it online.
00:50:48 Brad Dowdy
Or or didn't necessarily like jump through hoops to get it.
00:50:52 Brad Dowdy
I'm sure they're still available in some places, as this one had an extra fine nib on it and they don't.
00:50:59 Brad Dowdy
That's usually one of the lower quantity items, and that's obviously probably why they still have it in stock, because sailors extra fines are really really extra fine.
00:51:08 Brad Dowdy
And if it was sitting there, habanero with a medium nib, I wouldn't have bought it right like I just don't need that, but I don't have a lot.
00:51:12 Myke Hurley
OK.
00:51:15 Brad Dowdy
I maybe have like one other sailor extra fine nib, and of course I love that pen, but I just didn't need that pen, but that extra fine nib and the.
00:51:24 Brad Dowdy
You know issue of standing right there, staring at it instead of like through a computer screen and having to put in your credit card information.
00:51:31 Brad Dowdy
And you know already buying other things there.
00:51:34 Brad Dowdy
The extra fine is what set it over the top to me.
00:51:38 Brad Dowdy
So that was kind of the one.
00:51:42 Brad Dowdy
Standard issue pin.
00:51:43 Brad Dowdy
Right regularly available at Retail Pen Reno until it wasn't right.
00:51:47 Brad Dowdy
It was limited, but it was very accessible.
00:51:50 Brad Dowdy
Where are these other pins that I've bought or like?
00:51:53 Brad Dowdy
You know, like the esterbrook and.
00:51:55 Brad Dowdy
Brooks, his pen like he'd like Brooks did, did me like he did you.
00:51:59 Brad Dowdy
He's like I'm not making any more of this.
00:52:01 Brad Dowdy
I said, well, what's it called?
00:52:02 Brad Dowdy
Like if I write about it, he's like I don't.
00:52:04 Brad Dowdy
It doesn't have a name.
00:52:05 Brad Dowdy
You can name it great great.
00:52:05 Myke Hurley
Yes, great, so there's a problem with that.
00:52:08
But what I would?
00:52:09 Myke Hurley
This is a consistent yes, similar to what he said to me, but then he I think he was stuck making sky at night forever.
00:52:15 Brad Dowdy
That's what I told him.
00:52:16 Brad Dowdy
He said, well, I he's, that's exactly what I said 'cause I said, if I do that, it's going to be a problem for you.
00:52:23 Brad Dowdy
And he's like no, it won't because.
00:52:25 Brad Dowdy
I don't have the recipe for this one anymore.
00:52:28 Brad Dowdy
So he can't recreate it exactly.
00:52:32 Myke Hurley
How is that?
00:52:33 Brad Dowdy
The case I don't know, I don't.
00:52:35 Myke Hurley
Know I mean, who can argue with the Michelin star right you?
00:52:35 Brad Dowdy
That's what it is.
00:52:38 Brad Dowdy
Know what I mean, yeah, but that's what I said.
00:52:40 Brad Dowdy
I said well, no I'm not going to name it because then you're going to have to make it so you do it and he's like no, that's not going to be made because I can't.
00:52:50 Brad Dowdy
I'm like great.
00:52:51 Brad Dowdy
'cause I'm totally taking pictures and sharing this pen right?
00:52:55 Brad Dowdy
And I have a name in mind, but I'm not going to share it until I come.
00:52:59 Brad Dowdy
Until I post pictures of so.
00:53:00 Myke Hurley
It well, but even if you don't name it, it will just be referred to us.
00:53:02 Myke Hurley
You know the.
00:53:03 Myke Hurley
One that Brad has that you didn't give a name to or not.
00:53:04 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna name it and he's just gonna have.
00:53:06 Brad Dowdy
To deal with it, and I tell him.
00:53:07 Myke Hurley
Yes, that's that's his problem, you know, Yep.
00:53:10 Brad Dowdy
That's his problem at this point, so.
00:53:11 Myke Hurley
He could have named it like a really bad name.
00:53:13 Myke Hurley
They give him like a really bad name and then they won't want it, you know?
00:53:14 Brad Dowdy
Yeah yeah, yeah.
00:53:16 Brad Dowdy
Like the Jonathan Brooks, you know, poop emoji or something?
00:53:19 Myke Hurley
There you go.
00:53:19 Brad Dowdy
I don't know.
00:53:20 Myke Hurley
I knew you were going there.
00:53:21 Myke Hurley
Uh, so obviously I've seen some pictures are.
00:53:24 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, yeah.
00:53:24 Myke Hurley
It's their stuff.
00:53:26 Myke Hurley
That you have the I haven't guessed yet.
00:53:29 Myke Hurley
Did you get anything else?
00:53:32 Brad Dowdy
Uh, pens, let's see.
00:53:35 Brad Dowdy
So I got mythic pins, so Brad was there.
00:53:38 Brad Dowdy
I got a really cool.
00:53:40 Brad Dowdy
I think it's uh, turn pen company is the material that he used in a shape of the mythic pins.
00:53:46 Brad Dowdy
I have to look up the shape and like we can like we can do like a deep dive on like the products.
00:53:50 Brad Dowdy
Next week I'm going to do that.
00:53:52 Brad Dowdy
For Members this weekend and the newsletter takes all the pictures and do a deep dive on the products so I have to get the material name in the barrel shape and it's different from the barrel shape that Brad originally sent me and I think I might prefer this barrel shape a little bit more so I like that.
00:54:08 Brad Dowdy
Something I saw that I didn't buy.
00:54:11 Brad Dowdy
It was just a one off again that's what attracts me.
00:54:13 Brad Dowdy
Brian from iron feather.
00:54:15 Brad Dowdy
Creative people who followed like any of the Atlanta Pen Show Pictures, probably saw a picture of a shown design brass pocket six that Brian had etched.
00:54:24 Brad Dowdy
And so Brian is the one.
00:54:26 Brad Dowdy
That does a lot of really, really cool.
00:54:29 Brad Dowdy
Design work on Pin so he'll make pins like standard pins, and then he'll do like.
00:54:35 Brad Dowdy
The jewelry work for the.
00:54:37 Brad Dowdy
Roll stops and he'll do like barrel etchings on the pin itself and what he did with the shown design pocket.
00:54:46 Brad Dowdy
Six was he made kind of this swirl floral pattern.
00:54:52 Brad Dowdy
I don't know how.
00:54:53 Brad Dowdy
He did it, but this is what artisans do.
00:54:57 Brad Dowdy
So the pattern.
00:55:00 Brad Dowdy
Lines up when the pin is capped.
00:55:03 Brad Dowdy
And then you uncap the pin, screw it on the back and it lines up again and it shouldn't by gets purposefully done.
00:55:11 Brad Dowdy
To like he's just, you know, manage the pattern design and created it beforehand to line up in two different orientations.
00:55:19 Brad Dowdy
And it's really freaking wild, so I did not buy that someone did and I'll have to figure out who because it is a really, really cool pin.
00:55:27 Brad Dowdy
I bought a bunch of inks.
00:55:29 Brad Dowdy
I got diventa samples.
00:55:30 Brad Dowdy
The fairy tale ink samples.
00:55:32 Brad Dowdy
I got the Lamy safari, strawberries and cream.
00:55:37 Brad Dowdy
I bought 2 orange inks that I had not seen one of them before.
00:55:41 Brad Dowdy
Manganese orange from Mont Blanc, which is not a copycat of lucky orange.
00:55:48 Brad Dowdy
You know we've talked about Mont Blanc doing the copycats of the same names, similar colors and or exact same colors, different names.
00:55:54 Brad Dowdy
This is not.
00:55:55 Myke Hurley
Honestly, I consider that a great shame.
00:55:58 Myke Hurley
Stay with popping out that ink 'cause I'm starting to run low and I'm worried I'm not going to be able to get it anymore.
00:56:06 Brad Dowdy
So that's why I bought the second orange ink which was Pelikan Edelstein Mandarin, which was one of the original Edelstein launchings, and it's still available, but it's not exactly easy to find, and I never got it, and it's always been a really, really solid orange ink, so I picked that up for myself.
00:56:25 Brad Dowdy
I bought UM.
00:56:29 Brad Dowdy
All of the and aurillium inks, so those will be out here being tested at some point.
00:56:34 Brad Dowdy
They had two series of eight inks, so there was a, uh, cephalopod series and then an aviary series.
00:56:44 Brad Dowdy
So we'll be reviewing those.
00:56:46 Brad Dowdy
So I bought a.
00:56:47 Brad Dowdy
Bunch of stuff for.
00:56:47 Brad Dowdy
Review right?
00:56:48 Myke Hurley
Yeah, yeah.
00:56:48 Brad Dowdy
So a lot of stuff.
00:56:49 Brad Dowdy
Like that I bought some of the Odyssey notebooks which are 68 GSM come over. They came up a lot of people were talking about them after the Baltimore Show and John from lemur Ink picked up a bunch of stock from there. So I bought a bunch of those to test out and give.
00:57:04 Brad Dowdy
Way that was kind of the only paper I bought. I bought some hobonichi A5 grid notebooks with tomorrow river paper and I'm just, you know.
00:57:14 Brad Dowdy
Non planner style just you know straight up notebooks which I thought were pretty neat.
00:57:19 Brad Dowdy
You don't.
00:57:20 Brad Dowdy
You have to generally have to order those from the 11.
00:57:22 Brad Dowdy
01 site in Japan. Unless some of the vendors carry them, which I was able to get at dromgoole's.
00:57:28 Brad Dowdy
Uhm, what else that's?
00:57:30 Brad Dowdy
I mean, there's going to be a lot I have to go through.
00:57:32 Brad Dowdy
There's literally bags and bags of stuff I went.
00:57:34 Brad Dowdy
Kind of bezerk Mike.
00:57:36 Brad Dowdy
It was like the very first thing I I said like after my first couple purchases like whose idea was this to let me loose at up in show after two years not being at one 'cause.
00:57:46 Brad Dowdy
I kind of I kind of.
00:57:48 Brad Dowdy
Went unhinged with the credit card.
00:57:49 Myke Hurley
Oh, I look forward to my return buddy.
00:57:51 Myke Hurley
I'm gonna still be like pencho number one over here for me.
00:57:55 Brad Dowdy
Right?
00:57:56 Myke Hurley
I'm walking around like I'm just gonna go take a walk come back arms full you know.
00:58:00 Brad Dowdy
That's what it was like.
00:58:01 Brad Dowdy
I need to go see if my room is ready because I can no longer carry these things.
00:58:07 Myke Hurley
Well, I can't wait.
00:58:07 Brad Dowdy
And that was not the plan going in.
00:58:09 Brad Dowdy
I was trying to be managed and metered and that I like I failed like I'll just straight up tell y'all.
00:58:15 Brad Dowdy
I failed at any like management of of anything, so I have a lot more to discuss.
00:58:22 Brad Dowdy
I have pins that I haven't even mentioned yet that I need to go through.
00:58:27 Brad Dowdy
And figure out what I have.
00:58:28 Brad Dowdy
I have tons of like giveaway items and tons.
00:58:30 Brad Dowdy
Of new products.
00:58:32 Brad Dowdy
And it was fun, Mike, like it was great.
00:58:35 Myke Hurley
I look forward to getting through that over the next couple of weeks.
00:58:38 Myke Hurley
I think anything else you wanted to mention about the Penn show, like how, what was the vibe like in the evening and stuff.
00:58:44 Brad Dowdy
It was great, so the Atlanta Penco again.
00:58:47 Brad Dowdy
The bar situation there is pretty small right, generally speaking, compared to some of the bigger open bars.
00:58:53 Brad Dowdy
Even at like a small show like Philadelphia, they have a huge open bar area.
00:58:56 Brad Dowdy
Atlanta is kind of smaller and segmented out, but it was packed to the gills.
00:59:01 Brad Dowdy
Everyone that came to just like hang out and test pins.
00:59:04 Brad Dowdy
And chill out.
00:59:05 Brad Dowdy
I had smiles on their faces.
00:59:07 Brad Dowdy
They had a good time.
00:59:08 Brad Dowdy
It was just really really fun.
00:59:10 Brad Dowdy
Kind of our our hangout time afterwards.
00:59:13 Brad Dowdy
You know we had the the Friday afternoon cookout that Jimmy puts on for all the weekend passholders and vendors was absolutely.
00:59:24 Brad Dowdy
Jam packed to the hilt.
00:59:25 Brad Dowdy
I don't know that I've seen that was pretty much like standing room only for tables, which was great.
00:59:30 Brad Dowdy
I mean, there had to be. I've got one picture. I don't know that had well over 100 people, probably gosh more than that.
00:59:36 Brad Dowdy
It was a zoo in like the nicest way possible.
00:59:39 Brad Dowdy
Everyone you know, go sit at tables.
00:59:41 Brad Dowdy
Got to hang out with people.
00:59:42 Brad Dowdy
Got to, you know, mingle and you know.
00:59:45 Brad Dowdy
Eat hamburgers and hot dogs and.
00:59:47 Brad Dowdy
Drink, have a few beverages and hang out by the pool. We had perfect weather, right? Like we've been years where the weather's been nasty.
00:59:54 Brad Dowdy
Well, we had absolutely.
00:59:55 Brad Dowdy
Ideal weather everyone had the best time and then we just migrated into the bar until they finally turned the lights on out on us about 1111 thirty and called it at night.
01:00:03 Brad Dowdy
And it could not have been better.
01:00:05 Brad Dowdy
I love seeing all my friends, my Pinchot friends, that.
01:00:07 Brad Dowdy
I haven't seen in a while, yeah.
01:00:09 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, you know.
01:00:09 Brad Dowdy
Like you know, Catherine and.
01:00:14 Brad Dowdy
You know getting to hang out with like Brooks and Kirk Speer at the at the bar and you know.
01:00:20 Brad Dowdy
And just talking about knit, like getting to test out nibs and paper I don't.
01:00:23 Brad Dowdy
Know it was.
01:00:24 Brad Dowdy
Packed, I'll, I'll forget all the names you know Sandra, bringing all of the the sweets and cupcakes and cookies.
01:00:29 Brad Dowdy
You know keeping us all all amped up on sugar.
01:00:32 Brad Dowdy
Was great, it was great.
01:00:33 Brad Dowdy
We had a really, really, really, genuinely great time.
01:00:38 Myke Hurley
Well, I should say I look forward to hearing more over the next few weeks.
01:00:41 Myke Hurley
Uhm, about some of the pens and stuff that you've been picking up.
01:00:45 Brad Dowdy
Yep, Yep, I have a lot to do when I get back home and I'm looking forward to it.
01:00:50 Brad Dowdy
I literally just I walked in.
01:00:52 Brad Dowdy
I put the bags on my desk and they're still sitting there and then I left pretty much.
01:00:56 Brad Dowdy
I didn't see anything afterwards so I inked up a couple pins, but I have a lot to go through so we'll talk more about that next week.
01:01:03 Myke Hurley
Alright, if you want to catch show notes for this week's episode of putting a bunch of links. Some of the vendors and stuff that Brad was talking about, you can go to relay dot FM slash pen addict Slash 508 if you want to find Brad Online, you can go to go to Instagram, go check out all the photos he was posting from the from the pen show you go to instagram.com/pen addict.
01:01:23 Myke Hurley
He's at Pen Hampton Instagram.
01:01:24 Brad Dowdy
I'll have more up there this week.
01:01:26 Brad Dowdy
I'm oh oh good.
01:01:26 Brad Dowdy
Some of the things we talked about.
01:01:28 Brad Dowdy
Yeah, I haven't even come close to putting.
01:01:29 Brad Dowdy
Everything up there from the show good.
01:01:31 Brad Dowdy
I look forward to.
01:01:32 Myke Hurley
He's at Dowdy ISM on Twitter. Brad usually streams few times a week at twitch.tv/pen Alex. It started back up next week, 'cause you're away with it.
01:01:40 Brad Dowdy
Next week will be full schedule next week.
01:01:42 Brad Dowdy
No streams this week.
01:01:44 Myke Hurley
Go to panic.com, check everything that's there. I am I, Mike I am YK.
01:01:50 Myke Hurley
E Thanks again to our sponsors for this week's episode, the Fine People at Pen Chalet and Harris two and we'll be back next time. Until then, say goodbye, Brad.
01:01:59 Brad Dowdy
Goodbye, Brad.