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	* So I ended up with like a, a pilot, like the Cavalier, which is the really slim, very adorable colors. And a bottle of the Itoshizuku Yamabudo, which was my first like nice ink. Uh, so it, it's been, it's been a journey from gel pens, which I still love. And I still have plenty of to fountain pens. And just because fountain pens have so much more, so many more aspects to them, like how the, you know, like nib appearance and what engraving is on them and details of the pens. It's just a, it's just a bigger world to explore. So I'm still exploring the fountain pen world. Yeah. We'll never stop exploring. We'll never stop. I don't think. And you started sharing this exploration, like you said, in 2010, just to, just to fake your way into a trade show. Exactly. I'm very much into that, by the way. Um, isn't that a genius method? Totally. It is. It's like, Hey, I exist. Look at me. I mean, I didn't use it, but I could now. So how did, what was your idea of like starting it and then like growing it in, in what you, what types of articles you were wanting to share or what, you know, kind of information you wanted to share, uh, online? It was really a passion. Like I was just so excited. I was so excited that there were other people who were also excited about a gel pen, for example, or, uh, just a new ink color. I used to have the pilot petites, like the, the little itty bitty plastic pilots that were in really fun colors. And, you know, and just having someone else say, Oh, I love that so much. I'm so excited. Like, can I try your pen when I was in university? It was like, that was the motivating factor. It was just the excitement and the passion. So I was just writing, I wouldn't even call them reviews. When I look back at them, they were really just articles about my excitement about a pen. It's really kind of nerdy. No. Well, I mean, listen, I mean, yeah, but like your excitement has not waned like over all these years. And it was apparent back then when you started, I was like, Oh, Aziza is really into this and like, like your style and just your energy. And that is carried, carried through to this day. So I just, I, I just think it's like super awesome to, to see you continue to, you know, build and grow and keep doing this. It's pretty awesome. I'm a very passionate person. When I like something, I like it hard. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And, and also dangerously because it means I'll spend all my money on it, but that's okay. Yeah. So speaking of, of you liking all the things, I'm gonna have all the links to your stuff in the show notes and I was putting together links. I was like, Oh, I need the blog, the podcast, the shop, the Instagram, the YouTube, the Patreon. I do so many things. There's so many. But I love it. So you're always looking, you're always doing new things. Like you've, you've done a podcast for a while. Are you starting a new kind of YouTube show here recently, which I'm just kind of catching up on. Can you, can you talk about that for me and the listeners? Because I'm not even that familiar. It's not, it's, it's been a couple months now. And so I'm, I'm doing two. So one is, I think probably the more unusual one is gourmet pens and friends where it is just to hang out with a friend. But I really, it really began because I wanted to give people a, a place to talk about kind of like what's bothering them in, in a good way or something that's special to them. That's not just pens, something in their world or in their life that means a lot to them that they want others to hear about. So oddly enough, it's been a lot of mental health. We've talked a lot about grief, imposter syndrome, more grief, loss. And what we're finding as we go is how much it ties back to the pen world because we are turning to not just our pens and instruments to cope with this stuff, but we're also turning to the friends we've made in the pen world for love and support. And so it's really just a place where we hang out for love and support. I think that's beautiful. It is. It's very, it is emotionally heavy because I mean, sometimes after we go off air, we're kind of a little weepy, you know? Um, and that might be unusual for my channel because usually my channel's very, um, annoyingly upbeat probably. And, uh, I'm just trying to be more honest, give people a more realistic look of what someone else's life might be. And, um, on the other end of the spectrum, I'm doing just myself. It's just live streams late at night because that's when I function best. And, uh, it's just a place where I talk about whatever I'm playing with, like whatever new pen I'm looking at, um, doing some guided inky messes. It's, it's kind of a playtime, but more of a, a live stream of consciousness, which is a little disturbing.		* So I ended up with like a, a pilot, like the Cavalier, which is the really slim, very adorable colors. And a bottle of the Itoshizuku Yamabudo, which was my first like nice ink. Uh, so it, it's been, it's been a journey from gel pens, which I still love. And I still have plenty of to fountain pens. And just because fountain pens have so much more, so many more aspects to them, like how the, you know, like nib appearance and what engraving is on them and details of the pens. It's just a, it's just a bigger world to explore. So I'm still exploring the fountain pen world. Yeah. We'll never stop exploring. We'll never stop. I don't think. And you started sharing this exploration, like you said, in 2010, just to, just to fake your way into a trade show. Exactly. I'm very much into that, by the way. Um, isn't that a genius method? Totally. It is. It's like, Hey, I exist. Look at me. I mean, I didn't use it, but I could now. So how did, what was your idea of like starting it and then like growing it in, in what you, what types of articles you were wanting to share or what, you know, kind of information you wanted to share, uh, online? It was really a passion. Like I was just so excited. I was so excited that there were other people who were also excited about a gel pen, for example, or, uh, just a new ink color. I used to have the pilot petites, like the, the little itty bitty plastic pilots that were in really fun colors. And, you know, and just having someone else say, Oh, I love that so much. I'm so excited. Like, can I try your pen when I was in university? It was like, that was the motivating factor. It was just the excitement and the passion. So I was just writing, I wouldn't even call them reviews. When I look back at them, they were really just articles about my excitement about a pen. It's really kind of nerdy. No. Well, I mean, listen, I mean, yeah, but like your excitement has not waned like over all these years. And it was apparent back then when you started, I was like, Oh, Aziza is really into this and like, like your style and just your energy. And that is carried, carried through to this day. So I just, I, I just think it's like super awesome to, to see you continue to, you know, build and grow and keep doing this. It's pretty awesome. I'm a very passionate person. When I like something, I like it hard. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And, and also dangerously because it means I'll spend all my money on it, but that's okay. Yeah. So speaking of, of you liking all the things, I'm gonna have all the links to your stuff in the show notes and I was putting together links. I was like, Oh, I need the blog, the podcast, the shop, the Instagram, the YouTube, the Patreon. I do so many things. There's so many. But I love it. So you're always looking, you're always doing new things. Like you've, you've done a podcast for a while. Are you starting a new kind of YouTube show here recently, which I'm just kind of catching up on. Can you, can you talk about that for me and the listeners? Because I'm not even that familiar. It's not, it's, it's been a couple months now. And so I'm, I'm doing two. So one is, I think probably the more unusual one is gourmet pens and friends where it is just to hang out with a friend. But I really, it really began because I wanted to give people a, a place to talk about kind of like what's bothering them in, in a good way or something that's special to them. That's not just pens, something in their world or in their life that means a lot to them that they want others to hear about. So oddly enough, it's been a lot of mental health. We've talked a lot about grief, imposter syndrome, more grief, loss. And what we're finding as we go is how much it ties back to the pen world because we are turning to not just our pens and instruments to cope with this stuff, but we're also turning to the friends we've made in the pen world for love and support. And so it's really just a place where we hang out for love and support. I think that's beautiful. It is. It's very, it is emotionally heavy because I mean, sometimes after we go off air, we're kind of a little weepy, you know? Um, and that might be unusual for my channel because usually my channel's very, um, annoyingly upbeat probably. And, uh, I'm just trying to be more honest, give people a more realistic look of what someone else's life might be. And, um, on the other end of the spectrum, I'm doing just myself. It's just live streams late at night because that's when I function best. And, uh, it's just a place where I talk about whatever I'm playing with, like whatever new pen I'm looking at, um, doing some guided inky messes. It's, it's kind of a playtime, but more of a, a live stream of consciousness, which is a little disturbing.
	* It's a little disturbing. It's like, it's like, I know Aziza, I can laugh really hard at that. Yeah.		* It's a little disturbing. It's like, it's like, I know Aziza, I can laugh really hard at that. Yeah.
	* Yeah. And, and so it's been, it's, it's two new things. And I, I kind of pivoted this way because I wanted to just make a place where people felt safe. And so I want people to know that, you know, it's also okay if you're upset about something or you're grieving, you're still welcome to come and hang out. You're still wanted in the room, even if you're feeling down. And, um, it's been really nice in that regard. I think it's been supportive. So I'm honored that I have the ability to do this. It's a big deal. And I appreciate you doing this. And I think even back when we were talking on the podcast for the first time, we even alluded to like some of these things. And I've always tried to been, be open and honest with my struggles and make, you know, myself available to people with challenges, um, you know, just in day-to-day regular challenges and, you know, sharing my, you know, my own challenges. And I think it's really cool that you open up this way and allow the platform for people to, uh, to join you and come hang out and just, you know, feel comfortable saying, Hey, sometimes it's not all right. And we have each other and we're going to get through this. Right. Yeah. And, and it's beautiful to see the chat room, um, come to life with support for someone else who has shared something. Uh, it's like, we've had a lot of grief shared actively, you know, as things are happening in the chat room and it's, it's, it's very jarring because, um, it's so shocking. And at the same time, seeing so many strangers just step up immediately to offer support to someone they've never met, they've only seen in a chat room is it's so incredible. And I'm like, yes, this is what the ~~Penn~~ community is about. Yep. We're building a safe community and this is exactly why we're here. Yeah. It's, it's pretty crazy to think about, but it's so true. Everything you said, it's, it's just an amazing community. Glad to be a part of it. Glad you're a part of it and glad, um, you know, we have people that, you know, feel comfortable coming in and, you know, welcoming, welcoming to all. So we'll have a link in the show notes, uh, to your YouTube and make sure everyone goes over there and follows that. So one of the other links we're going to have is to your Instagram. And let's just say that one's a little bit messier, but in a good way, let's talk about, let's talk about your inky doodles. Okay. Because I think that is one of those things that is fascinating to me that there is just ink being slung, no cares in the world. I will waste it. And it's a lot. So tell me, yeah, tell me, tell me, just tell me about your, your inky doodles. Yeah. Yeah. I would be thrilled to do this. This, this is because I had too much ink really. And I had too many pens and I thought, okay, I really need to, uh, figure out a way to use this without wasting it. And I, I also have had a lifelong dream of pretending I'm an artist. So I've always just, it's always seemed like I just want to be able to have the kind of brain that can create something beautiful. And it turns out I do have that. It's just beauty is different for everyone because there are definitely people who are horrified by what I do, which is okay. Which is okay. They're like, I've literally gotten comments of, oh my gosh, how much ink have you wasted? I'm like, not enough. Thank you very much. Yeah. That's zero because this is not wasteful whatsoever. This is not wasting. It's not wasting. And I, it has really forced me to explore inks and colors as well as my pens and nibs and papers. So this is, it's an, a very immersive journey. And the more I dabble, the more I am finding who I really am. That sounds so cheesy. Heck no. But I mean, I've been on Instagram since like 2007 or something. And it has taken me this long. It's really only in 2024 that I found my voice. I'm like, hey, this, like the feed that I have now, this is me. This is what I do with pens and inks. This is who I am. And this is kind of how I go through life. Like it's very colorful and insane.		* Yeah. And, and so it's been, it's, it's two new things. And I, I kind of pivoted this way because I wanted to just make a place where people felt safe. And so I want people to know that, you know, it's also okay if you're upset about something or you're grieving, you're still welcome to come and hang out. You're still wanted in the room, even if you're feeling down. And, um, it's been really nice in that regard. I think it's been supportive. So I'm honored that I have the ability to do this. It's a big deal. And I appreciate you doing this. And I think even back when we were talking on the podcast for the first time, we even alluded to like some of these things. And I've always tried to been, be open and honest with my struggles and make, you know, myself available to people with challenges, um, you know, just in day-to-day regular challenges and, you know, sharing my, you know, my own challenges. And I think it's really cool that you open up this way and allow the platform for people to, uh, to join you and come hang out and just, you know, feel comfortable saying, Hey, sometimes it's not all right. And we have each other and we're going to get through this. Right. Yeah. And, and it's beautiful to see the chat room, um, come to life with support for someone else who has shared something. Uh, it's like, we've had a lot of grief shared actively, you know, as things are happening in the chat room and it's, it's, it's very jarring because, um, it's so shocking. And at the same time, seeing so many strangers just step up immediately to offer support to someone they've never met, they've only seen in a chat room is it's so incredible. And I'm like, yes, this is what the Pen community is about. Yep. We're building a safe community and this is exactly why we're here. Yeah. It's, it's pretty crazy to think about, but it's so true. Everything you said, it's, it's just an amazing community. Glad to be a part of it. Glad you're a part of it and glad, um, you know, we have people that, you know, feel comfortable coming in and, you know, welcoming, welcoming to all. So we'll have a link in the show notes, uh, to your YouTube and make sure everyone goes over there and follows that. So one of the other links we're going to have is to your Instagram. And let's just say that one's a little bit messier, but in a good way, let's talk about, let's talk about your inky doodles. Okay. Because I think that is one of those things that is fascinating to me that there is just ink being slung, no cares in the world. I will waste it. And it's a lot. So tell me, yeah, tell me, tell me, just tell me about your, your inky doodles. Yeah. Yeah. I would be thrilled to do this. This, this is because I had too much ink really. And I had too many pens and I thought, okay, I really need to, uh, figure out a way to use this without wasting it. And I, I also have had a lifelong dream of pretending I'm an artist. So I've always just, it's always seemed like I just want to be able to have the kind of brain that can create something beautiful. And it turns out I do have that. It's just beauty is different for everyone because there are definitely people who are horrified by what I do, which is okay. Which is okay. They're like, I've literally gotten comments of, oh my gosh, how much ink have you wasted? I'm like, not enough. Thank you very much. Yeah. That's zero because this is not wasteful whatsoever. This is not wasting. It's not wasting. And I, it has really forced me to explore inks and colors as well as my pens and nibs and papers. So this is, it's an, a very immersive journey. And the more I dabble, the more I am finding who I really am. That sounds so cheesy. Heck no. But I mean, I've been on Instagram since like 2007 or something. And it has taken me this long. It's really only in 2024 that I found my voice. I'm like, hey, this, like the feed that I have now, this is me. This is what I do with pens and inks. This is who I am. And this is kind of how I go through life. Like it's very colorful and insane.
	* Not super structured. It's kind of like, okay, let's hope this works out. And sometimes it works out better than others. And so it just very much captures me. And so it's very colorful. Yeah. I love hearing this. Like this is, it's, it's inspirational, honestly, to, to myself, to a lot of us, just the difficulty with allowing yourself to just be free and just kind of do whatever is, it's a challenge. It's like, you can't just, it's just not words, right? Like it's, it's not, it's, it's a long time of work and belief and struggle and just figuring yourself out. And to hear you say, it's like, oh yeah, I feel pretty good about this. And it's taken me like until last year to get it there. But yeah, I'm good about it. Yeah. Yeah. Which is shocking as well, because a lot of times we'll see beautifully curated feeds and everything looks perfect. And we might think, oh wow. They knew from the start what they wanted. I mean, it took me over a decade to find out who I am in the pen world, which is shocking as well. Because it's like, oh, it's Gourmet Pen. She knows what she's doing. Well, no, I have no idea what I'm doing, but I'm now finding it out. And I love it. Like I really, really love it. I love it too. And one of the things you're, you're finding out and sharing with others is your ability to teach at pen shows. Yeah. What made you, yeah, I was going to say you've started doing this very actively in the past few years. Tell us a little bit about your teaching, what classes you teach and why you like getting out there and helping other people at pen shows. Oh, this one is, this one's fun. I mean, I was kind of voluntold into this position by the Philly pen show organizers who are friends. And one of them asked, well, like, hey, why don't you come teach people how to use pilot parallels? And I was thinking, okay, I don't know what I'm doing. This is not something I am capable of or qualified for. And he said, that's kind of the point, you know, like it would be really casual and it's very much you and who you are. So that was 2019. Okay. I believe so. It was the year before everything locked down or two years before everything locked down. And, um, I just kind of went for it. Absolutely terrified because I had no idea what I was doing, but he said, you know, just pretend you're in one of your, like you're recording a video and you're talking to your audience. And so I just went for it because I thought, well, okay, what do you have to lose? And it turns out I really love it as well. I just love seeing people come into the class. They're unsure. They're thinking there's no way I'm going to be able to figure out how to use this pen. And by the end of it, people are totally ignoring me because they're so happy and throwing ink on the page and, you know, putting their hands in it. It's just so much fun to see people let go and just find a moment of peace for themselves. And so now I just try to chase that feeling with new classes, um, new style. So all the hours I spend playing, so to speak, I mean, it is playing, but it's also practice trying to come up with ideas of, of new ways to bring this to the fountain pen community and to pen shows. And, uh, so this last, uh, so the last show was Philly. So I, for the first time I did like a casual broad edge calligraphy, which was really hard, but also really very, um, affirming in a way, because I'm like, okay, I can do this. And people do walk out with some experience and knowledge. And of course it's not ever going to be perfect, but my goal is to just get people curious and so that they can take it home and they can practice or, um, take it, take it to the show floor and look for inks to play with. It's, it's been, it's a really fun journey. I love it. And you, you literally have like a slinging ink class, don't you? I do. I do. And I tell people, I say, um, don't wear white or anything light colored and you might end up with ink in your mouth or in your face, in your hair, in your ears. So just be ready for anything.		* Not super structured. It's kind of like, okay, let's hope this works out. And sometimes it works out better than others. And so it just very much captures me. And so it's very colorful. Yeah. I love hearing this. Like this is, it's, it's inspirational, honestly, to, to myself, to a lot of us, just the difficulty with allowing yourself to just be free and just kind of do whatever is, it's a challenge. It's like, you can't just, it's just not words, right? Like it's, it's not, it's, it's a long time of work and belief and struggle and just figuring yourself out. And to hear you say, it's like, oh yeah, I feel pretty good about this. And it's taken me like until last year to get it there. But yeah, I'm good about it. Yeah. Yeah. Which is shocking as well, because a lot of times we'll see beautifully curated feeds and everything looks perfect. And we might think, oh wow. They knew from the start what they wanted. I mean, it took me over a decade to find out who I am in the pen world, which is shocking as well. Because it's like, oh, it's Gourmet Pen. She knows what she's doing. Well, no, I have no idea what I'm doing, but I'm now finding it out. And I love it. Like I really, really love it. I love it too. And one of the things you're, you're finding out and sharing with others is your ability to teach at pen shows. Yeah. What made you, yeah, I was going to say you've started doing this very actively in the past few years. Tell us a little bit about your teaching, what classes you teach and why you like getting out there and helping other people at pen shows. Oh, this one is, this one's fun. I mean, I was kind of voluntold into this position by the Philly pen show organizers who are friends. And one of them asked, well, like, hey, why don't you come teach people how to use pilot parallels? And I was thinking, okay, I don't know what I'm doing. This is not something I am capable of or qualified for. And he said, that's kind of the point, you know, like it would be really casual and it's very much you and who you are. So that was 2019. Okay. I believe so. It was the year before everything locked down or two years before everything locked down. And, um, I just kind of went for it. Absolutely terrified because I had no idea what I was doing, but he said, you know, just pretend you're in one of your, like you're recording a video and you're talking to your audience. And so I just went for it because I thought, well, okay, what do you have to lose? And it turns out I really love it as well. I just love seeing people come into the class. They're unsure. They're thinking there's no way I'm going to be able to figure out how to use this pen. And by the end of it, people are totally ignoring me because they're so happy and throwing ink on the page and, you know, putting their hands in it. It's just so much fun to see people let go and just find a moment of peace for themselves. And so now I just try to chase that feeling with new classes, um, new style. So all the hours I spend playing, so to speak, I mean, it is playing, but it's also practice trying to come up with ideas of, of new ways to bring this to the fountain pen community and to pen shows. And, uh, so this last, uh, so the last show was Philly. So I, for the first time I did like a casual broad edge calligraphy, which was really hard, but also really very, um, affirming in a way, because I'm like, okay, I can do this. And people do walk out with some experience and knowledge. And of course it's not ever going to be perfect, but my goal is to just get people curious and so that they can take it home and they can practice or, um, take it, take it to the show floor and look for inks to play with. It's, it's been, it's a really fun journey. I love it. And you, you literally have like a slinging ink class, don't you? I do. I do. And I tell people, I say, um, don't wear white or anything light colored and you might end up with ink in your mouth or in your face, in your hair, in your ears. So just be ready for anything.
	* Don't drink the ink. Don't drink, do not drink the ink. So what, um, you, you may not have all the, the, the details or anything, but do you have any idea of what shows you're doing kind of the rest of the year? Yeah, I'm, I'm definitely booked for DC. Um, I'm working on a new workshop. That's going to be very different. Um, it will be more of a, of a, of an experience and I think it'll be very, very, it's going to be very intimate. Like it's a very small workshop. And so hopefully I'll have news about that soon. I would love to do Chicago, but, um, I'm just trying to save my pennies for, for the damage that I've already done. Right. It's been a hot start to the year. Yeah, exactly. Like first thing I'm like, Oh, look, here's a monarch that I absolutely cannot live without. And so, you know, you know how it goes. Yeah, for sure. For sure. All right. I gotta, I gotta ask you the unanswerable question probably.		* Don't drink the ink. Don't drink, do not drink the ink. So what, um, you, you may not have all the, the, the details or anything, but do you have any idea of what shows you're doing kind of the rest of the year? Yeah, I'm, I'm definitely booked for DC. Um, I'm working on a new workshop. That's going to be very different. Um, it will be more of a, of a, of an experience and I think it'll be very, very, it's going to be very intimate. Like it's a very small workshop. And so hopefully I'll have news about that soon. I would love to do Chicago, but, um, I'm just trying to save my pennies for, for the damage that I've already done. Right. It's been a hot start to the year. Yeah, exactly. Like first thing I'm like, Oh, look, here's a monarch that I absolutely cannot live without. And so, you know, you know how it goes. Yeah, for sure. For sure. All right. I gotta, I gotta ask you the unanswerable question probably.

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	* All right. So we've caught up on the news. We've caught up on the notes. Now we're going to catch up with you. Hi, Aziza. How's it going? Hi. Thank you. Yes. It's lovely. Delightful. Everything is so wonderful. Good. Good. And you're wonderful. And I got to, I got to see you recently at the Philadelphia ~~Penn~~ Show. And it's always a joy hanging out with you at ~~Penn~~ Shows.		* All right. So we've caught up on the news. We've caught up on the notes. Now we're going to catch up with you. Hi, Aziza. How's it going? Hi. Thank you. Yes. It's lovely. Delightful. Everything is so wonderful. Good. Good. And you're wonderful. And I got to, I got to see you recently at the Philadelphia Pen Show. And it's always a joy hanging out with you at Pen Shows.

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	== Aziza's stationery journey and background ==		== Aziza's stationery journey and background ==

	* Likewise. Of course. Yes. Yes. And I, you know, you know how long you've been doing this and, you know, I know all about you, but I'm not sure all of our listeners do. So can we get a little bit of your ~~stationary~~ story and, you know, how you got started in ~~stationary~~ and when you started sharing these things online, can we, uh, can we get a little background from you? Yeah, absolutely. It's, it's fortunately, it's a very simple story. I grew up with a father who also really likes pens and I would frequently steal his pens, which is delightful. And, um, I somehow amassed a small collection at the time. It was mostly gel pens and things like gin house, just because they had a lot of colors and it was in my price range because I was a broke university student.		* Likewise. Of course. Yes. Yes. And I, you know, you know how long you've been doing this and, you know, I know all about you, but I'm not sure all of our listeners do. So can we get a little bit of your stationery story and, you know, how you got started in stationery and when you started sharing these things online, can we, uh, can we get a little background from you? Yeah, absolutely. It's, it's fortunately, it's a very simple story. I grew up with a father who also really likes pens and I would frequently steal his pens, which is delightful. And, um, I somehow amassed a small collection at the time. It was mostly gel pens and things like gin house, just because they had a lot of colors and it was in my price range because I was a broke university student.
	* And, um, well, I just, one day I saw a posting from jet pens that they were looking for reviewers and they asked for a link to just like an example of your existing reviews. And I thought I was shook. I was like, oh my gosh, this is something that exists. I could talk about a pen for someone. And so I frantically wrote up a review as an example. And, um, I also did, I also did this because at the same time it worked out beautifully. I really wanted to go to the New York ~~stationary~~ show because I grew up in the prairies in, in Manitoba in Canada and ~~stationary~~ shops were just not a thing. So I thought, I cannot believe there is an entire show dedicated to ~~stationary~~. So this was in about 20, sorry, um, 2009. And so in 2010, I launched my blog specifically with the goal of being able to attend the New York ~~stationary~~ show as like media, as press, because I just wanted to go and touch everything. And the sad thing is I've never been, it's never gone, it's never happened. And it has been kind of downhill in terms of my sanity from there, but uphill in terms of my pen knowledge and collecting. Oh, that's amazing. So the, it was mostly started with, you know, standard pens, just like myself, you know, did you, did your dad, or did you have any like fountain pens like growing up that you would kind of dabble or destroy or get inky? My dad actually used, uh, the, the drafting pens, like the, um, like the repeatographs type of thing. Yes. Yes. Those. And he had sets of them and I actually still have the sets. Yes. So they're, they're very cool. And so that's what I was using. And, um, I, I mean, I ended up with my first fountain pen because he got it for me from jet pens. And at the time he said, pick whatever you want and I'll, I'll get it for you. And I was like, oh my gosh, this is a dream.		* And, um, well, I just, one day I saw a posting from jet pens that they were looking for reviewers and they asked for a link to just like an example of your existing reviews. And I thought I was shook. I was like, oh my gosh, this is something that exists. I could talk about a pen for someone. And so I frantically wrote up a review as an example. And, um, I also did, I also did this because at the same time it worked out beautifully. I really wanted to go to the New York stationery show because I grew up in the prairies in, in Manitoba in Canada and stationery shops were just not a thing. So I thought, I cannot believe there is an entire show dedicated to stationery. So this was in about 20, sorry, um, 2009. And so in 2010, I launched my blog specifically with the goal of being able to attend the New York stationery show as like media, as press, because I just wanted to go and touch everything. And the sad thing is I've never been, it's never gone, it's never happened. And it has been kind of downhill in terms of my sanity from there, but uphill in terms of my pen knowledge and collecting. Oh, that's amazing. So the, it was mostly started with, you know, standard pens, just like myself, you know, did you, did your dad, or did you have any like fountain pens like growing up that you would kind of dabble or destroy or get inky? My dad actually used, uh, the, the drafting pens, like the, um, like the repeatographs type of thing. Yes. Yes. Those. And he had sets of them and I actually still have the sets. Yes. So they're, they're very cool. And so that's what I was using. And, um, I, I mean, I ended up with my first fountain pen because he got it for me from jet pens. And at the time he said, pick whatever you want and I'll, I'll get it for you. And I was like, oh my gosh, this is a dream.
	* So I ended up with like a, a pilot, like the Cavalier, which is the really slim, very adorable colors. And a bottle of the Itoshizuku Yamabudo, which was my first like nice ink. Uh, so it, it's been, it's been a journey from gel pens, which I still love. And I still have plenty of to fountain pens. And just because fountain pens have so much more, so many more aspects to them, like how the, you know, like nib appearance and what engraving is on them and details of the pens. It's just a, it's just a bigger world to explore. So I'm still exploring the fountain pen world. Yeah. We'll never stop exploring. We'll never stop. I don't think. And you started sharing this exploration, like you said, in 2010, just to, just to fake your way into a trade show. Exactly. I'm very much into that, by the way. Um, isn't that a genius method? Totally. It is. It's like, Hey, I exist. Look at me. I mean, I didn't use it, but I could now. So how did, what was your idea of like starting it and then like growing it in, in what you, what types of articles you were wanting to share or what, you know, kind of information you wanted to share, uh, online? It was really a passion. Like I was just so excited. I was so excited that there were other people who were also excited about a gel pen, for example, or, uh, just a new ink color. I used to have the pilot petites, like the, the little itty bitty plastic pilots that were in really fun colors. And, you know, and just having someone else say, Oh, I love that so much. I'm so excited. Like, can I try your pen when I was in university? It was like, that was the motivating factor. It was just the excitement and the passion. So I was just writing, I wouldn't even call them reviews. When I look back at them, they were really just articles about my excitement about a pen. It's really kind of nerdy. No. Well, I mean, listen, I mean, yeah, but like your excitement has not waned like over all these years. And it was apparent back then when you started, I was like, Oh, Aziza is really into this and like, like your style and just your energy. And that is carried, carried through to this day. So I just, I, I just think it's like super awesome to, to see you continue to, you know, build and grow and keep doing this. It's pretty awesome. I'm a very passionate person. When I like something, I like it hard. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And, and also dangerously because it means I'll spend all my money on it, but that's okay. Yeah. So speaking of, of you liking all the things, I'm gonna have all the links to your stuff in the show notes and I was putting together links. I was like, Oh, I need the blog, the podcast, the shop, the Instagram, the YouTube, the Patreon. I do so many things. There's so many. But I love it. So you're always looking, you're always doing new things. Like you've, you've done a podcast for a while. Are you starting a new kind of YouTube show here recently, which I'm just kind of catching up on. Can you, can you talk about that for me and the listeners? Because I'm not even that familiar. It's not, it's, it's been a couple months now. And so I'm, I'm doing two. So one is, I think probably the more unusual one is gourmet pens and friends where it is just to hang out with a friend. But I really, it really began because I wanted to give people a, a place to talk about kind of like what's bothering them in, in a good way or something that's special to them. That's not just pens, something in their world or in their life that means a lot to them that they want others to hear about. So oddly enough, it's been a lot of mental health. We've talked a lot about grief, imposter syndrome, more grief, loss. And what we're finding as we go is how much it ties back to the pen world because we are turning to not just our pens and instruments to cope with this stuff, but we're also turning to the friends we've made in the pen world for love and support. And so it's really just a place where we hang out for love and support. I think that's beautiful. It is. It's very, it is emotionally heavy because I mean, sometimes after we go off air, we're kind of a little weepy, you know? Um, and that might be unusual for my channel because usually my channel's very, um, annoyingly upbeat probably. And, uh, I'm just trying to be more honest, give people a more realistic look of what someone else's life might be. And, um, on the other end of the spectrum, I'm doing just myself. It's just live streams late at night because that's when I function best. And, uh, it's just a place where I talk about whatever I'm playing with, like whatever new pen I'm looking at, um, doing some guided inky messes. It's, it's kind of a playtime, but more of a, a live stream of consciousness, which is a little disturbing.		* So I ended up with like a, a pilot, like the Cavalier, which is the really slim, very adorable colors. And a bottle of the Itoshizuku Yamabudo, which was my first like nice ink. Uh, so it, it's been, it's been a journey from gel pens, which I still love. And I still have plenty of to fountain pens. And just because fountain pens have so much more, so many more aspects to them, like how the, you know, like nib appearance and what engraving is on them and details of the pens. It's just a, it's just a bigger world to explore. So I'm still exploring the fountain pen world. Yeah. We'll never stop exploring. We'll never stop. I don't think. And you started sharing this exploration, like you said, in 2010, just to, just to fake your way into a trade show. Exactly. I'm very much into that, by the way. Um, isn't that a genius method? Totally. It is. It's like, Hey, I exist. Look at me. I mean, I didn't use it, but I could now. So how did, what was your idea of like starting it and then like growing it in, in what you, what types of articles you were wanting to share or what, you know, kind of information you wanted to share, uh, online? It was really a passion. Like I was just so excited. I was so excited that there were other people who were also excited about a gel pen, for example, or, uh, just a new ink color. I used to have the pilot petites, like the, the little itty bitty plastic pilots that were in really fun colors. And, you know, and just having someone else say, Oh, I love that so much. I'm so excited. Like, can I try your pen when I was in university? It was like, that was the motivating factor. It was just the excitement and the passion. So I was just writing, I wouldn't even call them reviews. When I look back at them, they were really just articles about my excitement about a pen. It's really kind of nerdy. No. Well, I mean, listen, I mean, yeah, but like your excitement has not waned like over all these years. And it was apparent back then when you started, I was like, Oh, Aziza is really into this and like, like your style and just your energy. And that is carried, carried through to this day. So I just, I, I just think it's like super awesome to, to see you continue to, you know, build and grow and keep doing this. It's pretty awesome. I'm a very passionate person. When I like something, I like it hard. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And, and also dangerously because it means I'll spend all my money on it, but that's okay. Yeah. So speaking of, of you liking all the things, I'm gonna have all the links to your stuff in the show notes and I was putting together links. I was like, Oh, I need the blog, the podcast, the shop, the Instagram, the YouTube, the Patreon. I do so many things. There's so many. But I love it. So you're always looking, you're always doing new things. Like you've, you've done a podcast for a while. Are you starting a new kind of YouTube show here recently, which I'm just kind of catching up on. Can you, can you talk about that for me and the listeners? Because I'm not even that familiar. It's not, it's, it's been a couple months now. And so I'm, I'm doing two. So one is, I think probably the more unusual one is gourmet pens and friends where it is just to hang out with a friend. But I really, it really began because I wanted to give people a, a place to talk about kind of like what's bothering them in, in a good way or something that's special to them. That's not just pens, something in their world or in their life that means a lot to them that they want others to hear about. So oddly enough, it's been a lot of mental health. We've talked a lot about grief, imposter syndrome, more grief, loss. And what we're finding as we go is how much it ties back to the pen world because we are turning to not just our pens and instruments to cope with this stuff, but we're also turning to the friends we've made in the pen world for love and support. And so it's really just a place where we hang out for love and support. I think that's beautiful. It is. It's very, it is emotionally heavy because I mean, sometimes after we go off air, we're kind of a little weepy, you know? Um, and that might be unusual for my channel because usually my channel's very, um, annoyingly upbeat probably. And, uh, I'm just trying to be more honest, give people a more realistic look of what someone else's life might be. And, um, on the other end of the spectrum, I'm doing just myself. It's just live streams late at night because that's when I function best. And, uh, it's just a place where I talk about whatever I'm playing with, like whatever new pen I'm looking at, um, doing some guided inky messes. It's, it's kind of a playtime, but more of a, a live stream of consciousness, which is a little disturbing.
	* It's a little disturbing. It's like, it's like, I know Aziza, I can laugh really hard at that. Yeah.		* It's a little disturbing. It's like, it's like, I know Aziza, I can laugh really hard at that. Yeah.

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	* From Relay, this is The Pen Addict, episode number 654. Today's show is brought to you by Pen Chalet. My name is Brad Dowdy, and I'm joined by Aziza Asgharali this week. How are you, Aziza? Hello, I am doing absolutely fantastic. How are you? Good, good. I should just to clarify, like, right from the jump, I should say Aziza, aka Gourmet Pens, because I could just say Gourmet Pens is here and everyone would go, oh, okay, yes, I'm in. It's true. Most people don't know my name. No, no. I've gone to places and said, hi, I'm Aziza, because they have invited me. And then they stare at me blankly and I've said, no, no, I'm Gourmet Pens. Oh. I don't really even bother with my name. Yeah, you just dropped the, do you know who I am, right? Yeah, like, do they even know? Yeah, that's my thing, right? Like, I just got back from California, the California pen show, and we're going to talk pen shows later in this episode. And I'm standing in line, you know, just like, you know, someone who buys their ticket does, because I bought my ticket. And my friends are asking me, like, why are you standing in line? It's like, I'm just an attendee buying a ticket to the show. I don't have a shirt that says, do you know who I am on it? Okay, you know what? Now we need to have a shirt for you with your face on it that says, do you know who I am? And the whole, the entire pen community needs to have one so we can all wear one. Let's definitely not do that. That's a good way to, like, embarrass me and make me run away. So I think my heads at the Chicago pen show last year, which Kimberly and Sarah brought around to the show, I think that was maximum embarrassment. I did get to be your face for one of them. You did. You did. I appreciate that. It was very exciting. I appreciate that. It was a joy. Yeah, it was a highlight. And it's a joy having you here on the show with me. I didn't look in the, as, you know, a little bit of behind the scenes, our pre-show prep here. Aziza is, you know, bearing with me, panicking, smashing all the buttons. The one thing I forgot to do and put in the show notes was, when was the last episode we talked? I think you've only been on the show once. And it has been a very long time. Yeah, it was a long time ago. So we'll have to look. I'll put a link in the show notes. I need to go back and listen to that. But it was probably like 10 years ago. Can you believe we've been doing this that long? Because I'm pretty sure I was living in the Netherlands still. So it was a long time ago. And I moved back to Canada in 2017. So it was pre-2017. I am shocked because I saw episode 654 and I thought, oh my goodness, that is impressive. It's madness, but mostly it's impressive. Yeah, it's something. I like, I don't know exactly what it is, but no, it feels good. Makes me happy. I found it. Panatic number 191. Oh, this was the show with the greatest title of all time. Still might rank up there. Do you recall? Like, there's no way you'll get this without looking it up. 191? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Okay, I thought for sure it was double digits. But this is, that was 2016 though. So you had the timeframe right. Okay. Okay. Oh, this is the one there where Myke was sick, I believe. Yes. Yeah. So this was like a last minute fill in the title of this episode, Tahitian Black Lip Oyster. Oh my gosh. I remember when I bought that pen.		* From Relay, this is The Pen Addict, episode number 654. Today's show is brought to you by Pen Chalet. My name is Brad Dowdy, and I'm joined by Aziza Asgharali this week. How are you, Aziza? Hello, I am doing absolutely fantastic. How are you? Good, good. I should just to clarify, like, right from the jump, I should say Aziza, aka Gourmet Pens, because I could just say Gourmet Pens is here and everyone would go, oh, okay, yes, I'm in. It's true. Most people don't know my name. No, no. I've gone to places and said, hi, I'm Aziza, because they have invited me. And then they stare at me blankly and I've said, no, no, I'm Gourmet Pens. Oh. I don't really even bother with my name. Yeah, you just dropped the, do you know who I am, right? Yeah, like, do they even know? Yeah, that's my thing, right? Like, I just got back from California, the California pen show, and we're going to talk pen shows later in this episode. And I'm standing in line, you know, just like, you know, someone who buys their ticket does, because I bought my ticket. And my friends are asking me, like, why are you standing in line? It's like, I'm just an attendee buying a ticket to the show. I don't have a shirt that says, do you know who I am on it? Okay, you know what? Now we need to have a shirt for you with your face on it that says, do you know who I am? And the whole, the entire pen community needs to have one so we can all wear one. Let's definitely not do that. That's a good way to, like, embarrass me and make me run away. So I think my heads at the Chicago pen show last year, which Kimberly and Sarah brought around to the show, I think that was maximum embarrassment. I did get to be your face for one of them. You did. You did. I appreciate that. It was very exciting. I appreciate that. It was a joy. Yeah, it was a highlight. And it's a joy having you here on the show with me. I didn't look in the, as, you know, a little bit of behind the scenes, our pre-show prep here. Aziza is, you know, bearing with me, panicking, smashing all the buttons. The one thing I forgot to do and put in the show notes was, when was the last episode we talked? I think you've only been on the show once. And it has been a very long time. Yeah, it was a long time ago. So we'll have to look. I'll put a link in the show notes. I need to go back and listen to that. But it was probably like 10 years ago. Can you believe we've been doing this that long? Because I'm pretty sure I was living in the Netherlands still. So it was a long time ago. And I moved back to Canada in 2017. So it was pre-2017. I am shocked because I saw episode 654 and I thought, oh my goodness, that is impressive. It's madness, but mostly it's impressive. Yeah, it's something. I like, I don't know exactly what it is, but no, it feels good. Makes me happy. I found it. Panatic number 191. Oh, this was the show with the greatest title of all time. Still might rank up there. Do you recall? Like, there's no way you'll get this without looking it up. 191? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Okay, I thought for sure it was double digits. But this is, that was 2016 though. So you had the timeframe right. Okay. Okay. Oh, this is the one there where Myke was sick, I believe. Yes. Yeah. So this was like a last minute fill in the title of this episode, Tahitian Black Lip Oyster. Oh my gosh. I remember when I bought that pen.
	* And I also remember saying I was never going to sell it. I did sell it. Yeah. Yeah. So what, what was that pen? Do you remember? That was the Mont Blanc. It was their Solitaire 146. Okay. And, and it was, it had rotten strips on it. I see it now. I found it. It was, it was redonk. Yeah. We have a link in the show notes. That isn't, that's an amazing pen. That's a pretty U pen, but I could see, you know, things, things change. It was a me pen. If I had known about, if I had the money at the time and I had known about the nib exchange program, I would have put a really fat nib on it, but it was a medium. A womp womp. Womp womp. Even a nib grind wouldn't have been sufficient. Yeah. We're not even going to wait until we get into the proper conversation. What is the minimum nib size you require on a pen? I, at least a broad. Okay. At least. But I mean, I could detail later, but I, there are exceptions. Okay. But for the, for most of the time, if somebody says it's less than a broad, I'm like, mm-mm, mm-mm. Yeah. We're going to find out those exceptions, maybe right here in these first couple of topics. So one thing I wanted to do, since, you know, I am, if you've been listening to the show, Myke's out for several weeks. So I'm having a bunch of guests on and having my friends on and we're going to talk about things. And mostly, you know, we're just going to chat. But I still wanted to keep up with the news and talk about some new pens that are coming out or any new topics. So I'm going to pick your brain with these topics, too. So the first thing is I had a little bit of follow-up from last week's episode. So I bought a Sailor, Sailor Pro Gear Mini at the California Pen Show. And I was talking about the barrel threading and how I got it backwards in last week's episode. The most current editions do not have the barrel threading for the cap on the back. Right. The older edition. Yeah. They're just friction fit. So the older editions, which by older, I mean like a few years, have the threaded cap. Now, Sailor being Sailor, there are exceptions to this rule, right? Like that's just how Sailor rolls. They'll do what they want. Right. We'll accept it because we like their colors and nibs. Yeah, exactly. So like if a store makes a custom Sailor and they use a 21K nib and they get threads on the barrel, it's a whole thing. So as a norm, the new modern minis, which I still call the Sapporo, which is the old name. And I can't get that out of my head. That's a cuter name anyway. It is. It's a much better name. So what I have to ask you is, are you a Sailor person at all? Because like I'm in that Japanese fine nib realm and that is the exact opposite of what you're into. So what are your thoughts just in general? In general, I am a Sailor person because they have the music and Zoom nib options. Of course they do. Naturally. Of course. And I'm also attracted to the fact that they release a lot of colors, even though I hate it. Because I have to fight with myself to not purchase every single color I like. Like I like that there are color options and not just, oh, here's a black pen. Here's a smoke pen. Here's an amber. Yeah. I love Pilots, but just saying. Oh, sure. Like, I mean, there's nothing I give Pilots more grief than that. Like when they're very well represented at the shows that you and I attend. So at least the pilot North American, they're like, yeah, you know, we really don't have a lot of say in that. And I was like, I get it. Fine. But I'm just saying. But you must know. Have you seen this light blue and pink model over here? Gosh, I know. I know. So Sailor does still get me because of that. Of course, you know, they make some good oranges. So I get into orange. But they are very good with the colors and any color they pick, whether they choose like a pastel soft color or something really intense. They execute it really well. So it's very hard to resist for me. It is. It is. I stare and try to behave like more often than not. Because there's so many. Yeah. I would just end up with 10 of them and I need like three of them I'd be happy with. Right. So. Yeah. It's like I don't need all of them, but they're beautiful. They're mine. So Zoom nib, music nib, that's your jam. Right. Yeah. For sure. What about, I guess this leads into the next question or the next little topic I wanted to mention, because people were sending me this knowing what I like. The Kaweco Sport Honey just got dropped. So that is their collection edition for the small plastic barrel Kaweco, you know, sport classic, but it's called the Kaweco Sport Collection. It's gorgeous. It's beautiful. I'm a Kaweco Sport lover. Number one, do you like mini pens in general? In general, I don't. Yeah. There is a good reason for it, mostly because I don't like to use cartridges or converters.		* And I also remember saying I was never going to sell it. I did sell it. Yeah. Yeah. So what, what was that pen? Do you remember? That was the Mont Blanc. It was their Solitaire 146. Okay. And, and it was, it had rotten strips on it. I see it now. I found it. It was, it was redonk. Yeah. We have a link in the show notes. That isn't, that's an amazing pen. That's a pretty U pen, but I could see, you know, things, things change. It was a me pen. If I had known about, if I had the money at the time and I had known about the nib exchange program, I would have put a really fat nib on it, but it was a medium. A womp womp. Womp womp. Even a nib grind wouldn't have been sufficient. Yeah. We're not even going to wait until we get into the proper conversation. What is the minimum nib size you require on a pen? I, at least a broad. Okay. At least. But I mean, I could detail later, but I, there are exceptions. Okay. But for the, for most of the time, if somebody says it's less than a broad, I'm like, mm-mm, mm-mm. Yeah. We're going to find out those exceptions, maybe right here in these first couple of topics. So one thing I wanted to do, since, you know, I am, if you've been listening to the show, Myke's out for several weeks. So I'm having a bunch of guests on and having my friends on and we're going to talk about things. And mostly, you know, we're just going to chat. But I still wanted to keep up with the news and talk about some new pens that are coming out or any new topics. So I'm going to pick your brain with these topics, too. So the first thing is I had a little bit of follow-up from last week's episode. So I bought a Sailor, Sailor Pro Gear Mini at the California Pen Show. And I was talking about the barrel threading and how I got it backwards in last week's episode. The most current editions do not have the barrel threading for the cap on the back. Right. The older edition. Yeah. They're just friction fit. So the older editions, which by older, I mean like a few years, have the threaded cap. Now, Sailor being Sailor, there are exceptions to this rule, right? Like that's just how Sailor rolls. They'll do what they want. Right. We'll accept it because we like their colors and nibs. Yeah, exactly. So like if a store makes a custom Sailor and they use a 21K nib and they get threads on the barrel, it's a whole thing. So as a norm, the new modern minis, which I still call the Sapporo, which is the old name. And I can't get that out of my head. That's a cuter name anyway. It is. It's a much better name. So what I have to ask you is, are you a Sailor person at all? Because like I'm in that Japanese fine nib realm and that is the exact opposite of what you're into. So what are your thoughts just in general? In general, I am a Sailor person because they have the music and Zoom nib options. Of course they do. Naturally. Of course. And I'm also attracted to the fact that they release a lot of colors, even though I hate it. Because I have to fight with myself to not purchase every single color I like. Like I like that there are color options and not just, oh, here's a black pen. Here's a smoke pen. Here's an amber. Yeah. I love Pilots, but just saying. Oh, sure. Like, I mean, there's nothing I give Pilots more grief than that. Like when they're very well represented at the shows that you and I attend. So at least the pilot North American, they're like, yeah, you know, we really don't have a lot of say in that. And I was like, I get it. Fine. But I'm just saying. But you must know. Have you seen this light blue and pink model over here? Gosh, I know. I know. So Sailor does still get me because of that. Of course, you know, they make some good oranges. So I get into orange. But they are very good with the colors and any color they pick, whether they choose like a pastel soft color or something really intense. They execute it really well. So it's very hard to resist for me. It is. It is. I stare and try to behave like more often than not. Because there's so many. Yeah. I would just end up with 10 of them and I need like three of them I'd be happy with. Right. So. Yeah. It's like I don't need all of them, but they're beautiful. They're mine. So Zoom nib, music nib, that's your jam. Right. Yeah. For sure. What about, I guess this leads into the next question or the next little topic I wanted to mention, because people were sending me this knowing what I like. The Kaweco Sport Honey just got dropped. So that is their collection edition for the small plastic barrel Kaweco, you know, sport classic, but it's called the Kaweco Sport Collection. It's gorgeous. It's beautiful. I'm a Kaweco Sport lover. Number one, do you like mini pens in general? In general, I don't. Yeah. There is a good reason for it, mostly because I don't like to use cartridges or converters.

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