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00:00:05 Myke Hurley

From Relay FM. This is the pen addict episode 508. Today's show is brought to you by our fine friends at Harris and Pen Chalet. My name is Mike Hurley. I am joined by Brad Dowdy. Hi, Brad.

00:00:18 Brad Dowdy

Hello Mike Hurley, live from Vacation mode, how are you?

00:00:21 Myke Hurley

Yep, brads on vacation today, but he's still here because that's the kind of guy is.

Thank you, Brad, for joining us today.

Big episode so you know I couldn't have filled in for you today because I didn't go to the Atlantic.

Sure, so I wouldn't have really had much to say, would I, you know.

00:00:37 Brad Dowdy

Why weren't you there?

Everyone was asking about you.

What was I supposed to say?

00:00:42 Myke Hurley

You know?

00:00:42 Brad Dowdy

I was like, yeah he just didn't like you.

Anymore I died.

00:00:44 Myke Hurley

But there was a moment where I was like.

Why didn't I prepare for this?

But I just didn't, you know it wasn't really on my mind when the planning time would have been needed and then I just.

00:00:56

Right?

00:00:57 Myke Hurley

Didn't think about it because as well, if I remember rightly, you weren't always sure you were going to go.

00:01:01 Brad Dowdy

So that's 100% why so? And I ended up only having it was pretty much I was there for almost.

Exactly 24.

Hours, right? So wouldn't work.

00:01:09 Myke Hurley

Yeah, that you know.

00:01:09 Brad Dowdy

For me that would not have worked for anybody.

00:01:11 Myke Hurley

And in and out like, but oh, it takes me 11 hours to get there or some nonsense.

I'm good.

00:01:18 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, pass, but every everyone was was asking about you.

Where's Mike?

Are you podcasting is like no no too much going on this weekend couldn't make it work but we'll get all to all of that here.

In a minute, we'll do a full Atlanta pen show recap.

Mike, at least the parts that I can say on the show.

Recap no, no, I'll get stuff.

Yet Nips who do I?

Feel I don't have any feuds.

00:01:42 Myke Hurley

No feuds, you don't have any current ones.

00:01:47 Brad Dowdy

Some legacy legacy feeds seafood.

00:01:48 Myke Hurley

Legacy, yeah, you've got some legacy fears, you know?

00:01:52 Brad Dowdy

I got it.

That's a pretty short list, thankfully.

00:01:55 Brad Dowdy

Thankfully, all right before we get to that I want to hit some new items, some updates, and some news of things that people have been asking about over the past weeks and months.

Number one I got an update from Ben Upenn my friend Kate, who helps run Ben Upenn.

They've replied to me an email number one Kate is like the sweetest she said.

I'm sorry it took so long for me to get back to you.

And I'm like Kate, listen.

00:02:25 Myke Hurley

Come on, I'm not the most important thing.

Here you know.

00:02:28 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, like that is so inconsequential and like I didn't even like I didn't.

I purposely wrote my email.

So to not leave it open ended like I'm just sending you an email of support, right?

There was no response required.

You know I didn't set up tell me how you're doing or you know all that stuff I was like I knew not to like put any burden on them and she's like I'm sorry I didn't reply to you.

Seems like you're a little bit busy.

You know, going through, moving out of Russia so it's a big deal.

The whole been Upenn team moving to Armenia, but Kate did email me, said they've made the move safely and are setting up shop in Armenia and they have started to work with their distribution partners again.

So you know, like here in the US, it's luxury brands and you know wherever else in the world they're shipping. You know, the different distribution partners throughout the world and they will be back.

With a full online shop set up, hopefully in about a month, she said her and Alex are working on that and they will let me know once it's live again and I told them I'd be happy to share all of that information information and she made a point that.

To let me know that they are so thankful for all the support they've gotten and they were really surprised.

The outpouring of support they were very worried.

You know, being based in Russia originally, how the Community would react.

And yeah, and things like that, but she said they were just been overwhelmed with the with the positive support from not just, you know the customers, but like the retailers.

And everyone you know.

Really, you know supportive of them and they they just wanted to let me know that they appreciated that.

So wanted to give everyone an update so you know they are.

They're in tough times and I think they feel positive, at least the the.

The gist of the email that they feel positive about the move that they made and about the future of benu pen so.

That makes all of us happy.

00:04:20 Myke Hurley

And while this would be so wild to me.

00:04:22 Brad Dowdy

I I cannot I I cannot put this together in my head right like I can't fathom.

00:04:28 Myke Hurley

Just open guys like it really is, kind of incredible.

00:04:28 Brad Dowdy

What is taking place, yeah.

00:04:33 Myke Hurley

But they've done so.

Yeah, big respect to Ben Upenn.

00:04:36 Brad Dowdy

Big time big time, so we'll have an update on down the line when Kate reaches back out and they are ready for normal operations again.

So the other.

News item that I was actually asked about several times at the Atlanta Pen Show because I brought a sample of the sands in tomorrow.

00:04:56 Brad Dowdy

River paper successor.

00:04:59 Brad Dowdy

Come to the pen show for people to play around with, it looks like.

00:05:03 Brad Dowdy

Yamamoto paper our friend Taizo, from Yamamoto, has his hands on the Sands and Tomoe River paper.

00:05:11 Brad Dowdy

And is going to launch it on April 15th on their Etsy page.

00:05:16 Brad Dowdy

So Yamamoto papers Etsy page.

00:05:18 Brad Dowdy

So Yamamoto paper?

00:05:19 Brad Dowdy

As you can imagine is a say paper supplier.

00:05:22 Brad Dowdy

They make notebooks.

00:05:23 Brad Dowdy

They make the Ruby keynote notebooks.

00:05:25 Brad Dowdy

They're the ones who did the paper testing paper tasting samplers.

00:05:29 Brad Dowdy

Mike, do you recall those like from the SF Pen show?

00:05:32 Brad Dowdy

I think you met Taizo when we were there.

00:05:34 Brad Dowdy

He comes to the SF Pen show.

00:05:36 Brad Dowdy

Great, great, great great guy and.

00:05:40 Brad Dowdy

I don't know how they're going to be selling it right?

00:05:42 Brad Dowdy

Are they going to be selling loose sheets or they gonna have bound products?

00:05:45 Brad Dowdy

I mean, Yamamoto paper has capabilities.

00:05:46 Myke Hurley

Based on this image like this fitness video that I put in the show notes, I bet it's loose sheets 'cause they're writing on loose sheets I expect, especially because they're selling it on Etsy like it just doesn't fit.

00:05:58 Myke Hurley

This feels like a bit like.

00:06:00 Myke Hurley

I don't know, you know what I mean?

00:06:01 Myke Hurley

Like he's just a bit like, you know, they've also posted another image.

00:06:06 Myke Hurley

It's there isn't a translation of it.

00:06:09 Myke Hurley

It's not.

00:06:09 Myke Hurley

It's not in English here, but maybe I can work that out where it's just a bunch of sheets of paper which I'm assuming is the yellow motor paper.

00:06:15 Brad Dowdy

Right, right?

00:06:16 Myke Hurley

So I would expect people to expect that, and also here's the other thing.

00:06:21 Myke Hurley

I mean, I'm assuming at some point, as you would naturally assume to sanzone will give this a brand.

00:06:31 Brad Dowdy

I was going to talk about that I I don't know.

00:06:33 Brad Dowdy

I mean this is from Yamamoto paper saying Sands into Moya River.

00:06:37 Brad Dowdy

Is that the name?

00:06:39 Brad Dowdy

You know?

00:06:39 Myke Hurley

Oh OK, 'cause you referred to it as successor, right?

00:06:39 Brad Dowdy

You know I have great big thoughts on this.

00:06:43 Brad Dowdy

Well, that was the that was sanzen's original, let's call it this right. I agree, I agree.

00:06:44 Myke Hurley

Yeah, yeah.

00:06:47 Myke Hurley

Send a real name.

00:06:48 Myke Hurley

In my opinion, that was like a that was a a code name.

00:06:52 Myke Hurley

Yep, and so they keep in the tomorrow part.

00:06:54 Myke Hurley

OK, just as another aside, the Yamamoto the the announcement of this.

00:07:00 Myke Hurley

The handwriting of this person and this Insignia thing is absolutely astounding to me.

00:07:05 Myke Hurley

It's so good, but anyway, I am intrigued by this.

00:07:09 Myke Hurley

I think that.

00:07:10 Myke Hurley

But from a branding perspective, I think it's smart and have done what?

00:07:13 Myke Hurley

I thought should be done, they keeping the Tomoe River name, but they're putting their own brand name before.

00:07:19 Myke Hurley

I think that works perfectly, making tomorrow river a product owned by Sam's.

00:07:24 Brad Dowdy

And yes, I think that's the correct way to do it.

00:07:25 Myke Hurley

This is the way to do it.

00:07:27 Brad Dowdy

I think that's a quick way to do it.

00:07:28 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, I know I was on the on the on the warpath for like removing Tomoe River and starting it.

00:07:33 Brad Dowdy

Calling it something new, but like I understand like if you bought the branding and you're paying for the branding, I just really didn't want that successor name in there and I knew it wasn't going to be.

00:07:41

No, it's terrible.

00:07:42 Brad Dowdy

I wasn't planning on that.

00:07:43 Brad Dowdy

But if we go Sands in Tomoyo River, then I think we have like this line of demarcation that is needed in the Tomoe River paper.

00:07:51 Brad Dowdy

If we're going to continue to call tomorrow, river different things.

00:07:53 Myke Hurley

It's easy for people like you and me to know the difference.

00:07:57 Myke Hurley

You know, if you even care about the difference, right?

00:08:00 Myke Hurley

Yeah, because you know from from the episode where Jacob was on.

00:08:04 Myke Hurley

He seemed pretty happy with it, like there might not even be a need to consider them as separate products really.

00:08:10 Myke Hurley

Yeah, like it's just.

00:08:11 Myke Hurley

River Lake is basically the same kind of idea, just it's a slightly different formulation Now I guess.

00:08:18 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, so look for that April 15th on Yamamoto's Etsy store. And like I said like you're, you said, and I'm thinking the same, it's probably going to be loose sheet packs. I mean, that's what Yamamoto does best. They sell tons of loose paper.

00:08:30 Myke Hurley

All of their images.

00:08:32 Myke Hurley

It's just, uh, that other one that I was referencing.

00:08:35 Myke Hurley

That which is they've.

00:08:36 Myke Hurley

They've basically unboxed it, and like we couldn't wait to use this.

00:08:39 Myke Hurley

It's the translation of the post.

00:08:41 Myke Hurley

It's just three different loose sheet sizes.

00:08:43 Myke Hurley

Yeah, so?

00:08:44 Myke Hurley

Why do they sell on Etsy?

00:08:46 Myke Hurley

Is that because of just like taxes and stuff, you know?

00:08:49 Brad Dowdy

I'm guessing it's some ease of use to get things over into different markets outside of Japan.

00:08:54 Myke Hurley

Yeah, 'cause I know Etsy Etsy's had a bit of a resurgence with this, like duty paid stuff that we were talking about at the beginning the year, because sites like Etsy. They do the tax calculations for different countries.

00:08:55 Brad Dowdy

I I can't totally answer that, but I know a lot of people do that.

00:09:08 Myke Hurley

Right, so a lot of people are now using Etsy.

If they're shipping anywhere international, because that's the will just take care of it for them and they don't have to do the tax collection.

00:09:18 Brad Dowdy

Payment right right?

Which is something I have to.

00:09:20 Myke Hurley

Figure out like yeah.

If you remember we were talking about it at the time that like there are going to be companies that take advantage.

Of this, at C is one of them.

00:09:26 Brad Dowdy

Right?

Right, and then, let's see what also recently has gone up in their rates for the percentages they they take from Etsy, the Etsy marketplace.

00:09:39 Myke Hurley

But that doesn't surprise me.

00:09:39 Brad Dowdy

And think there is a big uproar.

About that right?

00:09:41 Myke Hurley

If they're, if they're providing these additional services, making people more reliant on them because they're going to do it.

00:09:46 Brad Dowdy

Yep, Yep, so that's a big to do right now.

00:09:48 Brad Dowdy

I don't know all the details, but I'm I'm sure we'll get some emails, but I I've read some of the Etsy goings on recently.

00:09:54 Brad Dowdy

It's it's it's.

00:09:55 Brad Dowdy

He's a hot topic recently, they've just gotten so huge, right?

00:09:58 Brad Dowdy

So there's lots of changes and lots of lots of makers on there are getting dinged.

00:10:04 Myke Hurley

Now remind me of eBay really like, yeah, because eBay was like you just sell your stuff to individual people like that's eBay.

00:10:11 Myke Hurley

And then brands came to eBay.

00:10:14 Brad Dowdy

Right?

00:10:14 Myke Hurley

Let's set up eBay stores and it feels like Etsy is going through that right now where it was like Etsy is like, hey, you make a thing so it to other people.

00:10:18 Brad Dowdy

Right, right?

00:10:21 Myke Hurley

But now it's like companies have their access floors.

You know what I mean?

00:10:25 Brad Dowdy

Right?

00:10:25 Myke Hurley

It's like a different.

They've moved into a different space, Yep.

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Brad, I know you're in vacation mode right now.

Brad was telling me before the episode he had no hands.

I don't really know what that meant.

Based like I, I can't access the discord today 'cause I have no hands available which is an intriguing thing for me because I'm not really sure.

Why he needs them but nevertheless, are you able to see it?

Or shall I go through some of my?

Favorites from the this week's deals.

00:12:14 Brad Dowdy

No, I'm able to see it in. In fact, I have three things. Two from Pen Chalet, Mike. So we're going to keep we're going to keep that thing up thing. #1 Rotring 800 mechanical pencil. This is the.

00:12:18 Myke Hurley

All right?

The rule of threes today.

00:12:27 Brad Dowdy

The leadpipe retractable version of the famous Rotring 600 and it's usually like an 80 plus dollar pencil. It's on a very very good sale right now and so I actually didn't know that they carried these so that is good to know from their number 2. The cevico AC sport fountain pens, so this is the.

00:12:47 Brad Dowdy

Aluminium sport barrel with carbon fiber inlays.

00:12:51 Brad Dowdy

It's a very neat looking cevico sport.

00:12:54 Myke Hurley

If you need to write faster.

00:12:54 Brad Dowdy

If you're into those things.

This is the pen.

For you.

00:12:59 Brad Dowdy

Yes, so this is this is.

This could be the Ferrari edition.

00:13:02 Brad Dowdy

Mike, it's just when it's the red and the carbon fiber and it goes faster than all of the other cabico sports.

00:13:02 Myke Hurley

It actually could be.

00:13:07 Myke Hurley

And you have a pen.

00:13:10 Brad Dowdy

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00:13:21

OK.

00:13:29 Brad Dowdy

Hey looks, I think the standard one is cool.

No, this is the box.

The arrow excuse me.

The diplomat Arrow is the traditional one.

00:13:36 Myke Hurley

I was going to.

00:13:36 Brad Dowdy

That we yeah, sorry.

00:13:37 Myke Hurley

Say if all they do is like.

00:13:39 Myke Hurley

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00:13:39 Brad Dowdy

LXML he likes.

00:13:43 Myke Hurley

It that's the diplomat range right there.

00:13:47 Brad Dowdy

So this one they changed the pattern.

00:13:50 Brad Dowdy

They kept the barrel shape like the barrel silhouette and then did a ring pattern with that's black and orange and this one been super popular.

00:13:57 Brad Dowdy

So that's a great deal.

00:13:58 Brad Dowdy

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00:14:03 Myke Hurley

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00:14:13 Myke Hurley

I'll thanks to pen Chalet for the continued support of this show and relay FM.

00:14:17 Brad Dowdy

I went to the Atlanta pen.

00:14:18 Myke Hurley

Show Mike you sure did what year is it?

00:14:22 Myke Hurley

Where am I?

00:14:22

Why this?

00:14:24 Brad Dowdy

It is 2022.

00:14:26 Brad Dowdy

Can I just say right pincher what just?

00:14:28 Myke Hurley

Say obviously a lot of terrible things have happened right over the last couple of years, but I need to talk about one.

Of the true.

Travesties of producing this show during COVID.

We would have multiple episodes a year.

That was just easy content.

You know Brad went to the pen show.

What was the pen?

Show like right true, you know.

00:14:48 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, I didn't think about, yeah.

00:14:48 Myke Hurley

We saw that and they're all like, oh, we went to the pen show is.

Our live show

Think about us over here, right?

Had to work harder to come up.

With content for you, or Brad has 'cause Brad come.

Brad's that content machine you know? Think about. That's the real. I mean, if you think about.

But that's one of the true travesties of this.

Yeah, this time period, I think.

00:15:07 Brad Dowdy

Thanks a lot.

World events way to go.

Work harder.

00:15:11 Myke Hurley

We gotta repair shoelaces over here.

Come on.

00:15:15 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, the plan for more podcasts.

00:15:17 Brad Dowdy

Gum world you.

00:15:17

Come on.

00:15:19 Brad Dowdy

Are the worst.

00:15:22 Myke Hurley

Get vaccinated you.

00:15:23 Myke Hurley

Dumb, it's like.

00:15:26 Brad Dowdy

So I made it back.

00:15:27 Brad Dowdy

It was the whole like getting there, getting ready for it.

00:15:33 Brad Dowdy

The pre arrival was just weird, right?

00:15:36 Brad Dowdy

It was like it has generally been a long time since I've done this and going to a pin show.

00:15:41 Brad Dowdy

Uhm, luckily for those who may be listening to the show for the first time, or you know, or newer listeners.

00:15:46 Brad Dowdy

I only live about an hour and a half from where the Lana PIN show is held, so I could just drive to it and I didn't have the time to stay the whole Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

00:15:59 Brad Dowdy

Of the show and set up a table and do all that. So I just plan to drive up Friday morning and leave late Saturday morning. And you know, spend like 24 hours in the environment of the Pinchot and it.

00:16:15 Brad Dowdy

I didn't miss a beat like it was really OK really cool like it felt normal.

00:16:20 Brad Dowdy

It felt good.

00:16:21 Brad Dowdy

It did feel weird like rolling up like I rolled up to the hotel.

00:16:24 Myke Hurley

Yeah, I was gonna say it.

00:16:25 Myke Hurley

How did it feel coming in, you know?

00:16:27 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, it's like I rolled up to the hotel.

I'm like, OK, I'm here.

The show is open like by the time I arrive I can just walk in and after I got my badge, which I'll I want to talk about that in a second, uhm, I walked right into the first room on the right at the Atlanta Pen Show.

If you've been there, you'll know it's the smallest room.

But I figured a a bunch of the people that I wanted to see would be there and the first person I see is on a Rainer.

Our bestie from the well appointed desk who was working for Vanna spins at this past weekend and that's all I needed to just be reabsorbed into.

OK, I'm at the pen show.

Let's do this.

It was like, you know, it's like walking through like through like the curtain into the other room is like.

Were transported OK.

I was out in the parking lot and then in like within 5 minutes I was in the Pinchot environment and I felt right at home even though I felt like kind of weird like right in the beginning and once I started talking to Anna you know I turn around and I see Jonathan Brooks and then I look over and I see.

You know Brad Owens from mythic pens and I see Mark Bacas and they're all like within arm's reach and I'm like.

OK, like this, feels like back to normal so I.

I have to give this shout out because I will forget as we continue to talk about like my show experience and stuff.

Jimmy Dolph is the best he puts on the pin show.

He's the he's the Atlanta pen show promoter.

Many people who go to pinchos around the US know Jimmy and his daughter Suzanne from going to Pinchos. And because they go to pretty much all of them and set up, you know their own.

Key is always taking care of everything we needed in the past.

You and I for the podcast Jeff and I for knock.

00:18:18 Myke Hurley

So helpful, even when he couldn't understand what we were doing.

You know what I mean?

00:18:22 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, we just trust.

00:18:22 Myke Hurley

Like like who are these guys?

00:18:23 Myke Hurley

They doing.

00:18:25 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, he trusted us too.

00:18:26 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, uhm, so I like I walk in.

00:18:29 Brad Dowdy

I registered online.

00:18:31 Brad Dowdy

But you don't pay online, you pay when you get there, and I walk in.

00:18:34 Brad Dowdy

And I talked to the table, Sherry, who I hadn't seen in a few years, is always working there and.

00:18:41 Brad Dowdy

She hands me my envelope and there's a big sticky note on it that says paid and I'm like no, I didn't pay and she's like Jimmy said and I'm like OK like.

00:18:48 Myke Hurley

Oh, gotcha.

00:18:51 Brad Dowdy

So Jimmy, like that's how my day started right with you know, good old Jimmy doing Jimmy things right and I was like, OK, like we're we're just back in Atlanta doing our thing and it was great so.

00:19:04 Brad Dowdy

You know, I I just I hung out, walked around.

00:19:07 Brad Dowdy

Willie, you know once I got there I really just wanted to go see people that I hadn't seen.

00:19:13 Brad Dowdy

Uhm, you know in a long time you know Lisa Van Ness.

00:19:16 Brad Dowdy

You know Anna everyone I mentioned before.

00:19:19 Brad Dowdy

Kelly from mountain of Ink was working there.

00:19:22 Brad Dowdy

With Van Ness, and you know I saw Nick Pang and like I'm gonna I'm not.

00:19:27 Brad Dowdy

Forget to mention people through this through this whole thing but.

00:19:33 Brad Dowdy

In a weird way, I mean this in the nicest way possible, but like nothing and no one has changed.

00:19:40 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, and I mean that in a really, really good, comfortable way, right?

00:19:44 Brad Dowdy

Everything it was just like the last time that we all hung out together.

00:19:48 Brad Dowdy

We're all there for the same nonsense, that is, uh, pencho, right?

00:19:53 Brad Dowdy

Like it's just a fun time, a fun environment, everyone happy.

00:19:57 Brad Dowdy

You know, a lot of us hadn't seen each other in a long time.

00:20:00 Brad Dowdy

I hadn't seen you know some of these people.

00:20:01 Brad Dowdy

In part I.

00:20:02 Brad Dowdy

You know, I might talk to Anna or Jonathan like all the time, but I hadn't seen them in.

00:20:06 Brad Dowdy

Person in over two years.

00:20:07 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, you know.

00:20:08 Brad Dowdy

So it.

00:20:09 Brad Dowdy

It was cool like it was.

00:20:10 Brad Dowdy

It was really cool.

00:20:11 Brad Dowdy

Cool and just in that one little room you know.

00:20:14 Brad Dowdy

Aside from them, you know I got to talk with Jim and Francisco from Heinz PIMCO, right?

00:20:20 Brad Dowdy

And Brian and Iron Feather creative, who had just gotten introduced to at the last PIN show I went to which was in Baltimore.

00:20:26 Brad Dowdy

2020 he makes really great work and like I said Nick was in there. So like just this little bitty.

00:20:31 Brad Dowdy

Room I was like in there for an hour just catching up with old friends and and family.

00:20:36 Brad Dowdy

Essentially family right.

00:20:37 Brad Dowdy

This is like one big happy extended pin family and it was.

00:20:43 Brad Dowdy

It was just cool so.

00:20:45 Brad Dowdy

You know I made it out of that room, you know, just talking, and I was like, OK, let me go see what's in the room.

00:20:52 Brad Dowdy

The second room, which is where they usually the knock table, is where you and I would hang out right and Jeff and.

00:20:58 Brad Dowdy

And everyone else hanging out there.

00:21:00 Brad Dowdy

And that's where Jimmy is, so I wanted to go thank him.

00:21:01 Brad Dowdy

So I did and he's like, hey?

00:21:03 Brad Dowdy

Uhm, I kept your table over there in case you wanted it.

00:21:07 Brad Dowdy

Like case, you needed to sit down or just like put your stuff there like he didn't sell art.

00:21:12 Brad Dowdy

Table on purpose.

00:21:13 Myke Hurley

It's a better, better prime realistically.

00:21:15 Brad Dowdy

After staying it is it is like after I gave it up I said like, uh, look, I can't do a table.

00:21:20 Brad Dowdy

I can't be there and it's like one of the best tables in the show and he kept it.

00:21:24 Brad Dowdy

He kept it for me so that he that's just how he is.

00:21:29 Brad Dowdy

So right across from our table, literally like if I was sitting it at what was.

00:21:33 Brad Dowdy

Our table is Mike Masuyama, right?

00:21:35 Brad Dowdy

Like that's, you know you're in the good spot when you're you're staring at Mike Masuyama across the house.

00:21:40 Brad Dowdy

So you know I talked to Mike and then next to him was Matthew Chin, another new newer nib worker.

00:21:46 Brad Dowdy

We'll have links in the show notes to a lot of these people that I'm talking about because we're going to talk about nib working and all the people I ran into a bunch, so you know, that's the room with like, Franklin, Christoph and Dromgoole's and Federalist pins and and all kinds of stuff.

00:22:01 Brad Dowdy

Mike, you would have died at this one table. That dromgoole's is now bringing.

00:22:05 Brad Dowdy

Huh, they bring?

00:22:06 Brad Dowdy

I should say one table it was.

00:22:10 Brad Dowdy

Was it 3 tables or two tables?

00:22:13 Brad Dowdy

At least two full tables of retro 50 ones.

00:22:16 Myke Hurley

Oh, I saw those images.

00:22:18 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, that was.

00:22:19 Myke Hurley

Oh darn.

00:22:19 Brad Dowdy

I think that was two of the three tables of breathless 50 ones.

00:22:21 Myke Hurley

Anderson pens always had a large large selection.

00:22:25 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, yeah so.

00:22:27 Brad Dowdy

But this is this was not your standard retros, right?

00:22:31 Brad Dowdy

This was new retros plus.

00:22:35 Brad Dowdy

Rare retros prototypes like 1 offs like you could see five different versions of the same pin there from the types of like was it the prototype was it.

00:22:49 Brad Dowdy

The proof model was it like wow.

00:22:51 Brad Dowdy

All these weird things.

00:22:52 Brad Dowdy

So it was wild.

00:22:53 Brad Dowdy

It was wild seeing that so that that was.

00:22:56 Brad Dowdy

Pretty cool, so I got to meet Marty who is super knowledgeable. He kind of runs that table for for the Dromgoole's and he he he knows all the all the retro 51 stuff. So that was cool cool to hang out. Marty and his wife were were running that table and.

00:23:01 Myke Hurley

OK.

00:23:11 Brad Dowdy

You know, and there were some other small makers in that room like normal, that's, uh, that room that we're normally in is a good mix of people, right?

00:23:16 Brad Dowdy

Like it's, you know it's got traditional vendors.

00:23:18 Brad Dowdy

It's got nib workers.

00:23:19 Brad Dowdy

It's got new, smaller makers.

00:23:21 Brad Dowdy

It's kind of a a good room, yeah and then come out in the hallway.

00:23:24 Brad Dowdy

There's a hallway that connects really to the biggest room in the back, which is like in the third room, but it's the biggest room in the hallway was.

00:23:31 Brad Dowdy

Which a lot of people are familiar with for Monte Verde Pennathur mayora, you know, just.

00:23:37 Brad Dowdy

Gosh, they had.

00:23:38 Brad Dowdy

I don't know six or eight tables out there, just tons and tons and tons of pins and pins and stuff.

00:23:43 Brad Dowdy

They're going to be the ones carrying delta when it comes back like we talked about the Delta resurgence here when they come back, they'll have delta.

00:23:50 Brad Dowdy

They couldn't give me a date on that.

00:23:51 Brad Dowdy

I know people have been asking about when delta going to come back, they weren't ready to commit to a date, but I'm thinking.

00:23:57 Brad Dowdy

Soonish, right?

00:24:00 Brad Dowdy

Then you roll into the big room in the back.

00:24:02 Brad Dowdy

You know, seeing people like Ryan crew sack John from Lima Rank Crazy, Allen was back there.

00:24:11 Brad Dowdy

You know your buddy crazy Allen love that guy.

00:24:12 Myke Hurley

Oh my God, what a?

00:24:14 Brad Dowdy

Love him.

00:24:15 Brad Dowdy

The Penn family was back there.

00:24:18 Brad Dowdy

Then you had your your.

00:24:19 Brad Dowdy

Bigger distributors and.

00:24:21 Brad Dowdy

You know, bigger companies like Kenro Industries, right?

00:24:24 Brad Dowdy

So our friends there that have Esterbrook and Aurora, and Monte Grappa.

00:24:30 Brad Dowdy

Then we had pilot America was there, so they had all the like.

00:24:33 Brad Dowdy

The pilot is pilot.

00:24:36 Brad Dowdy

North America is based out of Jacksonville, so they were an easy, easy ride.

00:24:39 Brad Dowdy

So they came up and, you know brought all their stuff.

00:24:43 Brad Dowdy

Then we had more nib workers back there.

00:24:45 Brad Dowdy

Kirk Speer from Penn, Roman Damian Alamar from all in the nib.

00:24:48 Brad Dowdy

They were back there working, then we had more new products like and drillium inks and tessore pen and I was getting to check out some of these pens and inks and makers that I've heard of online but not gotten to see in person.

00:25:03 Brad Dowdy

Necessarily, so it was kind of cool to see all that.

00:25:07 Brad Dowdy

Then we had like our old stalwarts there that we always see like Bertos or and Tom Bailey with all his Pelicans and and all of that stuff so.

00:25:16 Brad Dowdy

It was pretty full vendor wise like size wise like it obviously wasn't as.

00:25:23 Brad Dowdy

Table wise it wasn't as sold out as like when we were going.

00:25:27 Brad Dowdy

You know three and four.

00:25:28 Brad Dowdy

Years ago, but I'd.

00:25:29 Brad Dowdy

Say probably 90% of the tables were full.

00:25:32 Brad Dowdy

UM, we might could have jammed some more in the hallway like when the nib Smith was in would come.

00:25:39 Brad Dowdy

Dan Smith.

00:25:39 Brad Dowdy

He would be in the hallway like there was a gap there, like that wasn't filled.

00:25:43 Brad Dowdy

But I think.

00:25:45 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, it was mostly full with vendors. I think I heard there were 47 different vendors, but a lot of them had, you know, multiple tables like two to two to four tables, so it was reasonably full.

00:25:57 Brad Dowdy

Friday traffic was a little light.

00:26:01 Brad Dowdy

I think everyone was saying which is understandable.

00:26:04 Brad Dowdy

I mean Saturday is always going to be the big show at a traditional a big day at the traditional three day shows, right?

00:26:10 Brad Dowdy

Saturday is the biggest day 'cause you know local people got to get off work.

00:26:13 Brad Dowdy

People who travel got to get in and in.

00:26:16 Brad Dowdy

It business wise I think it was good though from the the vendors and everyone I talked to Friday and then you know it, it wasn't overly crowded though so it was great for me too.

00:26:26 Brad Dowdy

I made a point to get there early.

00:26:29 Brad Dowdy

Go hang out, go see as much as I could.

00:26:33 Brad Dowdy

Uhm, you know did some a lot of my shopping on Friday.

00:26:37 Brad Dowdy

OK, and it it was. Just it was cool. You know, skipping onto Saturday, just real quick. It definitely the crowd ramped up by the time I was sleeping on Saturday so I left about 11:30 Saturday which means I only had like 2 hours in the show and by the time I left it was like you're, you know, dodging and weaving just to just to move.

00:26:57 Brad Dowdy

Around so that was cool to see that it filled up pretty well on Saturday.

00:27:02 Myke Hurley

Seems like you picked the right day though for you, yeah.

00:27:04 Brad Dowdy

Totally like if I just wanted to like chill and hang and and you know talk to people that I haven't seen in a while.

00:27:10 Brad Dowdy

It I really.

00:27:12 Brad Dowdy

We didn't have an issue, right?

00:27:14 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, so it it was good.

00:27:19 Brad Dowdy

Big picture observations.

00:27:21 Brad Dowdy

There was a nib worker.

00:27:26 Brad Dowdy

And I was a little bit worried that there wouldn't be enough work for them, but I think that was not an issue whatsoever.

00:27:34 Brad Dowdy

They all had their sheets out and.

00:27:34

OK.

00:27:36 Brad Dowdy

And the sheets might had like one or two time slots open and people would see that and they would fill them up like I'd be sitting there getting nib work and someone would come talk to me and they look at a sheet and it's like 3/4 full and they go.

00:27:48 Brad Dowdy

Oh, there's a time at 3:30 boom and they fill it up and there was celebrity. It was masuyama Mark Bacas, Matthew Chen, Kirk Speer.

00:27:56 Brad Dowdy

Naman Alumar we're all there, working on nibs and I'm I'm not counting like Audrey.

00:28:02 Brad Dowdy

You know the nib Dr at Franklin Christoph.

00:28:04 Brad Dowdy

She just does all the Franklin, Christoph.

00:28:05 Brad Dowdy

Stuff Pendleton Brown was there.

00:28:07 Brad Dowdy

He does nib grinds but he did all pre ground stuff for the show like he wasn't working on pins at the show.

00:28:12 Brad Dowdy

He brought pins.

00:28:12 Brad Dowdy

That were previously.

00:28:13 Brad Dowdy

Done so the people that you could bring pins to.

00:28:17 Brad Dowdy

And get work done.

00:28:19 Brad Dowdy

There was five really really good options and I think they stayed reasonably busy the whole show.

00:28:25 Brad Dowdy

If not, I never saw any of them, not, you know, working right like it was.

00:28:30 Brad Dowdy

It was cool to see and I certainly got some nib work done from everyone who I had never.

00:28:38 Brad Dowdy

Used before, so that was Matthew Chin.

00:28:40 Brad Dowdy

Kirk Speer and Damian alamar.

00:28:42 Brad Dowdy

We can maybe talk maybe more next week about like some real specifics and things that I got done.

00:28:47 Brad Dowdy

You know, I I could sit here and and talk about like each nib and in each thing but like real quick, Matthew Chin did an auto G grind for me on a pin that I bought so we can.

00:28:57 Brad Dowdy

We can discuss that next week.

00:28:59 Brad Dowdy

We can discuss that.

00:29:00 Brad Dowdy

Or and explain to you what that is and and why I.

00:29:01 Myke Hurley

Just 'cause I don't, I don't.

00:29:02 Brad Dowdy

Got it.

00:29:02 Myke Hurley

Know what that means?

00:29:03 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, yeah, like we could spend 10 minutes on that, so I think I'll just continue going.

00:29:08 Brad Dowdy

Through going through the show 'cause I have a lot more to talk about and then like Kirk Speer, I brought my Lamy safari.

00:29:13 Brad Dowdy

I wanted to get a needlepoint grind done from him and I know he does good needle points. So I got that done and then Damian I got him to put a curse of a talent grind on my pilot custom 74 so you know, I know, Mark Baucus and I have a ton of marks nibs, and I know Mike, my see I'm and I have a ton of mikes.

00:29:29 Brad Dowdy

So I wanted to try.

00:29:31 Brad Dowdy

You know all these new to me people like I've met Damien before.

00:29:34 Brad Dowdy

I'd never met Kirk before and I'd never met Matthew before, even though I was certainly aware of all of them and all of their work.

00:29:41 Brad Dowdy

So like we were like totally spoiled, right?

00:29:44 Brad Dowdy

So I really wanted to sit with each of.

00:29:50 Brad Dowdy

You know the nib workers that I had not sat with before and kind of get an idea of what they do and they all do great work.

00:29:58 Brad Dowdy

Obviously it's a really good good experience and I I really like that.

00:30:05 Brad Dowdy

There was a.

00:30:07 Brad Dowdy

A really good vendor balance OK, but between like OK, big retailers. You know our big retailers we know like vanness dromgoole's friend, list, crazy federalist pens, crazy Allen. We had a lot of makers there. You know you had Carolina Pen company and mythic pins and iron feather creative.

00:30:27 Brad Dowdy

And on and on and on.

00:30:28 Brad Dowdy

11 they had your individual vendors even either like your vintage, you know your vintage vendors, or you know just people selling their collections.

00:30:41 Brad Dowdy

I would have liked to seen a couple more distributors because that's from that's more of a me thing 'cause I get to like to.

00:30:48 Brad Dowdy

I like to talk to the people who are bringing in the pins to sell.

00:30:51 Myke Hurley

That feels like a big Penco deal, right?

00:30:55 Myke Hurley

I don't know.

00:30:55 Myke Hurley

It lands has always gotten bigger over time, but it feels like the distributors are very much focused around like San Francisco and DC.

00:31:03 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, so we got kenro and we got Yafa.

00:31:07 Brad Dowdy

And we got pilot.

00:31:08 Brad Dowdy

I would have liked to seen luxury brands you know which is Platinum Waldman?

00:31:14 Brad Dowdy

Benu colorverse right?

00:31:17 Brad Dowdy

They do a bunch and then Coles of London, which is Visconti St DuPont.

00:31:21 Brad Dowdy

Like I I mean I I get that they like not all these people go to all these shows like I get it in Atlanta.

00:31:26 Brad Dowdy

You know Atlanta is definitely on the smaller side.

00:31:28 Brad Dowdy

So maybe it's just not a fit for them, but I wouldn't mind.

00:31:30 Brad Dowdy

It's at least seeing a few more of the distributor types there, but like I totally get it, I we had access to like literally everything.

00:31:37 Brad Dowdy

If there's anything I wanted to see.

00:31:39 Brad Dowdy

It was available for me to see, right?

00:31:42 Brad Dowdy

Which is kind of the sign of a good show.

00:31:45 Brad Dowdy

You know, I got to see makers that I hadn't seen before, right?

00:31:49 Brad Dowdy

I got to see distributors that I have long term relationships with right and everything in between, right so?

00:31:58 Brad Dowdy

It was, it was pretty cool.

00:32:00 Brad Dowdy

The other thing that Atlanta is never done whereas show like Baltimore does and San Francisco does is there's really no local non stationary presence.

00:32:12 Brad Dowdy

It's there like there's no chocolate maker, right?

00:32:15 Brad Dowdy

There's no coffee representation.

00:32:18 Brad Dowdy

There's no jewelry representation.

00:32:20 Brad Dowdy

I kind of like to see that mix.

00:32:22 Brad Dowdy

And match of local.

00:32:23 Brad Dowdy

Like vendors being involved in the community, I think that's just additive to the pencho experience.

00:32:30 Brad Dowdy

Atlanta is also not a big show.

00:32:32 Brad Dowdy

I I also kind of get that right.

00:32:33 Brad Dowdy

It's not quite on the same on on par with some of the other shows, so I don't know.

00:32:37 Brad Dowdy

That's just a personal thing, you know.

00:32:38 Myke Hurley

Now you know that we spoke about.

00:32:38 Brad Dowdy

I like to have those one off things.

00:32:40 Myke Hurley

This a lot over the years.

00:32:43 Myke Hurley

The presence of the pen addict and surround.

00:32:47 Myke Hurley

Media Properties has made Atlanta more of a destination show than it otherwise would have been, but it's still just.

00:32:54 Myke Hurley

There's only so much physical sites that show can grow into and.

00:33:00 Myke Hurley

San Francisco and DC, which like I think of the two like big ones that I've been to even Toronto.

00:33:07 Myke Hurley

Just so much more physical space right to put to put vendors into so right.

00:33:14 Brad Dowdy

Right, right?

00:33:15 Brad Dowdy

So it's it's not a complaint.

00:33:16 Brad Dowdy

It's just like uh, oh, in a perfect world.

00:33:18 Brad Dowdy

This like I thought it was really really good like it had everything that I wanted the best thing one of the coolest things about Atlanta and well, this is actually.

00:33:26 Brad Dowdy

What we'll we'll.

00:33:27 Brad Dowdy

Get to at the end, but I'll mention it now is because you kind of alluded to it.

00:33:31 Brad Dowdy

People travel to this show like the the not, not the necessarily the vendors.

00:33:36 Brad Dowdy

And the people selling at the show.

00:33:38 Brad Dowdy

But the customers come, they really come to this show because it's a fun, easy show.

00:33:42 Brad Dowdy

You get to meet a lot of people.

00:33:44 Brad Dowdy

There's some good hang out stuff you know to do at this show, and it's really kind of a kind of little self contained community.

00:33:50 Brad Dowdy

At the show, you know a lot of people hanging out, so we'll we'll wrap.

00:33:53 Brad Dowdy

That at the end that was kind of.

00:33:56 Brad Dowdy

The big picture.

00:33:57 Brad Dowdy

Observations it felt really good, good balance, good crowds.

00:34:02 Brad Dowdy

I was not packed to the gills.

00:34:04 Brad Dowdy

Obviously, like at the peak times when we've been there, right, but understandably so so.

00:34:11 Brad Dowdy

You OK if I go into a kind of a I did like, uh, things to watch little note in my yeah notebook of kind of the things like my big.

00:34:20 Brad Dowdy

That was my big overview and now I've got some specifics of that.

00:34:22 Myke Hurley

OK.

00:34:23 Brad Dowdy

Some of my really interesting takeaways.

00:34:26 Brad Dowdy

Hines PIMCO, has turned it up to 11.

00:34:30 Brad Dowdy

Whatever they're doing, whatever gyms doing whatever Francisco's doing. They have gone like really all in right from seeing him for the first time at the Arkansas.

00:34:39 Myke Hurley

So how do you say it, Heinz?

00:34:40 Brad Dowdy

Then shifts I don't know.

00:34:42 Brad Dowdy

I don't.

00:34:43 Brad Dowdy

It's probably hands.

00:34:44 Myke Hurley

'cause it's not spelt like the beans.

00:34:45 Brad Dowdy

I'm terrible.

00:34:47 Brad Dowdy

No, it's chinzi yeah yeah.

00:34:50 Brad Dowdy

Sorry, Jim or Francisco will yell at me immediately after this and then we'll correct it next week.

00:34:55 Myke Hurley

'cause I would have said hints, but I don't know if I'm right either, you know?

00:34:59 Brad Dowdy

What I mean right, right and I've like interviewed Jim.

00:35:03 Brad Dowdy

And whose last name is HINZ. And so I know at some point I've known how to say it, but I've completely blanked on if.

00:35:10 Brad Dowdy

I'm saying it right anyway.

00:35:12

Right?

00:35:13 Brad Dowdy

When I first met them in Arkansas, probably like 2018, you know just getting started making pins small table, you know?

00:35:21 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, acrylic turning acrylic brought blanks and pens.

00:35:24 Brad Dowdy

I like what they did, what they're doing now is really leaning into like some of the storytelling aspects that I like.

00:35:30 Brad Dowdy

Hey, we're going to make this series of pens based on this theme, and here's why we're doing it and we think this is cool and we think this is fun.

00:35:36 Brad Dowdy

And here's the interesting, interesting materials with this.

00:35:39 Brad Dowdy

And here's the interesting hardware with this.

00:35:41 Brad Dowdy

And it's just on and on and on.

00:35:42 Brad Dowdy

It's not like, hey, here's this one series.

00:35:44 Brad Dowdy

It's like 5 different series at one time and I was just like looking at all this stuff going.

00:35:48 Brad Dowdy

Wow like it's I'm I'm really impressed and Jim I know really is kind of like the Craftsman contact for a lot of the other makers for like the technical aspects of like making things.

00:36:02 Brad Dowdy

Right and he does some really cool stuff and makes a lot of a lot of fun stuff, so I'm I'm definitely interested in in what they're doing.

00:36:10 Brad Dowdy

Stacy Robinson, who is a longtime Atlanta pen show vendor and local to Atlanta, does pins by design P&Z by design.

00:36:22 Brad Dowdy

Key this time.

00:36:22 Brad Dowdy

At this show, I don't know if he's had these in years past.

00:36:25 Brad Dowdy

I guess it's been three years since I've seen him and I've never bought anything from him before, but he had some acrylic pins that he made with these traditional materials.

00:36:34 Brad Dowdy

The one I bought was a Conway Stewart Material Pen and he had some ebonite pins, the

00:36:40 Brad Dowdy

Fit and finish of these pins was extraordinarily impressive.

00:36:45 Brad Dowdy

I think I will be talking a lot about his pins, and I know a lot of other people are Joe from the gentleman station or picks him up.

00:36:51 Brad Dowdy

I know a lot of people picked him up because they were just impressed with the craft craftsmanship and the price point was really really excellent.

00:36:59 Brad Dowdy

So I think.

00:37:00 Brad Dowdy

He's a I think he's going to and enjoy a little pinch O bump here because he had some really cool stuff to sell.

00:37:02

Right?

00:37:08 Brad Dowdy

The event of fantasy inks, the Shimmer inks.

00:37:10 Brad Dowdy

Bennes pens had them and I could hardly get my own bottles to test.

00:37:16 Brad Dowdy

You know vent is doing a really, really good job with their inks.

00:37:18 Brad Dowdy

I talk about them very positively.

00:37:21 Brad Dowdy

And they're kind of stepping on the gas a little bit, and these kind of new series of Shimmer inks are doing really well.

00:37:27 Brad Dowdy

Kind of everyone that was looking for inks was kind of going to Van Ness and finding those inks and getting those.

00:37:35 Brad Dowdy

Franklin, Christoph.

00:37:36 Brad Dowdy

I've bought my first Franklin Christoph pin and I don't know how many years.

00:37:39 Brad Dowdy

Probably since Toronto when I bought the Wonder Pen store exclusive.

00:37:43 Brad Dowdy

Aside from any pins that I've made for the pen addict, they have a color called Olivei which is this translucent olive green and it is just completely nuts color.

00:37:55 Brad Dowdy

Come in, it's a it's hard to explain.

00:37:58 Brad Dowdy

You just have to look at pictures of that.

00:37:59 Brad Dowdy

So that was kind of the popular Franklin Christoph pin.

00:38:02 Brad Dowdy

Like if you were going to Franklin, push off a lot of people were were coming away with that pin so I got to see a lot of those.

00:38:08 Brad Dowdy

The new pilot Irozuku links are here my.

00:38:12 Brad Dowdy

So they will be available on April 15th, so three new colors.

00:38:17 Brad Dowdy

Pirated pilot of Russia zoinks.

00:38:20 Brad Dowdy

Uh will be available.

00:38:22 Brad Dowdy

I got to meet.

00:38:23 Brad Dowdy

So this is the funniest funniest stuff thing.

00:38:27 Brad Dowdy

So it's like 11.

00:38:28 Brad Dowdy

15 Saturday morning I'm making the rounds like I.

00:38:32 Brad Dowdy

I'm starting to make the rounds early because I want to make sure to talk to everybody before I go.

00:38:37 Brad Dowdy

And knowing that, I have like a heart out at 12 like I have to.

00:38:40 Brad Dowdy

Be on the.

00:38:41 Brad Dowdy

Road at 12.

00:38:42 Brad Dowdy

So it's like 11:15 and I'm kind of ramp. Winding it down and I'm walking out of this one room.

00:38:49 Brad Dowdy

And here comes this guy in a suit who I hadn't seen.

00:38:52 Brad Dowdy

All show walks up to me.

00:38:54 Brad Dowdy

Brad hey, this is Frank from narwhal.

00:38:57 Brad Dowdy

Like how are you?

00:38:58 Brad Dowdy

I'm like Oh my God Frank like I've never talked to Frank online but like I've never met him in person.

00:39:04 Brad Dowdy

And like he goes to shows and he's had tables at some of the other shows, but he didn't have a table here, so he had just like flown in and it just like walked into the show like basically right when I was walking out.

00:39:15 Brad Dowdy

So I got to talk to Frank for a minute and.

00:39:17 Brad Dowdy

I'm going to.

00:39:17 Brad Dowdy

Try to talk to him more down the line.

00:39:20 Brad Dowdy

I said, you know, I told him. Obviously, you know, I'd love to spend 1/2 an hour with you, but.

00:39:24 Brad Dowdy

Like I'm 5 minutes away from having to leave and he's like, Oh yeah, no, totally no.

00:39:28 Brad Dowdy

Problem and so I got his card, so we're going to talk soon, but I thought that was that was pretty cool to like the see Frank like right at the last minute as I was walking out.

00:39:38 Brad Dowdy

So that was that was pretty funny.

00:39:39 Brad Dowdy

So that was kind of like my my big picture and my my little picture take away just from like the stuff and the things that I enjoyed seeing.

00:39:48 Brad Dowdy

There so uhm, yeah it was a very good very successful show for me, Justin.

00:39:56 Brad Dowdy

Getting back in that environment, seeing.

00:39:59 Brad Dowdy

All the people that I wanted to see getting to check out some new products and dumb, you know getting to see like all these new grinders that I haven't worked with before and just all of that stuff was like super super fun to me.

00:40:11 Brad Dowdy

And it was.

00:40:14 Brad Dowdy

A great experience like and we haven't even talked about like the best stuff, which is like the after hours stuff.

00:40:20 Brad Dowdy

Which we'll get to here in a minute.

00:40:22 Brad Dowdy

But just like the show itself was really good Atlanta pen show Joe Tom, like it was, it was great.

00:40:31 Brad Dowdy

I I thoroughly enjoyed it.

00:40:33 Myke Hurley

Alright, I wanna dig into a few more bits of this.

00:40:36 Myke Hurley

We've got 'cause I have a few more things.

00:40:38 Myke Hurley

That intrigued about all right?

00:40:39 Myke Hurley

But let's take our second break and do that.

00:40:41 Myke Hurley

And let's thank Harris for their support of this weeks episode.

00:40:44 Myke Hurley

Having a daily routine can really help set up your day for success.

00:40:48 Myke Hurley

Brad, how does Harris fit into your morning routine?

00:40:51 Brad Dowdy

Well, let me tell you how it fit into my Atlanta pen show.

00:40:53 Brad Dowdy

Routine health at Mike.

00:40:53 Myke Hurley

Perfect yes please.

00:40:55 Brad Dowdy

The hairy Dopp kit is that even on sale that is my two go to travel kit and I rarely get to use it 'cause I'm rarely on the road.

00:41:03 Brad Dowdy

Staying away from home, but I packed that up in that travel kit is my hairy razor.

00:41:08 Brad Dowdy

My hairy blades, my Harris, a little protector so I don't cut myself when I pick it.

00:41:13 Brad Dowdy

Pick up the razor blindly out of the Dopp kit.

00:41:16 Brad Dowdy

My hairy shave gel.

00:41:17 Brad Dowdy

All of that travels with me.

00:41:19 Brad Dowdy

Went with me to the Atlanta Pen show, kept me looking sharp the entire event.

00:41:23 Brad Dowdy

Mike, thank you Harris.

00:41:25 Myke Hurley

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00:41:35 Myke Hurley

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00:41:57 Myke Hurley

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00:42:34 Myke Hurley

We're gonna play a game now, Brad.

00:42:37 Brad Dowdy

OK, I like games.

00:42:38 Myke Hurley

Right, we're going to call this dip grab by.

00:42:40 Myke Hurley

OK so?

00:42:42 Myke Hurley

You already spoiled one.

00:42:43 Myke Hurley

You bought 'cause I saw this.

00:42:45 Myke Hurley

I saw, you know I've been following.

00:42:46 Myke Hurley

I was feverishly following your Instagram.

00:42:49 Brad Dowdy

Ah, that's a whole conversation.

00:42:49 Myke Hurley

Over the weekend.

00:42:50 Brad Dowdy

We can have like it is so hard to like.

00:42:52 Brad Dowdy

Take pictures and post pictures when you're just having a fun time talking with people, right?

00:42:57 Brad Dowdy

So I might have to do like a photo dump on Instagram here sometime this week.

00:43:02

And you.

00:43:02 Myke Hurley

Posted a couple of pictures that would.

00:43:04 Myke Hurley

Just seeming to indicate that there have been a bit of a.

00:43:07 Myke Hurley

Cool going on.

00:43:10 Myke Hurley

Alright, so we know you got a Franklin Christoph.

00:43:12 Myke Hurley

We know that much and I'm looking at.

00:43:14 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, about the olivei.

00:43:15 Myke Hurley

Yeah, they that was the one right?

00:43:18 Myke Hurley

The one that the green one.

00:43:18 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, model 46, so they had it in different shapes about the Model 46 which I don't have a model 46.

00:43:24 Brad Dowdy

It's a very kind of straight barrel. Little taper in the cap, just a real super. I like the Super clean designs of something like the 46, so yes about that.

00:43:35 Myke Hurley

So I look at your pictures and I see it.

00:43:37 Myke Hurley

Goes some clothes.

00:43:38 Myke Hurley

Right, OK, OK, so I see an esterbrook box.

00:43:43 Myke Hurley

Shannon Estabrook, Brad.

00:43:45 Brad Dowdy

So I think we need to clarify this game, Mike.

00:43:49 Brad Dowdy

So I bought a lot of stuff.

00:43:51 Brad Dowdy

Did I buy it for me or did I buy it for, you know, ulterior motives.

00:43:56 Myke Hurley

So for you, at some point you know.

00:43:59 Brad Dowdy

So it's for me to use for things so Esterbrook there were two esterbrook pens that were purchased and an esterbrook nib that was purchased, so I went.

00:44:10 Myke Hurley

Oh, OK.

00:44:12 Brad Dowdy

I went for the needle point, right, the needle point was the product that I was going for, right?

00:44:18 Brad Dowdy

That was on my list.

00:44:19 Brad Dowdy

Was nib work from.

00:44:23 Brad Dowdy

For my Lamy safari in pilot custom 74 and a loose esterbrook needlepoint nib acquired that nib so the question was was I going to acquire a pen to put this new needlepoint nib in and I went into it thinking no like I'm happy with my estabrooks

00:44:43 Brad Dowdy

I have and I can just slot it into one of those, right?

00:44:45 Brad Dowdy

That's what I do.

00:44:46 Brad Dowdy

That's exactly why I got the Lamy safari nib because I use safari a lot.

00:44:50 Brad Dowdy

I'll have my one nib that I moved from PEN dependents.

00:44:53 Brad Dowdy

I use them so did I need another esterbrook pen?

00:44:55 Brad Dowdy

No, but I heard rumor had it Mike that.

00:45:00 Brad Dowdy

But Kenro is now bringing Esterbrook and other brand prototypes to the show of either a test run of a material to see if it's going to be.

00:45:16 Brad Dowdy

A future product.

00:45:17 Myke Hurley

That's the Franklin Christoph model, right?

00:45:19 Myke Hurley

Like that's what they did and found that great success with.

00:45:19 Brad Dowdy

Yeah yeah, but.

00:45:22 Myke Hurley

Willingness I think.

00:45:23 Brad Dowdy

Yep, but at a much smaller scale like a single folio of prototype.

00:45:28 Brad Dowdy

Pins, and there was one on there that was.

00:45:31 Myke Hurley

I imagine like he's gonna go.

00:45:32 Brad Dowdy

Scroll up and.

00:45:34 Myke Hurley

You gotta find you gotta find carrying me like you got like.

00:45:37 Myke Hurley

About this stuff.

00:45:38 Myke Hurley

You know, imagine it's a situation like that.

00:45:38 Brad Dowdy

Yep, Yep you got the goods you got the.

00:45:40 Brad Dowdy

Goods I know.

00:45:41 Brad Dowdy

So Kerry wasn't there this weekend.

00:45:43 Brad Dowdy

I'm going to get him get on him for that.

00:45:43 Myke Hurley

Oh, OK.

00:45:44 Brad Dowdy

I think he was a little busy according.

00:45:46 Brad Dowdy

To his Instagram so.

00:45:47 Brad Dowdy

I'll, I'll give him a, give him a yell later, but I I know Neil and Denean who have worked there forever as well so.

00:45:55 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, so I saw this.

00:45:57 Brad Dowdy

Esterbrook prototype I have not taken a picture of it yet, Mike.

00:46:01 Brad Dowdy

It's A Knockout.

00:46:02 Myke Hurley

OK.

00:46:02 Brad Dowdy

Like it is a really really me pin.

00:46:05 Brad Dowdy

It's pointless for me to describe it because there's it doesn't exist, right?

00:46:09 Brad Dowdy

It's like a one of one type of prototype.

00:46:11 Brad Dowdy

Or maybe it's coming later on who knows.

00:46:12 Brad Dowdy

I think these are things that aren't going to exist, but it was like a test so I will take some pictures.

00:46:18 Brad Dowdy

A lot of this stuff I turned around.

00:46:21 Brad Dowdy

From the Atlanta Pen show.

00:46:22 Brad Dowdy

Had my daughter prom events the night after I got home and then left the next morning for vacation.

00:46:28 Brad Dowdy

So a lot of this stuff didn't even come with me on on my trip.

00:46:31 Brad Dowdy

It's sitting at home waiting for me to to ink up.

00:46:34 Brad Dowdy

This one did though, so I'll have to see if I can take a good picture of it.

00:46:37 Brad Dowdy

But it's basically a.

00:46:39 Brad Dowdy

It's a.

00:46:39 Brad Dowdy

It's another diamond cast material.

00:46:41 Brad Dowdy

You know, with like the sparkles in it, but it's very.

00:46:43 Brad Dowdy

It's very lightly dusted and it's a blue and white swirl that came out.

00:46:49 Brad Dowdy

Kind of amazing.

00:46:49 Brad Dowdy

Think of it like an ocean wave type of crashing situation with a little bit of sparkle in it.

00:46:53 Brad Dowdy

And I put the needlepoint in there.

00:46:55 Brad Dowdy

The second one I got is the Esterbrook candy is a new mainline esterbrook that just launched the day of the PEN show.

00:47:03 Brad Dowdy

So I bought that one for a future giveaway.

00:47:05 Brad Dowdy

It's a kind of a Unicorn, Y pink and purple and sparkly and gold and stuff like that.

00:47:10 Brad Dowdy

So it's called candy so you can find that one online.

00:47:13 Brad Dowdy

So I bought.

00:47:15 Brad Dowdy

Two Esterbrook scenester Brooklyn.

00:47:17 Myke Hurley

OK.

00:47:19 Myke Hurley

Does a couple of Carolina pen Co.

00:47:21 Myke Hurley

Things with.

00:47:22 Brad Dowdy

God, I really ruined it with that picture.

00:47:24 Myke Hurley

Yeah, 'cause I can just see it all.

00:47:26 Myke Hurley

I mean what do you want from me, you know?

00:47:29 Brad Dowdy

So I bought 2 pins from Jonathan, one for me, one for other uses.

00:47:38 Brad Dowdy

The one for other usage.

00:47:40 Brad Dowdy

I bought a mat.

00:47:42 Brad Dowdy

One of his materials and a matte finish, which I don't have, and I think people will enjoy those matte finishes, so I thought it might be a good giveaway pin.

00:47:53 Brad Dowdy

An undetermined date down the line.

00:47:56 Brad Dowdy

Uhm, I bought for me a very I asked Jonathan.

00:48:00 Brad Dowdy

I was like what do I need to see right?

00:48:03 Brad Dowdy

When you're familiar with someone work and they're extremely creative, like Jonathan, he's like he's like the the the Michelin 3 star chef, right?

00:48:11 Brad Dowdy

You're just just make me the thing.

00:48:13 Myke Hurley

Oh my God, that's so perfect.

00:48:14 Brad Dowdy

Right?

00:48:15 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, it's just I trust you.

00:48:16 Myke Hurley

Yeah, he's the like he is the Michelin chef of pen making.

00:48:21 Myke Hurley

I love it.

00:48:21 Brad Dowdy

Right so.

00:48:22 Brad Dowdy

What do I need to see?

00:48:24 Brad Dowdy

It's just like you don't order.

00:48:26 Brad Dowdy

You just say cook me the thing and that's what.

00:48:29 Brad Dowdy

We're going to guess.

00:48:29 Myke Hurley

Go for a tasting menu.

00:48:31 Myke Hurley

You know you just trust the chef.

00:48:31 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, yeah.

00:48:32 Myke Hurley

However, the chef intends you say you know.

00:48:35 Brad Dowdy

So, so he knows me and I know him.

00:48:39 Brad Dowdy

And he picked up this pen and put it in my hand.

00:48:43 Brad Dowdy

And that was it, like it was absolutely correct for what I wanted.

00:48:46 Brad Dowdy

And it was, you know, correct for him to to show that to me what it is is one of those extremely dark material pens that when you hit it with light, shows everything.

00:48:57 Brad Dowdy

Thing right so from 5 feet away it looks like a black pin with maybe like a hint of color, but up close it is like a kaleidoscope so.

00:49:07 Myke Hurley

I'm fine.

00:49:08 Brad Dowdy

It's one of those pins I will have to take, like special photos, especially lit photos to show it off.

00:49:14 Brad Dowdy

It was he didn't call it an accident, but it was basically like a test.

00:49:19 Brad Dowdy

Again, this is where I where I get in trouble.

00:49:21 Brad Dowdy

At pin shows you can see the things that I've bought so far these kind of 1 off type of productions right because?

00:49:26 Myke Hurley

Yeah, 'cause you gotta you gotta hide his Heinz Pen as well, which I had assumed you would.

00:49:31 Myke Hurley

And then there's something in black just like a black sleeve.

00:49:35 Brad Dowdy

Well, that's a mythic.

00:49:36 Brad Dowdy

Pins in the black sleeve, but there is a Heinz pin as well, so I I haven't.

00:49:43 Brad Dowdy

We've I apparently have bought everything so far so.

00:49:46 Myke Hurley

Well, you see, now here's, but we've got some.

00:49:46 Brad Dowdy

But yeah, but.

00:49:48 Myke Hurley

We've got some mystery, right?

00:49:49 Myke Hurley

There's a, there's a drumgole bag, a big red drum bag, yeah?

00:49:53 Brad Dowdy

Oh yeah.

00:49:56 Brad Dowdy

There's a lot of stuff in there.

00:49:56 Myke Hurley

Did you buy?

00:50:00 Myke Hurley

Some version of Sailor King of Pen from Dragon.

00:50:07 Myke Hurley

No, I thought it was going to.

00:50:09 Myke Hurley

Be a yeah So what?

00:50:11 Brad Dowdy

But you were close, you're close.

00:50:13 Brad Dowdy

You should keep keep.

00:50:13 Myke Hurley

Am I?

00:50:14 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, you should continue somehow related to your your question.

00:50:18 Myke Hurley

So this is Sailor.

00:50:22 Myke Hurley

Did you get the gum?

00:50:24 Myke Hurley

To 2022 limited edition, the soda pop one.

00:50:28 Brad Dowdy

No, but it was there.

00:50:28 Myke Hurley

OK.

00:50:29 Brad Dowdy

It's very nice.

00:50:30 Myke Hurley

OK.

00:50:31 Brad Dowdy

So I went a slightly older and I bought the habanero.

00:50:34 Myke Hurley

OK.

00:50:38 Myke Hurley

Oh interesting, you know with the little chili pepper then.

00:50:38 Brad Dowdy

Which is solid orange cap orange translucent barrel.

00:50:44 Brad Dowdy

The reason why I bought it and you know, didn't buy it online.

00:50:48 Brad Dowdy

Or or didn't necessarily like jump through hoops to get it.

00:50:52 Brad Dowdy

I'm sure they're still available in some places, as this one had an extra fine nib on it and they don't.

00:50:59 Brad Dowdy

That's usually one of the lower quantity items, and that's obviously probably why they still have it in stock, because sailors extra fines are really really extra fine.

00:51:08 Brad Dowdy

And if it was sitting there, habanero with a medium nib, I wouldn't have bought it right like I just don't need that, but I don't have a lot.

00:51:12 Myke Hurley

OK.

00:51:15 Brad Dowdy

I maybe have like one other sailor extra fine nib, and of course I love that pen, but I just didn't need that pen, but that extra fine nib and the.

00:51:24 Brad Dowdy

You know issue of standing right there, staring at it instead of like through a computer screen and having to put in your credit card information.

00:51:31 Brad Dowdy

And you know already buying other things there.

00:51:34 Brad Dowdy

The extra fine is what set it over the top to me.

00:51:38 Brad Dowdy

So that was kind of the one.

00:51:42 Brad Dowdy

Standard issue pin.

00:51:43 Brad Dowdy

Right regularly available at Retail Pen Reno until it wasn't right.

00:51:47 Brad Dowdy

It was limited, but it was very accessible.

00:51:50 Brad Dowdy

Where are these other pins that I've bought or like?

00:51:53 Brad Dowdy

You know, like the esterbrook and.

00:51:55 Brad Dowdy

Brooks, his pen like he'd like Brooks did, did me like he did you.

00:51:59 Brad Dowdy

He's like I'm not making any more of this.

00:52:01 Brad Dowdy

I said, well, what's it called?

00:52:02 Brad Dowdy

Like if I write about it, he's like I don't.

00:52:04 Brad Dowdy

It doesn't have a name.

00:52:05 Brad Dowdy

You can name it great great.

00:52:05 Myke Hurley

Yes, great, so there's a problem with that.

00:52:08

But what I would?

00:52:09 Myke Hurley

This is a consistent yes, similar to what he said to me, but then he I think he was stuck making sky at night forever.

00:52:15 Brad Dowdy

That's what I told him.

00:52:16 Brad Dowdy

He said, well, I he's, that's exactly what I said 'cause I said, if I do that, it's going to be a problem for you.

00:52:23 Brad Dowdy

And he's like no, it won't because.

00:52:25 Brad Dowdy

I don't have the recipe for this one anymore.

00:52:28 Brad Dowdy

So he can't recreate it exactly.

00:52:32 Myke Hurley

How is that?

00:52:33 Brad Dowdy

The case I don't know, I don't.

00:52:35 Myke Hurley

Know I mean, who can argue with the Michelin star right you?

00:52:35 Brad Dowdy

That's what it is.

00:52:38 Brad Dowdy

Know what I mean, yeah, but that's what I said.

00:52:40 Brad Dowdy

I said well, no I'm not going to name it because then you're going to have to make it so you do it and he's like no, that's not going to be made because I can't.

00:52:50 Brad Dowdy

I'm like great.

00:52:51 Brad Dowdy

'cause I'm totally taking pictures and sharing this pen right?

00:52:55 Brad Dowdy

And I have a name in mind, but I'm not going to share it until I come.

00:52:59 Brad Dowdy

Until I post pictures of so.

00:53:00 Myke Hurley

It well, but even if you don't name it, it will just be referred to us.

00:53:02 Myke Hurley

You know the.

00:53:03 Myke Hurley

One that Brad has that you didn't give a name to or not.

00:53:04 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna name it and he's just gonna have.

00:53:06 Brad Dowdy

To deal with it, and I tell him.

00:53:07 Myke Hurley

Yes, that's that's his problem, you know, Yep.

00:53:10 Brad Dowdy

That's his problem at this point, so.

00:53:11 Myke Hurley

He could have named it like a really bad name.

00:53:13 Myke Hurley

They give him like a really bad name and then they won't want it, you know?

00:53:14 Brad Dowdy

Yeah yeah, yeah.

00:53:16 Brad Dowdy

Like the Jonathan Brooks, you know, poop emoji or something?

00:53:19 Myke Hurley

There you go.

00:53:19 Brad Dowdy

I don't know.

00:53:20 Myke Hurley

I knew you were going there.

00:53:21 Myke Hurley

Uh, so obviously I've seen some pictures are.

00:53:24 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, yeah.

00:53:24 Myke Hurley

It's their stuff.

00:53:26 Myke Hurley

That you have the I haven't guessed yet.

00:53:29 Myke Hurley

Did you get anything else?

00:53:32 Brad Dowdy

Uh, pens, let's see.

00:53:35 Brad Dowdy

So I got mythic pins, so Brad was there.

00:53:38 Brad Dowdy

I got a really cool.

00:53:40 Brad Dowdy

I think it's uh, turn pen company is the material that he used in a shape of the mythic pins.

00:53:46 Brad Dowdy

I have to look up the shape and like we can like we can do like a deep dive on like the products.

00:53:50 Brad Dowdy

Next week I'm going to do that.

00:53:52 Brad Dowdy

For Members this weekend and the newsletter takes all the pictures and do a deep dive on the products so I have to get the material name in the barrel shape and it's different from the barrel shape that Brad originally sent me and I think I might prefer this barrel shape a little bit more so I like that.

00:54:08 Brad Dowdy

Something I saw that I didn't buy.

00:54:11 Brad Dowdy

It was just a one off again that's what attracts me.

00:54:13 Brad Dowdy

Brian from iron feather.

00:54:15 Brad Dowdy

Creative people who followed like any of the Atlanta Pen Show Pictures, probably saw a picture of a shown design brass pocket six that Brian had etched.

00:54:24 Brad Dowdy

And so Brian is the one.

00:54:26 Brad Dowdy

That does a lot of really, really cool.

00:54:29 Brad Dowdy

Design work on Pin so he'll make pins like standard pins, and then he'll do like.

00:54:35 Brad Dowdy

The jewelry work for the.

00:54:37 Brad Dowdy

Roll stops and he'll do like barrel etchings on the pin itself and what he did with the shown design pocket.

00:54:46 Brad Dowdy

Six was he made kind of this swirl floral pattern.

00:54:52 Brad Dowdy

I don't know how.

00:54:53 Brad Dowdy

He did it, but this is what artisans do.

00:54:57 Brad Dowdy

So the pattern.

00:55:00 Brad Dowdy

Lines up when the pin is capped.

00:55:03 Brad Dowdy

And then you uncap the pin, screw it on the back and it lines up again and it shouldn't by gets purposefully done.

00:55:11 Brad Dowdy

To like he's just, you know, manage the pattern design and created it beforehand to line up in two different orientations.

00:55:19 Brad Dowdy

And it's really freaking wild, so I did not buy that someone did and I'll have to figure out who because it is a really, really cool pin.

00:55:27 Brad Dowdy

I bought a bunch of inks.

00:55:29 Brad Dowdy

I got diventa samples.

00:55:30 Brad Dowdy

The fairy tale ink samples.

00:55:32 Brad Dowdy

I got the Lamy safari, strawberries and cream.

00:55:37 Brad Dowdy

I bought 2 orange inks that I had not seen one of them before.

00:55:41 Brad Dowdy

Manganese orange from Mont Blanc, which is not a copycat of lucky orange.

00:55:48 Brad Dowdy

You know we've talked about Mont Blanc doing the copycats of the same names, similar colors and or exact same colors, different names.

00:55:54 Brad Dowdy

This is not.

00:55:55 Myke Hurley

Honestly, I consider that a great shame.

00:55:58 Myke Hurley

Stay with popping out that ink 'cause I'm starting to run low and I'm worried I'm not going to be able to get it anymore.

00:56:06 Brad Dowdy

So that's why I bought the second orange ink which was Pelikan Edelstein Mandarin, which was one of the original Edelstein launchings, and it's still available, but it's not exactly easy to find, and I never got it, and it's always been a really, really solid orange ink, so I picked that up for myself.

00:56:25 Brad Dowdy

I bought UM.

00:56:29 Brad Dowdy

All of the and aurillium inks, so those will be out here being tested at some point.

00:56:34 Brad Dowdy

They had two series of eight inks, so there was a, uh, cephalopod series and then an aviary series.

00:56:44 Brad Dowdy

So we'll be reviewing those.

00:56:46 Brad Dowdy

So I bought a.

00:56:47 Brad Dowdy

Bunch of stuff for.

00:56:47 Brad Dowdy

Review right?

00:56:48 Myke Hurley

Yeah, yeah.

00:56:48 Brad Dowdy

So a lot of stuff.

00:56:49 Brad Dowdy

Like that I bought some of the Odyssey notebooks which are 68 GSM come over. They came up a lot of people were talking about them after the Baltimore Show and John from lemur Ink picked up a bunch of stock from there. So I bought a bunch of those to test out and give.

00:57:04 Brad Dowdy

Way that was kind of the only paper I bought. I bought some hobonichi A5 grid notebooks with tomorrow river paper and I'm just, you know.

00:57:14 Brad Dowdy

Non planner style just you know straight up notebooks which I thought were pretty neat.

00:57:19 Brad Dowdy

You don't.

00:57:20 Brad Dowdy

You have to generally have to order those from the 11.

00:57:22 Brad Dowdy

01 site in Japan. Unless some of the vendors carry them, which I was able to get at dromgoole's.

00:57:28 Brad Dowdy

Uhm, what else that's?

00:57:30 Brad Dowdy

I mean, there's going to be a lot I have to go through.

00:57:32 Brad Dowdy

There's literally bags and bags of stuff I went.

00:57:34 Brad Dowdy

Kind of bezerk Mike.

00:57:36 Brad Dowdy

It was like the very first thing I I said like after my first couple purchases like whose idea was this to let me loose at up in show after two years not being at one 'cause.

00:57:46 Brad Dowdy

I kind of I kind of.

00:57:48 Brad Dowdy

Went unhinged with the credit card.

00:57:49 Myke Hurley

Oh, I look forward to my return buddy.

00:57:51 Myke Hurley

I'm gonna still be like pencho number one over here for me.

00:57:55 Brad Dowdy

Right?

00:57:56 Myke Hurley

I'm walking around like I'm just gonna go take a walk come back arms full you know.

00:58:00 Brad Dowdy

That's what it was like.

00:58:01 Brad Dowdy

I need to go see if my room is ready because I can no longer carry these things.

00:58:07 Myke Hurley

Well, I can't wait.

00:58:07 Brad Dowdy

And that was not the plan going in.

00:58:09 Brad Dowdy

I was trying to be managed and metered and that I like I failed like I'll just straight up tell y'all.

00:58:15 Brad Dowdy

I failed at any like management of of anything, so I have a lot more to discuss.

00:58:22 Brad Dowdy

I have pins that I haven't even mentioned yet that I need to go through.

00:58:27 Brad Dowdy

And figure out what I have.

00:58:28 Brad Dowdy

I have tons of like giveaway items and tons.

00:58:30 Brad Dowdy

Of new products.

00:58:32 Brad Dowdy

And it was fun, Mike, like it was great.

00:58:35 Myke Hurley

I look forward to getting through that over the next couple of weeks.

00:58:38 Myke Hurley

I think anything else you wanted to mention about the Penn show, like how, what was the vibe like in the evening and stuff.

00:58:44 Brad Dowdy

It was great, so the Atlanta Penco again.

00:58:47 Brad Dowdy

The bar situation there is pretty small right, generally speaking, compared to some of the bigger open bars.

00:58:53 Brad Dowdy

Even at like a small show like Philadelphia, they have a huge open bar area.

00:58:56 Brad Dowdy

Atlanta is kind of smaller and segmented out, but it was packed to the gills.

00:59:01 Brad Dowdy

Everyone that came to just like hang out and test pins.

00:59:04 Brad Dowdy

And chill out.

00:59:05 Brad Dowdy

I had smiles on their faces.

00:59:07 Brad Dowdy

They had a good time.

00:59:08 Brad Dowdy

It was just really really fun.

00:59:10 Brad Dowdy

Kind of our our hangout time afterwards.

00:59:13 Brad Dowdy

You know we had the the Friday afternoon cookout that Jimmy puts on for all the weekend passholders and vendors was absolutely.

00:59:24 Brad Dowdy

Jam packed to the hilt.

00:59:25 Brad Dowdy

I don't know that I've seen that was pretty much like standing room only for tables, which was great.

00:59:30 Brad Dowdy

I mean, there had to be. I've got one picture. I don't know that had well over 100 people, probably gosh more than that.

00:59:36 Brad Dowdy

It was a zoo in like the nicest way possible.

00:59:39 Brad Dowdy

Everyone you know, go sit at tables.

00:59:41 Brad Dowdy

Got to hang out with people.

00:59:42 Brad Dowdy

Got to, you know, mingle and you know.

00:59:45 Brad Dowdy

Eat hamburgers and hot dogs and.

00:59:47 Brad Dowdy

Drink, have a few beverages and hang out by the pool. We had perfect weather, right? Like we've been years where the weather's been nasty.

00:59:54 Brad Dowdy

Well, we had absolutely.

00:59:55 Brad Dowdy

Ideal weather everyone had the best time and then we just migrated into the bar until they finally turned the lights on out on us about 1111 thirty and called it at night.

01:00:03 Brad Dowdy

And it could not have been better.

01:00:05 Brad Dowdy

I love seeing all my friends, my Pinchot friends, that.

01:00:07 Brad Dowdy

I haven't seen in a while, yeah.

01:00:09 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, you know.

01:00:09 Brad Dowdy

Like you know, Catherine and.

01:00:14 Brad Dowdy

You know getting to hang out with like Brooks and Kirk Speer at the at the bar and you know.

01:00:20 Brad Dowdy

And just talking about knit, like getting to test out nibs and paper I don't.

01:00:23 Brad Dowdy

Know it was.

01:00:24 Brad Dowdy

Packed, I'll, I'll forget all the names you know Sandra, bringing all of the the sweets and cupcakes and cookies.

01:00:29 Brad Dowdy

You know keeping us all all amped up on sugar.

01:00:32 Brad Dowdy

Was great, it was great.

01:00:33 Brad Dowdy

We had a really, really, really, genuinely great time.

01:00:38 Myke Hurley

Well, I should say I look forward to hearing more over the next few weeks.

01:00:41 Myke Hurley

Uhm, about some of the pens and stuff that you've been picking up.

01:00:45 Brad Dowdy

Yep, Yep, I have a lot to do when I get back home and I'm looking forward to it.

01:00:50 Brad Dowdy

I literally just I walked in.

01:00:52 Brad Dowdy

I put the bags on my desk and they're still sitting there and then I left pretty much.

01:00:56 Brad Dowdy

I didn't see anything afterwards so I inked up a couple pins, but I have a lot to go through so we'll talk more about that next week.

01:01:03 Myke Hurley

Alright, if you want to catch show notes for this week's episode of putting a bunch of links. Some of the vendors and stuff that Brad was talking about, you can go to relay dot FM slash pen addict Slash 508 if you want to find Brad Online, you can go to go to Instagram, go check out all the photos he was posting from the from the pen show you go to instagram.com/pen addict.

01:01:23 Myke Hurley

He's at Pen Hampton Instagram.

01:01:24 Brad Dowdy

I'll have more up there this week.

01:01:26 Brad Dowdy

I'm oh oh good.

01:01:26 Brad Dowdy

Some of the things we talked about.

01:01:28 Brad Dowdy

Yeah, I haven't even come close to putting.

01:01:29 Brad Dowdy

Everything up there from the show good.

01:01:31 Brad Dowdy

I look forward to.

01:01:32 Myke Hurley

He's at Dowdy ISM on Twitter. Brad usually streams few times a week at twitch.tv/pen Alex. It started back up next week, 'cause you're away with it.

01:01:40 Brad Dowdy

Next week will be full schedule next week.

01:01:42 Brad Dowdy

No streams this week.

01:01:44 Myke Hurley

Go to panic.com, check everything that's there. I am I, Mike I am YK.

01:01:50 Myke Hurley

E Thanks again to our sponsors for this week's episode, the Fine People at Pen Chalet and Harris two and we'll be back next time. Until then, say goodbye, Brad.

01:01:59 Brad Dowdy

Goodbye, Brad.