Editing The Pen Addict 410/transcript (section)

== Neon Ink Purchase Discussion ==


'''Myke Hurley:''' That's why I said when I was, I would have, if there was a pack of eight, I would have just clicked the button. Right. But if I got to pick, I was not going to pick yellow.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' But then it was like, all right, I don't know what ones I want really. And I need to, I feel like I really need to kind of try them to understand what ones I like, if that makes sense. And Adina was super into them as well. So I figured, I'm just going to buy seven of them. If I'm going to buy four of them, I might as well buy seven of them at $10 each. Right. I was just like, all right, I'm just going to get all of them. And, you know, as I said, I don't really have a, we don't really have a lot of ink. Right. So adding this amount is not going to like be, it's going to significantly increase our overall stock, but not make it to a point where it's become unmanageable because we have another seven ink bottles, you know? So, yeah, I just figured why not go for it, see what ones I like. And it's not just me making the decisions, you know, like Adina wants some too. So it's like, well, let me just get quote unquote all of them, which is what I thought I was getting and see what ones are the best for us.

'''Myke Hurley:''' That's cool. I am very interested to see what you think about these things because there's no way that I would have thought you would, I wouldn't think you would dislike them, but it'd usually be like, eh, not for me kind of thing because they're very different in how they go look on the page, right? It's a, it's a very saturated type of ink. You are going to have to, I will, I will set a reminder like every like third episode or so I'll say, Hey, did you clean out this pen? Cause you're going to have to manage these a little bit. They're not going to mess up your pens, but they will not write as well if they're not used for like two or three weeks at a time.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' I'm not going to use all of them and I'm probably just going to pick my favorite one or two and put them in a pen that that's my plan.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. Yeah. So like if you leave them in like a translucent barrel pen, like you can see almost like a little film, like when you clean it out, like if you put purple in clear, right, you'll see like a little purple ring and you just have to get in there. It comes right off, but you have to clean it a little bit more. And I know that's not your thing. And I'm saying that in the, in the nicest way possible with these inks, you need to pay attention a little bit more with them.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Well, we'll say they're on the way. Um, so hopefully I'll have them within the next couple of weeks and I'll be able to tell you exactly what I think about all the ones that I purchased.

'''Myke Hurley:''' I'm very interested because you use a lot of like medium and broad nibs, like you were just saying. And I think they're going to work really well, but it's, I think, are you going to, are you going to like them? And I, I kind of think you might, like, I can see you like latching onto like this purple or something as like, Oh, look at my notes in this wicked purple. That's pretty cool. I think I have high hopes that you're going to like them and not be disappointed.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' All right. So next up the Twisby Eco Transparent. So this on Instagram looks very appley. This ad to me, it's like a very iPod nano. Uh, it's five new Twisby Ecos with clear. Okay. It's five Twisby Ecos. It's possibly some of them new, uh, with clear barrels and they like the demonstrator barrels and they have clear caps and clear like piston. What is that called? The twisting part? The piston?

'''Myke Hurley:''' The, the, the blind cap, the twist knob. Yeah.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. But, uh, but they're all in, they're all in colors, rainbow white colors. Yeah.

'''Myke Hurley:''' So these are not new.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Okay.

'''Myke Hurley:''' They, the way this picture is shot makes you think, wow, they're making these with gun metal trim, but it's the lighting. I think this is just a fancy shot because all of these already exist. They're all already awesome. I was curious why you put this in the show notes. Huh? Um, because I had to take a second, I had to take a second look. I was like, why is the thing in the thing? And they're interesting in the fact that this is the core lineup of what Twisby is done with the eco, right? So these are the five core colors, but they have so many special edition colors. Like there's other pink ones and corally ones and all kinds of different things out there. They're solid color ones, which would you believe? I'm glad you put this in here because I wanted to talk about as Mr. Translucency and transparency over here. I like the Twisby ecos with the solid caps better.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. Well, they've got the whole demonstrator going on in the middle anyway. So like it's, you know, the thing that you care about the most, the thing I care about the most, at least when it comes to, um, a pen with any kind of translucency is the body of the pen being translucent. So I see the ink inside.

'''Myke Hurley:''' So these are one of my favorite just pens period. Even though these are not new, they might be new to somebody, right? Someone's just listening to this show for the first time. And this is the pen that you might want to consider if you're going to make your first foray into fountain pens. Now that I see this picture and we're talking about it, I want gunmetal hardware on these pens instead of the chrome that they use. That would be dope.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' I apologize for bringing something old to the show today.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Hey, we, we use these pens all the time. We talk about this pen all the time. And it gives me an opportunity to say that shockingly enough, I prefer the solid colors in the eco over the transparent ones, which is not something I would normally say. Shocking revelations on today's episode. So you might not be the only one bringing something old to the show today, Myke. I'm bringing up a paper sizes link that someone sent to me saying, did you know that there were at one time a British imperial cut paper size? We talk about, you know, how I prefer paper sizes. Like I would prefer like consistent sizes, like in the A series, you know, A zero through whatever, nine, however tiny they can make it. So I prefer standards in my paper sizes. And someone sent this thing said, Hey, did you know there were British imperial paper sizes? And I said, no, I didn't. So I pulled up this link, Myke. Did you know that the three main sizes of the British cut, right? Cut writing paper were named Albert Duchess and Duke.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' No, I definitely didn't know that.

'''Myke Hurley:''' This is new to you because I'm guessing this does not exist, right? This is, this is not something like I'm reading the, the, the intro. It says before metric, metrication, that's a hard word for the metric system in the UK. The UK used British imperial paper sizes, most of which were quickly superseded by the ISO 216 A series paper sizes, which is what I'm referring to when I talk about the A series paper sizes. Like that's a standard, that's an international standard paper size. But the British had Albert, which was a four inch by six inch paper size Duchess, which was four and a half by six and Duke, which was five and a half by seven. I am proposing we bring these sizes back, Myke. I am in to Albert Duchess and Duke. What do you say?

'''Brad Dowdy:''' I mean, I'm completely on board. Whilst I enjoy the metric system, maybe we just need to rename the metric system sizes to Albert Duchess and Duke, right? Like A4, A3 and A5. We can just, we can just give them new names.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Will you bring this up to the queen for me? Yeah. I mean, that's that we need her approval. Then we're going to go back to Albert Duchess and Duke for our standard. So Duke is like the A5 size, five by five by seven. That's the biggest of the three. And Duchess and Albert are smaller.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' But if Duke is the biggest, it would be A3 and not A5.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Right. But I'm saying five by five by seven is A5-ish sizes, right?

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Ah, okay. All right. But then.

'''Myke Hurley:''' A5 is like 5.8 by 8.3.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' So what would be a 4.0 by 6.0? Like a field notes? Yeah, that's like, that's bigger.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Field notes is three and a half by five and a half. So that's your field note size. So that's like your A6. And then Duchess is just a weird dimension in between.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Right. But you see, this is what I'm saying, right? Like, I don't think we should, I think we should just pick three sizes, keep them in their current sizes and just rename them. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. So yes, we need to steal. A6 becomes Albert. Albert. A5 becomes Duchess and A4 becomes Duke. Okay. Sure.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. I'm with this. Yeah. Except that won't work. But yeah, I love this though. Isn't that cool? Isn't that a neat bit of history? So thank you for whoever sent that to me in the chat. And then there's bigger, it's funny, those are the three smallest sizes in this list. Then you get into a full scap quarto, full scap folio, small post octavo. Like, and there are all these, all the bigger sizes, all up to eight by 10, which is large post quarto. Those aren't as fun as Albert, Duchess, and Duke. What were they thinking? Did they run out of, they couldn't, they shouldn't have run out of names that fast, right?

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. I mean, I feel like there's enough.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Lord, lady, like we could have had lots more things here.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Then we have some really wild ones. You could have like Baron, Marquis, you know, we could go for it, you know?

'''Myke Hurley:''' So yeah, we'll work on the change.org petition to the International Paper Standards Board to change these sizes into Albert, Duchess, and Deuce. So I will get on that this week, okay?