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The Pen Addict Podcast Transcript
Episode:	134
Title:	It's a Gateway Edition
Release Date:	December 22nd, 2014
Hosts:	Brad Dowdy Myke Hurley
Guests:	No guests this episode
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Official page:	Episode 134
Audio File:	Audio Episode 134
Podcast page:	The Pen Addict 134
Length:	6161 min <br />1.017 h <br /> minutes
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Myke Hurley: From RelayFM, this is The Pen Addict, episode 134. Today's show is brought to you by Pen Chalet, great deals on high quality pens of a 100% satisfaction guarantee, and Dash, where you can create beautiful dashboards with just a few clicks, and we have something very special from Dash a little later on in the show. My name is Myke Hurley and I have the pleasure every week of introducing Mr. Brad Dowdy.

Brad Dowdy: Hey Myke, how's it going?

Myke Hurley: Happy holidays to you, sir.

Brad Dowdy: Happy holidays. This is our Christmas week episode, so happy holidays to everyone. Hope everyone has an awesome week and gets loads of pen and paper goodness this week. And hopefully they share it with us too. I'm sure they will.

Myke Hurley: I hope so. I think if there's one thing we know about our audience is they like to share.

Brad Dowdy: Yes. Oh man, they're so good. They're so good. They shared so much after last week's episode. This bag episode was a hit, apparently.

Myke Hurley: Yes.

Brad Dowdy: I got so many tweets and emails and follow-ups. It'll probably be trickling in over the next few weeks, but I did want to mention real quick, there were a couple of bag companies that popped up. You know, everything couldn't make the cut last week. It was such a long episode, and I talked about so many different vendors, and a couple that I wanted to get to that I didn't last week, primarily Rickshaw Bag Works. I got a bunch of comments. Basically, I can't believe you left Rickshaw off, and it wasn't on purpose. I actually own a Rickshaw folio for a Moleskine folio that they make. It's really, really good. So, excuse me, I wanted to give Rickshaw Bag Works a special shout-out because a bunch of our listeners are apparently fans of their products. Are you familiar with them, Myke? I probably talked about them, you know, 100 episodes ago when I bought that folio.

Myke Hurley: I've heard of them a bunch of times. They're one that comes up with Tom Bin, you know? You hear Rickshaw and Tom Bin quite a lot. And, yeah, so I have heard of them. It was like a lot of the bag companies that we spoke about last week. I'd heard of a bunch of them, but just kind of forgot about them at the same time.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah, and Rickshaw is one of those companies where you can, if you find a product that suits your needs, you can customize the build of it. So you can, you know, pick out all the panel colors and the piping colors and the binding colors and all of that stuff and pick out all your different materials. So it's really cool how you can go through and build some of your products. And I've actually checked them out. Their founder, he's really open about their business model. And they do a lot of images and pictures from their factory. So I've taken a keen interest in what they're doing from the not perspective. Oh, okay. And, you know, seeing how all the manufacturing goes. So, big fan of the Rickshaw. A couple more. Dispatch, which is spelled dispatch without any vowels.

Brad Dowdy: They, also a San Francisco bag company. I've seen some of their bags before. They just look like really, really solid, durable, clean design. Very nice bags. I think it was Doug Lane that sent me this as a reminder. And I was definitely familiar with what Dispatch did before. And also, FreeTag, which I'm not sure if I'm exactly pronouncing that right, Myke. But our friend of the show, J. Robert Lennon, sent me this probably a couple months ago. I forget what we were even talking about at the time. But they use a lot of recycled products and make some really, really interesting messenger bags, backpacks, totes. They're super expensive, though. All the FreeTag goods. But I'm not sure. They, when we mentioned that, though, when John mentioned that, we had a lot of people chiming in on how good the FreeTag stuff is. So, that's very interesting.

Myke Hurley: Yeah, I mean, lots of people were, well, a bunch of people hated on us because we were making them spend more money. And another thing, lots of people were kind of sending in, like, their bags or agreeing with some of our descriptions and things like that. So, it was definitely a normal episode, but with a little bit extra.

Brad Dowdy: We were loved and reviled at the same time.

Myke Hurley: Pretty much how it always goes with this show.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah.

Myke Hurley: Yeah.

Brad Dowdy: So, yeah. And I'm sure we'll have more as people continue to listen to the episode. So, keep sending us all your bag stuff. And I'm not going to lie. The last thing I need is another bag right now. But I've been looking a lot. And I've been playing around with some of the Tom Benz stuff because you can kind of mix and match your colors there, too, to make some of the bags. But anyway, so there'll be more bag news and notes as we carry on throughout the years on the Pen Addict slash Bag Addict podcast. Back on the pen front, there is, I don't know what you call these blogs that Gawker does. They're like all these sub-blogs. And this one's called Domesticity. Domesticity. How would you pronounce this? Domesticity. There you go. Domesticity, yeah. Domesticity. So, it's like a sub-blog in the Gawker network, which, you know, Gawker. Yeah. But, yeah. They made a – this was sent to me a bunch. They did a post on domesticity. What is the best pen? And it really didn't solve anything. And it was just kind of an interesting post, and it was good to get shared around. But this is, like, straight up out the Office Max shelves. You know, what is the best pen? You know, Pilot G2 and Paper Mate Flare and Pilot Precise V5. But what's always found interesting about these posts is actually it usually gets off the rails in the comments section. And there's already almost 700 comments about pens in this. And a lot of people are, you know, on the same bandwagon as the original author of the post is, you know, just the basic pens. But then you start getting to people like, where's the Sharpie pen? I love the Sharpie pen. And then it inevitably ramps into some fountain pen love and some things like that. It's – every time they do a post like this, they've done some things like this on Lifehacker and some other blogs before. But every time they do this, it always escalates. And it's amazing to see all of the people chiming in on a post like this about all the pens. It just goes to show that there's lots of pen nerds out there, Myke. And, you know, we need to get them listening to the show and reading the blog, and they can step their pen game up even more than they already do. So, you know, this was a popular post when – what's that – the saved you a click account?

Myke Hurley: Oh, yeah.

Brad Dowdy: You know that – this article landed on saved you a click, you know, for what is the best pen? And it's like saved you a click, and it says apparently this one. They linked to the Pilot G2, so I thought that was pretty funny. So there, we saved you all a click if you all don't want to have Gawker show up in your browsing history.

Myke Hurley: Don't trust what they've got to say. Trust what we have to say.

Brad Dowdy: That's right. Always trust what we have to say. And always trust our lovely sponsors because they're amazing, and they're what keep us going. And we have some cool ones today, like our friends at Dash, huh, Myke?

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Brad Dowdy: I'm ready.

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Myke Hurley: Go to thedash.com. And play with it because it is fun. Thank you so much to Dash for sponsoring this week's episode of The Pen Addict and helping us support Real AFM with a little bit of fun.

Brad Dowdy: That was amazing. It's great, isn't it? Yeah.

Myke Hurley: The thing that makes me sad is that's pretty much what I say for Dash, but Jonathan Manza says it so much better than I do. Maybe I need to start singing all of our sponsors instead.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah, he's a superstar. He spoke at the XOXO Fest this past year. He did. That's a great talk. I've seen that one. It was probably one of the top two or three talks at the festival, in my opinion. And that's high praise because there's really no bad talks there. So to really knock it out of the park in that company, Jonathan did a really great job. So you'll should check that out.

Myke Hurley: That's in the show notes. Show notes are at relay.fm slash penaddict slash 134.

Brad Dowdy: I'm excited about what we're getting ready to talk about, Myke.

Myke Hurley: Yeah, you've done some good work here, buddy.

Field Notes Editions

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. I figured it was time in our Field Notes love fest that we have on the podcast here to now that the Ambition edition's out and there's a nice clean break at 25 released Field Notes colors editions. These are the subscription editions that I thought it would be fun to rank them. And we're going to go from 25 to 1, Myke. These are my rankings on what I think about every Field Notes edition that has been released so far under the color subscription header. So these are all the ones that Field Notes puts out quarterly since 2008, I think, was the first edition. And now we're 25 editions in. So we're going to make some people mad, Myke, talking about not ranking their favorite edition high enough and, you know, lots of arguing and disagreeing and agreeing, which is exactly what it should be. These are my rankings. No one else's rankings. And, Myke, you can yell at me, you know, as I go through this. But actually, you and I, for the most part, are on the same page on what we think about some of these editions.

Myke Hurley: Well, I'm looking at this list and I'm not sure. Now, the reason I haven't put together a list is because I have not tried all 25 editions. So I'm just going to shout at Brad as he gets them all wrong.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I wanted to do it, because I actually do have all 25 editions.

Myke Hurley: Look at me, la-dee-da, I'm Brad Dowdy.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah, speaking of which, if anyone has a sealed three-pack of Butcher Orange, I'm still interested, so get in touch. If you need some extra money for Christmas, let me know.

Myke Hurley: Are you being serious right now? Yeah. Do you think there is anyone?

Brad Dowdy: Who knows?

Myke Hurley: They've got to be expensive, right?

Brad Dowdy: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how much I'd pay, so we'll see.

Brad Dowdy: Anytime I ever mention it, no one ever comes with anything. So, we'll see. That's the one I still need, but regardless. I've actually used a Butcher Orange, and we've talked about that and showed some pictures of that. There's actually one or two editions in this list that I have not actually written in, but I'll be correcting that as we go through the years. But let's get into this list, okay? Yes. So we're going to go reverse order. We're going to start with number 25, what I think is the worst edition, and that's the Expedition edition. Yeah. Yeah. Wah, wah, wah.

Myke Hurley: You know, it is kind of unfair to put the Expedition in a list. Could not agree more. Because it was built to be different anyway.

Brad Dowdy: Yep. You know? So I look at it from my usage perspective. A lot of people, like, hunt these down. When they ran out of one of their printings sold out, because this became a stock edition. So one of their printings sold out, and they just haven't had, there was a gap between when they had to reprint them and get them back in. And a lot of people were clamoring for them because they really fit a specific need. They're a great addition, you know, for people that, you know, work in the field and need, you know, some more waterproofness and durability out of their editions. And you use ballpoints or pencils because that's really the only writing instruments that work on the paper. It's the plastic paper, the Yupo paper. And that just doesn't work for me. So I never use these editions. And I don't know. It's just one that doesn't interest me. I think a lot of people, I don't know if they'd have it as their number one edition, but I bet it's top five for a lot of people. And that just goes to show you that these are made for a lot of different uses, right?

Myke Hurley: Yeah, there will be some people that this will be their number one because it allows them to write in crazy conditions or something, you know?

Field Notes Usage

Brad Dowdy: Yep, totally. Totally. So, you know, this is not an indictment on any edition. It's just where it's fit into my needs of using them and how cool they are and how useful they are. So number 24 is the Cold Horizon edition.

Myke Hurley: Yeah, I think I might actually put this at the bottom of my list. Like, because I still, I love the way they look. I think it's one of the best looking editions because it's made with this care, you know? I like the gradient. Right. But that paper, man.

Brad Dowdy: The paper's a little rough. It's almost a little, like it's coated a little bit almost. I don't know the exact specs on it. I don't have it in front of me. But what happened with this edition for me, as has happened with several other editions, I have one opinion when I receive them the first time. Yeah. Right? You know, they're fresh out the box. You know, we haven't seen a new edition for three months. We have certain feelings about getting that new model. And then the actual using of the field notes happens. And then you kind of decide, well, did this really like live up to it? So I think when it first came out, I thought they were really beautiful. And then by the time I've used one and then compared them to other editions, it really, really dropped in the rankings for me. It's just it ended up being one of the most boring editions just out of usability. Right. And, you know, things could still change. And I've had some editions that I've kind of bagged on in the past that have actually moved up in my rankings. And the way I look at these rankings, Myke, is if I had 25 of these, one of each of these editions laid out on the table, which one would I pick up first to use? Which one would I pick up second to use?

Myke Hurley: You know, you have to kind of you have to quantify that for me, though, because does that mean? You love them and you want to keep them or you love them and you want to use them?

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think this is using them. I think this is about using them. And, you know, so Expedition is the last one I would pick up and I would choose the Cold Horizon to use before the if there were only two editions, I would pick up the Cold Horizon ahead of the Expedition edition. So there's that.

Myke Hurley: So you would use your favorite one? Because I mean, like, you know, the idea of the collector, like it depends how you're coming at it. You know, like if you're collecting, you probably use your least favorite first. Right. So you've got your favorite for longer in the collection. I see what you're saying. Yeah. Sure. But everybody knows, you know, you are no you are no staunch collector in the idea in the essence. You used your butcher orange. Sure. You know, like an animal.

Brad Dowdy: I still get grief about that a little bit every now and then. I was telling just out of fun.

Myke Hurley: I was telling my girlfriend this story like like a week or so ago. I was like, people hated him for that. I was like, I still don't understand why you did it. But I do understand why you did it. That makes sense. I wouldn't do it. I would have kept it. But I don't I don't begrudge the fact that you've used it. But I'm sure we're going to get to butcher orange in a bit.

Dry Transfer

Brad Dowdy: Oh, yes. Oh, without a doubt. So number 23 on the list is the dry transfer edition. This was a really strange edition for me. This was one that. What are you going to say?

Myke Hurley: Sorry, I keep butting in on you today. No. Dry transfer was my first.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah, I remember we talked you and I talked about this edition a lot. And it's really cool in the fact that, you know, it's a basically a blank craft notebook. And then they have these, for lack of a better term, stickers. It's not stickers. It's basically like a press on. It's dry transfer. It's dry transfer.

Myke Hurley: I know of it as being called Letroset.

Brad Dowdy: Okay. I haven't heard that.

Myke Hurley: But I think that that might have been a brand, Letroset. But yeah, that's something I know. Letroset dry transfer.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. So that way you could actually title the field notes as you wished. Right. You could instead of saying field notes in the awesome Futura font, they give you a set of letters and numbers and you can make your own title for your books like I Love, I Myke or something like that. And I just never got into doing that. You know, I have them sitting around and I am so anal retentive that it would drive me berserk if I didn't get that on straight or centered. So I never did it. And so therefore, I've never really had any use for this edition.

Myke Hurley: The video I think that Brian made had him like drawing out with a ruler and everything, didn't it? Yeah. Yeah. I still have my dry transfer paper with some unused letters on them.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. Did you actually use one? Did you build one out?

Myke Hurley: I used them all because at the time it wasn't a collector thing for me.

Brad Dowdy: Sure. Well, what did you put on the front of them? What did you spell?

Myke Hurley: I can't remember what I put on all of them, but I know one of them.

Brad Dowdy: You probably put I Love, I Myke on there too. Probably.

Myke Hurley: One of them said 70 decibels on it. Ah. But I don't know what the rest said. I can't remember.

Brad Dowdy: So I don't know. That edition almost kind of gets lost in the shuffle for me. Like no one really talks about it. No one really, you know, when they came out, they were hot because you could customize them like that. And that's always a big deal. But number 22.

Myke Hurley: The reason is Letraset was a company in the UK and they were known for making dry transfer lettering.

Brad Dowdy: Okay.

Myke Hurley: They were one of the main companies that actually made it. So that's why I know it as Letraset because when I grew up, it was made by the Letraset company and they kind of trademarked it and et cetera, et cetera. So it's like, you know, like Kleenex, you know, like a brand becomes the thing. Well, that was what Letraset was like for us.

Brad Dowdy: Very cool. Very cool. Speaking of you, you growing up and we're going to have to do this one episode. There was a Twitter explosion after one of our episodes where the Filofax talk and all the yikes stuff. So we're going to have to go back to your childhood early next year and get that out of your system because I don't want to see all that stuff clogging up my feet again. Yeah.

Myke Hurley: You kind of got bombarded for a couple.

Brad Dowdy: I did. It was awesome though. It was cool. So we'll, we'll bring all that back and we'll, we'll talk about yikes and Filofaxes and Myke's childhood stationary. So that's maybe a good, a good topic for 2015 Pan addict podcast. All right. Number 22 is the famous world famous shelter wood edition.

Brad Dowdy: I'm coming around slowly on this edition, Myke. And that's what happens to me sometimes. You know, I have my initial thoughts, love, hate, somewhere in between. And then as more additions come out and new things are on the market, it changes my opinion of some of the older additions. I'm yet to use a shelter wood. I've always greatly respected this edition. It's a amazing edition. And they actually, it was so popular. They made a similar stock edition called the cherry. It's cherry wood, I believe. So they carry a wood veneer stock notebook now.

Brad Dowdy: It's still one of the most impressive editions ever made. It hasn't been useful for me. This would be a lot of people's number one edition. I still don't get it. But I'm open to listening. If that makes sense, because they're doing this stuff like the Starbucks Starbucks one. So this this wood veneer covers are not going away. They've become a thing. They're impressive.

Myke Hurley: They look incredible.

Brad Dowdy: They look incredible. They're amazing. And you know, our friend of the show, Myke Dudak, he is taken to getting some of the shelter woods and doing like a wood burning stamp on the back of his. So you can do so much with this shelter wood edition. It looks really, really cool. But I don't use it. I've never used it. I don't know if I am, but I'm coming around, people. You're breaking me down.

Myke Hurley: You need to use one.

Brad Dowdy: I should. I should. And actually, in retrospect, I would use it now before number 21, which is the ambition edition. That's been kind of a letdown for me. Um, it's been a hugely popular edition. We talked about it a couple of weeks ago. I had to stop using it because I wasn't enjoying it. Um, I don't know what it is. It's a flat out beautiful edition. Um, it's the, it's the gift that will keep on giving this Christmas. I'm sure lots of people are getting this in their stocking because it's just, it's really holiday centric. And I don't know. It's, it's a good looking edition. It's just not for me. And I still haven't been able to pinpoint why.

Myke Hurley: I think you have to be a person that uses notebooks in this way. And I don't think either of us are.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah.

Myke Hurley: I think that's fundamentally it. Like, I don't think either of us keep daily journals, you know? Right.

Brad Dowdy: Right. Um. Yeah. I actually mailed out my extra ledger. I mean, not the ledger, the, uh, the calendar, the journal one. Yeah. So yeah, I just don't have a huge, huge import.

Myke Hurley: This is, this is the only set since I started collecting that I've not ordered another pack of. The, literally the only set. Mm-hmm.

Brad Dowdy: Interesting. Interesting.

Myke Hurley: Because I will never use these and I know I'll use the others.

Brad Dowdy: Mm-hmm.

Myke Hurley: Um, there you go.

Balsam Fur Edition

Brad Dowdy: So what's interesting is before, like the past year, I had another set at the bottom of the list and it was the Balsam Fur Edition and that's what comes in at number 20.

Myke Hurley: I never have one of these.

Brad Dowdy: Really?

Myke Hurley: Yeah, I've never had one.

Brad Dowdy: I probably, yeah, I remember us talking about this. It was a very weird edition. It had, it actually had a different retail version, a different band on the retail version.

Myke Hurley: That was what I ended up getting. Because I thought I, I got a pack online and they were just, uh, the green ones. I can't remember what they were called, but they weren't called Balsam Fur.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. Boy, what's that alternate name? I can't remember. Yes. But you're exactly right. So I have one of the, the main, the, one of the regular editions that ship with like the cream and red band instead of the stock black and white band. And it's just a very, super average edition. I don't know if it's something for these, uh, if you notice, I really don't like the winter editions. I think Expedition, Cold Horizon, Ambition, and Balsam Fur have all been winter editions, if I'm not mistaking. I'm not looking right at the page, but I think, I know Balsam Fur, Ambition, and Cold Horizon were all the winter releases. And I think Expedition was winter as well, because they were talking about that Antarctica trip.

Myke Hurley: It was winter, winter 2012.

Brad Dowdy: So for some reason, I'm not loving all the winter editions, which I just put that together as I'm looking at this list and maybe even number 19. You'll have to go back and look. Number 19 on the list is the northerly edition. When did that come out?

Myke Hurley: Winter. So we'll have to see. Winter 2011.

Brad Dowdy: Are you serious? Yeah. I don't know what it is about those winter editions. This is a beautiful cover and it has a great paper on the inside style wise. It's like the white lines. It's the reverse grid. It's a gray page with white lines, uh, white, grids, but it was another one like the Cold Horizon. It's tough when you have a colored paper. Cold Horizon had a blue colored paper. Norley had a gray colored paper. Those are hard to write on. The not all pens work well with that type of paper. So that one kind of fell down the list because it's not as functional. It's beautiful, like in the packaging and the exterior of it, the white cover with the silver, um, lettering on it. It's really, really sharp looking, but usability wise, it's not that great.

Myke Hurley: One of my favorite looking additions. Yeah. I love Norley. Yeah. It was one of the ones that I lusted over until I could, could get one. I actually can't remember if I ever got a set, but you sent me one.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah, maybe so. Yeah, you did. Maybe so. I think like a single. Yeah. Yeah. From the pack that I opened and used. And it's just, it's one of those that looks better than it actually works in my opinion. So that, that knocks it down the list.

Balsam Fur

Myke Hurley: Um, just going back a step, balsam fur, was that the one where they sent out the tree, but the tree and the sap leaked in them?

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. Yeah. So they sent out a, a fur branch in each of the packaging and you got this, you open up the envelope and you got this, you know, this scent of, of balsam fur Christmas coming out of your envelope. So, um, I threw that away. I don't have the, uh, original, I don't have the original fur branch. Like I do have from some of the other, uh, um, other color subscription additions. Like, you know, they put in the special things like that, but yep, that was exactly that addition. So kind of the opposite of Northerly is it comes in at number 18 and that's the county fair edition. This edition is highly usable. It's beautiful. It's well done. I love the red, yellow, and blue covers. I love all the different states information you get. I love the white paper with the gray graph line. It's a highly, highly usable edition. It's just become an overkill edition. It's anywhere and everywhere. And it's just become kind of boring in that aspect.

Myke Hurley: Um, yes, cause they made one for every state. So they had to make loads of them.

Brad Dowdy: Right.

Myke Hurley: Cause you can still buy them, right?

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. They still reprint states. So it's kind of a, kind of, sort of a stock edition. It's one of the most, it's one of their most impressive print runs in the fact that they had to put together 50 different graphics of notebooks. Kind of like the Shelterwoods impressive technically. This is impressive in quantity that they did. And like I said, it's one of the most usable editions. And it's a really good gateway, um, edition for someone who's not familiar with field notes. You know, you know, your friend can buy them the state that they were born in or the state that they currently live in. And it's a great gift. So it's an awesome, beautiful edition. I just rarely use it.

Myke Hurley: Something that I've never seen before, or maybe I haven't, didn't remember. On the page, you know, like you've got the edition size. It says, edition size, so complicated.

Brad Dowdy: Yes. That's, that's, that one, um, is definitely kind of, um, gone off the rails as far as numbers go. So, uh, people don't even like consider that any type of limited edition anymore. Yeah.

Myke Hurley: It's effectively, it is effectively a standard edition. Yes.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. And they, one of these, um, one of the good things about the county fair is they wear very well. Like when these are used, they look beautiful. Um, just, they have that beaten look and just, it really works with the way, um, the, the edition was made, but it's just not one I, I pick up and use very often.

Myke Hurley: The county fair is maybe the only book that makes me wish that field notes were a little bit more international. So I could, so I could have an equivalent. Yeah. Yeah. London.

Brad Dowdy: So you could, so you could feel included.

Myke Hurley: Yeah. But I get the Americana aspect of it is part of their brand.

Brad Dowdy: Yes. Yes, definitely.

Draplin Ted Talk

Myke Hurley: Oh, by the way, whilst we're talking about this, I watched the Draplin Ted talk. Yeah. That we spoke about last week. Sure. Loved. I loved it. Have you seen it? Yeah. Making it in the little leagues. I'll put it back in the show notes again in case anybody missed it, but, oh, really, really loved it.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. He, it's, he does a really good job. And the whole video is just really cool. Very cool. Number 17 in the field notes top 25 is packet of sunshine.

Brad Dowdy: This was, I don't know if it was the first, but it, it, it really stepped the game up on what they included with the colors additions. So this was almost known for the sunflower seeds packet that they sent with the notebooks more so than the notebooks. And that's kind of the case because all the notebooks are very similar. All the color, they have, the yellow color cover is the same. And then they have different ink colors printing on the outside, green, orange, and red, I believe. I'm not staring right at them, but it ended up being just kind of a blah addition as far as usefulness goes. I mean, it's just kind of there. I mean, it's cool how they did the, the sunflower seed packs and actually have that pack still sitting in there in my, in my storage of my field notes. But the, the packet of sunshine book itself has never been all that useful to me. Number 16 is the arts and sciences edition.

Myke Hurley: What is wrong with you?

Brad Dowdy: What is wrong with me is there are lots of awesome field notes editions.

Myke Hurley: Weren't we talking about how awesome these were like two weeks ago?

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. So when you start to put together a list, then you start to realize there's only so far it can move up the list. It's a pain. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you should, you should see some of the ones that don't even crack the top 10, Myke. It's amazing. It's that's like as far up as I could put it just because there's other editions that are that good. I mean, the middle range of this top 25 list is loaded with just epic releases that are just great. But that's just, that's a testament to field notes. They make so many awesome editions that that's what happens. Arts and sciences is 16th out of 25 and it's one of the coolest editions yet. I love the, a lot of people didn't like the, the larger size. I think it's a great size. It, it would have ranked higher if we didn't, for me, if it didn't have the line version, if they were both graph or grid or some other thing like that, because I don't use the line version. I actually traded my line versions, my arts versions for more science versions. So yeah, it's, that's exactly. The great thing about the art. You hit the nail on the head, Myke.

Myke Hurley: The arts one has the plain paper too.

Brad Dowdy: Well, they both have plain left hand side. Yeah. Yeah. And they have.

Myke Hurley: I'm sorry. I'm literally using one right now. That's an art.

Brad Dowdy: What a great, what a great addition that is. And that's, I mean, you hit the nail on the head. That's how hard it is to, to rank these things because you look at that addition and I could go use that addition right now and just love every second of it.

Myke Hurley: I will be so sad when I run out of these. It's on my list to buy more because I, I've said this before that I, they are the books that I use to take notes when I'm recording because they're big and they open flat and they're just perfect. I love the arts and sciences. It would go very high up my list. This is top five.

Brad Dowdy: I think. Yeah. This edition is tracking towards a stock edition, in my opinion.

Myke Hurley: I really hope just any, any book of that size. I think the Starbucks thing shows that they're interested in making more of this size. I really, really hope they do.

Brad Dowdy: Yep, exactly. I couldn't agree more. Number 15. And this is sure to draw some ire. Unexposed. Yeah.

Myke Hurley: I don't know what's going on with you anymore. You are like a weird human. Again. I love this. Again. We were talking about how much we love these editions. Did you say something about the covers though? You didn't?

Brad Dowdy: No, I like the covers. I think some people were complaining that they crack a little more and a little bit less durable. I haven't had that problem.

Myke Hurley: Okay.

Brad Dowdy: No, I'm good. I'm good with the cover breakdown. And actually, I'm good with any of these if they cover rips or anything like that because, I mean, they're getting, they're getting carried in rough places, you know, like a back pocket or just getting, you know, thrown around a desk and carried. So, yeah, I'm good with that. Throw some duct tape on it.

Myke Hurley: I always believe that field notes are more beautiful when they're used. Totally. When they don't shut properly and the covers are worn and they're cracking and they've got pages ripped out. That is, yeah, they are more beautiful when used, I think, by far. I can't think of any edition that has looked worse as it's been used. It's actually one, like, even though I don't like the paper of the Cold Horizon, it ages the best. Like, it cracks and you see the white through it and a lot of people don't like that. But I love that.

Brad Dowdy: Yep, I do too. And the Expedition edition, for those that use it, actually wears really well because it doesn't break or crack. Like, it just kind of slowly fades off the front cover just from, like, a rub fade. Like, if you can, and the white comes through from the plastic covers, it actually looks pretty good.

Myke Hurley: Let me tell you, that's one of the great things about Shelterwood. It doesn't really, you don't really age it, but you can manipulate it. Yes. You can bend it and it stays. Yeah. That's a really nice one to use. Although it can be a little bit frustrating sometimes because it refuses to close, but I think I, you know, why should I put something on top of it? Job done.

Brad Dowdy: Yep. So this is, maybe when we do the top 50 list, you know, four, five years from now, Shelterwood will continue to climb up the charts for me. I hope so. But yeah, are you mad because Unexposed isn't a rank high enough?

Myke Hurley: I am mad. I think it's a fantastic edition because it has the soft touch covers, which is one of mine and yours' favorite things. And they're these super bright colors and it had a real nice gimmick to it. And I love the little envelopes that they come in.

Brad Dowdy: Yep. So, yeah, that's, yeah, like I said, it's a testament to Field Notes how good all these editions are. It's number four.

Myke Hurley: No, I'm not letting you off. Do you have a reason for why it ranks lower than some of the others?

Brad Dowdy: Yeah, just wait till I say these. I mean, it's unbelievable. The ones, this, like I said, this is, if I had to compare them side by side, which one would I pick up first? And then that's kind of how I thought out these rankings. It's super hard. I mean, just, yeah, just wait till these, I mean, all the names that we haven't gotten to, I would use before I use Unexposed Edition.

Myke Hurley: But what I would say is as well, like if, hopefully you have already by now, but in the show notes, there's a Field Notes, Carlos Limited Edition Memo Books is one of the links. The show notes are at relay.fm slash penaddict slash 134. So you'd be looking at that, looking at what they look like in case you've never seen some of these before. Yeah, for sure. They're all listed on one page. Yeah, so you can just scroll up and down the page. I've got that link in the show notes. Right, it looks like we're about to turn a corner. So before we do, let's take a quick break and thank our friends over at Pen Chalet. Pen Chalet sell authentic, amazing rollables, fountain pens, ballpoints, mechanical pencils, and so much more. They have all of your favorite brands like Pelican, Lamy, Pilot, Namiki, Sailor, and Kaweco. They're an authorized dealer of all of them. They give you very fast and super reliable customer service. They've always got great discounts going on. They have closeout specials as well where you can get some great deals. They're always adding new stuff all the time, new pens every single month. Over the time that we've known them, you can kind of just see how that catalog is growing and they became like a Kaweco dealer. Oh, it's fantastic. As I mentioned earlier, they have all these great brands and they have all these great pens, but they also have loads of accessories too, like carrying cases, pen holders, refills, fountain pen converters, and so much more. They will give you free shipping on orders of over 50 bucks in the United States, but they also sell internationally as well with very reasonable shipping rates. Pen Chalet has low prices on high quality pens and a 100% satisfaction guarantee. So go to penchalet.com and use the code penaddict to save 10% off your order and click the podcast link at the top of the website and enter the password penaddict for even more savings as well as your 10% off. And this week's deals are fantastic. There's more than one this time. We have some fantastic deals on the Conklin Stylograph. We have the Platinum 3776 Century Fountain Pens. Kaweco Classic. You can get it for $16.88 after the coupon. The Kaweco Dyer 2 is also in there. There's some fantastic deals this week with pens that are 25% to 50% off. So make sure that you go to penchalet.com and enter the penaddict code when you click the podcast link at the top. You're going to find some fantastic deals you should be going to check out. There's a bunch this week for penaddict listeners.

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Brad Dowdy: So back into the list, number 14 is Mackinac Autumn. And I really like...

Myke Hurley: What a beautiful edition. I don't have one of these.

Brad Dowdy: Some of my favorite Field Notes editions are the multicolor editions.

Brad Dowdy: Unexposed was one of them. Mackinac Autumn's one of them. There's some more down the list. I really like getting those three different color books in each pack. So that's really cool. It doesn't get talked about a lot because it was such an early, early edition. But it's got these great fall colors. Orange, a reddish orange, and a brown books. And they're really, really nice looking. Especially in person.

Myke Hurley: Mackinac was the first edition to have more than one color in the edition.

Fire Spotter Edition

Brad Dowdy: Yep. Yep. And it's great. It's really good. 13 is an edition that I think has gotten completely lost in the shuffle. And that's the Fire Spotter edition.

Myke Hurley: This is one of my favorites. And it's the one... I think it might be the one that hurts me the most that I don't have. I have one of the red stock editions. Right. Which they don't do anymore. Were they red-blooded?

Brad Dowdy: Red-blooded, yes.

Myke Hurley: But I never had a Fire Spotter. And I really, really have always wanted one. And I scoured the internet. But they're really hard to find.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. So it's weird that, number one, they don't get talked about that much. Because they got usurped by the red-blooded edition. That's very similar. Like the debossed cover. Which looks great. That's one of my favorite styles. And the Fire Spotter was one of the first ones where the video really blew up. You know, all of their videos have been wonderful. Field Notes and Brian and Jim do a great job on all their videos. And the Fire Spotter one really took off and, you know, kind of crossed boundaries on the internet. And in the Fire Spotter edition, it came with a tattoo. Like a... Like a... What are those? Tatly? You know, like transfer tattoo. Temporary tattoos. Temporary tattoo. Thank you. And you don't hear a lot of people ever talking about the Fire Spotter. But it's a beautiful edition that if you ever came across, you would be all over it. Number 12. And this is probably where we're going to fight, Myke. That's the Traveling Salesman. The green ledger with the brown and gold cover. This is a cool edition.

Myke Hurley: This would also be really low down for me on my list.

Brad Dowdy: Yep. We've talked about it before on yours. This one's funny because they actually had a little bit of a printing issue with this one. And they got out into the wild. What happens is when you use the thicker paper, this has the 70-pound paper in it. And it changes the binding of the dimensions, like the centering of the print on the front page. So some of them are a little bit off because it kind of widened the cover, if you will. And it threw it off a little bit. And I didn't know that for probably a year after it. It's really, really close. But it was kind of funny because they usually, like, nail all the details like this. This next one is going to be some people's number one. And I could argue it could go way up the charts as we go through this. And that's the Night Sky edition.

Myke Hurley: Might be my favorite. Might be my favorite. Yeah. I think I would struggle, actually, to put an edition higher than Night Sky.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. This is one I would actually listen to arguments on for a ranking higher. The holographic parts on the back. Yeah.

Myke Hurley: There are so many special things about Night Sky. The holographic probably being the most. But the pattern on the inside, which they've now used in other editions. Like the little crosshairs. Reticle. Reticle, yes. That's it. Oh, I love them. And I will always love Thomas Hall for sending me 6,000 editions of them. Because I will have these forever now. Just superb. And also, they hold a nice memory for me as well. When the email came for this edition, I was standing on Alcatraz Island waiting for the boat to come pick me up. Nice. And the first time that I went to San Francisco. So, I remember getting it. And I remember me, Stephen, and Sean Blanc all frantically purchasing. Even though I'd already had mine. I was a subscriber by then. But I went and bought another set. Loved that. Loved, loved, loved that edition.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. It's a great edition. And, I mean, not a bad word to say about it. And it ranks at number 11 on my list. It's kind of amazing. But I've never, I don't recall since Field Notes became really popular, I've never seen an edition sell out faster than Night Sky Edition. It was amazing.

America the Beautiful

Brad Dowdy: Number 10 is America the Beautiful. And this is one that probably would have been in, like, 20th spot a year or two ago. But the more I look at this edition and the more I use this edition, the more I love this edition. And I have actually hunted down extra packs of this edition because I like it so much.

Myke Hurley: One of the greatest covers.

Brad Dowdy: One of the greatest covers they've ever done. It's really different in the grand scheme of Field Notes. It's a real standout design-wise. And it was one of the first to use the thicker paper, I believe. And it became hugely, hugely popular. And it's just a flat-out beautiful edition. I didn't get it at first. But the more I used it and the more I looked at it and the better it came, it became to me. And I just, I really, really liked the edition.

Myke Hurley: It's one of my favorites. It is definitely, definitely one of my favorites.

Brad Dowdy: Yep. Number 9, Day Game. This is kind of like in the Fire Spotter range where it doesn't get a lot of love. Like some of the, like Night Sky, for example. Doesn't get a huge amount of love. But it's a really, really quality edition. It's got one of my favorite single notebooks in it. This is another three-color pack. It's one I'm actually using right now. It's with a white cover and red field notes printing on the front. Red ink. It looks beautiful. And plus the other, the green and the brown editions are really nice too. And it uses a dot grid, which at the time, when this came out, they weren't doing much dot grid, if any. I don't know if this was the first. I'd have to look back and do some math about that. But, and it also came with a book. If you were a part of the color subscribers, which I think that's the only time that there's been a book with the, with the editions. That's, that's been a popular edition. But it kind of, kind of like Fire Spotter. It gets a little bit lost in the shuffle with some of these other ones. But I really, really enjoy it. And that's my current, current edition that I'm using right now. Number 8 is Drink Local. I love this edition. Love, love, love this edition. Six different colors. Love the yellow, or I don't know if they call it lager or barley grid that they use. I haven't enjoyed using an edition as much as Drink Local in a long time. And I've filled up several of these and given some to friends and gave some to my parents. And, you know, they came with the little six-pack holder and the coasters. And I just thought it was a really well-designed edition. Great video. And I thoroughly enjoyed using that edition. And that's an edition that, when I'm looking for a new notebook to use now, it's right there at the top to grab a Drink Local and use that because I like that edition so much.

Brad Dowdy: Number 7. This was a hard one to rank. And it's Butcher Blue. So this is probably the single rarest edition that there is. It's not the prettiest edition. It's not the most common edition, obviously. It's ridiculously expensive. But it ranks so high just because it has that aura about it.

Myke Hurley: Okay. Because I don't like the way these look.

Brad Dowdy: Right, right. You know, if it was based on rarity, this would be number one. But, and it's not as good looking as, like, Butcher Orange, which I have ranked higher. But there's something about the aura of that book that makes it special. So that's where that one falls in, in the rankings. And one of these days I'm going to have to use one of these because I said I would. So coming soon to an insane asylum near you, I guess, when I crack that pack open. Number six, National Crop. Can you tell I like the multicolor editions?

Myke Hurley: Oh, I love National Crop. I love the box that they came in. I love the idea behind them.

Brad Dowdy: The patch that it came with? Yeah. Everything about this edition is nailed. And this is one, if I see them for sale and they're reasonable price, I just stock up on it. It's a beautiful edition. Six different color books, all on different crops. Yes. You know, it's cotton, sorghum. I can't remember the whole list, but each of them is a different color. And seeing people use these, this is one of those that wears really, really well. So when you see a used beater one of these, they look fantastic. And this is, you know, the real traditional edition based on, you know, what these, what the field notes was about, you know, back in the 30s, 40s and 50s in the farmland and all the, all the farmers using, you know, their books to track their crop cycles and things like that. So great, great, great edition. Lots of history, lots of meaning behind this and the delivery and execution of the edition was spot on. Number five is Just Below Zero. This is a really, really beautiful edition. Kind of bluish, bluish gray, silvers. It's a super rare edition. It's one of the early editions. And actually all these at the top of my list. Maybe it's nostalgic that I've had some of these editions since the very beginning that I prefer them more than some of the old, some of the more current editions. But you'll see all the rest of this top five are older editions that you just can't get anymore. Something about that Just Below Zero is beautiful.

Myke Hurley: That Just Below Zero breaks the winter trend.

Brad Dowdy: Okay. Yeah, that's a winter one that I like. So that's funny. Yeah, so that's good. And I guess the next one is too, a winter one, which is the very first colors edition. And that's Mr. Butcher Orange. Yes. Um, it's just, it's a famous edition. And what's funny is, I'll have to go back and look at it. I think it's the only edition with an unoriginal name along with Butcher Blue. They're named after the physical cardstock that they're printed on. So the actual cardstock of the cover is a Butcher Orange by whichever company that makes that cardstock. I can't remember. It's not in front of me right now. So like, you know, Just Below Zero is the name that Field Notes came up with. Butcher Orange and Butcher Blue are a physical product name. Like you could go to a printer right now and get Butcher Orange paper. So I thought that was interesting.

Myke Hurley: French Giratone, Butcher Orange, 80 pound cover.

Brad Dowdy: Yep. So between Butcher Orange and Butcher Blue, I don't think there's any other ones that's actually the product name. And that was their very first editions, right? So they were still feeling this out. They don't know what's going to happen at this point, right? No one knows that Butcher Orange and Butcher Blue are going to become terms in our realm that we actually throw around with regularity. So it's kind of funny to look back and see that naming style at the time.

Myke Hurley: Craft was around before this, though, wasn't it?

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. Craft was the first. And then shortly after, I want to say six months or within the first year, and I think it was probably about six months since they started the company, then they did the colors thing and Butcher Orange was the first, followed by Butcher Blue. And we've told stories and had Brian Bedell on to explain how all this stuff originated. And you'll have to go back and listen to that episode. We'll put that episode in the show notes, Myke, because Brian talks about the history and how they had some mistakes on the print runs of these and the quantities. And that's why they're so rare, especially the Butcher Blue. They just didn't have many to sell to non-retailers. So that's why they're hard to get a hold of. Number three, Raven's Wing. This edition is sick. The pitch black covers with the letterpressed covers and the orange band. It's just striking. I mean, it looks like Halloween. They picked the perfect name for it. It's a beautiful edition. I remember at the time I sent a few of these out, like singles out to friends just saying, look how awesome this is.

Myke Hurley: Raven's Wing was the edition that brought Field Notes into the general consciousness, I think. I think so. That was where I first heard of Field Notes because I remember John Gruber linking to it.

Brad Dowdy: Yep. That one kind of broke them out. And it's still highly, highly sought after. You hear Raven's Wing just in Field Notes conversation all the time. I think it's probably a lot of people's favorite edition. Yeah.

Myke Hurley: I have been able to get myself a couple of those packs, which I'm very happy about.

American Tradesman

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. Yeah. They're really, really great. Number two, American Tradesman. I love this edition. Everything about it. It's one of the more simple editions that they've ever done. It's a standard, it's like a blue corrugated cover and a gray graph.

Myke Hurley: Very nice.

Brad Dowdy: With, um, gray graph? Yeah. Gray graph with like red, uh, printing on the inside.

Brad Dowdy: If I could have like an everyday notebook, it would probably be designed like that. Um, it's, I don't know. There's something about it. And when they did it, they just included these red, um, Carpenter's pencils with it. It was just, this is a, an addition that not a lot of people would understand why it ranks so highly until you use it. I think because visually it doesn't necessarily stack up to some of the other ones around it in the rankings, but the feel.

Myke Hurley: I love the cover.

Brad Dowdy: And yeah, the cover and the, the, just the tactile feeling and using it is, is really, really good. And then number one, this was, if anyone knows me, if you've listened to the show for any length of time, Grass Stained Green is so far ahead of every other edition. There should be like number one, Grass Stained Green, dot, dot, dot, everything else. That's how much I love that edition. It's the best. It's far and away the best. I wish I had 10, three packs of Grass Stained Green. Um, I don't know what it is about this edition. The green cover, the printing, the style, there's nothing I don't like about this edition. It's amazing. Um, I, I don't know what to say about it just because I've talked about it so much. It's, uh, far and away my favorite Field Notes edition. And, um, people who have actually been lucky enough to get their hands on this, they are pretty much in agreement that this is one of the top editions ever made. And, um, you know, unfortunately hard to get, you almost never see these, uh, on the secondary market to, to pick up. So that's my list, Myke.

Myke Hurley: I'm very lucky, uh, to have a single, which you sent me.

Brad Dowdy: I did. I did. I sent out a few singles to a few people, um, you know, back in the day. And, uh, that's one I've actually gone through. I've got one three pack left, uh, sealed. And, uh, I think at the time I had three, three packs I've used and sent out pretty much everything that I have on, on those. And I've sent some to some Field Notes and things like that. So, um, I like spreading the wealth of the, uh, the Field Notes just because I was lucky enough to get in on an early, have some extra ones and, uh, like other people to be excited about the, the, the whole brand. So I'm happy to do it. So what do you think? Give, give me what's number one on Myke. I'm not going to make you go through any type of list here, but your number one Field Notes.

Myke Hurley: Um, I, I, I must say I struggle because for me, uh, I really, really love, uh, Night Sky. Uh, and I really love America the Beautiful. Mm-hmm. Um, what else has had the thick paper? I know there was one other edition, wasn't there that had the thick paper?

Brad Dowdy: Uh, Shelterwood and Traveling Salesman.

Myke Hurley: Yeah. So not, not Shelterwood then. Yeah. Uh, yeah, I think for me it's, it's, it's even Night Sky. I, I'm, no, it's Night Sky. Night Sky's my favorite. Night Sky's definitely my favorite.

Honorable Mentions

Brad Dowdy: I can totally get behind that being number one overall. What a great edition. So now before, before we wrap, we have a couple of, uh, honorable mentions. You know, other people, there's a huge collector's market around Field Notes and Field Notes works with several other brands and does lots of special print runs for events or for products. And just, it's limitless the number of editions out there. But Myke and I wanted to point out a couple of special editions that we love so much. And what's funny is Myke had homework to do this. And he just kind of did it right before the show. And I wrote, he wrote down two editions. I wrote down three editions. And I wrote down, without seeing his list, two of the exact same. His two plus one more of mine are exactly the same. So we both love the factory floor editions. Yeah. That are usually released straight from, uh, straight from Draplin.com and from Aaron Draplin. So the most recent one was the, uh, this last one that just came out, the Christmas one, the gray, orange, you know, I don't know what you want to call it, with the port that was at the, uh, Portland, uh, Draplin pop-up shop. Prior to that was the Jade edition, which is really, really beautiful. Oh, yeah. Prior to that, um, he just did some releases for his, himself to use around the shop. They have orange covers. Like I have a numbered edition of 200, um, one of the orange covers. And I, they're all kind of rolled up into this factory floor edition. So you'll see a lot of factory floor editions, um, if you're into the field notes thing. The second one we wrote, both wrote down was the Kohl DDC edition that just came out. Was that last year? It was about a year ago.

Myke Hurley: Yeah, it was last year.

Brad Dowdy: Uh, it was a red, white, and blue cover with a yellow band that they did, uh, with Kohl. Kohl is a headwear maker. And, uh, they did a collaboration. It's got kind of this American flag look to it. It's just a really unique design. It kind of stands out from the crowd and a lot of the other, uh, field notes designs. Um, it's a really, really beautiful edition. It would rank both of these editions. These are like some of the, they're definitely like top five, top 10 material just in looks and usability wise. And the third one I put down, Myke, is a really, really old edition, but something about it is always striking to me. And it's the Renegade Pencils edition.

Myke Hurley: Oh yeah. It's the one with the Russian writing on it, right?

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. It's Mongolian. So it has the Mongolian writing. It's a regular craft notebook, but that Mongolian writing on it makes it stand out from all these other editions. Um, and if you can ever get your hands on one, they're super, they're practically impossible to get it. Cause I think they came out in like 2009. They're one of their first collaboration.

Myke Hurley: August 2010.

Brad Dowdy: Oh, 2010. But they're one of their first collaborations, um, that field notes actually really advertised, but they still didn't make very many of it. Many of them. Um, something about that edition gets me every time I, every time I see it. It's a, it's just a super cool edition. So those are, those are kind of our, uh, our special, special editions. And that list could go on forever. I mean, that's, that's an infinite, that's an infinite list.

Myke Hurley: I'm sure many people are going to tell us the ones that we've forgotten.

Brad Dowdy: Yeah. Actually, I'd like to hear it. Um, you know, I've got stacks of other ones, um, that I've got out. I like some of the neon ones that they did, you know, ice pops and, uh, was it summer camp? I like those neon ones and there's, there's whole kinds, all kinds of editions that have been done. So, uh, let us hear your special, your favorite special edition field notes and, uh, let us know your, um, let us know your, give me your top five field notes. If you've used them, um, shoot me an email, send me a tweet, um, Myke, how can they get in touch with us and, uh, let us know what their favorites are?

Myke Hurley: Well, one first thing you should do, you want to go over to relay.fm slash pen addict slash one, three, four. You'll find the show notes there and all the links for today's episode. You'll also find a button so you can click and send us an email so you can send in the list that way, or you can get us on Twitter. I am I Myke, I M Y K E and Brad is at Dowdyism D O W D Y I S M. It's a great way to get in touch with us. Brad also writes the fantastic pen addict.com. Thanks so much to our sponsors this week, dash and pen chalet. I hope you have a very happy holiday and a merry Christmas to you all out there. Um, I hope that, uh, Santa brings you many pens and, uh, we'll be back next time until then say goodbye, Brad. Goodbye, Brad.