Editing The Pen Addict 436/transcript (section)

== European Brands ==


'''Brad Dowdy:''' Pelican. And Lamy.

'''Myke Hurley:''' And so. So if that's the case. Right. Like. Go for it. Right. Like. But. But. It's just like. For me. As a huge fan. Of this brand. It's like.

'''Myke Hurley:''' That's not. Even the material. The material. They're using. Doesn't. Look right. To me. It just doesn't. Feel right. It feels like. They're trying to. It's like. It feels like. A greatest hits. Kind of pen. But not their greatest hits. It's somebody else's. And.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' I think you're right. In the. This is the European aesthetic. That they're going for. And I kind of disagree. With. What it is. I think.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' As much as I don't. Plan on owning one of these pens. Nor do I really want one. Or care for one. I'm glad. Sailor does it. I would rather see. This come up. Than. Three months from now. Giving me. I don't know. Orange desk mat. For whatever their next. Sailor. North American edition is.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Right. And what I will say on this. Is like. Similarly. I can appreciate it. From the sense. That like. There will be people. That don't typically. Like Sailor's. Normal aesthetic. Because this is their aesthetic. Which is not mine. But it's somebody else's. And. There is. Good sense. In making. A very good. Version. Of a different type of pen. To meet a different customer. Rather than. As you're saying. Just like. Here's a blue one. Right. Here's a green one. Here's a red one. You know. Like. Right. At a certain point. Just. Here's a. Different color. 1911. Isn't. Going to cut it. Right. Yeah. Where like. So like. We're looking at like. Looking at their entire business today. Through these different lenses. It's like. You've got. Here's a recolor. Here's a. Like a. A very. Cool. Limited edition range. Right. In the middle. And now this is like. Here's a brand new pen. Oh. By the way. It doesn't look like. Anything else we make. Right. And we're putting our best nib in it. It's like. Okay. Right. Like. I can. You know. As we're going along a sliding scale. Here. It's like. I can really respect. This product. And what it's probably attempting to do for them. I just. Am pretty confident. It's not one for me.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. I think. I mean. That's fair. Like we say all the time. Like. It doesn't mean. If it's. If it's for me. Whether it's good or bad. I think the spend. Is going to be a success. In the Japanese market. Whether that translates. More than that. I don't know. I mean.

'''Myke Hurley:''' You've got to be a fan. They're not using gold furniture. It's all. Yeah.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' It looks like. Like. I'm not a fan of the price. Right. Like. That's. Super expensive. Like. I already complained about the king of pen. Pro gear price. Like. This is a different level. Here's the thing though.

'''Myke Hurley:''' I'm not justifying this price. But like. Something that I can't. Conceive of it. Is how big. This. This pen. I think. Is very big. It's got to be. Because it makes the king of pen nib. Look small.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Images. So. I would have not guessed. This was a king of pen nib. No. Which goes to your point.

'''Myke Hurley:''' So like. I'm looking at one. At my king of pen here. And like. My king of pen pro gear. The nib looks massive. In this image. If it's scale correctly. I mean. This is a. Big pen. Yeah. Again. I don't really have much. To say about that. Because. I can't conceive of it. Until I actually have it. But. It's interesting.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. So I'll be anxious. To get some. First hand reports. From CY and Jacob. If they ever get one of these. In their hands. Because I think. It's going to be a long time. Before we get to even try one. Or see one in person. Just not having any pen shows. And not having any. Retailers. You know. That really. Deal on this market. To. You know. Get one to check out from. So. That brings us to the last page. Which. And the last sailor topic. For today. Maybe. Which. Is. The epitome. Of the king of pen. This is what I think of. When I see king of pen. Right. This. Yeah. It's this. This body shape. This traditional. Torpedo body shape. And. This has the. Ishime finish. Which is like the. Like the pebbled. Finish. Which is a beautiful finish. On the barrel of the pens. You know. They're. They're going to be. More in the fifteen hundred. Sixteen hundred dollar range. But that's. That's the old. Normal. For. What the. Classic. Arushi. King of pens. Were going for. Like. This is. Their main line. King of pen. Like. The pro gear. Is. The. The. Entry level. King of pen. If you will. Which is. You know. Why I latched on to it. Because it was. Half the price. Or less. Of. What the traditional. King of pens were. This is stunning. I mean. These are beautiful. I'll. Probably never own. One of these. But. Like. When I think of. King of pen. This is what I think about.

'''Myke Hurley:''' It is. I. I don't have one of these. I think. Sometime in the future. I would like. King of pen. That looks like this. Because. It. It really. Is very. You know. I look at this. And it's like. That feels like. The epitome. Of Japanese pen design. Is like. That kind of. Shape and style. Right. Yeah. Because it is. Nakaya like. Yeah. You know.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' It's. It's simple. Yet. Extremely complex.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' And again. To the nib point. This is the same size nib. As on the previous page. And we'll have the link in the show notes. So y'all can pull this up. While we're discussing them. This looks like it fits this pen. Right. You can tell. That's a big nib. On this pen. On the other page. It's like. Yes. Exactly. Is this a. Yeah. So. Anyway. This is. Like. I don't have much to say about this. Because this is like. Perfect. Like. This is. This is what I think. And. Maybe. I have to get out of. Traditional sailor thinking. Right. They're always going to have. Traditional sailor. Products. But sailor. You know. The reason why we like them so much. Is they are willing to do. You know. Weird. And crazy things. Where. A lot of their competition. Is. Not willing to. You know. Just. You know. Throw things on the wall. And see what sticks. You know. I don't know whether that's good or bad. For either. For any companies. You know. What. Finding their way. But. It certainly gives us a lot to talk about. As we've just spent. An enordinate amount of time. Talking about sailor. Which we do frequently. It's because. They give us things to talk about. And I find. Their business. To be very interesting. Because. It's actually getting. I thought we were going to get to a point. Where it was less confusing. Myke. Their business. And I think it's getting more confusing. Right now.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Um. It's just worth noting. This pen is like. $1600. The one that we're just talking about here. So like.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. Wow. That's the. That's the old normal. Yeah. Which is why I never owned. A king of pen before. Is because even like. The base. Arushi ones. Not with the. Ishime finish. Were. You know. 12 to 1500. 100.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' So like. That doesn't. Like. That doesn't surprise me at all. That's correct. In my book. Hmm.

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