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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Kerry Yeager:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Thanks. Thanks. I really have to say I appreciate hearing that because we do, we put a lot into it. And, you know, I work with some really incredible people. I am fortunate and I can assure you and the whole audience out there, I really do appreciate and understand and, you know, being, that&amp;#039;s one thing about getting older. I&amp;#039;ve noticed you kind of learn to appreciate things that you normally would just be like, ah, that&amp;#039;s cool. But I truly do. I really, I work with great people. I get to do a lot. I get to travel a lot. I get to see, I get to hang out with the community all the time. I mean, my job is being out there with the people, you know, going to a pen show. That&amp;#039;s my job. Really? You know, and people will come up to the table and they&amp;#039;d be like, what are you doing? Like, what&amp;#039;s new? What&amp;#039;s going on? And I&amp;#039;m like, well, you&amp;#039;re on your day off visiting the pen show. And I said, I&amp;#039;m working right now, you know? And obviously I say that to our group kind of people and they laugh and they get it. Oh my God, it must be great. And I&amp;#039;m like, you want to know something? Really? I hate to say it, but it is. And, you know, cause I get to play with all the prototypes and all the new stuff that comes in and get to just, you know, the new gochernib comes in and it&amp;#039;s like, everyone&amp;#039;s like, oh, this is cool. And everyone tries it. And then my job, my job is, you know, Joel&amp;#039;s saying, Carrie here, take this home for the weekend and fool around and play with it. And tell me what you think. You know, we, we&amp;#039;ll talk about it on Monday. And I&amp;#039;m like, that&amp;#039;s my, that&amp;#039;s my job. Really? I mean, I can remember blogging and I would just be like, can I just review a Ypsilon please? Oh yes. Yes. And now it&amp;#039;s, you know, you&amp;#039;re just in it all day long. And, but again, like I said, the point to that was just to say, truly, I am thankful. I really understand how good I have it and being able to do what I love every day as much as I do. It just, it&amp;#039;s, it&amp;#039;s really, really, it&amp;#039;s a great feeling.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Kerry Yeager:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Thanks. Thanks. I really have to say I appreciate hearing that because we do, we put a lot into it. And, you know, I work with some really incredible people. I am fortunate and I can assure you and the whole audience out there, I really do appreciate and understand and, you know, being, that&amp;#039;s one thing about getting older. I&amp;#039;ve noticed you kind of learn to appreciate things that you normally would just be like, ah, that&amp;#039;s cool. But I truly do. I really, I work with great people. I get to do a lot. I get to travel a lot. I get to see, I get to hang out with the community all the time. I mean, my job is being out there with the people, you know, going to a pen show. That&amp;#039;s my job. Really? You know, and people will come up to the table and they&amp;#039;d be like, what are you doing? Like, what&amp;#039;s new? What&amp;#039;s going on? And I&amp;#039;m like, well, you&amp;#039;re on your day off visiting the pen show. And I said, I&amp;#039;m working right now, you know? And obviously I say that to our group kind of people and they laugh and they get it. Oh my God, it must be great. And I&amp;#039;m like, you want to know something? Really? I hate to say it, but it is. And, you know, cause I get to play with all the prototypes and all the new stuff that comes in and get to just, you know, the new gochernib comes in and it&amp;#039;s like, everyone&amp;#039;s like, oh, this is cool. And everyone tries it. And then my job, my job is, you know, Joel&amp;#039;s saying, Carrie here, take this home for the weekend and fool around and play with it. And tell me what you think. You know, we, we&amp;#039;ll talk about it on Monday. And I&amp;#039;m like, that&amp;#039;s my, that&amp;#039;s my job. Really? I mean, I can remember blogging and I would just be like, can I just review a Ypsilon please? Oh yes. Yes. And now it&amp;#039;s, you know, you&amp;#039;re just in it all day long. And, but again, like I said, the point to that was just to say, truly, I am thankful. I really understand how good I have it and being able to do what I love every day as much as I do. It just, it&amp;#039;s, it&amp;#039;s really, really, it&amp;#039;s a great feeling.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Brad Dowdy:&#039;&#039;&#039; Well, I&#039;m going to talk to you next about maybe not feeling so great after all the pen show travel. As much as you love it while you&#039;re there, I know how much you travel and I want to dig into that. But first I want to talk about my good friends and your good friends, Carrie Yeager at Pen Chalet. This episode of the pen addict is brought to you by Pen Chalet. They sell authentic, amazing roller balls, fountain pens, ballpoints, mechanical pencils, and so much more. They have all of your favorite brands like Monteverde, Pelican, Lamy, Pilot, Namiki, Sailor and Kaweco, and of course, are an authorized dealer. They have very fast and reliable customer service. They run special discounts twice a month, including closeout specials every two weeks. And they&#039;re always adding new styles of pens every single month. As well as the brands I mentioned earlier, Pen Chalet sells limited edition pens and all the pen accessories you ever need. Like pen carrying cases, pen holders, refills, fountain pen converters, and so much more. They have free shipping on orders over $50 in the US, but they also sell international with very reasonable shipping rates. Pen Chalet has low prices on high quality pens and offer a 100% satisfaction guarantee. So go to &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;PennChalet&lt;/del&gt;.com, click on the podcast link at the top of the website, enter the password PENADDICT for this week&#039;s special offer. And to get the code, you need to save 10% on anything at Pen Chalet. So our bit on the podcast carry is I don&#039;t get to look at these offers ahead of time. So I just rolled into the Pen Chalet site. I clicked the radio podcast button, put in the code PENADDICT, and found a crazy deal on the Platinum 3776, which is a fantastic pen. One I brag about all the time. I think it&#039;s a fantastic writer. It&#039;s a crazy good price. And secondly, and I&#039;m pretty sure Ron didn&#039;t know you&#039;re coming on this week. The second item in my list is a free Estabrook 25-ounce stainless steel bottle with any purchase of the Estabrook SD, the Estabrook SD Oversize, or the Estabrook SD SE. I swear to you, this was not planned because Ron wouldn&#039;t have known you were going to be my guest this week. So that&#039;s pretty funny. So y&#039;all should head over to Pen Chalet, check out all the deals, check out their wonderful selection of products this week. And thanks so much to Pen Chalet for sponsoring Relay FM and &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Penn &lt;/del&gt;Addict. Tell me about this water bottle. You gave me this water bottle. Whose idea was this? It&#039;s pretty cool. It&#039;s a fancy Estabrook water bottle.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Brad Dowdy:&#039;&#039;&#039; Well, I&#039;m going to talk to you next about maybe not feeling so great after all the pen show travel. As much as you love it while you&#039;re there, I know how much you travel and I want to dig into that. But first I want to talk about my good friends and your good friends, Carrie Yeager at Pen Chalet. This episode of the pen addict is brought to you by Pen Chalet. They sell authentic, amazing roller balls, fountain pens, ballpoints, mechanical pencils, and so much more. They have all of your favorite brands like Monteverde, Pelican, Lamy, Pilot, Namiki, Sailor and Kaweco, and of course, are an authorized dealer. They have very fast and reliable customer service. They run special discounts twice a month, including closeout specials every two weeks. And they&#039;re always adding new styles of pens every single month. As well as the brands I mentioned earlier, Pen Chalet sells limited edition pens and all the pen accessories you ever need. Like pen carrying cases, pen holders, refills, fountain pen converters, and so much more. They have free shipping on orders over $50 in the US, but they also sell international with very reasonable shipping rates. Pen Chalet has low prices on high quality pens and offer a 100% satisfaction guarantee. So go to &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;PenChalet&lt;/ins&gt;.com, click on the podcast link at the top of the website, enter the password PENADDICT for this week&#039;s special offer. And to get the code, you need to save 10% on anything at Pen Chalet. So our bit on the podcast carry is I don&#039;t get to look at these offers ahead of time. So I just rolled into the Pen Chalet site. I clicked the radio podcast button, put in the code PENADDICT, and found a crazy deal on the Platinum 3776, which is a fantastic pen. One I brag about all the time. I think it&#039;s a fantastic writer. It&#039;s a crazy good price. And secondly, and I&#039;m pretty sure Ron didn&#039;t know you&#039;re coming on this week. The second item in my list is a free Estabrook 25-ounce stainless steel bottle with any purchase of the Estabrook SD, the Estabrook SD Oversize, or the Estabrook SD SE. I swear to you, this was not planned because Ron wouldn&#039;t have known you were going to be my guest this week. So that&#039;s pretty funny. So y&#039;all should head over to Pen Chalet, check out all the deals, check out their wonderful selection of products this week. And thanks so much to Pen Chalet for sponsoring Relay FM and &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Pen &lt;/ins&gt;Addict. Tell me about this water bottle. You gave me this water bottle. Whose idea was this? It&#039;s pretty cool. It&#039;s a fancy Estabrook water bottle.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Kerry Yeager:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; It is. And it&amp;#039;s a water bottle. It looks like it has stickers. And they&amp;#039;re actually printed on there. So you can wash it and they don&amp;#039;t come off. But we also left a room so you can put your own stickers on there too. You can put more on there. Feel free. Never enough stickers. Never enough stickers. Bottom of the laptop, top of the laptop, you move on to the phone. So that idea was Brian, Brian Holzer, who&amp;#039;s our vice president.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Kerry Yeager:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; It is. And it&amp;#039;s a water bottle. It looks like it has stickers. And they&amp;#039;re actually printed on there. So you can wash it and they don&amp;#039;t come off. But we also left a room so you can put your own stickers on there too. You can put more on there. Feel free. Never enough stickers. Never enough stickers. Bottom of the laptop, top of the laptop, you move on to the phone. So that idea was Brian, Brian Holzer, who&amp;#039;s our vice president.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Kerry Yeager:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; So giving up weekends and traveling a lot and being away from the family is not always easy. But we&amp;#039;re with our surrogate family. You know what I mean? And that&amp;#039;s really how it feels. That&amp;#039;s why we do it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Kerry Yeager:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; So giving up weekends and traveling a lot and being away from the family is not always easy. But we&amp;#039;re with our surrogate family. You know what I mean? And that&amp;#039;s really how it feels. That&amp;#039;s why we do it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Brad Dowdy:&#039;&#039;&#039; That&#039;s a cool way to put it. And I&#039;m going to embarrass you a little bit here. So I stream on Twitch now a couple of days a week in the mornings. And we just generally chat about &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Penn &lt;/del&gt;stuff. And today when I was live streaming, the topic came up that, hey, I&#039;m talking to Kerry tonight. And, you know, do you all have any questions for Kerry? And they had a couple of questions. And I&#039;ll work those in later. But the general comments were like, oh, Kerry, I love him. He&#039;s always so happy. He&#039;s always smiling. He&#039;s always so friendly. He&#039;s always so nice. And you know what? I told them. I said, it&#039;s all true. I was like, everything you&#039;re saying is all true. Like, he is not that person that, like, takes any of this for granted. Like, he just loves doing this. So I know going to the show is how exhausting it is. But you&#039;re always, you know, you&#039;re always so nice and friendly to everyone that I see and everyone that interacts with you. So I wanted you to know that you got a bunch of shout outs on the Twitch stream today. So that was pretty funny.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Brad Dowdy:&#039;&#039;&#039; That&#039;s a cool way to put it. And I&#039;m going to embarrass you a little bit here. So I stream on Twitch now a couple of days a week in the mornings. And we just generally chat about &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Pen &lt;/ins&gt;stuff. And today when I was live streaming, the topic came up that, hey, I&#039;m talking to Kerry tonight. And, you know, do you all have any questions for Kerry? And they had a couple of questions. And I&#039;ll work those in later. But the general comments were like, oh, Kerry, I love him. He&#039;s always so happy. He&#039;s always smiling. He&#039;s always so friendly. He&#039;s always so nice. And you know what? I told them. I said, it&#039;s all true. I was like, everything you&#039;re saying is all true. Like, he is not that person that, like, takes any of this for granted. Like, he just loves doing this. So I know going to the show is how exhausting it is. But you&#039;re always, you know, you&#039;re always so nice and friendly to everyone that I see and everyone that interacts with you. So I wanted you to know that you got a bunch of shout outs on the Twitch stream today. So that was pretty funny.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Kerry Yeager:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Yeah. That&amp;#039;s cool. That&amp;#039;s good. That&amp;#039;s good to hear. It&amp;#039;s hot. You know why it&amp;#039;s good to hear? Because sometimes you feel, you&amp;#039;re in the grind too. You know, you feel like sometimes you&amp;#039;re like, I&amp;#039;m so beat. And you&amp;#039;re like, did I just do the right thing with that person? Did I? Yeah. No, I was good. I was good. Or the worst is you&amp;#039;ll, at the end of the show, you&amp;#039;ll go up to the room and you&amp;#039;ll sit down for five minutes. And then you realize it&amp;#039;s like 10 o&amp;#039;clock at night. Totally. And you go downstairs and half the people are gone and you&amp;#039;re like, you know, you, not that you need, not that you need to be there. Not that we need to be there. Everyone listening. Not that we need to be there. Right. Everybody does. But, but it&amp;#039;s just, you know, you, you just feel like you want to be, always be there to support. And, you know, I mean, for me, it&amp;#039;s always making sure I engage with people that are, that are new. And, uh, I think that&amp;#039;s why I like pen shows after dark, the way that whole thing came about, you know, Lisa and everything. And, and I just, I think it&amp;#039;s such a good way to bring so many people in because I hear that story. Sometimes somebody will come to me, you know, and it&amp;#039;s always embarrassing. It&amp;#039;s, but they&amp;#039;re like, you know, you were so nice and, and I didn&amp;#039;t know anybody. And you, you like sit at our table and just sit down and it doesn&amp;#039;t matter what you have and just hang out with us. And he&amp;#039;s like, and now I have so many friends and blah, blah, blah. And then, and, you know, it may sound trivial and silly sometimes, but it, it, it keeps people involved in something that, you know, maybe they were meant to be involved in and they didn&amp;#039;t get scared away and, and, and not be part of the community as a whole.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Kerry Yeager:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Yeah. That&amp;#039;s cool. That&amp;#039;s good. That&amp;#039;s good to hear. It&amp;#039;s hot. You know why it&amp;#039;s good to hear? Because sometimes you feel, you&amp;#039;re in the grind too. You know, you feel like sometimes you&amp;#039;re like, I&amp;#039;m so beat. And you&amp;#039;re like, did I just do the right thing with that person? Did I? Yeah. No, I was good. I was good. Or the worst is you&amp;#039;ll, at the end of the show, you&amp;#039;ll go up to the room and you&amp;#039;ll sit down for five minutes. And then you realize it&amp;#039;s like 10 o&amp;#039;clock at night. Totally. And you go downstairs and half the people are gone and you&amp;#039;re like, you know, you, not that you need, not that you need to be there. Not that we need to be there. Everyone listening. Not that we need to be there. Right. Everybody does. But, but it&amp;#039;s just, you know, you, you just feel like you want to be, always be there to support. And, you know, I mean, for me, it&amp;#039;s always making sure I engage with people that are, that are new. And, uh, I think that&amp;#039;s why I like pen shows after dark, the way that whole thing came about, you know, Lisa and everything. And, and I just, I think it&amp;#039;s such a good way to bring so many people in because I hear that story. Sometimes somebody will come to me, you know, and it&amp;#039;s always embarrassing. It&amp;#039;s, but they&amp;#039;re like, you know, you were so nice and, and I didn&amp;#039;t know anybody. And you, you like sit at our table and just sit down and it doesn&amp;#039;t matter what you have and just hang out with us. And he&amp;#039;s like, and now I have so many friends and blah, blah, blah. And then, and, you know, it may sound trivial and silly sometimes, but it, it, it keeps people involved in something that, you know, maybe they were meant to be involved in and they didn&amp;#039;t get scared away and, and, and not be part of the community as a whole.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Brad Dowdy:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Um, how did this come about and what are you, what are you most looking forward to?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Brad Dowdy:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Um, how did this come about and what are you, what are you most looking forward to?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Kerry Yeager:&#039;&#039;&#039; Um, uh, let&#039;s see. I have had, cause I talked to everybody. Um, many people say, you know, that the overseas shows, cause I always spoke about it after going, I think it came after script is the first time. And I was like, this is really cool just to see what it&#039;s like. So what show do you go to after that? And all the shows over there are one day. Madrid is the one that&#039;s actually three days. So it made, it just made more sense to shoot for that one. And last year I was actually trying to navigate how to do it. And it didn&#039;t work out. And this year navigating, navigating, and it just happened to fall into play. Uh, and it&#039;s funny at the, uh, Ed Capizzi who owns the Colorado show, who I&#039;m friends with, and I&#039;ve been always helping him with the show. He is going as well. Nice. Um, and Sarge, the one man pen show. I&#039;ve spoken to him about it a couple of times and, uh, he, you know, anything he says sounds great. First of all, the accent is just crushes it every time. Um, but he&#039;s like, oh, I might, I&#039;m not even going to try it. But he said, oh mate, I&#039;ll see you for a drink. And I was like, you know what? I got, I got to figure it out. But that being said, when I told Brian Hulser, our vice president, uh, that I was going, he, um, you know, part of, part of Estherbrook is going worldwide. It is, you know, going global. Right. And he started looking into it and we have a distributor there that we&#039;ve been working with for a while. And he didn&#039;t, you know, I think at the time, he just didn&#039;t realize that it was a three-day show because we were used to everything being one day. Long story short, it&#039;s a three-day show. There&#039;s people to see. It made it worthwhile. So Estherbrook, you know, right? Kenroll, but we&#039;re going as Estherbrook, um, is going to be a sponsor and have a table. At the Madrid &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Penn &lt;/del&gt;show.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Kerry Yeager:&#039;&#039;&#039; Um, uh, let&#039;s see. I have had, cause I talked to everybody. Um, many people say, you know, that the overseas shows, cause I always spoke about it after going, I think it came after script is the first time. And I was like, this is really cool just to see what it&#039;s like. So what show do you go to after that? And all the shows over there are one day. Madrid is the one that&#039;s actually three days. So it made, it just made more sense to shoot for that one. And last year I was actually trying to navigate how to do it. And it didn&#039;t work out. And this year navigating, navigating, and it just happened to fall into play. Uh, and it&#039;s funny at the, uh, Ed Capizzi who owns the Colorado show, who I&#039;m friends with, and I&#039;ve been always helping him with the show. He is going as well. Nice. Um, and Sarge, the one man pen show. I&#039;ve spoken to him about it a couple of times and, uh, he, you know, anything he says sounds great. First of all, the accent is just crushes it every time. Um, but he&#039;s like, oh, I might, I&#039;m not even going to try it. But he said, oh mate, I&#039;ll see you for a drink. And I was like, you know what? I got, I got to figure it out. But that being said, when I told Brian Hulser, our vice president, uh, that I was going, he, um, you know, part of, part of Estherbrook is going worldwide. It is, you know, going global. Right. And he started looking into it and we have a distributor there that we&#039;ve been working with for a while. And he didn&#039;t, you know, I think at the time, he just didn&#039;t realize that it was a three-day show because we were used to everything being one day. Long story short, it&#039;s a three-day show. There&#039;s people to see. It made it worthwhile. So Estherbrook, you know, right? Kenroll, but we&#039;re going as Estherbrook, um, is going to be a sponsor and have a table. At the Madrid &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Pen &lt;/ins&gt;show.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Brad Dowdy:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Oh, wow. That&amp;#039;s cool. That&amp;#039;s very cool.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Brad Dowdy:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Oh, wow. That&amp;#039;s cool. That&amp;#039;s very cool.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l250&quot;&gt;Line 250:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Brad Dowdy:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Yeah.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Brad Dowdy:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Yeah.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Kerry Yeager:&#039;&#039;&#039; Yeah. And, uh, you know, that this is just not right. So anyways, that&#039;s neither here nor there. The bottom line is it&#039;s a lot of fun. It gets engagement. And now you see what&#039;s happened that my dream of having retail stores open their doors and invite people in and have events on that day. And really engage with the community on like a one-to-one friends level has just expanded. And, and they do that. And it happens more and more every year across the globe. I mean, there are the Ohio &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Penn &lt;/del&gt;show is on Fountain Pen Day weekend. Terry booked the hotel for like five years straight in his contract to be on that weekend because he wanted to show on Fountain Pen Day weekend. He really, you know, got into it. And, and it&#039;s just, you know, the, the, the retailers out there tell me every year it just gets bigger and bigger. And it&#039;s become part of it, a black Friday, if you will. You know what I mean? Like everybody&#039;s got a sale, but everybody&#039;s got a sale along with something to give away. They&#039;ve got a raffle. They&#039;ve got ways for people to engage and, and get together and have meetups. And, and, you know, they&#039;re just giving back to the community, you know, on a level beyond a discount on a, on a pen. You know what I mean? And, and it&#039;s, it&#039;s a give and take.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Kerry Yeager:&#039;&#039;&#039; Yeah. And, uh, you know, that this is just not right. So anyways, that&#039;s neither here nor there. The bottom line is it&#039;s a lot of fun. It gets engagement. And now you see what&#039;s happened that my dream of having retail stores open their doors and invite people in and have events on that day. And really engage with the community on like a one-to-one friends level has just expanded. And, and they do that. And it happens more and more every year across the globe. I mean, there are the Ohio &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Pen &lt;/ins&gt;show is on Fountain Pen Day weekend. Terry booked the hotel for like five years straight in his contract to be on that weekend because he wanted to show on Fountain Pen Day weekend. He really, you know, got into it. And, and it&#039;s just, you know, the, the, the retailers out there tell me every year it just gets bigger and bigger. And it&#039;s become part of it, a black Friday, if you will. You know what I mean? Like everybody&#039;s got a sale, but everybody&#039;s got a sale along with something to give away. They&#039;ve got a raffle. They&#039;ve got ways for people to engage and, and get together and have meetups. And, and, you know, they&#039;re just giving back to the community, you know, on a level beyond a discount on a, on a pen. You know what I mean? And, and it&#039;s, it&#039;s a give and take.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Brad Dowdy:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; So that&amp;#039;s definitely a common thread between all the businesses that we work with is how willing they are to give back to their customers, to the community as a whole, you know, to put on these events during Fountain Pen Day. Like, which is, it&amp;#039;s totally taken a life of its own in these past several years. Right. It&amp;#039;s just like, it&amp;#039;s, it&amp;#039;s like anticipated and expected that, you know, your favorite retailer or your local pen store or your favorite blog or anything like that is just going to do something for Fountain Pen Day. And I think it&amp;#039;s, it&amp;#039;s pretty cool to see the community come together behind our own day, if you will. I think it&amp;#039;s just a, a really fun, fun thing to look forward to every, uh, every first Friday in November. It&amp;#039;s pretty cool. And, um, is this the first year you&amp;#039;ve made a pen along with Fountain Pen Day? I know you&amp;#039;ve designed other pens and made other pens with people, but were they for Fountain Pen Day? Tell me what you did here.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Brad Dowdy:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; So that&amp;#039;s definitely a common thread between all the businesses that we work with is how willing they are to give back to their customers, to the community as a whole, you know, to put on these events during Fountain Pen Day. Like, which is, it&amp;#039;s totally taken a life of its own in these past several years. Right. It&amp;#039;s just like, it&amp;#039;s, it&amp;#039;s like anticipated and expected that, you know, your favorite retailer or your local pen store or your favorite blog or anything like that is just going to do something for Fountain Pen Day. And I think it&amp;#039;s, it&amp;#039;s pretty cool to see the community come together behind our own day, if you will. I think it&amp;#039;s just a, a really fun, fun thing to look forward to every, uh, every first Friday in November. It&amp;#039;s pretty cool. And, um, is this the first year you&amp;#039;ve made a pen along with Fountain Pen Day? I know you&amp;#039;ve designed other pens and made other pens with people, but were they for Fountain Pen Day? Tell me what you did here.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Kerry Yeager:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Thanks. Thanks. I really have to say I appreciate hearing that because we do, we put a lot into it. And, you know, I work with some really incredible people. I am fortunate and I can assure you and the whole audience out there, I really do appreciate and understand and, you know, being, that&amp;#039;s one thing about getting older. I&amp;#039;ve noticed you kind of learn to appreciate things that you normally would just be like, ah, that&amp;#039;s cool. But I truly do. I really, I work with great people. I get to do a lot. I get to travel a lot. I get to see, I get to hang out with the community all the time. I mean, my job is being out there with the people, you know, going to a pen show. That&amp;#039;s my job. Really? You know, and people will come up to the table and they&amp;#039;d be like, what are you doing? Like, what&amp;#039;s new? What&amp;#039;s going on? And I&amp;#039;m like, well, you&amp;#039;re on your day off visiting the pen show. And I said, I&amp;#039;m working right now, you know? And obviously I say that to our group kind of people and they laugh and they get it. Oh my God, it must be great. And I&amp;#039;m like, you want to know something? Really? I hate to say it, but it is. And, you know, cause I get to play with all the prototypes and all the new stuff that comes in and get to just, you know, the new gochernib comes in and it&amp;#039;s like, everyone&amp;#039;s like, oh, this is cool. And everyone tries it. And then my job, my job is, you know, Joel&amp;#039;s saying, Carrie here, take this home for the weekend and fool around and play with it. And tell me what you think. You know, we, we&amp;#039;ll talk about it on Monday. And I&amp;#039;m like, that&amp;#039;s my, that&amp;#039;s my job. Really? I mean, I can remember blogging and I would just be like, can I just review a Ypsilon please? Oh yes. Yes. And now it&amp;#039;s, you know, you&amp;#039;re just in it all day long. And, but again, like I said, the point to that was just to say, truly, I am thankful. I really understand how good I have it and being able to do what I love every day as much as I do. It just, it&amp;#039;s, it&amp;#039;s really, really, it&amp;#039;s a great feeling.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Kerry Yeager:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Thanks. Thanks. I really have to say I appreciate hearing that because we do, we put a lot into it. And, you know, I work with some really incredible people. I am fortunate and I can assure you and the whole audience out there, I really do appreciate and understand and, you know, being, that&amp;#039;s one thing about getting older. I&amp;#039;ve noticed you kind of learn to appreciate things that you normally would just be like, ah, that&amp;#039;s cool. But I truly do. I really, I work with great people. I get to do a lot. I get to travel a lot. I get to see, I get to hang out with the community all the time. I mean, my job is being out there with the people, you know, going to a pen show. That&amp;#039;s my job. Really? You know, and people will come up to the table and they&amp;#039;d be like, what are you doing? Like, what&amp;#039;s new? What&amp;#039;s going on? And I&amp;#039;m like, well, you&amp;#039;re on your day off visiting the pen show. And I said, I&amp;#039;m working right now, you know? And obviously I say that to our group kind of people and they laugh and they get it. Oh my God, it must be great. And I&amp;#039;m like, you want to know something? Really? I hate to say it, but it is. And, you know, cause I get to play with all the prototypes and all the new stuff that comes in and get to just, you know, the new gochernib comes in and it&amp;#039;s like, everyone&amp;#039;s like, oh, this is cool. And everyone tries it. And then my job, my job is, you know, Joel&amp;#039;s saying, Carrie here, take this home for the weekend and fool around and play with it. And tell me what you think. You know, we, we&amp;#039;ll talk about it on Monday. And I&amp;#039;m like, that&amp;#039;s my, that&amp;#039;s my job. Really? I mean, I can remember blogging and I would just be like, can I just review a Ypsilon please? Oh yes. Yes. And now it&amp;#039;s, you know, you&amp;#039;re just in it all day long. And, but again, like I said, the point to that was just to say, truly, I am thankful. I really understand how good I have it and being able to do what I love every day as much as I do. It just, it&amp;#039;s, it&amp;#039;s really, really, it&amp;#039;s a great feeling.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Brad Dowdy:&#039;&#039;&#039; Well, I&#039;m going to talk to you next about maybe not feeling so great after all the pen show travel. As much as you love it while you&#039;re there, I know how much you travel and I want to dig into that. But first I want to talk about my good friends and your good friends, Carrie Yeager at &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Penn &lt;/del&gt;Chalet. This episode of the pen addict is brought to you by &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Penn &lt;/del&gt;Chalet. They sell authentic, amazing roller balls, fountain pens, ballpoints, mechanical pencils, and so much more. They have all of your favorite brands like Monteverde, Pelican, Lamy, Pilot, Namiki, Sailor and Kaweco, and of course, are an authorized dealer. They have very fast and reliable customer service. They run special discounts twice a month, including closeout specials every two weeks. And they&#039;re always adding new styles of pens every single month. As well as the brands I mentioned earlier, &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Penn &lt;/del&gt;Chalet sells limited edition pens and all the pen accessories you ever need. Like pen carrying cases, pen holders, refills, fountain pen converters, and so much more. They have free shipping on orders over $50 in the US, but they also sell international with very reasonable shipping rates. &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Penn &lt;/del&gt;Chalet has low prices on high quality pens and offer a 100% satisfaction guarantee. So go to PennChalet.com, click on the podcast link at the top of the website, enter the password PENADDICT for this week&#039;s special offer. And to get the code, you need to save 10% on anything at &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Penn &lt;/del&gt;Chalet. So our bit on the podcast carry is I don&#039;t get to look at these offers ahead of time. So I just rolled into the &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Penn &lt;/del&gt;Chalet site. I clicked the radio podcast button, put in the code PENADDICT, and found a crazy deal on the Platinum 3776, which is a fantastic pen. One I brag about all the time. I think it&#039;s a fantastic writer. It&#039;s a crazy good price. And secondly, and I&#039;m pretty sure Ron didn&#039;t know you&#039;re coming on this week. The second item in my list is a free Estabrook 25-ounce stainless steel bottle with any purchase of the Estabrook SD, the Estabrook SD Oversize, or the Estabrook SD SE. I swear to you, this was not planned because Ron wouldn&#039;t have known you were going to be my guest this week. So that&#039;s pretty funny. So y&#039;all should head over to &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Penn &lt;/del&gt;Chalet, check out all the deals, check out their wonderful selection of products this week. And thanks so much to &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Penn &lt;/del&gt;Chalet for sponsoring Relay FM and Penn Addict. Tell me about this water bottle. You gave me this water bottle. Whose idea was this? It&#039;s pretty cool. It&#039;s a fancy Estabrook water bottle.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Brad Dowdy:&#039;&#039;&#039; Well, I&#039;m going to talk to you next about maybe not feeling so great after all the pen show travel. As much as you love it while you&#039;re there, I know how much you travel and I want to dig into that. But first I want to talk about my good friends and your good friends, Carrie Yeager at &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Pen &lt;/ins&gt;Chalet. This episode of the pen addict is brought to you by &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Pen &lt;/ins&gt;Chalet. They sell authentic, amazing roller balls, fountain pens, ballpoints, mechanical pencils, and so much more. They have all of your favorite brands like Monteverde, Pelican, Lamy, Pilot, Namiki, Sailor and Kaweco, and of course, are an authorized dealer. They have very fast and reliable customer service. They run special discounts twice a month, including closeout specials every two weeks. And they&#039;re always adding new styles of pens every single month. As well as the brands I mentioned earlier, &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Pen &lt;/ins&gt;Chalet sells limited edition pens and all the pen accessories you ever need. Like pen carrying cases, pen holders, refills, fountain pen converters, and so much more. They have free shipping on orders over $50 in the US, but they also sell international with very reasonable shipping rates. &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Pen &lt;/ins&gt;Chalet has low prices on high quality pens and offer a 100% satisfaction guarantee. So go to PennChalet.com, click on the podcast link at the top of the website, enter the password PENADDICT for this week&#039;s special offer. And to get the code, you need to save 10% on anything at &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Pen &lt;/ins&gt;Chalet. So our bit on the podcast carry is I don&#039;t get to look at these offers ahead of time. So I just rolled into the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Pen &lt;/ins&gt;Chalet site. I clicked the radio podcast button, put in the code PENADDICT, and found a crazy deal on the Platinum 3776, which is a fantastic pen. One I brag about all the time. I think it&#039;s a fantastic writer. It&#039;s a crazy good price. And secondly, and I&#039;m pretty sure Ron didn&#039;t know you&#039;re coming on this week. The second item in my list is a free Estabrook 25-ounce stainless steel bottle with any purchase of the Estabrook SD, the Estabrook SD Oversize, or the Estabrook SD SE. I swear to you, this was not planned because Ron wouldn&#039;t have known you were going to be my guest this week. So that&#039;s pretty funny. So y&#039;all should head over to &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Pen &lt;/ins&gt;Chalet, check out all the deals, check out their wonderful selection of products this week. And thanks so much to &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Pen &lt;/ins&gt;Chalet for sponsoring Relay FM and Penn Addict. Tell me about this water bottle. You gave me this water bottle. Whose idea was this? It&#039;s pretty cool. It&#039;s a fancy Estabrook water bottle.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Kerry Yeager:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; It is. And it&amp;#039;s a water bottle. It looks like it has stickers. And they&amp;#039;re actually printed on there. So you can wash it and they don&amp;#039;t come off. But we also left a room so you can put your own stickers on there too. You can put more on there. Feel free. Never enough stickers. Never enough stickers. Bottom of the laptop, top of the laptop, you move on to the phone. So that idea was Brian, Brian Holzer, who&amp;#039;s our vice president.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Kerry Yeager:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; It is. And it&amp;#039;s a water bottle. It looks like it has stickers. And they&amp;#039;re actually printed on there. So you can wash it and they don&amp;#039;t come off. But we also left a room so you can put your own stickers on there too. You can put more on there. Feel free. Never enough stickers. Never enough stickers. Bottom of the laptop, top of the laptop, you move on to the phone. So that idea was Brian, Brian Holzer, who&amp;#039;s our vice president.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Brad Dowdy:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; I know, but we get new listeners every week. So we want to, we want to give an update.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Brad Dowdy:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; I know, but we get new listeners every week. So we want to, we want to give an update.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Kerry Yeager:&#039;&#039;&#039; The update. All right. The update is we&#039;ll backtrack really quick and say that eight years ago, if you go to on fountain pen network and search, you&#039;ll see the original conversation. I haven&#039;t looked in a while. I&#039;m pretty sure it&#039;s still there. I hope it&#039;s still there. But there was a group of us that decided that it was national pencil day. I think it was something like that. It was one of those days, ballpoint pen or pencil. And there was no fountain pen day. And I just remember at the time I was like, why is it a fountain pen day? And I was in, I was in the rabbit hole. Like I had just, I had just gotten submerged enough that, that I&#039;m like, I&#039;m in. And, um, you know, enthusiasm is peak to the max. So I&#039;m Googling fountain pen day in quotes to see what came up. And literally nothing came up. The only thing that came up was like some weird, um, song from like Japan or something. And it was just a googly, uh, translation from Google. That was like an error. And it&#039;s a fountain pen day song, but it really wasn&#039;t. That sounds accurate. It was just crazy. So there was nothing. And so I was like, all right, well, I&#039;m going to open the Twitter account. I don&#039;t think we had Instagram then. I think that came later and I&#039;ll do the Facebook. And I started that and we were all chatting as a group and blah, blah, blah. And, uh, Rachel Gley helped me like even set up the Facebook page. She was an admin on it back then just to help me. Cause I didn&#039;t know how to do it. I wanted to do it. And, you know, there was about eight of us and we came up with a date. Um, I didn&#039;t come up the original date. I forgot who did, but they said, we finally came up with the first Friday in November because the first Friday in November is after Halloween. So you&#039;ve cleaned up from that and it&#039;s three weeks before Thanksgiving. So it&#039;s in like this little dead zone and it&#039;s always on a Friday. We thought because Friday you can bring your favorite pen to work and it&#039;s your opportunity to engage those around you with your craziness. And, and when they see you with a fountain pen and they wonder why you&#039;re not just dictating into your phone, you can express to them why writing is good and what makes it great. And challenge them and kind of bring it in. And then on the weekend, you know, spread it out. You can hang out with your friends and have a pen meetup and maybe get, and at that time, maybe get retail stores to engage with you and open the doors and let pen meets happen and stuff. I&#039;ll get to that in a minute. And that was the whole idea. People&#039;s lives got busier and busier as we got closer and closer. Cause this was in like July or August. And, uh, by the time November came around, I contacted like John goals and Van S and found pen hospital, Goulet, obviously. And a couple of others. I know I&#039;m leaving some out. I think &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Penn &lt;/del&gt;Chalet and maybe even, um, Goldspot. Um, but anyways, I got them on board and they were like, okay, you know, and by the time it came around, it w it was, it was me. And I mean, it was me. Yeah. And because people&#039;s lives get busy. It wasn&#039;t anyone&#039;s, it wasn&#039;t like anyone abandoned, you know, these people are still around and, but that&#039;s how it was. So I was in a conundrum of, I really shouldn&#039;t tell anyone that it&#039;s just me with this, you know, running this crazy idea because these are huge companies. These are, these are been around for 50, 60 years and I just kept going with it. And I kept pushing ahead and pushing ahead and pushing ahead. The first year came and went and I just kept updating and kept, you know, emailing different companies out there and retailers. And, um, the second year came around and it grew even more. And by the third year, I think is when we started, um, the Instagram and I had a guy, um, Scott Fuller, who, um, at the time was just starting out, um, was a designer. And I got him to do the logo for like super cheap. And he&#039;s like pretty much untouchable right now. Uh, I think he, he just did the Atlanta heats logo or something crazy like that. Um, so super guy helped me out. And anyways, from there, it just, it just escalated and escalated and escalated until I went on your show. And then I, that was kind of like an open confession of, by the way, when it first started, I didn&#039;t realize that it was, she was just kind of like me. And, but I just, I just took a really personal, you know, that I thought it was super important. It was really good. And even though it was something we, we invented in the community, it was ours and it shouldn&#039;t be anybody else&#039;s. And that&#039;s why I&#039;ve held onto it the way that I have. And I don&#039;t, I don&#039;t take donations. I mean, I do the buttons for shows and I try and do social media and push and push and push because I don&#039;t want anybody to grab it. You know, this isn&#039;t a Valentine&#039;s day thing. This is, this is ours. And you know, it&#039;s just, it&#039;s nobody&#039;s, nobody&#039;s allowed to have it. And everybody knows where it comes from. So if nobody can grab it because, you know, no, nothing&#039;s trademarked everybody, but guess what? If somebody were to try and do something, you would have a mass exodus from your brand simply because I would tell them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Kerry Yeager:&#039;&#039;&#039; The update. All right. The update is we&#039;ll backtrack really quick and say that eight years ago, if you go to on fountain pen network and search, you&#039;ll see the original conversation. I haven&#039;t looked in a while. I&#039;m pretty sure it&#039;s still there. I hope it&#039;s still there. But there was a group of us that decided that it was national pencil day. I think it was something like that. It was one of those days, ballpoint pen or pencil. And there was no fountain pen day. And I just remember at the time I was like, why is it a fountain pen day? And I was in, I was in the rabbit hole. Like I had just, I had just gotten submerged enough that, that I&#039;m like, I&#039;m in. And, um, you know, enthusiasm is peak to the max. So I&#039;m Googling fountain pen day in quotes to see what came up. And literally nothing came up. The only thing that came up was like some weird, um, song from like Japan or something. And it was just a googly, uh, translation from Google. That was like an error. And it&#039;s a fountain pen day song, but it really wasn&#039;t. That sounds accurate. It was just crazy. So there was nothing. And so I was like, all right, well, I&#039;m going to open the Twitter account. I don&#039;t think we had Instagram then. I think that came later and I&#039;ll do the Facebook. And I started that and we were all chatting as a group and blah, blah, blah. And, uh, Rachel Gley helped me like even set up the Facebook page. She was an admin on it back then just to help me. Cause I didn&#039;t know how to do it. I wanted to do it. And, you know, there was about eight of us and we came up with a date. Um, I didn&#039;t come up the original date. I forgot who did, but they said, we finally came up with the first Friday in November because the first Friday in November is after Halloween. So you&#039;ve cleaned up from that and it&#039;s three weeks before Thanksgiving. So it&#039;s in like this little dead zone and it&#039;s always on a Friday. We thought because Friday you can bring your favorite pen to work and it&#039;s your opportunity to engage those around you with your craziness. And, and when they see you with a fountain pen and they wonder why you&#039;re not just dictating into your phone, you can express to them why writing is good and what makes it great. And challenge them and kind of bring it in. And then on the weekend, you know, spread it out. You can hang out with your friends and have a pen meetup and maybe get, and at that time, maybe get retail stores to engage with you and open the doors and let pen meets happen and stuff. I&#039;ll get to that in a minute. And that was the whole idea. People&#039;s lives got busier and busier as we got closer and closer. Cause this was in like July or August. And, uh, by the time November came around, I contacted like John goals and Van S and found pen hospital, Goulet, obviously. And a couple of others. I know I&#039;m leaving some out. I think &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Pen &lt;/ins&gt;Chalet and maybe even, um, Goldspot. Um, but anyways, I got them on board and they were like, okay, you know, and by the time it came around, it w it was, it was me. And I mean, it was me. Yeah. And because people&#039;s lives get busy. It wasn&#039;t anyone&#039;s, it wasn&#039;t like anyone abandoned, you know, these people are still around and, but that&#039;s how it was. So I was in a conundrum of, I really shouldn&#039;t tell anyone that it&#039;s just me with this, you know, running this crazy idea because these are huge companies. These are, these are been around for 50, 60 years and I just kept going with it. And I kept pushing ahead and pushing ahead and pushing ahead. The first year came and went and I just kept updating and kept, you know, emailing different companies out there and retailers. And, um, the second year came around and it grew even more. And by the third year, I think is when we started, um, the Instagram and I had a guy, um, Scott Fuller, who, um, at the time was just starting out, um, was a designer. And I got him to do the logo for like super cheap. And he&#039;s like pretty much untouchable right now. Uh, I think he, he just did the Atlanta heats logo or something crazy like that. Um, so super guy helped me out. And anyways, from there, it just, it just escalated and escalated and escalated until I went on your show. And then I, that was kind of like an open confession of, by the way, when it first started, I didn&#039;t realize that it was, she was just kind of like me. And, but I just, I just took a really personal, you know, that I thought it was super important. It was really good. And even though it was something we, we invented in the community, it was ours and it shouldn&#039;t be anybody else&#039;s. And that&#039;s why I&#039;ve held onto it the way that I have. And I don&#039;t, I don&#039;t take donations. I mean, I do the buttons for shows and I try and do social media and push and push and push because I don&#039;t want anybody to grab it. You know, this isn&#039;t a Valentine&#039;s day thing. This is, this is ours. And you know, it&#039;s just, it&#039;s nobody&#039;s, nobody&#039;s allowed to have it. And everybody knows where it comes from. So if nobody can grab it because, you know, no, nothing&#039;s trademarked everybody, but guess what? If somebody were to try and do something, you would have a mass exodus from your brand simply because I would tell them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Brad Dowdy:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Yeah.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Brad Dowdy:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Yeah.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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