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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* And, you know, they could have adapted, and all of these, they could have adapted to embrace that, but it requires a lot of work. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I mean, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but my expectation is that some of these, some of the best pen shows around, they're essentially run by volunteers.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* And, you know, they could have adapted, and all of these, they could have adapted to embrace that, but it requires a lot of work. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I mean, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but my expectation is that some of these, some of the best pen shows around, they're essentially run by volunteers.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Totally. Totally. So, you've got to want to do that work for the love of the game, right? Right. Because you're not making money on this. And so, I think the existing infrastructure of pen shows, which the modern hobby has kind of moved into, I think there is, it's not really sustainable for them to hold on, like, to manage that. Yeah. And I think what should happen, and I think what is clearly happening, is new shows with new incentives are being created, and that is probably the right way forward. So, I think of something like a San Francisco, I think of something like the more stationery-focused conferences. Like, I'll say, the thing, the show I am most interested in going to is the Chicago Planet Conference. Right. Like, hearing Anna talk about that, like, that's where, that is, I really want to go to that. Like, that sounds great, and I think would be professionally very helpful and interesting for me, but just like, it sounded like the classes that they were putting on were fantastic, and unlike anything anywhere else, right? Yep. And so, like, I would like to do that, do those experiences. Like, there was an experience that Anna ran, right?</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Totally. Totally. So, you've got to want to do that work for the love of the game, right? Right. Because you're not making money on this. And so, I think the existing infrastructure of pen shows, which the modern hobby has kind of moved into, I think there is, it's not really sustainable for them to hold on, like, to manage that. Yeah. And I think what should happen, and I think what is clearly happening, is new shows with new incentives are being created, and that is probably the right way forward. So, I think of something like a San Francisco, I think of something like the more stationery-focused conferences. Like, I'll say, the thing, the show I am most interested in going to is the Chicago Planet Conference. Right. Like, hearing Anna talk about that, like, that's where, that is, I really want to go to that. Like, that sounds great, and I think would be professionally very helpful and interesting for me, but just like, it sounded like the classes that they were putting on were fantastic, and unlike anything anywhere else, right? Yep. And so, like, I would like to do that, do those experiences. Like, there was an experience that Anna ran, right?</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* It sounded really great. I don't remember what it was now, but it's building a journal or something. Oh, sure. Yeah, there's all kinds of different classes. We did a sigils art class at the California <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Penn </del>Show, just all kinds of different types of things you could do. And so, like, I think that, you know, the way forward is people who want to put on a good show for the sake of putting on a good show, and that's kind of the way that it will work, is my expectation. Yeah. I think, like, my short version is I'm looking for an event, and I'm not looking for, like, a show, right? Like, what we call a traditional <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Penn </del>Show. I want to go and do things more than shop. I want to shop. I want to spend my money. Like, I'm down for that. But for me to spend two and three days at a place, I need more than that. And the shows that do that successfully, like the New California Show, I think has done a really good job at this. You're essentially trying to turn the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Penn </del>Show into more of a conference. Yep. Right. Than just a shopping event. Because by doing that, by programming the show, you're keeping people there. And that is a benefit to everyone. Yeah. It's a symbiotic relationship. Yeah. Like, otherwise, you're just having a, you know, a trunk show at a hotel room. So, yeah. So, anyway, that was – I haven't really talked about this with you that much other than just in passing. And like I said, I don't have, like, all the answers, and I'm going to pretend to have all the answers. And I know how difficult this is. Like, I've straight up told people I do not want to run one of these events no matter – if I could create my absolute perfect event, I still wouldn't want to run it because it sounds like a nightmare. So, like, shout out to everyone who does do this. Like, I'm, you know, I'm not trying to just, you know, like, you know, shots fired type of situation. Like, I understand how hard it is and the challenges that we see in this. So, it's not easy, but it's more of an observation of, like, a change in the community that I'm seeing just in general terms. So, anyway. I was really surprised when I read Refill and, like, kind of how down you were on the Atlanta show. It was like, oh, wow. Yeah. Like, that's a change. It kind of hurt. Yeah. It kind of hurt. Yeah. Like, I think that came across – like, it was just a bit like, oh, man, like, that's not – that's not what I want to see. Like, that's the show, you know, like, for me, in my mind. I mean, obviously, it's not anymore, but, like, it felt like that. And I don't know. It's just sad. But I'm not surprised at the same time because, as I already said, like, I just don't know if the incentives align for the promoters of the show to put the amount of effort in. Now, of course, there are simple things, right, as you referenced a few times. They just put the correct date on the website. Yeah. Yeah. So people can find the show and come to it. But, like, I don't expect the Atlanta show. I don't expect any of the smaller shows to truly program a conference.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* It sounded really great. I don't remember what it was now, but it's building a journal or something. Oh, sure. Yeah, there's all kinds of different classes. We did a sigils art class at the California <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Pen </ins>Show, just all kinds of different types of things you could do. And so, like, I think that, you know, the way forward is people who want to put on a good show for the sake of putting on a good show, and that's kind of the way that it will work, is my expectation. Yeah. I think, like, my short version is I'm looking for an event, and I'm not looking for, like, a show, right? Like, what we call a traditional <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Pen </ins>Show. I want to go and do things more than shop. I want to shop. I want to spend my money. Like, I'm down for that. But for me to spend two and three days at a place, I need more than that. And the shows that do that successfully, like the New California Show, I think has done a really good job at this. You're essentially trying to turn the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Pen </ins>Show into more of a conference. Yep. Right. Than just a shopping event. Because by doing that, by programming the show, you're keeping people there. And that is a benefit to everyone. Yeah. It's a symbiotic relationship. Yeah. Like, otherwise, you're just having a, you know, a trunk show at a hotel room. So, yeah. So, anyway, that was – I haven't really talked about this with you that much other than just in passing. And like I said, I don't have, like, all the answers, and I'm going to pretend to have all the answers. And I know how difficult this is. Like, I've straight up told people I do not want to run one of these events no matter – if I could create my absolute perfect event, I still wouldn't want to run it because it sounds like a nightmare. So, like, shout out to everyone who does do this. Like, I'm, you know, I'm not trying to just, you know, like, you know, shots fired type of situation. Like, I understand how hard it is and the challenges that we see in this. So, it's not easy, but it's more of an observation of, like, a change in the community that I'm seeing just in general terms. So, anyway. I was really surprised when I read Refill and, like, kind of how down you were on the Atlanta show. It was like, oh, wow. Yeah. Like, that's a change. It kind of hurt. Yeah. It kind of hurt. Yeah. Like, I think that came across – like, it was just a bit like, oh, man, like, that's not – that's not what I want to see. Like, that's the show, you know, like, for me, in my mind. I mean, obviously, it's not anymore, but, like, it felt like that. And I don't know. It's just sad. But I'm not surprised at the same time because, as I already said, like, I just don't know if the incentives align for the promoters of the show to put the amount of effort in. Now, of course, there are simple things, right, as you referenced a few times. They just put the correct date on the website. Yeah. Yeah. So people can find the show and come to it. But, like, I don't expect the Atlanta show. I don't expect any of the smaller shows to truly program a conference.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Correct. But the bigger shows, especially those that are set up by members of the new community, I absolutely expect that. Because otherwise, why do it?</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Correct. But the bigger shows, especially those that are set up by members of the new community, I absolutely expect that. Because otherwise, why do it?</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Well, Myke, one of the reasons why these shows need to step their game up because we have a lot of great online opportunities to buy pens like our good friends at Pen Chalet. So what's going on over at Pen Chalet? Oh, they have the best stuff, Brad. They sell all the products that you're looking for from the brands that you love. They have fast and reliable customer service with new pens being added to the site every month and discounts, discounts, discounts. You're going to find fantastic prices over at Pen Chalet. Close out specials, special discounts and discounts for listeners of this show that I'll get to in a minute. As well as all of the products that I mentioned, you know, like rollerballs and fountain pens and points and mechanical pencils. Pen Chalet also has some limited edition products and all the accessories that you're going to need as well. They are the one-stop shop. You can go there and get whatever you want. And Pen Chalet is always adding new stuff from new brands. That brand list gets longer and longer and longer every time. They're selling exclusive things. They're selling things that you can get at better prices than anywhere else. That's what they're all about. Pen Chalet do international shipping with great shipping rates and free shipping on orders of over $75 in the U.S. Pen Chalet has low prices on high-quality pens with a 100% satisfaction guarantee. So take yourself over to penchalet.com slash penaddict. You will get 10% on anything at Pen Chalet and also see some exclusive offers for listeners of this show.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Well, Myke, one of the reasons why these shows need to step their game up because we have a lot of great online opportunities to buy pens like our good friends at Pen Chalet. So what's going on over at Pen Chalet? Oh, they have the best stuff, Brad. They sell all the products that you're looking for from the brands that you love. They have fast and reliable customer service with new pens being added to the site every month and discounts, discounts, discounts. You're going to find fantastic prices over at Pen Chalet. Close out specials, special discounts and discounts for listeners of this show that I'll get to in a minute. As well as all of the products that I mentioned, you know, like rollerballs and fountain pens and points and mechanical pencils. Pen Chalet also has some limited edition products and all the accessories that you're going to need as well. They are the one-stop shop. You can go there and get whatever you want. And Pen Chalet is always adding new stuff from new brands. That brand list gets longer and longer and longer every time. They're selling exclusive things. They're selling things that you can get at better prices than anywhere else. That's what they're all about. Pen Chalet do international shipping with great shipping rates and free shipping on orders of over $75 in the U.S. Pen Chalet has low prices on high-quality pens with a 100% satisfaction guarantee. So take yourself over to penchalet.com slash penaddict. You will get 10% on anything at Pen Chalet and also see some exclusive offers for listeners of this show.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* From Relay, this is The Pen Addict, episode 662. Today's show is brought to you by Squarespace and Pen Chalet. I'm the returning Pen Daddy, Myke Hurley, and I'm joined by the OG Pen Daddy, Brad Dowdy. Hi Brad. Pen Daddy's in the house. Let's go. Myke Hurley is back. Let's go. That's my first from that I've gotten to do. I recorded with Jason on Monday, but he did a little fake out for the listeners, but he continued introing the show. I saw that. So that was really fun, but that means I was looking forward to giving my returning intro, but didn't get to do it. So we just got about eight weeks of Pen Energy.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* From Relay, this is The Pen Addict, episode 662. Today's show is brought to you by Squarespace and Pen Chalet. I'm the returning Pen Daddy, Myke Hurley, and I'm joined by the OG Pen Daddy, Brad Dowdy. Hi Brad. Pen Daddy's in the house. Let's go. Myke Hurley is back. Let's go. That's my first from that I've gotten to do. I recorded with Jason on Monday, but he did a little fake out for the listeners, but he continued introing the show. I saw that. So that was really fun, but that means I was looking forward to giving my returning intro, but didn't get to do it. So we just got about eight weeks of Pen Energy.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* And did it come back just naturally? Did you have to rewrite it down? Did you have to think about what you're going to say? Honestly, I've actually been quite surprised at how I've just slipped right back into it. Just in general, like show prep has been fine. You know, like all of the normal that I've just moved right back into the normal time. But I do feel like I've been gone for a long time. Like this isn't one of those things where, oh, it feels like I just left. No, I feel like I have been gone for a long time. But that was the point of it. That's good. I will actually just rejigger the show here and just say I want to thank you, Brad, for holding the show down for the last couple of months. Because you had the hardest job because not only did you have to do the show, you had to learn how to do all this stuff. There's a lot of stuff. The back end. That happens and you did it all. And I don't know if maybe it didn't get to me or whatever, but I didn't see any problems in what you did. You did a great job. Oh, I think it was one thing. Actually, it was one thing, right? It was one and you caught it. I was so mad at you. Oh, well, you know, the date on an episode was wrong, right? Yeah. So just behind the scenes, the way our CMS is set up, I create the show in a draft form, right? Yeah. And I'm a person that gets ahead of everything. So if the show's coming out on Wednesday, I'm making sure I'm the file star editor. Big shout out to Jim Metzendorf for doing all the editing. He was flawless the entire time and working with some sketchy files. You know who you are.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* And did it come back just naturally? Did you have to rewrite it down? Did you have to think about what you're going to say? Honestly, I've actually been quite surprised at how I've just slipped right back into it. Just in general, like show prep has been fine. You know, like all of the normal that I've just moved right back into the normal time. But I do feel like I've been gone for a long time. Like this isn't one of those things where, oh, it feels like I just left. No, I feel like I have been gone for a long time. But that was the point of it. That's good. I will actually just rejigger the show here and just say I want to thank you, Brad, for holding the show down for the last couple of months. Because you had the hardest job because not only did you have to do the show, you had to learn how to do all this stuff. There's a lot of stuff. The back end. That happens and you did it all. And I don't know if maybe it didn't get to me or whatever, but I didn't see any problems in what you did. You did a great job. Oh, I think it was one thing. Actually, it was one thing, right? It was one and you caught it. I was so mad at you. Oh, well, you know, the date on an episode was wrong, right? Yeah. So just behind the scenes, the way our CMS is set up, I create the show in a draft form, right? Yeah. And I'm a person that gets ahead of everything. So if the show's coming out on Wednesday, I'm making sure I'm the file star editor. Big shout out to Jim Metzendorf for doing all the editing. He was flawless the entire time and working with some sketchy files. You know who you are.</div></td></tr>
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