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	'''Brad Dowdy:''' It's now off the table. So we're starting from zero, and this is where I'm a little bit lost in this whole thing. This is where yesterday's news really messed me up.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' It's now off the table. So we're starting from zero, and this is where I'm a little bit lost in this whole thing. This is where yesterday's news really messed me up.

	'''Myke Hurley:''' We are starting from scratch about 10 days to two weeks before we should have the Kickstarter campaign live to make sure that we can get the money in time for April. So we're at a bit of a loss right now about what we're going to do. And so one of the reasons that one of the many reasons that we wanted to do a Retro 51 was so the onus was not on ~~NOC~~ this year to produce a reward. And change it up. Yeah, and to do something new, but that was also a thing of like, okay, maybe it's time we start working with other people in the community and we start making other limited edition products, right? Right. The first of those was of course going to be a Retro 51 because of how much we love that company and how they have been so woven into the history of the show, right? That it just made perfect sense that the first company that we would work with outside of ~~NOC~~ would be Retro 51. But now we don't really... Because as well, it wasn't just that we were going to make the pen. We were also hoping to go to their factory and like shoot video of making it and like behind the scenes at Retro 51 and all that kind of stuff. So we can't do that now, which makes things very difficult. And much love to Dallas, right? But like that was the reason we were doing the Dallas Pen show. So that reason has changed now. And depending on what we now do for the campaign, it puts the second show up in the air again. Now we haven't... It's kind of funny. Me and Brad have not actually really spoken about this yet. We were deciding to have some of this conversation on the show today. Like we've had some very brief conversations.		'''Myke Hurley:''' We are starting from scratch about 10 days to two weeks before we should have the Kickstarter campaign live to make sure that we can get the money in time for April. So we're at a bit of a loss right now about what we're going to do. And so one of the reasons that one of the many reasons that we wanted to do a Retro 51 was so the onus was not on Nock this year to produce a reward. And change it up. Yeah, and to do something new, but that was also a thing of like, okay, maybe it's time we start working with other people in the community and we start making other limited edition products, right? Right. The first of those was of course going to be a Retro 51 because of how much we love that company and how they have been so woven into the history of the show, right? That it just made perfect sense that the first company that we would work with outside of Nock would be Retro 51. But now we don't really... Because as well, it wasn't just that we were going to make the pen. We were also hoping to go to their factory and like shoot video of making it and like behind the scenes at Retro 51 and all that kind of stuff. So we can't do that now, which makes things very difficult. And much love to Dallas, right? But like that was the reason we were doing the Dallas Pen show. So that reason has changed now. And depending on what we now do for the campaign, it puts the second show up in the air again. Now we haven't... It's kind of funny. Me and Brad have not actually really spoken about this yet. We were deciding to have some of this conversation on the show today. Like we've had some very brief conversations.

	'''Brad Dowdy:''' Because this really just all happened last night.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' Because this really just all happened last night.

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	'''Brad Dowdy:''' It's now off the table. So we're starting from zero, and this is where I'm a little bit lost in this whole thing. This is where yesterday's news really messed me up.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' It's now off the table. So we're starting from zero, and this is where I'm a little bit lost in this whole thing. This is where yesterday's news really messed me up.

	'''Myke Hurley:''' We are starting from scratch about 10 days to two weeks before we should have the Kickstarter campaign live to make sure that we can get the money in time for April. So we're at a bit of a loss right now about what we're going to do. And so one of the reasons that one of the many reasons that we wanted to do a Retro 51 was so the onus was not on NOC this year to produce a reward. And change it up. Yeah, and to do something new, but that was also a thing of like, okay, maybe it's time we start working with other people in the community and we start making other limited edition products, right? Right. The first of those was of course going to be a Retro 51 because of how much we love that company and how they have been so woven into the history of the show, right? That it just made perfect sense that the first company that we would work with outside of NOC would be Retro 51. But now we don't really... Because as well, it wasn't just that we were going to make the pen. We were also hoping to go to their factory and like shoot video of making it and like behind the scenes at Retro 51 and all that kind of stuff. So we can't do that now, which makes things very difficult. And much love to Dallas, right? But like that was the reason we were doing the Dallas ~~Penn~~ show. So that reason has changed now. And depending on what we now do for the campaign, it puts the second show up in the air again. Now we haven't... It's kind of funny. Me and Brad have not actually really spoken about this yet. We were deciding to have some of this conversation on the show today. Like we've had some very brief conversations.		'''Myke Hurley:''' We are starting from scratch about 10 days to two weeks before we should have the Kickstarter campaign live to make sure that we can get the money in time for April. So we're at a bit of a loss right now about what we're going to do. And so one of the reasons that one of the many reasons that we wanted to do a Retro 51 was so the onus was not on NOC this year to produce a reward. And change it up. Yeah, and to do something new, but that was also a thing of like, okay, maybe it's time we start working with other people in the community and we start making other limited edition products, right? Right. The first of those was of course going to be a Retro 51 because of how much we love that company and how they have been so woven into the history of the show, right? That it just made perfect sense that the first company that we would work with outside of NOC would be Retro 51. But now we don't really... Because as well, it wasn't just that we were going to make the pen. We were also hoping to go to their factory and like shoot video of making it and like behind the scenes at Retro 51 and all that kind of stuff. So we can't do that now, which makes things very difficult. And much love to Dallas, right? But like that was the reason we were doing the Dallas Pen show. So that reason has changed now. And depending on what we now do for the campaign, it puts the second show up in the air again. Now we haven't... It's kind of funny. Me and Brad have not actually really spoken about this yet. We were deciding to have some of this conversation on the show today. Like we've had some very brief conversations.

	'''Brad Dowdy:''' Because this really just all happened last night.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' Because this really just all happened last night.

	'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. And so we don't really know what to do. So of course we do in Atlanta, right? Like that's a lock, right? But we now need to decide what we're doing for either the second show or the physical reward and both. Yeah, both. Right? Because I would love to go to Dallas, right? Because I have friends in Dallas who I can spend time with. And it's like a great reason. Plus the Dallas ~~Penn~~ show is a perfect time for me because I'll already be in America for the second annual St. Jude Podcast-a-thon. That's happening. We're doing it again. And like the Dallas ~~Penn~~ show is basically within a week or two when I'll be in Memphis. It's like it's perfect, right? I can go out for that, jump over. Brilliant. And then also there's an added benefit there of it reduces the cost for the podcast-a-thon because I can fly out to America on... I'll already be there, right? Right. So it's like it all balances out, right? So it's... So we don't know what to do now. So like, yes, we can do Dallas, right? Like, why not? We'd love to.		'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. And so we don't really know what to do. So of course we do in Atlanta, right? Like that's a lock, right? But we now need to decide what we're doing for either the second show or the physical reward and both. Yeah, both. Right? Because I would love to go to Dallas, right? Because I have friends in Dallas who I can spend time with. And it's like a great reason. Plus the Dallas Pen show is a perfect time for me because I'll already be in America for the second annual St. Jude Podcast-a-thon. That's happening. We're doing it again. And like the Dallas Pen show is basically within a week or two when I'll be in Memphis. It's like it's perfect, right? I can go out for that, jump over. Brilliant. And then also there's an added benefit there of it reduces the cost for the podcast-a-thon because I can fly out to America on... I'll already be there, right? Right. So it's like it all balances out, right? So it's... So we don't know what to do now. So like, yes, we can do Dallas, right? Like, why not? We'd love to.

	'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah.
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	'''Myke Hurley:''' Cause I knew I wanted it and I wanted to make sure I had it. Same reason of you, like you were just saying, right? Like I know I want this pen. I know there's not many of them. I know it's going to be popular. I want it. Mm-hmm.		'''Myke Hurley:''' Cause I knew I wanted it and I wanted to make sure I had it. Same reason of you, like you were just saying, right? Like I know I want this pen. I know there's not many of them. I know it's going to be popular. I want it. Mm-hmm.

	'''Brad Dowdy:''' And I passed, you know, just having some, attempting to have some discretion in purchases. And then I kept seeing the pen. I kept trying it. I tried yours. Like when we were getting San Francisco and I was like, I really enjoy this pen. And I think I've even mentioned to you, I was like, yeah, I probably should have bought this pen and didn't really think too much of it. Didn't try to hunt one down. But when one randomly crosses your path like this and you've been eyeballing it and thinking about it for a while, well, let's just say it came home with me. So, um, I got that and I took it over to Gina from a custom nib studio who put a stub nib on this pen and it's just glorious. And apologies to, uh, Gina. I will now spell her name, her first name right from now on. It's G E N A not G I N A. Um, thank you for those who corrected me and my apologies to Gina. But one of the things she did that was pretty cool while I was sitting there, she was, um, putting the grind on this King of ~~Penn~~. She had, you know, one of those little lab racks with the plastic vials in it with nibs in them. And they were all pre-ground nibs on Yovo steel nibs. She just basically had pre-ground nibs that you could buy. So I bought one, a broad architect nib to go in the shown design. Yeah.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' And I passed, you know, just having some, attempting to have some discretion in purchases. And then I kept seeing the pen. I kept trying it. I tried yours. Like when we were getting San Francisco and I was like, I really enjoy this pen. And I think I've even mentioned to you, I was like, yeah, I probably should have bought this pen and didn't really think too much of it. Didn't try to hunt one down. But when one randomly crosses your path like this and you've been eyeballing it and thinking about it for a while, well, let's just say it came home with me. So, um, I got that and I took it over to Gina from a custom nib studio who put a stub nib on this pen and it's just glorious. And apologies to, uh, Gina. I will now spell her name, her first name right from now on. It's G E N A not G I N A. Um, thank you for those who corrected me and my apologies to Gina. But one of the things she did that was pretty cool while I was sitting there, she was, um, putting the grind on this King of Pen. She had, you know, one of those little lab racks with the plastic vials in it with nibs in them. And they were all pre-ground nibs on Yovo steel nibs. She just basically had pre-ground nibs that you could buy. So I bought one, a broad architect nib to go in the shown design. Yeah.

	'''Myke Hurley:''' That's a really good idea.		'''Myke Hurley:''' That's a really good idea.

	'''Brad Dowdy:''' I don't know how many she brought with her, but there were only three left on Saturday morning when I was sitting with her and I bought one of them. So I'm sure she sold them all. It was a great idea. So I bought the nib, got the nib work done on the King of ~~Penn~~ and picked up an extra nib that I wanted, which is why I like the Yovo nibs because I have so many of them that fit in so many different pens. So, um, aside from that, you know, I picked up a couple other things to give away another shown pen to give away, uh, that Ian, uh, donated to the cause, which I appreciated. I grabbed an Esther Brook to review, uh, from Kenro Industries on loan from them. So, you know, I just picked up some few things like that, mostly for the blog and giveaway purpose purposes. So for me, I bought the new shown design pocket six and the King of ~~Penn~~ Royal Tangerine, and that was plenty.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' I don't know how many she brought with her, but there were only three left on Saturday morning when I was sitting with her and I bought one of them. So I'm sure she sold them all. It was a great idea. So I bought the nib, got the nib work done on the King of Pen and picked up an extra nib that I wanted, which is why I like the Yovo nibs because I have so many of them that fit in so many different pens. So, um, aside from that, you know, I picked up a couple other things to give away another shown pen to give away, uh, that Ian, uh, donated to the cause, which I appreciated. I grabbed an Esther Brook to review, uh, from Kenro Industries on loan from them. So, you know, I just picked up some few things like that, mostly for the blog and giveaway purpose purposes. So for me, I bought the new shown design pocket six and the King of Pen Royal Tangerine, and that was plenty.

	'''Myke Hurley:''' Sounds like a solid show for you there.		'''Myke Hurley:''' Sounds like a solid show for you there.

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	'''Myke Hurley:''' So they have a pipeline, right? Yeah. And they get stuff out. And then, yeah.		'''Myke Hurley:''' So they have a pipeline, right? Yeah. And they get stuff out. And then, yeah.

	'''Brad Dowdy:''' Right. So their pipeline is pretty long. Like they know like the rest of their time, you know, the next six months or so, they know what's coming out. So they'll say, oh, we have this announcement coming. And just hang tight on that design or whatever. And so I didn't think too much about it. And then I went to the Philadelphia ~~Penn~~ Show. And some of my friends in the business started asking me what I knew. And I'm like, huh, that email just became a lot more interesting. And so I talked to a couple people this weekend. They were under the same impression that I was that something was coming. And that's probably what it was, that they were just going to close down. But the weird thing was, was it just going to shut down? Like, you know, go off into retirement and, you know, sunset the company. Were they going to sell the company? Or what was actually going to happen? And this letter didn't really clear that up. The way I read this, and I would wager you read it the same way, is I just think they're done. Like, I think they're just, like, going to finish out the rest of this year. Unload all their, you know, finish all their current projects. And then just hang a sign on the door and say, you know, thanks. Thanks for everything.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' Right. So their pipeline is pretty long. Like they know like the rest of their time, you know, the next six months or so, they know what's coming out. So they'll say, oh, we have this announcement coming. And just hang tight on that design or whatever. And so I didn't think too much about it. And then I went to the Philadelphia Pen Show. And some of my friends in the business started asking me what I knew. And I'm like, huh, that email just became a lot more interesting. And so I talked to a couple people this weekend. They were under the same impression that I was that something was coming. And that's probably what it was, that they were just going to close down. But the weird thing was, was it just going to shut down? Like, you know, go off into retirement and, you know, sunset the company. Were they going to sell the company? Or what was actually going to happen? And this letter didn't really clear that up. The way I read this, and I would wager you read it the same way, is I just think they're done. Like, I think they're just, like, going to finish out the rest of this year. Unload all their, you know, finish all their current projects. And then just hang a sign on the door and say, you know, thanks. Thanks for everything.

	'''Myke Hurley:''' Like, the idea of saying that you're retiring and then saying Retro could come back of a new business plan that we feel will thrive. Like, that doesn't make any sense, right? Like, those two things don't seem to make sense. Like, the people that are retiring are surely not going to go away and retool and come back, right? Like, that just seems very unlikely. But the thing for me is, like, it just seems so interesting to just do this. Like, this is what you do. I mean, if you're proud of your thing and you don't want it to be ruined by somebody else, then, yeah, like, I get it. Like, close it down. But this is a brand which has value. And if you just want to retire, then maybe there's some benefit in trying to sell that or license that brand and the intellectual property to somebody who can carry it on so you make more money. But maybe if that's not what you want, like, if you don't care about the money but you care about your legacy, right, then maybe you don't want to sell it. The reason I'm saying this is because I'm desperately interested in seeing how much it will cost to buy this company.		'''Myke Hurley:''' Like, the idea of saying that you're retiring and then saying Retro could come back of a new business plan that we feel will thrive. Like, that doesn't make any sense, right? Like, those two things don't seem to make sense. Like, the people that are retiring are surely not going to go away and retool and come back, right? Like, that just seems very unlikely. But the thing for me is, like, it just seems so interesting to just do this. Like, this is what you do. I mean, if you're proud of your thing and you don't want it to be ruined by somebody else, then, yeah, like, I get it. Like, close it down. But this is a brand which has value. And if you just want to retire, then maybe there's some benefit in trying to sell that or license that brand and the intellectual property to somebody who can carry it on so you make more money. But maybe if that's not what you want, like, if you don't care about the money but you care about your legacy, right, then maybe you don't want to sell it. The reason I'm saying this is because I'm desperately interested in seeing how much it will cost to buy this company.
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	'''Myke Hurley:''' I'm intrigued to see them in person. I expect they'll be more vibrant than the image that was sent to us via Calligraphy Nut. Like. Yeah. I expect that there's more to them when you see them.		'''Myke Hurley:''' I'm intrigued to see them in person. I expect they'll be more vibrant than the image that was sent to us via Calligraphy Nut. Like. Yeah. I expect that there's more to them when you see them.

	'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. I do like the, um, this, the matching color clips and hardware. Yeah. Right. That's cool. That's something they haven't done in recent, recently for this limited edition set. Like, they're fine. Like, I don't, I guess, I guess my bigger question is, I don't know what I expect from them anymore. Like, this meets expectations. Right? It's a 7 out of 10 or whatever. You know? So, it's fine. It's good. Like, it's going to do really well. Um, I honestly think it'll probably do better than the pastels last year. I think the pastels really popped in, uh, marketing and PR and imagery and fell a little flat in person. This might be the opposite situation, uh, this year. So, we'll see. I'm interested to see if they do a limited ink with the mango. Because they've already done things in aquamarine and violet before. You know, in those ballparks of colors. I'm interested to see, do any of these or all of these get a limited edition color? So, I don't know. You know, they're fine. I'm not, like, jumping through the roof on them. Like, oh, we'll see what they are in person. They usually come out later in the spring in the U.S. So, we'll see them soon enough. Usually around the Atlanta ~~Penn~~ Show. But it's a little earlier this year. So, I don't know if they'll be ready or not. But, uh, yeah. You know, I guess I'm appropriately whelmed. And, you know, it's a thing. And they'll keep doing the thing. And they'll sell out of these. Like, they're good. They'll be fine. I don't know what I expect, though. I guess I'm expecting a little. I'm on a little needle movement, I guess, in the safari and the AL Star. Or All Star. Which one do I get yelled at about? I don't know.		'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. I do like the, um, this, the matching color clips and hardware. Yeah. Right. That's cool. That's something they haven't done in recent, recently for this limited edition set. Like, they're fine. Like, I don't, I guess, I guess my bigger question is, I don't know what I expect from them anymore. Like, this meets expectations. Right? It's a 7 out of 10 or whatever. You know? So, it's fine. It's good. Like, it's going to do really well. Um, I honestly think it'll probably do better than the pastels last year. I think the pastels really popped in, uh, marketing and PR and imagery and fell a little flat in person. This might be the opposite situation, uh, this year. So, we'll see. I'm interested to see if they do a limited ink with the mango. Because they've already done things in aquamarine and violet before. You know, in those ballparks of colors. I'm interested to see, do any of these or all of these get a limited edition color? So, I don't know. You know, they're fine. I'm not, like, jumping through the roof on them. Like, oh, we'll see what they are in person. They usually come out later in the spring in the U.S. So, we'll see them soon enough. Usually around the Atlanta Pen Show. But it's a little earlier this year. So, I don't know if they'll be ready or not. But, uh, yeah. You know, I guess I'm appropriately whelmed. And, you know, it's a thing. And they'll keep doing the thing. And they'll sell out of these. Like, they're good. They'll be fine. I don't know what I expect, though. I guess I'm expecting a little. I'm on a little needle movement, I guess, in the safari and the AL Star. Or All Star. Which one do I get yelled at about? I don't know.

	'''Myke Hurley:''' I think it's AL Star, right? Like, that's what it's supposed to be. Yeah. Well, then, I've just said that. And I could be completely wrong, too.		'''Myke Hurley:''' I think it's AL Star, right? Like, that's what it's supposed to be. Yeah. Well, then, I've just said that. And I could be completely wrong, too.

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