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	'''Brad Dowdy:''' I am, uh, I'm heading to the Chicago ~~Penn~~ Show at the end of this week. Jelly. Jelly.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' I am, uh, I'm heading to the Chicago Pen Show at the end of this week. Jelly. Jelly.

	'''Myke Hurley:''' I want to go. I love Chicago.		'''Myke Hurley:''' I want to go. I love Chicago.

	'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah, it's good. So, I'll be going in Friday afternoon. I'll get to the ~~Penn~~ Show, then leaving Sunday morning. My usual, my new routine's working well. So, I haven't been there in five or six years, I'm thinking. I have to go back and look and figure out exactly. Obviously, pre-pandemic. But I think it was even a couple years. Like, you know, more like 2018-ish. 2017, 2018. Something like that. So, I'm anxious to get back and see what the show's all about. See all my friends in the area. Yeah. Um, you know, check out all the fun stuff going on at the show. So, um, I see Edison has already come up with their show special like they did in Baltimore. That they, they got their hooks in me at Baltimore. And this one's just going to be a problem for me again. Like, I don't need another Edison pen after just buying one. But they're doing a Brockton shape, which is one of their smaller pens, which you know I like. Last one I bought was the Beaumont. They're doing this in a Jonathan Brooks material called Dragon Knight. You can imagine how cool this looks. It's very different dark shades, um, of blues. And lighter and darker blues. It has a translucent mint ink window designed specifically to show only the clear section of the converter. So, it looks like it's a built-in part of the pen. Like, this is, there's only going to be 15 at the show. Just like the last, um, you know, the Palomino Waltz at Sunset that I bought at Baltimore. So, I have no idea if I'm going to get this pen. I'm going to try not to. My goal is to not buy this pen, Myke. Will Brad pass or fail? Um, place your bets now. So, it's great looking. Um, I'm also going to spend some time with Plotter. Um, hanging out there, checking out all their stuff. Hopefully, I'm going to get my initials painted on my Plotter by their staff there. Which is something I wanted since San Francisco. Um, so, one of the, like, the creative director, Plotter, had some, some really nice, like, initials painted on their cover. And I've been talking to them about that. It's like, oh, how do, how do they do that? What materials do you use? You know, like, what specific paints? And in Chicago, they're actually going to have someone there physically doing that. Um, as, you know, like, an add-on. Like, you can pay to get that added to your new cover or your existing cover. So, I'm going to bring my Nero, Plotter Nero that I bought in San Francisco. See if I can get, uh, queued up for that. That's my plan for that. And I was also thinking with my Plotter. I don't really have it, like, you know, I saw the, um, the Edison pen, right? Like, I'm not really necessarily shopping for any pens. But I was thinking about my Plotter. And I just happened to run across someone's, I can't remember if it was an Instagram post or on Mastodon, um, about the Lamy CP1. And I've always loved the Lamy CP1. And I don't own one. And I'm wondering if that would be, like, a perfect permanent Plotter pen. Um, I did not mean that to be completely illiterative like that. But it's a, like, the, my Nero, my Plotter Nero has a pretty thin, uh, pen loop on there. And the CP1's a thinner pen. And if I could have a permanent kind of pen for that spot. Like, I'm always trying to, I keep a spoke pen in there a lot. I keep a spoke roadie in there a lot. You know, they're thinner traditional pens. But the fountain pens are usually too wide for that. And I'm thinking maybe I'll get a Lamy CP1 and get, like, a needlepoint nib grind. And that will be my official Plotter pen. Um, I don't know. I'm thinking about that for my pen purchase at the Chicago Pen Show. So, um, side note related to Lamy. And this is probably, like, a whole different topic. But we've talked about this enough recently. They put up a new, um, Instagram post on the Lamy Global page. Create your own Lamy Safari. What are they trying to tell us, Myke? They want you to buy lots of Lamy Safari. That's what they're trying to tell. Hey, if you buy three, you can mix and match. Or, or they should just make an orange Lamy 2000. All right. We're not going to get into that too much. But I was like, what are you? Okay, Lamy. Like, you're, you're, you're lining us up for something here. So, um, back to Chicago. Uh, Kimberly and Sarah, both who write for the Pen Addict, are going to be there. So, we're going to try to record something in person there. Maybe a friend of the show episode, uh, for Pen Addict members. Maybe just some fun silliness I publish. Who knows what we're going to do. But I'm going to bring my microphone. Um, we'll see. So, and we're just going to hang out. Have fun. Like, I'm just going to these shows to chill out and have fun, really. Talk to people. See things. Have a good time. Relax. Um, these have been pretty relaxing for me. Um, we'll try not to buy too many pens this time. I've, I've bought a lot. At the Baltimore and Atlanta Pen Shows earlier this year, we need to slow that roll a little bit. Um, where we're not managing our, uh, our acquisitions properly right now. So, we'll see if I can continue down that stretch as I link to all the things that I want to buy at the show. So, we'll see.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah, it's good. So, I'll be going in Friday afternoon. I'll get to the Pen Show, then leaving Sunday morning. My usual, my new routine's working well. So, I haven't been there in five or six years, I'm thinking. I have to go back and look and figure out exactly. Obviously, pre-pandemic. But I think it was even a couple years. Like, you know, more like 2018-ish. 2017, 2018. Something like that. So, I'm anxious to get back and see what the show's all about. See all my friends in the area. Yeah. Um, you know, check out all the fun stuff going on at the show. So, um, I see Edison has already come up with their show special like they did in Baltimore. That they, they got their hooks in me at Baltimore. And this one's just going to be a problem for me again. Like, I don't need another Edison pen after just buying one. But they're doing a Brockton shape, which is one of their smaller pens, which you know I like. Last one I bought was the Beaumont. They're doing this in a Jonathan Brooks material called Dragon Knight. You can imagine how cool this looks. It's very different dark shades, um, of blues. And lighter and darker blues. It has a translucent mint ink window designed specifically to show only the clear section of the converter. So, it looks like it's a built-in part of the pen. Like, this is, there's only going to be 15 at the show. Just like the last, um, you know, the Palomino Waltz at Sunset that I bought at Baltimore. So, I have no idea if I'm going to get this pen. I'm going to try not to. My goal is to not buy this pen, Myke. Will Brad pass or fail? Um, place your bets now. So, it's great looking. Um, I'm also going to spend some time with Plotter. Um, hanging out there, checking out all their stuff. Hopefully, I'm going to get my initials painted on my Plotter by their staff there. Which is something I wanted since San Francisco. Um, so, one of the, like, the creative director, Plotter, had some, some really nice, like, initials painted on their cover. And I've been talking to them about that. It's like, oh, how do, how do they do that? What materials do you use? You know, like, what specific paints? And in Chicago, they're actually going to have someone there physically doing that. Um, as, you know, like, an add-on. Like, you can pay to get that added to your new cover or your existing cover. So, I'm going to bring my Nero, Plotter Nero that I bought in San Francisco. See if I can get, uh, queued up for that. That's my plan for that. And I was also thinking with my Plotter. I don't really have it, like, you know, I saw the, um, the Edison pen, right? Like, I'm not really necessarily shopping for any pens. But I was thinking about my Plotter. And I just happened to run across someone's, I can't remember if it was an Instagram post or on Mastodon, um, about the Lamy CP1. And I've always loved the Lamy CP1. And I don't own one. And I'm wondering if that would be, like, a perfect permanent Plotter pen. Um, I did not mean that to be completely illiterative like that. But it's a, like, the, my Nero, my Plotter Nero has a pretty thin, uh, pen loop on there. And the CP1's a thinner pen. And if I could have a permanent kind of pen for that spot. Like, I'm always trying to, I keep a spoke pen in there a lot. I keep a spoke roadie in there a lot. You know, they're thinner traditional pens. But the fountain pens are usually too wide for that. And I'm thinking maybe I'll get a Lamy CP1 and get, like, a needlepoint nib grind. And that will be my official Plotter pen. Um, I don't know. I'm thinking about that for my pen purchase at the Chicago Pen Show. So, um, side note related to Lamy. And this is probably, like, a whole different topic. But we've talked about this enough recently. They put up a new, um, Instagram post on the Lamy Global page. Create your own Lamy Safari. What are they trying to tell us, Myke? They want you to buy lots of Lamy Safari. That's what they're trying to tell. Hey, if you buy three, you can mix and match. Or, or they should just make an orange Lamy 2000. All right. We're not going to get into that too much. But I was like, what are you? Okay, Lamy. Like, you're, you're, you're lining us up for something here. So, um, back to Chicago. Uh, Kimberly and Sarah, both who write for the Pen Addict, are going to be there. So, we're going to try to record something in person there. Maybe a friend of the show episode, uh, for Pen Addict members. Maybe just some fun silliness I publish. Who knows what we're going to do. But I'm going to bring my microphone. Um, we'll see. So, and we're just going to hang out. Have fun. Like, I'm just going to these shows to chill out and have fun, really. Talk to people. See things. Have a good time. Relax. Um, these have been pretty relaxing for me. Um, we'll try not to buy too many pens this time. I've, I've bought a lot. At the Baltimore and Atlanta Pen Shows earlier this year, we need to slow that roll a little bit. Um, where we're not managing our, uh, our acquisitions properly right now. So, we'll see if I can continue down that stretch as I link to all the things that I want to buy at the show. So, we'll see.

	'''Myke Hurley:''' Well, I'm very jealous of you.		'''Myke Hurley:''' Well, I'm very jealous of you.

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	'''Brad Dowdy:''' So I wrote this down, LamyXNeolab, but I always have to verify this stuff. Like, that's what the box said, so that's what I wrote down. So I'm glad it passed your test. It did not pass Brad's writing test, but not because – not due to the digital pen aspect of it. So let me cover that first. The digital pen, which I think a lot of people – I won't get too into it. I think most of y'all know that a lot of companies will make a digital pen, and it comes with a notebook that will partner with the pen, pair with the pen. And there's, like, a little camera on the front end of the pen. And you download an app, and your notes get digitized, right, as you write. So the technical aspects of this worked flawlessly. It was actually really impressive. It was, like, as impressive as we were back in the day with that Moleskine. It's like, oh, my gosh, this, like, literally works. So, like, I had my phone sitting right next to the notebook as I was writing, and it was, like, instant. Just as I was writing, it was filling out the notebook in the app. I was like, ah, that's pretty cool. And then it had real quick ways for me to, like, switch colors or switch line widths. I'd just tap on this little card that they provided. I'd tap it on orange, and then I could write orange. And then I'd tap the extra line width, and I could highlight a little bit – not highlight over a line, but make, like, a marker line. It was legitimately a good process. Like, it really, really worked exactly how I thought it should work, right? But then the ~~stationary~~ nerd kind of went off the deep end trying to make an even better writing pen. So, the way this pen is designed, it's a Lamy Safari, which is great, and it has a D1 refill in the tip of the pen. So, that's what you're actually writing within your notebook, which is also fine. Well, with that type of setup and with the D1 refills and the whole camera hardware within the pen, that opening, there was a little tip rattle when you write, you know, like the little tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, you know, when you're writing, right? So –		'''Brad Dowdy:''' So I wrote this down, LamyXNeolab, but I always have to verify this stuff. Like, that's what the box said, so that's what I wrote down. So I'm glad it passed your test. It did not pass Brad's writing test, but not because – not due to the digital pen aspect of it. So let me cover that first. The digital pen, which I think a lot of people – I won't get too into it. I think most of y'all know that a lot of companies will make a digital pen, and it comes with a notebook that will partner with the pen, pair with the pen. And there's, like, a little camera on the front end of the pen. And you download an app, and your notes get digitized, right, as you write. So the technical aspects of this worked flawlessly. It was actually really impressive. It was, like, as impressive as we were back in the day with that Moleskine. It's like, oh, my gosh, this, like, literally works. So, like, I had my phone sitting right next to the notebook as I was writing, and it was, like, instant. Just as I was writing, it was filling out the notebook in the app. I was like, ah, that's pretty cool. And then it had real quick ways for me to, like, switch colors or switch line widths. I'd just tap on this little card that they provided. I'd tap it on orange, and then I could write orange. And then I'd tap the extra line width, and I could highlight a little bit – not highlight over a line, but make, like, a marker line. It was legitimately a good process. Like, it really, really worked exactly how I thought it should work, right? But then the stationery nerd kind of went off the deep end trying to make an even better writing pen. So, the way this pen is designed, it's a Lamy Safari, which is great, and it has a D1 refill in the tip of the pen. So, that's what you're actually writing within your notebook, which is also fine. Well, with that type of setup and with the D1 refills and the whole camera hardware within the pen, that opening, there was a little tip rattle when you write, you know, like the little tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, you know, when you're writing, right? So –

	'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah, we're going to talk about that a little later on today. Yeah, that comes up. That's a topic today. This has been tip rattle week.		'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah, we're going to talk about that a little later on today. Yeah, that comes up. That's a topic today. This has been tip rattle week.
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	'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah, I went with Sailor Ink Studio 140. I thought this felt like a blue one for me. When I received the pen, I was like, oh, I don't know. Like, I've never had a pen that has this concave. So if you need this to describe, it's like if you imagine purely straight barrel, pinch it in the middle, right? So the ends are the thickest. And then it kind of like towards the middle gets thinner and then out again. And it's like I've never used a pen like that. And I don't think I would necessarily have like been gravitated towards that style. But it is so comfortable to hold. Like, it fits so perfectly in the hand. And because you have the concave design, like, you know, so it's like thicker on both ends, the pen retains weight. Where like if you had it just be like conical, right? That it just gets thinner towards the end. So you still achieve the thinner part in the middle where it meets kind of the, where it meets your hand. What is the area called between your thumb and your finger? I call it the cusp. I call it the cusp. I don't know if that's the accurate term. The cusp of the hand. And if it just got, you know, they made it so it went thinner there, it'd be fine. But you would lose weight in the pen. And, you know, I like there to be weight in pens. I don't like it to feel like when I pick up a pen, it's just going to fly over my shoulder. Right? Like, this doesn't feel that way even though it's made of resin. And I think it's because it's retaining some material at the end and it gives a really nice balance. So for me, like, this is a very comfortable pen. And obviously, the design is great, but the real winner is the nib and just how close that nib is in color to the material. So super awesome. Go check it out for yourself right now. It's $240, which is a steal. I mean, I genuinely cannot believe this pen is this price. Me and Brad were talking about this before we started today. It's an incredibly fair price for a quality product like this. There are just 50 pieces. So you've got to act fast if you want to go check it out. Go to ~~enigmastationary~~.com slash penaddict. That is ~~enigmastationary~~.com slash penaddict. And use the code penaddict at checkout to receive a free gift and discounted shipping on an order of $40 or more. That is ~~enigmastationary~~.com slash penaddict to secure your Enigma Special Edition number 3. And use the code penaddict at checkout to receive free shipping on all orders over $40 plus a free gift. Thanks to Enigma Stationary for the support of this show and all of RelayFM.		'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah, I went with Sailor Ink Studio 140. I thought this felt like a blue one for me. When I received the pen, I was like, oh, I don't know. Like, I've never had a pen that has this concave. So if you need this to describe, it's like if you imagine purely straight barrel, pinch it in the middle, right? So the ends are the thickest. And then it kind of like towards the middle gets thinner and then out again. And it's like I've never used a pen like that. And I don't think I would necessarily have like been gravitated towards that style. But it is so comfortable to hold. Like, it fits so perfectly in the hand. And because you have the concave design, like, you know, so it's like thicker on both ends, the pen retains weight. Where like if you had it just be like conical, right? That it just gets thinner towards the end. So you still achieve the thinner part in the middle where it meets kind of the, where it meets your hand. What is the area called between your thumb and your finger? I call it the cusp. I call it the cusp. I don't know if that's the accurate term. The cusp of the hand. And if it just got, you know, they made it so it went thinner there, it'd be fine. But you would lose weight in the pen. And, you know, I like there to be weight in pens. I don't like it to feel like when I pick up a pen, it's just going to fly over my shoulder. Right? Like, this doesn't feel that way even though it's made of resin. And I think it's because it's retaining some material at the end and it gives a really nice balance. So for me, like, this is a very comfortable pen. And obviously, the design is great, but the real winner is the nib and just how close that nib is in color to the material. So super awesome. Go check it out for yourself right now. It's $240, which is a steal. I mean, I genuinely cannot believe this pen is this price. Me and Brad were talking about this before we started today. It's an incredibly fair price for a quality product like this. There are just 50 pieces. So you've got to act fast if you want to go check it out. Go to enigmastationery.com slash penaddict. That is enigmastationery.com slash penaddict. And use the code penaddict at checkout to receive a free gift and discounted shipping on an order of $40 or more. That is enigmastationery.com slash penaddict to secure your Enigma Special Edition number 3. And use the code penaddict at checkout to receive free shipping on all orders over $40 plus a free gift. Thanks to Enigma Stationary for the support of this show and all of RelayFM.

	'''Brad Dowdy:''' All right, Myke. So we're going to bring some of the topics we talked about or some of the specific parts of the specific topics above that we talked about in barrel weight, feel in the hand, balance, tip rattle. All kind of come to play in my conversation around the Maker's Cabinet Laszlo. So I did a review of this brass ballpoint pen from Maker's Cabinet on Monday. And I wanted to bring it up because it's a good conversation to have about pen design and like how we all like different things. And, you know, how what might be good for one person may not be great for another person. And like all of those things are like cool. Like it's good to know like what features a pen brings to the table. And that way you can decide. And one of the things I try to help with in my review is help you decide like does this type of pen fit my needs for a writing instrument. So you're familiar with Maker's Cabinet, Myke, right? They make some of like the fancy extremes, not the right word, but they upgrade a lot of traditional objects in their own style. A lot of brass, a lot of machine parts, a lot of custom build. I did a review of their lead holder called the Ferrell a few months back where it was just like almost like an over-engineered pencil holder. And this one, the Laszlo, it's a brass ballpoint. And it's actually kind of simple, right? It's a for for Maker's Cabinet. I would call it a simple design. Their upgraded piece of this was the twist mechanism to retract and engage the refill. So they use this magnet, this custom magnet design that they built and designed. And I didn't find it to be great. Like it's fine. Like it certainly wasn't transformative. It didn't change what I thought about. Oh, this is how all knocks should be in the future. Right. Or all twist mechanisms, I should say. It was fine. It was a little bit funky. It didn't work the same every time I tried to engage it. It always worked at some point, but it didn't work consistently the same every time. Like sometimes I would twist it, you know, do it, give it a half turn. The refill would pop right out and I'd go to town. Other times I would twist it and it would snap back in. I twisted the same, same. And I'd have to like keep going all the way around to get the refill to engage. So it was a little bit inconsistent in that aspect. That's fine. I can deal with that. You know, it is what it is. I appreciate someone trying something new, right? Like that's why like I did not have a great time with this pen, but I didn't go out to eviscerate this pen because I want people to keep designing and keep making things.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' All right, Myke. So we're going to bring some of the topics we talked about or some of the specific parts of the specific topics above that we talked about in barrel weight, feel in the hand, balance, tip rattle. All kind of come to play in my conversation around the Maker's Cabinet Laszlo. So I did a review of this brass ballpoint pen from Maker's Cabinet on Monday. And I wanted to bring it up because it's a good conversation to have about pen design and like how we all like different things. And, you know, how what might be good for one person may not be great for another person. And like all of those things are like cool. Like it's good to know like what features a pen brings to the table. And that way you can decide. And one of the things I try to help with in my review is help you decide like does this type of pen fit my needs for a writing instrument. So you're familiar with Maker's Cabinet, Myke, right? They make some of like the fancy extremes, not the right word, but they upgrade a lot of traditional objects in their own style. A lot of brass, a lot of machine parts, a lot of custom build. I did a review of their lead holder called the Ferrell a few months back where it was just like almost like an over-engineered pencil holder. And this one, the Laszlo, it's a brass ballpoint. And it's actually kind of simple, right? It's a for for Maker's Cabinet. I would call it a simple design. Their upgraded piece of this was the twist mechanism to retract and engage the refill. So they use this magnet, this custom magnet design that they built and designed. And I didn't find it to be great. Like it's fine. Like it certainly wasn't transformative. It didn't change what I thought about. Oh, this is how all knocks should be in the future. Right. Or all twist mechanisms, I should say. It was fine. It was a little bit funky. It didn't work the same every time I tried to engage it. It always worked at some point, but it didn't work consistently the same every time. Like sometimes I would twist it, you know, do it, give it a half turn. The refill would pop right out and I'd go to town. Other times I would twist it and it would snap back in. I twisted the same, same. And I'd have to like keep going all the way around to get the refill to engage. So it was a little bit inconsistent in that aspect. That's fine. I can deal with that. You know, it is what it is. I appreciate someone trying something new, right? Like that's why like I did not have a great time with this pen, but I didn't go out to eviscerate this pen because I want people to keep designing and keep making things.
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	'''Myke Hurley:''' We've definitely shown them out before. Like, long time ago.		'''Myke Hurley:''' We've definitely shown them out before. Like, long time ago.

	'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah, but not, not in the new version. Not in the new era. Mountain of Ink. My goodness. Kelly is the goat ink reviewer of all the ink reviewers of the ~~stationary~~ PinterNet. Um, the amount of work they put into their site into doing all these reviews. The consistency of which they present everything throughout their reviews. Um, the ability to, like, sort and figure out, like, what colors work well together. You can click, like, if you're looking for a green ink, you can click on the green tag. And you get all these visual samples of all these greens. It's fantastic. It's loaded with every ink. If I, if I'm ever looking, if someone ever tells me an ink color, I just go to Kelly's site and search it there to get good ink color representation. For what, uh, I might be interested in. It was, I don't know, a month or two ago, they passed 2,100 ink reviews. Myke. 2,100 individual ink reviews. That's a lot. That's crazy. So, congrats to Kelly. Congrats for being an awesome resource. Congrats for being an awesome friend. Uh, just for being an awesome person. And yeah, keep it going. I love Mountain of Ink. It's one of the great sites, uh, in our little realm. So, thank you, Kelly, for doing this. It's, I know it's a lot of work.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah, but not, not in the new version. Not in the new era. Mountain of Ink. My goodness. Kelly is the goat ink reviewer of all the ink reviewers of the stationery PinterNet. Um, the amount of work they put into their site into doing all these reviews. The consistency of which they present everything throughout their reviews. Um, the ability to, like, sort and figure out, like, what colors work well together. You can click, like, if you're looking for a green ink, you can click on the green tag. And you get all these visual samples of all these greens. It's fantastic. It's loaded with every ink. If I, if I'm ever looking, if someone ever tells me an ink color, I just go to Kelly's site and search it there to get good ink color representation. For what, uh, I might be interested in. It was, I don't know, a month or two ago, they passed 2,100 ink reviews. Myke. 2,100 individual ink reviews. That's a lot. That's crazy. So, congrats to Kelly. Congrats for being an awesome resource. Congrats for being an awesome friend. Uh, just for being an awesome person. And yeah, keep it going. I love Mountain of Ink. It's one of the great sites, uh, in our little realm. So, thank you, Kelly, for doing this. It's, I know it's a lot of work.

	'''Myke Hurley:''' Most definitely. All right, Myke.		'''Myke Hurley:''' Most definitely. All right, Myke.

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| title = Brad Breaks Stationery
| date = May 3rd, 2023
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[[Myke Hurley]]
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