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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Brad Dowdy:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; BDUCav on Twitter says, Why is it hard to find 5x8 paper? I have a portfolio I love using, but it&amp;#039;s too narrow for a 5.875-inch wide pad. Ask TPA. Okay. So my answer that I wrote in the show notes, I said, because the U.S. is self-important.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Brad Dowdy:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; BDUCav on Twitter says, Why is it hard to find 5x8 paper? I have a portfolio I love using, but it&amp;#039;s too narrow for a 5.875-inch wide pad. Ask TPA. Okay. So my answer that I wrote in the show notes, I said, because the U.S. is self-important.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Brad Dowdy:&#039;&#039;&#039; And my meaning is the U.S. does not conform to international paper standards, which I think the entire rest of the world does, except for the United States, and I think it&#039;s one other country. So when you hear us talking about paper sizes like A4, A5, A6, those are going to be more common to find in your portfolio sizings as well, because most of these products are getting made outside of the U.S. So you have a hard time finding it because there&#039;s very few U.S. paper manufacturers that are making good stuff in 5x8. So, you know, look at the stenos from like field notes or dome paper or write notepads. They might do 5x8. When Jeff and I decided to make the steno pad for &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;NOC&lt;/del&gt;, we decided to go with the international standard. So ours are A5. So it&#039;s got that little bit different dimension. So the question I had in my email was basically the same thing, but substitute 5x7. And that&#039;s even more difficult to find than 5x8. 5x8, you can get a lot closer than 5x7. So anyway, it&#039;s because the U.S. thinks they&#039;re right in measurements when they&#039;re actually wrong across the board on their measurement standards. And I&#039;ll get a lot of hate mail for that one. So why don&#039;t you save me, Myke?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Brad Dowdy:&#039;&#039;&#039; And my meaning is the U.S. does not conform to international paper standards, which I think the entire rest of the world does, except for the United States, and I think it&#039;s one other country. So when you hear us talking about paper sizes like A4, A5, A6, those are going to be more common to find in your portfolio sizings as well, because most of these products are getting made outside of the U.S. So you have a hard time finding it because there&#039;s very few U.S. paper manufacturers that are making good stuff in 5x8. So, you know, look at the stenos from like field notes or dome paper or write notepads. They might do 5x8. When Jeff and I decided to make the steno pad for &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Nock&lt;/ins&gt;, we decided to go with the international standard. So ours are A5. So it&#039;s got that little bit different dimension. So the question I had in my email was basically the same thing, but substitute 5x7. And that&#039;s even more difficult to find than 5x8. 5x8, you can get a lot closer than 5x7. So anyway, it&#039;s because the U.S. thinks they&#039;re right in measurements when they&#039;re actually wrong across the board on their measurement standards. And I&#039;ll get a lot of hate mail for that one. So why don&#039;t you save me, Myke?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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Maybe you&amp;#039;re looking to work out how to do income taxes, right? They have courses like that. Trust me. Yep. As well as courses on stuff like Excel or on like Photoshop and stuff like that. They have Illustrator courses. They have marketing courses, business courses, getting things done courses. No matter what it is that you want to learn, maybe software, hardware, or just like fundamentals of thinking in different ways. Like, for example, maybe you want to learn a bit about typography and color. lynda.com have all of these courses. They can help feed the curious mind that you have. You can watch and learn from people that are absolute experts in their field. They&amp;#039;re super passionate about teaching. They love doing what they do, and they just want to help you learn. And you can stream the courses that they create on demand. You can learn at your own schedule, at your own pace. You can learn wherever you want with their Android and iOS devices. And their courses are broken down and structured, so you can watch them from start to finish or consume them in bite-sized pieces and jump in and about as you like. You can create and save playlists of the courses that you want to watch in the order that you want to watch them. And you can very easily browse each course&amp;#039;s transcript to follow along with what&amp;#039;s being said. Or later on, if you want to come back and search for an answer and skip to that point in the video, it&amp;#039;s really easy to do that with their awesome transcript feature. Your lynda.com membership will give you unlimited access to training on hundreds of topics, all for just one flat rate. Whether you&amp;#039;re looking to become an industry expert, you&amp;#039;re passionate about a hobby, or you just want to learn something new, I would really love it if you&amp;#039;d visit lynda.com slash penaddict. That&amp;#039;s L-Y-N-D-A dot com slash penaddict. You&amp;#039;ll be able to get yourself a free 10-day trial by visiting that link, and you&amp;#039;ll also be helping to support this show. Thank you so much, lynda.com, for their continued support of The Pen Addict and Relay FM.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Myke Hurley:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Yeah, this is probably a good idea to take a break. How about that? Okay. This week&amp;#039;s episode of The Pen Addict is brought to you by lynda.com, the online learning platform that houses over 3,000 on-demand video courses that can help you strengthen your business, technology, and creative skills. You can get yourself a free 10-day trial by visiting lynda.com slash penaddict. That&amp;#039;s lynda.com slash penaddict. lynda.com is for people that want to solve problems. It&amp;#039;s for people that want to make things happen for themselves, for curious people, people that want to learn new things. Maybe you&amp;#039;re looking to work out how to do income taxes, right? They have courses like that. Trust me. Yep. As well as courses on stuff like Excel or on like Photoshop and stuff like that. They have Illustrator courses. They have marketing courses, business courses, getting things done courses. No matter what it is that you want to learn, maybe software, hardware, or just like fundamentals of thinking in different ways. Like, for example, maybe you want to learn a bit about typography and color. lynda.com have all of these courses. They can help feed the curious mind that you have. You can watch and learn from people that are absolute experts in their field. They&amp;#039;re super passionate about teaching. They love doing what they do, and they just want to help you learn. And you can stream the courses that they create on demand. You can learn at your own schedule, at your own pace. You can learn wherever you want with their Android and iOS devices. And their courses are broken down and structured, so you can watch them from start to finish or consume them in bite-sized pieces and jump in and about as you like. You can create and save playlists of the courses that you want to watch in the order that you want to watch them. And you can very easily browse each course&amp;#039;s transcript to follow along with what&amp;#039;s being said. Or later on, if you want to come back and search for an answer and skip to that point in the video, it&amp;#039;s really easy to do that with their awesome transcript feature. Your lynda.com membership will give you unlimited access to training on hundreds of topics, all for just one flat rate. 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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Brad Dowdy:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; So I think there, I think there&amp;#039;s a couple that I, I have, there&amp;#039;s one in particular that I forgot about and remembered how much you actually love that pen. So I&amp;#039;ll tell you when you get to it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Brad Dowdy:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; So I think there, I think there&amp;#039;s a couple that I, I have, there&amp;#039;s one in particular that I forgot about and remembered how much you actually love that pen. So I&amp;#039;ll tell you when you get to it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Myke Hurley:&#039;&#039;&#039; Okay. So one of them for me is the, this is actually probably number one is the Sailor Pro gear. Um, so this is, this is actually holds some sentimentality. I bought it in Atlanta. It was my big purchase when I was there for the pen show, but I love this pen. It&#039;s in pen addict, orange, uh, and black and it just delights me. It is, I love this pen. I never would have thought I would love it as much as I did. It&#039;s just so perfect in every single way. Um, if you don&#039;t own a pro gear, you should buy one. Uh, I&#039;ve actually put, so my links in the show notes are basically going to various places on the internet that I&#039;ve found. You can actually get one from &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Penn &lt;/del&gt;Chalet and you can get that 15% off.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Myke Hurley:&#039;&#039;&#039; Okay. So one of them for me is the, this is actually probably number one is the Sailor Pro gear. Um, so this is, this is actually holds some sentimentality. I bought it in Atlanta. It was my big purchase when I was there for the pen show, but I love this pen. It&#039;s in pen addict, orange, uh, and black and it just delights me. It is, I love this pen. I never would have thought I would love it as much as I did. It&#039;s just so perfect in every single way. Um, if you don&#039;t own a pro gear, you should buy one. Uh, I&#039;ve actually put, so my links in the show notes are basically going to various places on the internet that I&#039;ve found. You can actually get one from &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Pen &lt;/ins&gt;Chalet and you can get that 15% off.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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