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	'''Myke Hurley:''' Are we going to do that thing now where on every episode we talk about the pen shows you're going to, or is that going to be later on? I mean... Because we did that. Do you remember we did that for, like, it was like Orlando and one other? It was like every episode. It was like, don't forget.		'''Myke Hurley:''' Are we going to do that thing now where on every episode we talk about the pen shows you're going to, or is that going to be later on? I mean... Because we did that. Do you remember we did that for, like, it was like Orlando and one other? It was like every episode. It was like, don't forget.

	'''Brad Dowdy:''' So we pre-gamed San Francisco very hard. That was the one. Yeah. For like a month. I was like, do you know? And do you know what I'm planning on doing? And do you know who I'm going to see? And look, guess what? I'm ready to pack, and I'm going to talk about that. And hey, I went to the show. Do you want to talk about that? And oh, we didn't get to this thing at the show. So let's talk about that. So it was like six weeks worth of San Francisco and right into Orlando and two more weeks of that. So yeah. I see what you're saying. Probably. It's probably going to happen again. Starting with Baltimore. So at the beginning of March, I have booked my hotel and flights and show tickets for March 10th, 11th, and 12th, the Baltimore Washington International Pen Show. I have been to the Baltimore show before. That was my last pre-COVID show before not going to show for a couple of years, two and a half years or so. So it'll be good to get back. I enjoy that show. So that, Myke, you have not been to Baltimore. And what I will tell you, Baltimore is like, it's like a bigger and better Atlanta show, right? Okay. But not to the overwhelming level of like a DC or San Francisco. But if you took Atlanta and, you know, like if you personally, like if you said, what would you do a little bit different in Atlanta? And I talk about Atlanta this way because it's my home show for those who are just, you know, new listeners to the show. So, you know, you'd put Atlanta all in one big room. Like all the vendors get one big room. And, oh, the hotel has, you know, a little bit more access. You know, it's closer to the airport and restaurants and things like that. And it has a really good, you know, class vibe and a really good, a little better evening vibe, right? That's Baltimore. So it's like Atlanta plus. And I'm looking forward to get back to there. It's one of my favorite shows on the calendar. And I'm glad to be able to go to that. Speaking of Atlanta, that'll be the next show. Like two weeks after Baltimore, maybe three weeks. So March 30th to April 2nd is the Atlanta ~~Penn~~ show. I have booked my hotel room for that. That is a show I just have to drive to. So I'm always going to go to that. And I'll stay a couple nights at the hotel. I'm not going to drive like back and forth to home. It's a little too far for like a daily trip. But, you know, all of these shows, I'm going to arrive Friday and leave Sunday. So that's a new thing for me. We talked about me not working shows anymore, not having to work for a knock booth. Right now, I'm not working for any vendors. You know, maybe I'll mix that in later in the year. You know, I definitely have some opportunities for that. But right now, if I'm just going for me and going to hang out at the show, I'm going to try to arrive the Friday afternoon, you know, early-ish to these shows and then leave, you know, late Sunday morning, right, and get home, right? I feel good about that decision for me not to – what I would do in the past, like if I was working, I'd get in on Thursday night and then not leave until Monday morning, right? So that just really extends the show. It extends your expenses, you know, all the things. So – but it was mostly because I had a lot more prep work to do. And then I was usually, you know, working the show until it ended on Sunday. Then I was just tired, didn't want to have to take, you know, like a late-night flight Sunday, so I'd just go in the morning. So all my shows, at least right now, I'm planning on going Friday to Sunday. So mostly be there Friday night, Saturday night, then leave Sunday morning. So that's the plan.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' So we pre-gamed San Francisco very hard. That was the one. Yeah. For like a month. I was like, do you know? And do you know what I'm planning on doing? And do you know who I'm going to see? And look, guess what? I'm ready to pack, and I'm going to talk about that. And hey, I went to the show. Do you want to talk about that? And oh, we didn't get to this thing at the show. So let's talk about that. So it was like six weeks worth of San Francisco and right into Orlando and two more weeks of that. So yeah. I see what you're saying. Probably. It's probably going to happen again. Starting with Baltimore. So at the beginning of March, I have booked my hotel and flights and show tickets for March 10th, 11th, and 12th, the Baltimore Washington International Pen Show. I have been to the Baltimore show before. That was my last pre-COVID show before not going to show for a couple of years, two and a half years or so. So it'll be good to get back. I enjoy that show. So that, Myke, you have not been to Baltimore. And what I will tell you, Baltimore is like, it's like a bigger and better Atlanta show, right? Okay. But not to the overwhelming level of like a DC or San Francisco. But if you took Atlanta and, you know, like if you personally, like if you said, what would you do a little bit different in Atlanta? And I talk about Atlanta this way because it's my home show for those who are just, you know, new listeners to the show. So, you know, you'd put Atlanta all in one big room. Like all the vendors get one big room. And, oh, the hotel has, you know, a little bit more access. You know, it's closer to the airport and restaurants and things like that. And it has a really good, you know, class vibe and a really good, a little better evening vibe, right? That's Baltimore. So it's like Atlanta plus. And I'm looking forward to get back to there. It's one of my favorite shows on the calendar. And I'm glad to be able to go to that. Speaking of Atlanta, that'll be the next show. Like two weeks after Baltimore, maybe three weeks. So March 30th to April 2nd is the Atlanta Pen show. I have booked my hotel room for that. That is a show I just have to drive to. So I'm always going to go to that. And I'll stay a couple nights at the hotel. I'm not going to drive like back and forth to home. It's a little too far for like a daily trip. But, you know, all of these shows, I'm going to arrive Friday and leave Sunday. So that's a new thing for me. We talked about me not working shows anymore, not having to work for a knock booth. Right now, I'm not working for any vendors. You know, maybe I'll mix that in later in the year. You know, I definitely have some opportunities for that. But right now, if I'm just going for me and going to hang out at the show, I'm going to try to arrive the Friday afternoon, you know, early-ish to these shows and then leave, you know, late Sunday morning, right, and get home, right? I feel good about that decision for me not to – what I would do in the past, like if I was working, I'd get in on Thursday night and then not leave until Monday morning, right? So that just really extends the show. It extends your expenses, you know, all the things. So – but it was mostly because I had a lot more prep work to do. And then I was usually, you know, working the show until it ended on Sunday. Then I was just tired, didn't want to have to take, you know, like a late-night flight Sunday, so I'd just go in the morning. So all my shows, at least right now, I'm planning on going Friday to Sunday. So mostly be there Friday night, Saturday night, then leave Sunday morning. So that's the plan.

	'''Myke Hurley:''' Okay.		'''Myke Hurley:''' Okay.
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	'''Myke Hurley:''' The show is different now that Brad isn't exhibiting. So, if I come down, I don't have as much to do, right? Like, I can go and look around the show or whatever, but that's like a one-day thing, and I've kind of seen all I would need to see, by and large, right? Mm-hmm. And so, then the rest of the time, I would want to be there the whole time, and there's just, you know, we're not going to have as much to do. I'm not going to come in for just Friday and Saturday. It's like so much to, like, travel for that. And then, if I'm going to be... If the two of us are going to be at the Atlanta Pen Show together,		'''Myke Hurley:''' The show is different now that Brad isn't exhibiting. So, if I come down, I don't have as much to do, right? Like, I can go and look around the show or whatever, but that's like a one-day thing, and I've kind of seen all I would need to see, by and large, right? Mm-hmm. And so, then the rest of the time, I would want to be there the whole time, and there's just, you know, we're not going to have as much to do. I'm not going to come in for just Friday and Saturday. It's like so much to, like, travel for that. And then, if I'm going to be... If the two of us are going to be at the Atlanta Pen Show together,

	'''Myke Hurley:''' we would naturally be recording a live episode of the show. It's kind of the whole point now. Mm-hmm. The problem I see is the space that we have is a unventilated hotel ballroom. Now, I do figure at some point we will get back to doing that. My issue is for the first live show that RelayFM has put on since 2019, I'm not sure that's the right first step. So, like, we would maybe want a bigger space where it just doesn't feel so enclosed. And I'm not saying that, like, one has more chance of exposing people to coronavirus than the other. It's more for me of, like, how it would feel for that to be the first live show. Now, of course, I would love the ~~Penn~~ Addict to have the first live show because it was. Right? Right. Like, all of the first live shows you've ever done were the ~~Penn~~ Addict. But the problem is I just don't know if that particular setup at the Atlanta Pen Show works. Like, say, like, when we did San Francisco, way bigger room. Like, the thing with the Atlanta Pen Show, we finished those shows and we're just, like, sweating. It's, like, so hot in that room. Yeah. Right? Which just proves the lack of ventilation that's going on in there. Not a knock against anyone. We pack it out. Right? We go to, like, fire marshal limits every time. Right. I just don't think this is the right setup for the first live show. So, we're going to skip out on this one this year. Yeah.		'''Myke Hurley:''' we would naturally be recording a live episode of the show. It's kind of the whole point now. Mm-hmm. The problem I see is the space that we have is a unventilated hotel ballroom. Now, I do figure at some point we will get back to doing that. My issue is for the first live show that RelayFM has put on since 2019, I'm not sure that's the right first step. So, like, we would maybe want a bigger space where it just doesn't feel so enclosed. And I'm not saying that, like, one has more chance of exposing people to coronavirus than the other. It's more for me of, like, how it would feel for that to be the first live show. Now, of course, I would love the Pen Addict to have the first live show because it was. Right? Right. Like, all of the first live shows you've ever done were the Pen Addict. But the problem is I just don't know if that particular setup at the Atlanta Pen Show works. Like, say, like, when we did San Francisco, way bigger room. Like, the thing with the Atlanta Pen Show, we finished those shows and we're just, like, sweating. It's, like, so hot in that room. Yeah. Right? Which just proves the lack of ventilation that's going on in there. Not a knock against anyone. We pack it out. Right? We go to, like, fire marshal limits every time. Right. I just don't think this is the right setup for the first live show. So, we're going to skip out on this one this year. Yeah.

	'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. So, like, it's just not the right time or place. And Myke and I are in 100% agreement on this. You know, we hope to get back to the Atlanta Pen Show, doing live shows, doing other events, doing things like that.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. So, like, it's just not the right time or place. And Myke and I are in 100% agreement on this. You know, we hope to get back to the Atlanta Pen Show, doing live shows, doing other events, doing things like that.

	'''Brad Dowdy:''' So, what are we going to do, Myke? Are we going to do something where we can get together, go to a show, or have some other ideas? Hopefully. We think we have a really solid idea for 2023. It involves me traveling instead of Myke, specifically. But we're not ready to, like, announce anything yet. But we have a general idea of what we'd like to do for 2023. Because we want to do something. We enjoy getting together and doing ~~Penn~~ stuff. And, you know, having stuff for the podcast and sharing stuff with our followers and listeners.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' So, what are we going to do, Myke? Are we going to do something where we can get together, go to a show, or have some other ideas? Hopefully. We think we have a really solid idea for 2023. It involves me traveling instead of Myke, specifically. But we're not ready to, like, announce anything yet. But we have a general idea of what we'd like to do for 2023. Because we want to do something. We enjoy getting together and doing Pen stuff. And, you know, having stuff for the podcast and sharing stuff with our followers and listeners.

	'''Myke Hurley:''' That may be in the latter months of 2023 that I will be able to travel and we'll go to a Pen Show together. Like, I don't know which one that would be, but I would really like to do it. But I just, I can't commit to it yet.		'''Myke Hurley:''' That may be in the latter months of 2023 that I will be able to travel and we'll go to a Pen Show together. Like, I don't know which one that would be, but I would really like to do it. But I just, I can't commit to it yet.
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	'''Myke Hurley:''' I mean, the LA show's going to be high on my list because I love LA. So. Right. It's an excuse to go to LA.		'''Myke Hurley:''' I mean, the LA show's going to be high on my list because I love LA. So. Right. It's an excuse to go to LA.

	'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yep. Yep. So. All right. I think that's where we're at for Pen Show travel. I have shows booked. Myke and I's plans to get together are up in the air. We're going to try to do something together this year, though. And then maybe next year, we'll get back to a Pen Show or two or maybe late in the year, whatever happens. So. That's the plans. Because I know people have been asking now that Pen Show season's kicking off this weekend in Philadelphia here in the U.S. So, it'll be fun. I think Kimberly's going to be in Philadelphia. So, we should have a write-up on ~~PennAddict~~.com coming up late next week, maybe. So, yeah. I feel like it's a fun show. And I can't wait to see how it goes this year.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yep. Yep. So. All right. I think that's where we're at for Pen Show travel. I have shows booked. Myke and I's plans to get together are up in the air. We're going to try to do something together this year, though. And then maybe next year, we'll get back to a Pen Show or two or maybe late in the year, whatever happens. So. That's the plans. Because I know people have been asking now that Pen Show season's kicking off this weekend in Philadelphia here in the U.S. So, it'll be fun. I think Kimberly's going to be in Philadelphia. So, we should have a write-up on PenAddict.com coming up late next week, maybe. So, yeah. I feel like it's a fun show. And I can't wait to see how it goes this year.

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| name = The Pen Addict
| number = 546
| title = Getting Together and Doing Pen Stuff
| date = January 11th, 2023
| hosts = [[Brad Dowdy]]<br>
[[Myke Hurley]]
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| link = [https://www.relay.fm/penaddict/546 Episode 546]
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| length = 60
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	'''Brad Dowdy:''' I mean, that was literally Mario's sentence. Like, he knows. And I told him I would come if I could. And I checked my schedule, and I can't. So, maybe next year I will plan on the California pen show. We'll see.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' I mean, that was literally Mario's sentence. Like, he knows. And I told him I would come if I could. And I checked my schedule, and I can't. So, maybe next year I will plan on the California pen show. We'll see.

	'''Myke Hurley:''' I would put this one on the list of future pen shows. Basically, as well, just through a bunch of scheduling things, at least for the first half of this year. Like, I'm not going to be able to go to any of these. There's just, like, a bunch of stuff with the house, other potential travel this year that I don't know yet and need to try and budget for. And we have some exciting family events going on in the Hurley family. Like, my brother and his wife are going to be having a baby in the spring. And so... Nice. Nice. I know. It's like, I would love to go to Chicago, but it's basically that time, and you've got to prioritize. But, yeah, so that's also to say is I'm not going to be coming out to Atlanta this year. It's still something... All right, let me... I'm just going to be real with everyone about why I'm not doing this. Yeah, jump into it. Because me and you have spoken about it. Yes, we have. People want to know anyway, so... So, the Atlanta ~~Penn~~ Show has obviously been, like, our big thing. And we'd actually, I think, made reference to the fact that we would like to do it and come back again, right? But here's the situation as I see it.		'''Myke Hurley:''' I would put this one on the list of future pen shows. Basically, as well, just through a bunch of scheduling things, at least for the first half of this year. Like, I'm not going to be able to go to any of these. There's just, like, a bunch of stuff with the house, other potential travel this year that I don't know yet and need to try and budget for. And we have some exciting family events going on in the Hurley family. Like, my brother and his wife are going to be having a baby in the spring. And so... Nice. Nice. I know. It's like, I would love to go to Chicago, but it's basically that time, and you've got to prioritize. But, yeah, so that's also to say is I'm not going to be coming out to Atlanta this year. It's still something... All right, let me... I'm just going to be real with everyone about why I'm not doing this. Yeah, jump into it. Because me and you have spoken about it. Yes, we have. People want to know anyway, so... So, the Atlanta Pen Show has obviously been, like, our big thing. And we'd actually, I think, made reference to the fact that we would like to do it and come back again, right? But here's the situation as I see it.

	'''Myke Hurley:''' The show is different now that Brad isn't exhibiting. So, if I come down, I don't have as much to do, right? Like, I can go and look around the show or whatever, but that's like a one-day thing, and I've kind of seen all I would need to see, by and large, right? Mm-hmm. And so, then the rest of the time, I would want to be there the whole time, and there's just, you know, we're not going to have as much to do. I'm not going to come in for just Friday and Saturday. It's like so much to, like, travel for that. And then, if I'm going to be... If the two of us are going to be at the Atlanta ~~Penn~~ Show together,		'''Myke Hurley:''' The show is different now that Brad isn't exhibiting. So, if I come down, I don't have as much to do, right? Like, I can go and look around the show or whatever, but that's like a one-day thing, and I've kind of seen all I would need to see, by and large, right? Mm-hmm. And so, then the rest of the time, I would want to be there the whole time, and there's just, you know, we're not going to have as much to do. I'm not going to come in for just Friday and Saturday. It's like so much to, like, travel for that. And then, if I'm going to be... If the two of us are going to be at the Atlanta Pen Show together,

	'''Myke Hurley:''' we would naturally be recording a live episode of the show. It's kind of the whole point now. Mm-hmm. The problem I see is the space that we have is a unventilated hotel ballroom. Now, I do figure at some point we will get back to doing that. My issue is for the first live show that RelayFM has put on since 2019, I'm not sure that's the right first step. So, like, we would maybe want a bigger space where it just doesn't feel so enclosed. And I'm not saying that, like, one has more chance of exposing people to coronavirus than the other. It's more for me of, like, how it would feel for that to be the first live show. Now, of course, I would love the Penn Addict to have the first live show because it was. Right? Right. Like, all of the first live shows you've ever done were the Penn Addict. But the problem is I just don't know if that particular setup at the Atlanta ~~Penn~~ Show works. Like, say, like, when we did San Francisco, way bigger room. Like, the thing with the Atlanta ~~Penn~~ Show, we finished those shows and we're just, like, sweating. It's, like, so hot in that room. Yeah. Right? Which just proves the lack of ventilation that's going on in there. Not a knock against anyone. We pack it out. Right? We go to, like, fire marshal limits every time. Right. I just don't think this is the right setup for the first live show. So, we're going to skip out on this one this year. Yeah.		'''Myke Hurley:''' we would naturally be recording a live episode of the show. It's kind of the whole point now. Mm-hmm. The problem I see is the space that we have is a unventilated hotel ballroom. Now, I do figure at some point we will get back to doing that. My issue is for the first live show that RelayFM has put on since 2019, I'm not sure that's the right first step. So, like, we would maybe want a bigger space where it just doesn't feel so enclosed. And I'm not saying that, like, one has more chance of exposing people to coronavirus than the other. It's more for me of, like, how it would feel for that to be the first live show. Now, of course, I would love the Penn Addict to have the first live show because it was. Right? Right. Like, all of the first live shows you've ever done were the Penn Addict. But the problem is I just don't know if that particular setup at the Atlanta Pen Show works. Like, say, like, when we did San Francisco, way bigger room. Like, the thing with the Atlanta Pen Show, we finished those shows and we're just, like, sweating. It's, like, so hot in that room. Yeah. Right? Which just proves the lack of ventilation that's going on in there. Not a knock against anyone. We pack it out. Right? We go to, like, fire marshal limits every time. Right. I just don't think this is the right setup for the first live show. So, we're going to skip out on this one this year. Yeah.

	'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. So, like, it's just not the right time or place. And Myke and I are in 100% agreement on this. You know, we hope to get back to the Atlanta ~~Penn~~ Show, doing live shows, doing other events, doing things like that.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. So, like, it's just not the right time or place. And Myke and I are in 100% agreement on this. You know, we hope to get back to the Atlanta Pen Show, doing live shows, doing other events, doing things like that.

	'''Brad Dowdy:''' So, what are we going to do, Myke? Are we going to do something where we can get together, go to a show, or have some other ideas? Hopefully. We think we have a really solid idea for 2023. It involves me traveling instead of Myke, specifically. But we're not ready to, like, announce anything yet. But we have a general idea of what we'd like to do for 2023. Because we want to do something. We enjoy getting together and doing Penn stuff. And, you know, having stuff for the podcast and sharing stuff with our followers and listeners.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' So, what are we going to do, Myke? Are we going to do something where we can get together, go to a show, or have some other ideas? Hopefully. We think we have a really solid idea for 2023. It involves me traveling instead of Myke, specifically. But we're not ready to, like, announce anything yet. But we have a general idea of what we'd like to do for 2023. Because we want to do something. We enjoy getting together and doing Penn stuff. And, you know, having stuff for the podcast and sharing stuff with our followers and listeners.

	'''Myke Hurley:''' That may be in the latter months of 2023 that I will be able to travel and we'll go to a ~~Penn~~ Show together. Like, I don't know which one that would be, but I would really like to do it. But I just, I can't commit to it yet.		'''Myke Hurley:''' That may be in the latter months of 2023 that I will be able to travel and we'll go to a Pen Show together. Like, I don't know which one that would be, but I would really like to do it. But I just, I can't commit to it yet.

	'''Brad Dowdy:''' You know what? You should go to Orlando one year so you can go to Disney World.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' You know what? You should go to Orlando one year so you can go to Disney World.
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	'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. It's not even, like, a weekend. It's, like, literally the month. The entire month.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. It's not even, like, a weekend. It's, like, literally the month. The entire month.

	'''Myke Hurley:''' You know, if the Orlando ~~Penn~~ Show wouldn't mind moving their show to August or October, that'd be great. Okay. Work on that. Just a personal, I'm just trying to manifest. Right? I'm just putting that out there.		'''Myke Hurley:''' You know, if the Orlando Pen Show wouldn't mind moving their show to August or October, that'd be great. Okay. Work on that. Just a personal, I'm just trying to manifest. Right? I'm just putting that out there.

	'''Brad Dowdy:''' So, you know, maybe in 2024, just on the short list, like, Baltimore, Chicago, and LA, aka the California ~~Penn~~ Show, I think those three should be on our list. Baltimore is always tough because it's early, right? It's early in the year. We tend to, like, to go later in the year. Chicago, May. California's in February, which is also tough. So, I don't know. This is all stuff we can talk. We're now just having a meeting.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' So, you know, maybe in 2024, just on the short list, like, Baltimore, Chicago, and LA, aka the California Pen Show, I think those three should be on our list. Baltimore is always tough because it's early, right? It's early in the year. We tend to, like, to go later in the year. Chicago, May. California's in February, which is also tough. So, I don't know. This is all stuff we can talk. We're now just having a meeting.

	'''Myke Hurley:''' I mean, the LA show's going to be high on my list because I love LA. So. Right. It's an excuse to go to LA.		'''Myke Hurley:''' I mean, the LA show's going to be high on my list because I love LA. So. Right. It's an excuse to go to LA.

	'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yep. Yep. So. All right. I think that's where we're at for ~~Penn~~ Show travel. I have shows booked. Myke and I's plans to get together are up in the air. We're going to try to do something together this year, though. And then maybe next year, we'll get back to a ~~Penn~~ Show or two or maybe late in the year, whatever happens. So. That's the plans. Because I know people have been asking now that ~~Penn~~ Show season's kicking off this weekend in Philadelphia here in the U.S. So, it'll be fun. I think Kimberly's going to be in Philadelphia. So, we should have a write-up on PennAddict.com coming up late next week, maybe. So, yeah. I feel like it's a fun show. And I can't wait to see how it goes this year.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yep. Yep. So. All right. I think that's where we're at for Pen Show travel. I have shows booked. Myke and I's plans to get together are up in the air. We're going to try to do something together this year, though. And then maybe next year, we'll get back to a Pen Show or two or maybe late in the year, whatever happens. So. That's the plans. Because I know people have been asking now that Pen Show season's kicking off this weekend in Philadelphia here in the U.S. So, it'll be fun. I think Kimberly's going to be in Philadelphia. So, we should have a write-up on PennAddict.com coming up late next week, maybe. So, yeah. I feel like it's a fun show. And I can't wait to see how it goes this year.


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	'''Brad Dowdy:''' What do you do at ~~Penn~~ Shows, Myke? You buy pens. And that has been... I'm still recovering from San Francisco and Orlando 2022 of all the things I bought. So, I haven't really bought any pens for myself since the Orlando ~~Penn~~ Show. I was joking with on Twitch, and I probably said it here on the podcast, that I still have a couple of pens that I bought in Orlando that I have not inked up yet. That's just how it's gone.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' What do you do at Pen Shows, Myke? You buy pens. And that has been... I'm still recovering from San Francisco and Orlando 2022 of all the things I bought. So, I haven't really bought any pens for myself since the Orlando Pen Show. I was joking with on Twitch, and I probably said it here on the podcast, that I still have a couple of pens that I bought in Orlando that I have not inked up yet. That's just how it's gone.

	'''Brad Dowdy:''' But I did make my first purchase of the year. I was peer pressured. You know me. It takes a real twist of Brad's arm for him to buy a pen, right? Oh, Brad, you should buy this. Okay. And that's how it was with the Jinhao X159. So, if you're familiar with Jinhao, they make low-cost fountain pens. A lot of them are very similar in style and design to popular pens. You know, they're not necessarily coming up with original exterior shapes. Myke even has a comment we will talk about here momentarily.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' But I did make my first purchase of the year. I was peer pressured. You know me. It takes a real twist of Brad's arm for him to buy a pen, right? Oh, Brad, you should buy this. Okay. And that's how it was with the Jinhao X159. So, if you're familiar with Jinhao, they make low-cost fountain pens. A lot of them are very similar in style and design to popular pens. You know, they're not necessarily coming up with original exterior shapes. Myke even has a comment we will talk about here momentarily.