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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Myke Hurley:&#039;&#039;&#039; Right. I mean, that&#039;s a question in retail in general, right? So without being an economist or someone who studies the retail market completely, MSRPs just seem like this nebulous thing, right? They&#039;re listed by these manufacturers as the suggested retailing price. But that manufacturer then hands that off to a distributor. And then that distributor relays that information along with the pricing to their retailers. And usually the distributor has an agreement with the retailer based on the various manufacturers they work with, how much percentage off they can sell under the MSRP. In the fountain pen world, it&#039;s not consistent with everyone. But a lot of times, most fountain pens you see at retailers are 20% off MSRP. Right. So if the pen is $80 in the case of the Curie Doss, the retailers would sell it for $64. They get that information from the distributor and then the retailers all price it the same. Right. It&#039;s, you know, it&#039;s just like this balance thing. Right. That&#039;s how it&#039;s generally done. So what Platinum did last week, or actually just earlier this week, they notified the U.S. distributor and the U.S. distributor passed it along to the retailers that the retailers had had until Wednesday, which is the day we&#039;re recording, to adjust their prices on the site to the full 100% of MSRP, which is $80. I mean, I have no problem with pricing something at MSRP and selling it at that, but it&#039;s the lack of consistency in the messaging that is the problem here. Right. Because if you pick out, you know, our favorite sponsor, &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Penn &lt;/del&gt;Chalet, right, you go, you can go to the site and you can look up a Curie Doss and I&#039;m not looking at maybe their prices implemented. Maybe it&#039;s not yet. I haven&#039;t looked, but you can, I&#039;ve verified on other sites and that have made the change. The Platinum Curie Doss is full MSRP. The Platinum 3776s are 20% off MSRP.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Myke Hurley:&#039;&#039;&#039; Right. I mean, that&#039;s a question in retail in general, right? So without being an economist or someone who studies the retail market completely, MSRPs just seem like this nebulous thing, right? They&#039;re listed by these manufacturers as the suggested retailing price. But that manufacturer then hands that off to a distributor. And then that distributor relays that information along with the pricing to their retailers. And usually the distributor has an agreement with the retailer based on the various manufacturers they work with, how much percentage off they can sell under the MSRP. In the fountain pen world, it&#039;s not consistent with everyone. But a lot of times, most fountain pens you see at retailers are 20% off MSRP. Right. So if the pen is $80 in the case of the Curie Doss, the retailers would sell it for $64. They get that information from the distributor and then the retailers all price it the same. Right. It&#039;s, you know, it&#039;s just like this balance thing. Right. That&#039;s how it&#039;s generally done. So what Platinum did last week, or actually just earlier this week, they notified the U.S. distributor and the U.S. distributor passed it along to the retailers that the retailers had had until Wednesday, which is the day we&#039;re recording, to adjust their prices on the site to the full 100% of MSRP, which is $80. I mean, I have no problem with pricing something at MSRP and selling it at that, but it&#039;s the lack of consistency in the messaging that is the problem here. Right. Because if you pick out, you know, our favorite sponsor, &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Pen &lt;/ins&gt;Chalet, right, you go, you can go to the site and you can look up a Curie Doss and I&#039;m not looking at maybe their prices implemented. Maybe it&#039;s not yet. I haven&#039;t looked, but you can, I&#039;ve verified on other sites and that have made the change. The Platinum Curie Doss is full MSRP. The Platinum 3776s are 20% off MSRP.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Myke Hurley:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; What message are they sending? It sounds like Platinum is trying to stick it to me, even though they&amp;#039;re not, right? Platinum&amp;#039;s enforcing an MSRP, but they&amp;#039;re not consistent in the enforcement. And that&amp;#039;s where I start to question things.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Myke Hurley:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; What message are they sending? It sounds like Platinum is trying to stick it to me, even though they&amp;#039;re not, right? Platinum&amp;#039;s enforcing an MSRP, but they&amp;#039;re not consistent in the enforcement. And that&amp;#039;s where I start to question things.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Myke Hurley:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Well, I think this, I think it benefits, it benefits the retailer because now their decision&amp;#039;s made for them. And in something like the Curie Doss, they&amp;#039;re going to still sell all of them. No, that&amp;#039;s what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Myke Hurley:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Well, I think this, I think it benefits, it benefits the retailer because now their decision&amp;#039;s made for them. And in something like the Curie Doss, they&amp;#039;re going to still sell all of them. No, that&amp;#039;s what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Brad Dowdy:&#039;&#039;&#039; It benefits the retailer this time. It&#039;s typically a negative by them having to, like, for example, if &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Penn &lt;/del&gt;Chalet brings the price down by 10%, then so does Anderson Pens, so does Gray Pens. Like, everyone has to follow suit. So, like, then you end up with potentially a bigger retailer that can stomach the price change more easily, bringing it down, and then everybody else has to follow, and maybe they can&#039;t afford those margins as much.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Brad Dowdy:&#039;&#039;&#039; It benefits the retailer this time. It&#039;s typically a negative by them having to, like, for example, if &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Pen &lt;/ins&gt;Chalet brings the price down by 10%, then so does Anderson Pens, so does Gray Pens. Like, everyone has to follow suit. So, like, then you end up with potentially a bigger retailer that can stomach the price change more easily, bringing it down, and then everybody else has to follow, and maybe they can&#039;t afford those margins as much.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Myke Hurley:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Correct.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Myke Hurley:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Correct.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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