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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* I don't understand how that was a cost-effective project for anybody involved. I mean, obviously, the affiliate money is good, right? Sure, sure, sure. But still, it's just like that to me is, like, I'm really pleased that they did it that way because that is, I think, the right way to do it if you're going to have someone do it. But it's just like I don't understand how that was, like, a cost-effective exercise. Yeah, I thought about that a lot while we were going through it. So, yeah. But, hey, it was interesting. It was an interesting process. It was kind of eye-opening how hard Alex worked at this and how much he wanted to get it right. And it was kind of cool. Like, I would get emails. It's like, is this the right wording? Am I going to get yelled at? He would always ask me. He was very worried about the context of, like, am I saying something dumb for found-pen people? It was great. It was really interesting behind the scenes. So shout-out, Alex. Really, really fun project to help out with. So, all right. So, like I was saying, this got me thinking about the top five lists that have lived on the Panatic site forever. They don't get updated often. I know when I talked about the last update a couple years ago, you know, how little change there can be in some of these categories. So, between this Esquire list and the past few days of thinking about this in a stream yesterday where I'll talk about one of the topics that I brought up. It's, we talked about inks. And I was trying to, thinking about how do I look at this top five list and what do I need to do? So, this is just the beginning of me thinking about the changes that, I don't know, maybe are coming down the pipe for the top five list. I don't know that I have. I would like to rethink the categories a little bit. I think I have them in a good place. I changed just, I changed the first few fountain pen categories. And that's where we're going to start today with the fountain pen categories. With this last update from pure price points to the first two lists being the beginners list, which I mean like absolute beginners. Someone's buying their first fountain pen or you're buying a first fountain pen for someone. And then the next list. So, you go from, you know, the starting point. And if you're interested, you looked at what's next. And then after that, you start looking into price brackets, right? So, the beginner list, the original top five, or the current, I should say, top five beginner pens list is the Platinum Preppy, the Pilot Metropolitan, the Kaweco, excuse me, the Pilot Kakuno, the Kaweco Perkyo, and the Faber-Castell Grip. So, I look at this list and that's in order. So, Preppy one, Metro two, Kakuno three, Perkyo four, FC Grip five. I look at this list and Preppy is absolutely locked in at number one without question.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* I don't understand how that was a cost-effective project for anybody involved. I mean, obviously, the affiliate money is good, right? Sure, sure, sure. But still, it's just like that to me is, like, I'm really pleased that they did it that way because that is, I think, the right way to do it if you're going to have someone do it. But it's just like I don't understand how that was, like, a cost-effective exercise. Yeah, I thought about that a lot while we were going through it. So, yeah. But, hey, it was interesting. It was an interesting process. It was kind of eye-opening how hard Alex worked at this and how much he wanted to get it right. And it was kind of cool. Like, I would get emails. It's like, is this the right wording? Am I going to get yelled at? He would always ask me. He was very worried about the context of, like, am I saying something dumb for found-pen people? It was great. It was really interesting behind the scenes. So shout-out, Alex. Really, really fun project to help out with. So, all right. So, like I was saying, this got me thinking about the top five lists that have lived on the Panatic site forever. They don't get updated often. I know when I talked about the last update a couple years ago, you know, how little change there can be in some of these categories. So, between this Esquire list and the past few days of thinking about this in a stream yesterday where I'll talk about one of the topics that I brought up. It's, we talked about inks. And I was trying to, thinking about how do I look at this top five list and what do I need to do? So, this is just the beginning of me thinking about the changes that, I don't know, maybe are coming down the pipe for the top five list. I don't know that I have. I would like to rethink the categories a little bit. I think I have them in a good place. I changed just, I changed the first few fountain pen categories. And that's where we're going to start today with the fountain pen categories. With this last update from pure price points to the first two lists being the beginners list, which I mean like absolute beginners. Someone's buying their first fountain pen or you're buying a first fountain pen for someone. And then the next list. So, you go from, you know, the starting point. And if you're interested, you looked at what's next. And then after that, you start looking into price brackets, right? So, the beginner list, the original top five, or the current, I should say, top five beginner pens list is the Platinum Preppy, the Pilot Metropolitan, the Kaweco, excuse me, the Pilot Kakuno, the Kaweco Perkyo, and the Faber-Castell Grip. So, I look at this list and that's in order. So, Preppy one, Metro two, Kakuno three, Perkyo four, FC Grip five. I look at this list and Preppy is absolutely locked in at number one without question.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* And then after that, it's like all bets are off. I think the Kakuno should be there and I think the Perkyo should be there. And the Metro should probably be there by default. So, what else would go in there? And I'm not just thinking about the last two years of products being launched. I'm thinking about has something, you know, been around for 10 years that has really, you know, done a good job or 20 years. It's like I don't know what real change would look like in this list and not just change for change sakes. So, I was looking at this list compared to the next list, which we'll get to in a minute. And one of the pins not listed is the Kaweco Classic Sport. So, one of the things I'll reiterate several times as we kind of go through this exercise is why this list exists. This is a recommendations list. This is not my personal favorite list, right? So, this page is built for someone to be sent the link and be recommended some products that, you know, I can vouch for, the community can vouch for, you're going to have a good experience with, that aren't my specific, you know, my specific list for my personal use could differ greatly. Right? So, that's the context to kind of keep in here, keep in mind.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* And then after that, it's like all bets are off. I think the Kakuno should be there and I think the Perkyo should be there. And the Metro should probably be there by default. So, what else would go in there? And I'm not just thinking about the last two years of products being launched. I'm thinking about has something, you know, been around for 10 years that has really, you know, done a good job or 20 years. It's like I don't know what real change would look like in this list and not just change for change sakes. So, I was looking at this list compared to the next list, which we'll get to in a minute. And one of the pins not listed is the Kaweco Classic Sport. So, one of the things I'll reiterate several times as we kind of go through this exercise is why this list exists. This is a recommendations list. This is not my personal favorite list, right? So, this page is built for someone to be sent the link and be recommended some products that, you know, I can vouch for, the community can vouch for, you're going to have a good experience with, that aren't my specific, you know, my specific list for my personal use could differ greatly. Right? So, that's the context to kind of keep in here, keep in mind.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* So, could I recommend the Classic Sport blindly to someone? And I don't know. I don't know. Like, maybe that needs to go into the next list, which again, we'll get into that in just a second. Yeah, I think there is a question too. Because it's a little bit weird. Like, I'm looking at these and a lot of the beginner pens, they are actually focused towards children. And that might not be the right selection of products. Right. So, like, the Pelican Twist that was in the Esquire article is really what kicked this off. It's like, that will never be on this list. That does not mean it's not a good pen. But it's not super far away from the Cocoono and the Puccio. It's not. It's not. But they're more traditional, right? That's where you get in trouble with, like, recommending something with, like, the Twist that has such a weird grip section. Right. The Lamy ABC, which is my favorite. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's great. So, like, my point in talking about this is just to kind of get the ball rolling in my thought process. What's different here? And I'm looking for y'all's feedback too, right? If you have, like, really strong feelings about any topic on this list, email me. Hello at <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Penninect</del>.com. I'd love to hear from you. You know, and I did get some feedback on inks, which we'll talk about later. So, moving from that beginner list, the next list is literally called the next list, right? So, this is the list that I, the theory is you've discovered, you like the Platinum Preppy. You can use a fountain pen. You like that you could put purple ink in your Metropolitan or whatever pen you're picking. And, okay, what's next? What else is out there? So, this is where the TWSBI Eco comes in, the Lamy Safari, the Lamy Studio. I went straight to the Kaweco AL Sport. I didn't even put the Classic Sport here, which I think it probably needs to be there instead of the AL Sport, just from a price perspective. And then the TWSBI VAC 700. All of those are under $100, but I really didn't consider the price on these, just assuming that they'd be sub $100, right? That when people are making the jump from a Platinum Preppy, they're not going straight to a $250 pen, you know, most of the time, right? So, they want to go, oh, well, I want a bottle of ink, and what would be good to use with that, you know, TWSBI Eco, right? Something good with that. You get a lot of, in this group, you can get a lot of different nib sizes, you know, maybe not a ton like in the Kawecos, but, you know, they have up to broad and extra fines and things like that. But this is a tough cat. I'm going to say this a lot. This is a tough category because, and the reason why this category exists is because the $50 to $100 category has always been really challenging for me to pick recommendations from. So, you know, that's why this ranges from like $25 to $30 pens up to like $80 and $90 pens because I think they're all kind of the valid, hey, here's my next fountain pen. This is the real introductory into, this is really, you're getting into the hobby once you start shopping here. And honestly, for a lot of people, you can stop shopping here, right? This can be the end for a lot of people and be very valid for an awesome like fountain pen writing experience.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* So, could I recommend the Classic Sport blindly to someone? And I don't know. I don't know. Like, maybe that needs to go into the next list, which again, we'll get into that in just a second. Yeah, I think there is a question too. Because it's a little bit weird. Like, I'm looking at these and a lot of the beginner pens, they are actually focused towards children. And that might not be the right selection of products. Right. So, like, the Pelican Twist that was in the Esquire article is really what kicked this off. It's like, that will never be on this list. That does not mean it's not a good pen. But it's not super far away from the Cocoono and the Puccio. It's not. It's not. But they're more traditional, right? That's where you get in trouble with, like, recommending something with, like, the Twist that has such a weird grip section. Right. The Lamy ABC, which is my favorite. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's great. So, like, my point in talking about this is just to kind of get the ball rolling in my thought process. What's different here? And I'm looking for y'all's feedback too, right? If you have, like, really strong feelings about any topic on this list, email me. Hello at <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Peninect</ins>.com. I'd love to hear from you. You know, and I did get some feedback on inks, which we'll talk about later. So, moving from that beginner list, the next list is literally called the next list, right? So, this is the list that I, the theory is you've discovered, you like the Platinum Preppy. You can use a fountain pen. You like that you could put purple ink in your Metropolitan or whatever pen you're picking. And, okay, what's next? What else is out there? So, this is where the TWSBI Eco comes in, the Lamy Safari, the Lamy Studio. I went straight to the Kaweco AL Sport. I didn't even put the Classic Sport here, which I think it probably needs to be there instead of the AL Sport, just from a price perspective. And then the TWSBI VAC 700. All of those are under $100, but I really didn't consider the price on these, just assuming that they'd be sub $100, right? That when people are making the jump from a Platinum Preppy, they're not going straight to a $250 pen, you know, most of the time, right? So, they want to go, oh, well, I want a bottle of ink, and what would be good to use with that, you know, TWSBI Eco, right? Something good with that. You get a lot of, in this group, you can get a lot of different nib sizes, you know, maybe not a ton like in the Kawecos, but, you know, they have up to broad and extra fines and things like that. But this is a tough cat. I'm going to say this a lot. This is a tough category because, and the reason why this category exists is because the $50 to $100 category has always been really challenging for me to pick recommendations from. So, you know, that's why this ranges from like $25 to $30 pens up to like $80 and $90 pens because I think they're all kind of the valid, hey, here's my next fountain pen. This is the real introductory into, this is really, you're getting into the hobby once you start shopping here. And honestly, for a lot of people, you can stop shopping here, right? This can be the end for a lot of people and be very valid for an awesome like fountain pen writing experience.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* So, we have those two kind of lists that work together, I think. And, you know, I'll be thinking about what can go in there. One comment I want to make here, because I think I will get a lot of comments on it and they're very valid.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* So, we have those two kind of lists that work together, I think. And, you know, I'll be thinking about what can go in there. One comment I want to make here, because I think I will get a lot of comments on it and they're very valid.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* The other bit of context is when I'm making a recommendation, I'm generally recommending products that are easy to require and are bought through retail with support systems in place for any issues that might arise. And the reason I'm categorizing it like that is because brands like Jen Howe and Moonman and some of the other similar types of pens are really, really good choices for this list. But they're not widely available through like supported retail networks. You can get them a lot through Amazon, right? Or some company, some retailers are starting to carry Jen Howe more. And if we start to see that more, then I'll start to consider listing them more because they are really good quality for the money. But until they have more of a representation in broader stationery retail, I'm not including them in the list. But those could go in like I have honorable mention sections or like note sections for each of these lists. That's where I would put something like the Jen Howe's and Moonman's and some of those other like good quality pens that aren't very expensive.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* The other bit of context is when I'm making a recommendation, I'm generally recommending products that are easy to require and are bought through retail with support systems in place for any issues that might arise. And the reason I'm categorizing it like that is because brands like Jen Howe and Moonman and some of the other similar types of pens are really, really good choices for this list. But they're not widely available through like supported retail networks. You can get them a lot through Amazon, right? Or some company, some retailers are starting to carry Jen Howe more. And if we start to see that more, then I'll start to consider listing them more because they are really good quality for the money. But until they have more of a representation in broader stationery retail, I'm not including them in the list. But those could go in like I have honorable mention sections or like note sections for each of these lists. That's where I would put something like the Jen Howe's and Moonman's and some of those other like good quality pens that aren't very expensive.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* So, could I recommend the Classic Sport blindly to someone? And I don't know. I don't know. Like, maybe that needs to go into the next list, which again, we'll get into that in just a second. Yeah, I think there is a question too. Because it's a little bit weird. Like, I'm looking at these and a lot of the beginner pens, they are actually focused towards children. And that might not be the right selection of products. Right. So, like, the Pelican Twist that was in the Esquire article is really what kicked this off. It's like, that will never be on this list. That does not mean it's not a good pen. But it's not super far away from the Cocoono and the Puccio. It's not. It's not. But they're more traditional, right? That's where you get in trouble with, like, recommending something with, like, the Twist that has such a weird grip section. Right. The Lamy ABC, which is my favorite. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's great. So, like, my point in talking about this is just to kind of get the ball rolling in my thought process. What's different here? And I'm looking for y'all's feedback too, right? If you have, like, really strong feelings about any topic on this list, email me. Hello at Penninect.com. I'd love to hear from you. You know, and I did get some feedback on inks, which we'll talk about later. So, moving from that beginner list, the next list is literally called the next list, right? So, this is the list that I, the theory is you've discovered, you like the Platinum Preppy. You can use a fountain pen. You like that you could put purple ink in your Metropolitan or whatever pen you're picking. And, okay, what's next? What else is out there? So, this is where the TWSBI Eco comes in, the Lamy Safari, the Lamy Studio. I went straight to the Kaweco AL Sport. I didn't even put the Classic Sport here, which I think it probably needs to be there instead of the AL Sport, just from a price perspective. And then the TWSBI VAC 700. All of those are under $100, but I really didn't consider the price on these, just assuming that they'd be sub $100, right? That when people are making the jump from a Platinum Preppy, they're not going straight to a $250 pen, you know, most of the time, right? So, they want to go, oh, well, I want a bottle of ink, and what would be good to use with that, you know, TWSBI Eco, right? Something good with that. You get a lot of, in this group, you can get a lot of different nib sizes, you know, maybe not a ton like in the Kawecos, but, you know, they have up to broad and extra fines and things like that. But this is a tough cat. I'm going to say this a lot. This is a tough category because, and the reason why this category exists is because the $50 to $100 category has always been really challenging for me to pick recommendations from. So, you know, that's why this ranges from like $25 to $30 pens up to like $80 and $90 pens because I think they're all kind of the valid, hey, here's my next fountain pen. This is the real introductory into, this is really, you're getting into the hobby once you start shopping here. And honestly, for a lot of people, you can stop shopping here, right? This can be the end for a lot of people and be very valid for an awesome like fountain pen writing experience.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* So, could I recommend the Classic Sport blindly to someone? And I don't know. I don't know. Like, maybe that needs to go into the next list, which again, we'll get into that in just a second. Yeah, I think there is a question too. Because it's a little bit weird. Like, I'm looking at these and a lot of the beginner pens, they are actually focused towards children. And that might not be the right selection of products. Right. So, like, the Pelican Twist that was in the Esquire article is really what kicked this off. It's like, that will never be on this list. That does not mean it's not a good pen. But it's not super far away from the Cocoono and the Puccio. It's not. It's not. But they're more traditional, right? That's where you get in trouble with, like, recommending something with, like, the Twist that has such a weird grip section. Right. The Lamy ABC, which is my favorite. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's great. So, like, my point in talking about this is just to kind of get the ball rolling in my thought process. What's different here? And I'm looking for y'all's feedback too, right? If you have, like, really strong feelings about any topic on this list, email me. Hello at Penninect.com. I'd love to hear from you. You know, and I did get some feedback on inks, which we'll talk about later. So, moving from that beginner list, the next list is literally called the next list, right? So, this is the list that I, the theory is you've discovered, you like the Platinum Preppy. You can use a fountain pen. You like that you could put purple ink in your Metropolitan or whatever pen you're picking. And, okay, what's next? What else is out there? So, this is where the TWSBI Eco comes in, the Lamy Safari, the Lamy Studio. I went straight to the Kaweco AL Sport. I didn't even put the Classic Sport here, which I think it probably needs to be there instead of the AL Sport, just from a price perspective. And then the TWSBI VAC 700. All of those are under $100, but I really didn't consider the price on these, just assuming that they'd be sub $100, right? That when people are making the jump from a Platinum Preppy, they're not going straight to a $250 pen, you know, most of the time, right? So, they want to go, oh, well, I want a bottle of ink, and what would be good to use with that, you know, TWSBI Eco, right? Something good with that. You get a lot of, in this group, you can get a lot of different nib sizes, you know, maybe not a ton like in the Kawecos, but, you know, they have up to broad and extra fines and things like that. But this is a tough cat. I'm going to say this a lot. This is a tough category because, and the reason why this category exists is because the $50 to $100 category has always been really challenging for me to pick recommendations from. So, you know, that's why this ranges from like $25 to $30 pens up to like $80 and $90 pens because I think they're all kind of the valid, hey, here's my next fountain pen. This is the real introductory into, this is really, you're getting into the hobby once you start shopping here. And honestly, for a lot of people, you can stop shopping here, right? This can be the end for a lot of people and be very valid for an awesome like fountain pen writing experience.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* The other bit of context is when I'm making a recommendation, I'm generally recommending products that are easy to require and are bought through retail with support systems in place for any issues that might arise. And the reason I'm categorizing it like that is because brands like Jen Howe and Moonman and some of the other similar types of pens are really, really good choices for this list. But they're not widely available through like supported retail networks. You can get them a lot through Amazon, right? Or some company, some retailers are starting to carry Jen Howe more. And if we start to see that more, then I'll start to consider listing them more because they are really good quality for the money. But until they have more of a representation in broader <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">stationary </del>retail, I'm not including them in the list. But those could go in like I have honorable mention sections or like note sections for each of these lists. That's where I would put something like the Jen Howe's and Moonman's and some of those other like good quality pens that aren't very expensive.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* The other bit of context is when I'm making a recommendation, I'm generally recommending products that are easy to require and are bought through retail with support systems in place for any issues that might arise. And the reason I'm categorizing it like that is because brands like Jen Howe and Moonman and some of the other similar types of pens are really, really good choices for this list. But they're not widely available through like supported retail networks. You can get them a lot through Amazon, right? Or some company, some retailers are starting to carry Jen Howe more. And if we start to see that more, then I'll start to consider listing them more because they are really good quality for the money. But until they have more of a representation in broader <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">stationery </ins>retail, I'm not including them in the list. But those could go in like I have honorable mention sections or like note sections for each of these lists. That's where I would put something like the Jen Howe's and Moonman's and some of those other like good quality pens that aren't very expensive.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* But that's why you may not see these listed directly in the top five. Yeah, I feel like it's not really beginner friendly if you can't buy it. Yeah, yeah. Like I'm not. Yeah. And I want you to have support too. Like I do think about the support system for beginners and people getting started in there. So that they're able to reach out to someone when they have an issue. Well, and also if you have a pen that lots and lots of people own, there's going to be a lot of content created about it, right? So if you're struggling to understand how to fill the pen, you could search for it on YouTube and someone's made a video. Where pens that are a little bit more obscure or newer, there might be less of that content available. Like to kind of like talk about the support section of it. Yep, yep. So I think we'll start to see even more and more integration of those brands into some of these lists because they are starting to gain in popularity and usage. So at least I'm starting to see it. And that's all in this like beginner list and in the next list. So those are good places to play in. Then we get into the first price bracket. And that's $100 to $200. And this whole bracket probably just needs to be shifted from like $150 to $250.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* But that's why you may not see these listed directly in the top five. Yeah, I feel like it's not really beginner friendly if you can't buy it. Yeah, yeah. Like I'm not. Yeah. And I want you to have support too. Like I do think about the support system for beginners and people getting started in there. So that they're able to reach out to someone when they have an issue. Well, and also if you have a pen that lots and lots of people own, there's going to be a lot of content created about it, right? So if you're struggling to understand how to fill the pen, you could search for it on YouTube and someone's made a video. Where pens that are a little bit more obscure or newer, there might be less of that content available. Like to kind of like talk about the support section of it. Yep, yep. So I think we'll start to see even more and more integration of those brands into some of these lists because they are starting to gain in popularity and usage. So at least I'm starting to see it. And that's all in this like beginner list and in the next list. So those are good places to play in. Then we get into the first price bracket. And that's $100 to $200. And this whole bracket probably just needs to be shifted from like $150 to $250.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Because there's not a lot between $100 and $150. And there's a ton between $200 and $250. So I might rework this entire section. Because I don't know. Like I can't name a $100 to $150 pen off the top of my head that I would recommend. And I'm talking about standard retail pricing. You know, like sure, you could maybe find a... Like I have the Pilot Custom 74 on here. It's like $168 or something like that. Could you find it like under $150 somewhere somehow on a sale day or just whatever? Sure. But as a general rule, you know, that's my number one in this category is the Pilot Custom 74. Then I have the Platinum 3776, which is about to price itself out of the $200 range. The Lamy 2000, which has priced itself out of the $200 range. The Leonardo Memento Zero, which is still there in the upper 100 range, along with the Diplomat Arrow. I think looking at the names on this list and already having to eliminate the 2000 and pretty close to eliminating the 3776, I already think I'm going to change this to 150 to 250 because then you can put in the Pilot 912, you know, maybe one of the Sailor models, at least in that range. And then the 3776 can stay. And that's just kind of how the market's gone. Like I knew that back when I made this update that we were already losing a lot of pens out of the $100 to $200 range just from market forces, right? The prices of these pens were just going up. The 3776 and the 2000 primary amongst those. So I'm pretty sure I'm going to move this list 150 to 250 or like 150 to 300, something like that. Because really, I'm not even today. I didn't even put it in the show notes. Like there's another like higher end, like 200 to 500 list I have. Like that's like wide open. Like that could be a billion different things. And it stops mattering at that point. At that point, you don't need a recommendation. You know what you want, right? If you've gone through this list from beginner to next to this, you know, $200 range, you've learned a lot about your tastes and desires. And there's less information you need to make your own decisions, even though information is good, right? You're starting to like really figure out, oh, do I want, you know, a bigger nib or a different filling system or some special finish or fit or, you know, a custom pen or a maker pen, those types of things. You really just kind of start to spread things out here like greatly once you get past like the $300 range. So we'll see. I'm definitely going to change the bracket for this. So I don't have all the answers. But yeah, this list is going to change the most in looking at these three fountain pen lists. So we'll see. It's always difficult to think about this because I always feel like I'm forgetting something. But it's like, yeah, maybe I'm not. These are pretty good choices that have like stood the test of time. And it's like I want to have as much change as possible just for the hashtag content. But like that's if it's not correct, then why change? Like if these are the right answers that I feel are the best recommendations. You know, we'll see. We'll see. So there we go. That's the fountain pen section. So we'll hit some more here in a second. This episode is brought to you by ExpressVPN. When you go out to eat, you want to have options of food. You don't just want to go to the same restaurant all the time. Maybe you want Italian. Maybe you want Thai. Maybe you're looking for some sushi. You want some Japanese. But imagine if you could only get food from one place. That's what it's like to use services like Netflix about ExpressVPN. You only get to watch content available in just one country. When you use ExpressVPN, you can change your location, which can change where streaming services think that you're located. They have almost 100 different server locations around the world. So you can discover thousands of new shows to watch on Netflix, Disney+, BBC iPlayer, YouTube, and more. But there are tons of reasons to choose ExpressVPN. It's incredibly easy to use. You open the app, change your location. With the click of a button, it's all done. And you're also connected. And your connection is nice and secure. It's compatible with all your devices. Phones, laptops, smart TVs, and more. And a nice bonus is the blazing fast speeds mean that you can stream in HD with no buffering. Plus, ExpressVPN has the added benefit of encrypting your data so you can browse the web securely. So that means, for example, if I wanted to watch Pulp Fiction tonight, I could just connect with ExpressVPN, change my location to Brazil, and good to go. Or maybe you think to yourself, oh, I'd like to watch Friends. Well, it's on UK Netflix, so you could change your location to the UK and watch Friends. You just open the app, select your location, tap a button to connect, and refresh the page to get access. One of my favorite things about ExpressVPN is I can do it in the inverse. When I'm traveling, I can connect back to the streaming services that I have at home by changing my location in ExpressVPN. It works super fast. HD streams, no problem, no buffering, on hotel Wi-Fi even. Fantastic stuff. So make a smart choice and stop paying full price for services and only getting access to a fraction of the content. Get your money's worth at expressvpn.com slash penaddict. That is e-x-p-r-e-s-s-v-p-n.com slash penaddict to get an extra four months of ExpressVPN for free. Our thanks to ExpressVPN for the support of this show and all of Relay. Yeah, I was laughing this morning because we're in the F1 offseason and I saw ExpressVPN was in here. And I remembered when I was in London, I just hopped over back. I did it backwards, like you said, went back to my US F1 subscription so I could actually watch the race replays because I was not able to watch it. Otherwise, boom, seamless. And it was just great. I just got the biggest kick. So, yeah, love it. Love it. All right. Inks, Myke. Could there be change here? I don't know. This was one I wanted to get some of the wisdom of the crowds to at least get me thinking about what people are inking these days. And I was on Twitch yesterday streaming and I told everyone to give me their three favorite ink brands. Just, you know, what are the favorite ink brands you're using these days? If you want to chime in with your three favorite, Myke, please go ahead. Pilot, Sailor, Robots, though. Yeah. So, this is a highly unscientific listing. Diamine, one. Sailor, two. Pilot, Orozuzuku, three.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Because there's not a lot between $100 and $150. And there's a ton between $200 and $250. So I might rework this entire section. Because I don't know. Like I can't name a $100 to $150 pen off the top of my head that I would recommend. And I'm talking about standard retail pricing. You know, like sure, you could maybe find a... Like I have the Pilot Custom 74 on here. It's like $168 or something like that. Could you find it like under $150 somewhere somehow on a sale day or just whatever? Sure. But as a general rule, you know, that's my number one in this category is the Pilot Custom 74. Then I have the Platinum 3776, which is about to price itself out of the $200 range. The Lamy 2000, which has priced itself out of the $200 range. The Leonardo Memento Zero, which is still there in the upper 100 range, along with the Diplomat Arrow. I think looking at the names on this list and already having to eliminate the 2000 and pretty close to eliminating the 3776, I already think I'm going to change this to 150 to 250 because then you can put in the Pilot 912, you know, maybe one of the Sailor models, at least in that range. And then the 3776 can stay. And that's just kind of how the market's gone. Like I knew that back when I made this update that we were already losing a lot of pens out of the $100 to $200 range just from market forces, right? The prices of these pens were just going up. The 3776 and the 2000 primary amongst those. So I'm pretty sure I'm going to move this list 150 to 250 or like 150 to 300, something like that. Because really, I'm not even today. I didn't even put it in the show notes. Like there's another like higher end, like 200 to 500 list I have. Like that's like wide open. Like that could be a billion different things. And it stops mattering at that point. At that point, you don't need a recommendation. You know what you want, right? If you've gone through this list from beginner to next to this, you know, $200 range, you've learned a lot about your tastes and desires. And there's less information you need to make your own decisions, even though information is good, right? You're starting to like really figure out, oh, do I want, you know, a bigger nib or a different filling system or some special finish or fit or, you know, a custom pen or a maker pen, those types of things. You really just kind of start to spread things out here like greatly once you get past like the $300 range. So we'll see. I'm definitely going to change the bracket for this. So I don't have all the answers. But yeah, this list is going to change the most in looking at these three fountain pen lists. So we'll see. It's always difficult to think about this because I always feel like I'm forgetting something. But it's like, yeah, maybe I'm not. These are pretty good choices that have like stood the test of time. And it's like I want to have as much change as possible just for the hashtag content. But like that's if it's not correct, then why change? Like if these are the right answers that I feel are the best recommendations. You know, we'll see. We'll see. So there we go. That's the fountain pen section. So we'll hit some more here in a second. This episode is brought to you by ExpressVPN. When you go out to eat, you want to have options of food. You don't just want to go to the same restaurant all the time. Maybe you want Italian. Maybe you want Thai. Maybe you're looking for some sushi. You want some Japanese. But imagine if you could only get food from one place. That's what it's like to use services like Netflix about ExpressVPN. You only get to watch content available in just one country. When you use ExpressVPN, you can change your location, which can change where streaming services think that you're located. They have almost 100 different server locations around the world. So you can discover thousands of new shows to watch on Netflix, Disney+, BBC iPlayer, YouTube, and more. But there are tons of reasons to choose ExpressVPN. It's incredibly easy to use. You open the app, change your location. With the click of a button, it's all done. And you're also connected. And your connection is nice and secure. It's compatible with all your devices. Phones, laptops, smart TVs, and more. And a nice bonus is the blazing fast speeds mean that you can stream in HD with no buffering. Plus, ExpressVPN has the added benefit of encrypting your data so you can browse the web securely. So that means, for example, if I wanted to watch Pulp Fiction tonight, I could just connect with ExpressVPN, change my location to Brazil, and good to go. Or maybe you think to yourself, oh, I'd like to watch Friends. Well, it's on UK Netflix, so you could change your location to the UK and watch Friends. You just open the app, select your location, tap a button to connect, and refresh the page to get access. One of my favorite things about ExpressVPN is I can do it in the inverse. When I'm traveling, I can connect back to the streaming services that I have at home by changing my location in ExpressVPN. It works super fast. HD streams, no problem, no buffering, on hotel Wi-Fi even. Fantastic stuff. So make a smart choice and stop paying full price for services and only getting access to a fraction of the content. Get your money's worth at expressvpn.com slash penaddict. That is e-x-p-r-e-s-s-v-p-n.com slash penaddict to get an extra four months of ExpressVPN for free. Our thanks to ExpressVPN for the support of this show and all of Relay. Yeah, I was laughing this morning because we're in the F1 offseason and I saw ExpressVPN was in here. And I remembered when I was in London, I just hopped over back. I did it backwards, like you said, went back to my US F1 subscription so I could actually watch the race replays because I was not able to watch it. Otherwise, boom, seamless. And it was just great. I just got the biggest kick. So, yeah, love it. Love it. All right. Inks, Myke. Could there be change here? I don't know. This was one I wanted to get some of the wisdom of the crowds to at least get me thinking about what people are inking these days. And I was on Twitch yesterday streaming and I told everyone to give me their three favorite ink brands. Just, you know, what are the favorite ink brands you're using these days? If you want to chime in with your three favorite, Myke, please go ahead. Pilot, Sailor, Robots, though. Yeah. So, this is a highly unscientific listing. Diamine, one. Sailor, two. Pilot, Orozuzuku, three.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* From Relay, this is The Pen Addict, episode 647. Today's show is brought to you by Enigma Stationery, ExpressVPN, and Squarespace. My name is Myke Hurley. I'm joined by Brad Dowdy. Hi, Brad. Hello, Myke Hurley. How are you doing today? You can hear me a little under the weather. You know, we don't need to make a big deal out of it. But, yeah, a little bit, a little bit. I can hear you. I can hear you a little bit there. So, hey, I appreciate you being here today. Have we ever had to call out sick at the last minute on one of these shows? Which is over 12 or 13 years. You have? I have. I once had a viral throat infection, and I was out, like out, out. So maybe I got like a, I must have got a last minute replacement, though, because I don't think we've missed. Yeah. Yeah, no, we wouldn't do that. We would just, we would move it around. Oh, we would. I mean, we would if we're like, you know, not feeling that well. I mean, it is incredibly unlikely to me that we would not record at all for a week in the sense that it has never happened. Sure, yeah. We would fill it in. Somehow it would get done. Somehow. Because that's the job. Just got to get it done. Anyway, I shouldn't be asking you the questions today, seeing that you're feeling under the weather, but I am going to make you talk a little bit. Something for our listeners to look forward to is the ad reads today, because yesterday. If you want to send me over the copy, we can make a switch. We'll see. We'll see. Because I've been, you know, I've been doing this for a few days. Sometimes it's been fine. But yesterday I was recording with Casey and I was doing it after Squarespace and I got a little lightheaded by the end of it. Because my ability to take in oxygen is diminished. Yes. And so that was an interesting time. So we'll see how that goes today later on in the episode. I thought it was just because the deals were so good. Like this is a bad read, but you know. Always. Sorry. Sorry. All right. So last week we talked about our themes and just talked about stationery in general in the broader picture. And I realized we didn't like really specify, you know, maybe some of the things that we're using to kick off the new year. That's when I kind of like, you know, make sure I clean up some pens that I've been using for the last month and get some new pens into the rotation.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* From Relay, this is The Pen Addict, episode 647. Today's show is brought to you by Enigma Stationery, ExpressVPN, and Squarespace. My name is Myke Hurley. I'm joined by Brad Dowdy. Hi, Brad. Hello, Myke Hurley. How are you doing today? You can hear me a little under the weather. You know, we don't need to make a big deal out of it. But, yeah, a little bit, a little bit. I can hear you. I can hear you a little bit there. So, hey, I appreciate you being here today. Have we ever had to call out sick at the last minute on one of these shows? Which is over 12 or 13 years. You have? I have. I once had a viral throat infection, and I was out, like out, out. So maybe I got like a, I must have got a last minute replacement, though, because I don't think we've missed. Yeah. Yeah, no, we wouldn't do that. We would just, we would move it around. Oh, we would. I mean, we would if we're like, you know, not feeling that well. I mean, it is incredibly unlikely to me that we would not record at all for a week in the sense that it has never happened. Sure, yeah. We would fill it in. Somehow it would get done. Somehow. Because that's the job. Just got to get it done. Anyway, I shouldn't be asking you the questions today, seeing that you're feeling under the weather, but I am going to make you talk a little bit. Something for our listeners to look forward to is the ad reads today, because yesterday. If you want to send me over the copy, we can make a switch. We'll see. We'll see. Because I've been, you know, I've been doing this for a few days. Sometimes it's been fine. But yesterday I was recording with Casey and I was doing it after Squarespace and I got a little lightheaded by the end of it. Because my ability to take in oxygen is diminished. Yes. And so that was an interesting time. So we'll see how that goes today later on in the episode. I thought it was just because the deals were so good. Like this is a bad read, but you know. Always. Sorry. Sorry. All right. So last week we talked about our themes and just talked about stationery in general in the broader picture. And I realized we didn't like really specify, you know, maybe some of the things that we're using to kick off the new year. That's when I kind of like, you know, make sure I clean up some pens that I've been using for the last month and get some new pens into the rotation.</div></td></tr>
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