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== New Pen Releases == '''Brad Dowdy:''' All right. So we had three new releases that I wanted to talk about. We've covered the first one, which was the Montegrappa Lord of the Rings, two thumbs up. We've covered the Visconti Ayo Pena. No thumbs up. Fountain Pen, no thumbs up. And now we're going to hit the Platinum 3776 Carnelian, which I honestly think, not to just spoil everything, is, you know, maybe one thumb up. Like there's, this is like kind of right in the middle of those things. I have a lot of questions and concerns and wonderings about this pen. So what do you think about this pen and the reason for it existing? '''Myke Hurley:''' Pen, boring. '''Myke Hurley:''' It's a red demonstrator 3776. It looks like it maybe has a little sparkle in it, but it's hard to see from the images, but it's, you know, it's there, but it hasn't got, I like the 3776s that had textures on the body because that was different, right? Like the nice line, the nice line. It is a US exclusive, which is interesting. '''Myke Hurley:''' Because is that normal? '''Brad Dowdy:''' No, this is a new thing. '''Myke Hurley:''' So that is interesting to me is like, are we setting a precedent here for more variation in this line? Me and Nadine were just talking about the difference between sailor and platinum over dinner yesterday, because that's who we are now. And we were, we were talking about kind of the differences. And I was saying, you know, cause she listened to the episode where we were talking about that. We spoke about it a bit. And like the thing about sailor is there's so many pens. You can really find something what you, that you're, that you're interested in. You can really find something that you like because there's so many different styles. But the problem with this one and with platinum in general is they don't really do enough of that. And that you, that what they have in their more reasonably priced line, which is 3776 a lot of the time is like, you can maybe find one that you like more than others, but the ability to find one that really speaks to you. Like you can, if you go hunting for pro gears, it's a very different, it's a very different experience. But if they're starting to do country exclusive colors, that could start to increase the creativity would be the hope. '''Brad Dowdy:''' I am a little bit surprised that this is actually going to be a no thumbs up from both of us. '''Brad Dowdy:''' I agree with pretty much everything you said. In general, this is not a special pin. And when you're going to use this price point of $240, as opposed to their standard price point, which is what, like 160 for the 3776, something like that. Let me just double check real quick. Yeah. Like 160, 170. Um, it better be special. And this one's not, this one, it's just not, I think it's a mistake. Even though on the surface, it's a pretty pin. Like it's a pin I would like to use. Myke, it's a pin I already have in the platinum shungyo. And it's, the shungyo is better, right? It's red with the etchings on it, right? This has some barrel sparkles, which they must've had a panic attack when Platinum, when Pelican released the star Ruby, because it's kind of the same idea, the same pin. '''Myke Hurley:''' Miles better and cheaper. '''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. And not as, I don't think it's as high a percentage increase in price for the limited edition of that pin versus the standard model. And I think that's where the mistake comes in. This should be a standard lineup, 3776. But I feel like this is a money grab to me is what this looks like to platinum. I don't think it's special enough to justify the upgraded price point, which I've paid the upgraded price point for several of these pens. I don't think this is one of them. I think the color looks great. It probably looks really good in person, but you're asking me to pay an upgraded price for a pretty much standard offering and just telling me that, Hey, it's a U S exclusive and like, it's a new color, even though it's, I guess it is. I mean, technically. Yeah. So I, I'm not as thrilled. I'm not thrilled with what platinum has done here, but we'll see. We'll see what happens after this. Um, it'll do well. Like there's no doubt that it's a great pin and it's great looking. I just think the story it's trying to tell is not adding up to me in this particular instance. So we'll see. Um, you mentioned that Visconti was drinking their own Kool-Aid a little bit earlier. And I think that's a case of platinum right here, right now with the carnelian. So we'll see what happens. '''Brad Dowdy:''' So, yeah, um, I am anxious to see it in person. I bet it looks really good. Um, I just don't have any interest in it and I'm more interested in, in a year or two from now to see what they can do to make that price point more interesting than their base level pens. So that's kind of where I'm at with that. Oh boy. I, this was a good week for new products. Um, we're normally not like the always new product show. I mean, I guess we do a lot of it. It's kind of what we talk about the new hot stuff, but there were some good things to discuss. And I have a couple other things I want to just drop in here, little tidbits, not at the level of these last three pens that we talked, but I did a stream on Tuesday on Twitch, which, um, that's been going really good. Y'all should, y'all should come hang out on the stream on Tuesdays and Thursdays, 10 a.m. Eastern, uh, twitch.tv slash pen addict hashtag plug. Um, I, yeah, the audience is, is growing ever so slightly and I'm really enjoying and appreciating everyone show up. So yesterday I did an unboxing. I got it, uh, my October goods from jet pens. And I just, I basically shop from a list before I see the stuff online, like an email list. And so some of the things I get, I don't really know what I'm getting. So I tried this ink called Kala nostalgia abstraction ink. So in general, like with all the inks out there, like that, just seeing that name, that's like a turnoff. I was like, what is this? What are you doing here? It's like, okay, like I'll try one, you know, and you know, just for research purposes. Right. Um, so I look at the ink colors, I do a search and I was like, man, all these ink, these colors are kind of dull and boring. There's not much to them. So I went with the one called spring rain, which is kind of a, it's a gray, um, as maybe spring. That's the color of spring rain, Myke. I don't know. You can confirm or deny that rumor. Um, yeah, wouldn't know. Um, and then I opened it up and threw it on the page. I, I, at the time I just had like a, my pocket knife. So I dipped my knife in there and spread it on the page. I was like, oh, this is a really great gray. It's like a graphite, nice gray. Gray inks are hard to get right. So I was like, oh, this is really pretty. And then the chat mentioned that, Hey, these inks are pigmented, which means it should be waterproof. And I was like, oh really? So I had my bottle of water there and I reached in, I stuck my hands in my water bottle and like splashed ink onto this page where I'd written this ink. And it didn't budge. Like there was no smearing, no bleeding, no nothing. So long story short, I didn't realize I was ordering a pigmented ink. And as it turns out, it does its job very, very well, which was a pleasant surprise to me, right? Those are the things that surprised me. And I appreciate out of products when I was expecting one thing, but you know, maybe because I didn't fully read the product description and it turns out to be this really, really good at its job, right? So you're not going to look at these inks and go, boy, look at these colors. I need all of them. But if you're looking for a pigmented ink and you know, something that has waterproofness, this is going to be like a pretty cool ink for that. And you'll probably hear me recommending it a bunch. As soon as I get to test more now, I'm wishing I would have ordered like one or two more colors just to play around with. But I was surprised because I normally don't care whether an ink's waterproof or not. It's just not one of those things I have to have. But when I saw how this one worked, I was thoroughly impressed. So more testing to be done. See how it handles pins and nibs and things like that. But I like being surprised by products. And this was one of them. '''Brad Dowdy:''' The second one is kind of my Alice in Wonderland, but at a very different price point. I have talked many times about the Field Notes Wilco set of memo books. And I said, you know, if I ever have the chance to get one, I'll get one, but I'm really, I want them badly, but I have too many notebooks. You know, when this was at the time when the National Parks Edition came out. And I was just like, that was overload. I didn't need to buy six more. Well, turns out they're going out to retailers and JetPens had them. So of course I got them now. And I think I'm just going to make a little project out of these. So we'll have more on that later when I'm kind of discussing it and figuring out what I'm going to do with it. But it's one of those products where it's like, I tried not to buy, not to buy, not to buy. And then I had an easy opportunity to get them without necessarily paying for them as part of my JetSpin sponsorship on the blog. And I was like, yeah, I think I'll have those now. Thank you. So I, I now own the field code field notes, Wilco box set, which I love. And I will be using, I will not be stashing this box, like for safekeeping or something silly like that. Like I'm going to use these, these notebooks or else I would not have bought them. '''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. These are, these are a set for you, I think. '''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. It's a cool project. It's something that like checks all my boxes. Right. So it's kind of a thing, but it's like, I knew at the time that they came out, I just could, I could not justify owning them. Right. And now that, well, I didn't have to pay for this set necessarily, but I'm not going to, I'm still not going to take it if I'm not going to use it. Right. Right. I still have to commit to using it no matter what. So I have an idea for a project for the entire set of books. So we'll, we'll see how that plays out. '''Myke Hurley:''' Should we do some hashtag ask TPA for the end of the show? '''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah, we'll wrap it up. We got a bunch of email versions of ask TPA for this episode. So yeah, let's do that. '''Myke Hurley:''' First one comes from Richard. I'm hoping submitting this ask TPA in the right place. You sure did Richard. Cause it's on the show. I absolutely love the podcast and your blog and Brad, you helped me journey deeper into my burgeoning fountain pen addiction than I ever thought. I have just picked up a pilot metropolitan with a CM nib. What is a CM nib? '''Brad Dowdy:''' It's, it's their stub. They pilot does a 0.9 millimeter stub and they call it, I think it's, dude, it might be cursive medium. I don't know the exact terminology for their CM, but I believe it's a 0.9 stub, like a cursive italic type of nib. '''Myke Hurley:''' Uh, it's the blue one filled with noodlers. Navajo blue. My world has changed immeasurably for the better. My question is about Onoto fountain pens. I'd never heard of them, but my dad introduced me after hearing about this Spitfire pen made from salvaged metal from a real world war two fighter. That's kind of cool. I'll put it in the show notes. The story and design of this pen fits all of the criteria of a grail pen for me with the price to match. How much is it? Okay. It's like 1700 pounds. It's expensive. It's an expensive pen. Okay. Uh, but I have heard so little about Onoto pens, and I can't see a way to try one before I order from them. As it's such a big purchase, I'm wondering if you or any of the pen addict community have experience with modern Onotos. It's O-N-O-T-O-S, and can share their feedback with me. Thank you for producing such great content and welcoming so many of us into this awesome hobby. This is a, not only a good specific question, but a broader question about buying pens from companies you've never heard of before for large amounts of money. '''Brad Dowdy:''' It's totally a, totally a brilliant question, '''Myke Hurley:''' right? Let me say as well, this is a freaking awesome pen. It looks amazing. Amazing. And the story, genius. These are awesome. '''Brad Dowdy:''' Wow. So, let's, let's break down this question here. So, Richard is new, and he's got the Pilot Metro, and he's loving it so far. And we're just gonna, I'm gonna talk about Onoto in depth, but we're going from, you know, the 20 euro pen, and, or pound pen, and to a 1600 pound pen. You know, in conversation saying, boy, you know, what do you think about this? And I think, just in general, just, like, slow, go, go a little slow, slow that down a little bit, just because, even though this might be the grail pen, and it might, you know, not be available, I think that's, that's a jump I'm not comfortable with, for many reasons. That said, okay, so that's one little bit of the conversation. The question about Onoto in general, they are a great pen company, so there's no problem with Onoto whatsoever. I think they're fantastic. I do not own one. It is on my very short list of pens to buy. The reason why I haven't bought one is because of the price point is a little bit off for me in, like, their, their, what, let's call it their entry-level gold nib fountain pen. And it's around 400-ish dollars. I'm not looking at this, so don't totally quote me on this, but let's just go with that. And the way those pens are built, they're stunning looking. They're really cool, classic, like acrylic. They have, like, this crosshatch pattern on some of them. Like, there's one of them that's orange. Of course, it speaks to me, but even, like, the black ones are really good, and they can have silver trim. And they're really pretty. They're made in the UK. And I just find them a stunning, stunning pen. They're really good quality. They're good craftsmanship. But what I can't, couldn't get past with, like, the base level gold nib pen was they're very light. And if I'm going to spend X amount of dollars, like, there's a feeling of substantialness I want. Yeah. When the pen is in my hand. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, some pens are able to mitigate that by doing things like adding a brass sleeve in the barrel. Like, this is not a piston-filling pen, the Notos I'm talking about. They now have a piston filler, but that's a different story. Um, there has to be, it basically felt like a $400 Pilot Prera. And, I wasn't comfortable with spending my money and having that thought in my head. Despite the fact that it's good looking, it's well made, it's a respected company, it's a nice, there's like nothing wrong with any of it. I just felt they were a little overpriced for what they were. that doesn't necessarily mean that matriculates through their entire product line. But when you look at something like the Spitfire, it's probably, it's probably more of an accurately priced pen at that price than their $400 pen because of, you know, what this is and the, the type of craftsmanship and the limitedness and the story of it is, it's still a lot of money. It's a lot of money. I'd be uncomfortable like going from a Pilot Metropolitan to a $1,700 a Noto without having at least to, a chance to try other like expensive fountain pens out. This is an all metal barrel. The Metropolitan's, you know, a brass barrel. It's got some weight to it but I don't know what this feels like. You know, there could be, I don't know what the balance is like. Like, I would have a hard time buying this pen sight unseen without at least holding it in my hand to see what the, the writing feel is like. That's a big, I think this is too much of a risk for Richard to take in my opinion. But, uh, that's, that's my roundabout Onodo conversation but I just, it's a really good question and there's no perfect answer but that's kind of my feelings on it. '''Myke Hurley:''' I mean, I, I have no experience with this pen brand but from saying what you've said I can't disagree with you. '''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. Like, I will, I, like, probably next year I'll probably break down and buy an Onodo once I find one that's like for me and I feel good about the price. So, like, they just, um, our friend Anthony at UK Fountain Pens blogger, he just, he gets a lot of Onodos to review and they just recently introduced a piston filling option for their pens but they're charging two, it's a $250 upgrade for piston filling. Like, their pricing is, is a little, you know, it's a little plus for me. Like, it just doesn't, it's not quite adding up in my mental math of what I expect to pay for a pen that feels, feels the way that it does. So, we'll see. But they're, they're a really good company. Like, people who buy Onodos love their Onodos. And like, I wouldn't turn anyone off from buying an Onodo. They're a good quality brand. '''Myke Hurley:''' Hmm. '''Brad Dowdy:''' Speaking of good quality brands, Myke. '''Myke Hurley:''' Love it. You're so cool. Look at you with the perfect segues. 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It includes a weighted ergonomic handle for a firm grip, five blade razor with a lubricating strip and trimmer blade for close shaves, rich lathering shave jar with aloe to keep your skin hydrated and a travel blade cover to keep your razor dry and easy to use on the go. Go to harrys.com slash penaddict right now to start shaving better today. Our thanks to Harry's for their support of this show and Relay FM. '''Brad Dowdy:''' Alright, you want me to read this next one? Go for it. This is from Maxwell. Maxwell, Hi, I was wondering if you could recommend a good pocket journal for me. I'm an aspiring author and I like to handwrite my first drafts in tiny notebooks and journals with fine nib platinum and pilot fountain pens. I have a couple of small notebooks and journals that I don't know the brand of but have worked fine with my fountain pens. The problem is that I've written in all of them and I'm starting a new project. Journals with pretty covers and magnet closures appeal to me. My local Barnes & Noble used to have a rotating display of them when I was in high school four years ago but when I had the money to buy some they no longer had them. This past January after listening to the Pen Addict podcast for half a year I got a Leuchtturm 1917 bullet journal and fell in love with the dot grid. So I'd probably prefer a plain looking dot grid journal to a pretty looking line journal. My handwriting is fairly small and light so I've not had any issue using fountain pens in any notebook or journal except for my one attempt at using one in a field notes. Suck it Myke. That wasn't really written in there but I put that in there. I don't know what it's like because nothing '''Myke Hurley:''' doesn't matter to me. '''Brad Dowdy:''' So the paper doesn't really matter to me. I have a large collection of those pretty covered notebooks they sell at back to school time that I occasionally use and haven't had any bleed using fountain pens in them except when I accidentally shook my pen too hard and it spit a bunch of ink on my page. Sorry if this was really rambly. It was not. It is exactly 100% up our alley here at the Pen Addict podcast and all I can think about in when you're looking for a pocket notebook that you're going to use your fountain pens in is I'm going to grab a Write Notepads book. I love those books. They handle fountain pens well. You can get them in dot grid and they're very sturdy. Like if you're an aspiring author and you're writing a lot they're very durable. They're going to handle you know back pockets or bags or backpacks or purses or anything like that and they're going to hold up well. '''Brad Dowdy:''' Leuchterm if you do like that they make the hardcover they don't make a softcover small book but they make the hardcover small books like three and a half by five and a half. I tend not to use those. They tend to be too thick to write well with that hardcover but they do make a little bit larger softcover one. It's not really a pocket size notebook but it's closer to an A5 and they make some A6 size softcover pocket notebooks that you can get not pocket notebooks excuse me but just softcover dot grid notebooks that will at least fit in like in a bag or a backpack and they're not really really huge but if you're looking for like a strictly field note style pocket notebook to use with fountain pens I always choose write notepads. '''Myke Hurley:''' This next question comes from Mariska who says I must admit I used to follow the show last year but I unfollowed because I found most of the podcast discussion way over my head maybe my experience was not advanced enough to benefit from the pen addict but then enter Adina who was a fountain pen newbie but no more and suddenly I found the podcast relevant again so Mariska thanks Adina because the pen show appearances were super useful Mariska is now resubscribed to the show so hello and a follower of Instagram which is lovely Mariska goes on with a question but thank you for that it's very nice I like to hear that very much '''Brad Dowdy:''' yes that's great I love it '''Myke Hurley:''' so Mariska says I own mostly steel nibs like the Pilot Capless Steel Nib and Kakuno Lamy Safari Cafe Copaccio and would like to branch out to gold nib fountain pens in particular I was researching the very same Sailor fountain pen that Adina bought the White Rose Gold Pro Gear as my net like is this going to be discontinued I don't know if it was ever if it was ever a standard line I don't know honestly it's difficult to tell a sailor sometimes then Adina purchased the Platinum Celluloid and preferred that one over the sailor then again on the most recent episode we both talked about how much you prefer Platinum nibs to sailor nibs my first question what was exactly the problem of Adina's sailor nib that needs reworking and could it perhaps be because of feedback would you both still steer me away from the sailor towards platinum if so why I like to write small Japanese fine medium nibs not as thin as Brad's maybe I enjoy both smooth nibs and nibs of feedback like in the Kovey Kopukio so let me just address this quickly like I don't actually think there was anything wrong particularly with Adina's nib it was tuned to somebody else's handwriting before she received it it had some work done on it '''Brad Dowdy:''' yeah there was no technical or physical problem with the nib yeah and also necessarily plus it was fine '''Myke Hurley:''' yeah exactly and again she's not really a fine nib person so like there was just it just wasn't the right nib for her and I also just wanted to maybe restate like I really love platinum nibs I also really love sailor nibs I don't think platinum nibs are always better than sailor nibs and I think they're pretty on par most of the time but if you sometimes a very good platinum nib can be better than a very good sailor nib I wouldn't steer you away from a particular pen like a particular sailor because platinums exist if you like a sailor then go for it because you will have a great experience but just be aware that like you probably want to start off with a stock nib and that was not what we were able to do because we couldn't find that pen anywhere second question how do you clean piston filled fountain pens like Montblanc's I can't seem to get them clean enough for storage yet many warn me to clean it thoroughly to keep the piston in perfect working condition '''Brad Dowdy:''' so I'll take the second part first because it's pretty easy you just have to work through it you just have to continually fill and expel water from the piston filler until it runs clear you know sometimes you fill it halfway up and shake it vigorously and then expel the water bring it suck the water back up in again and just go I mean it might take you 20 times honestly to get it completely clean now if you're using an older pin you may want to fill it with water inside the piston and let it soak for a little bit just in case something has crudded up in there like you're saying if the mop block was from the 70s or 80s you know it's okay to fill that piston with water let it sit overnight and then expel it the next day and see if it runs clear so you're just wanting it to run clear and it's not it's going to take more than like three or four times it might take 10 or 15 or sometimes more so you just have to stick with it some pins I'm not totally familiar with Montblanc and their nib how they can if they can come out easily some are easier to clean like pelicans where you can remove the nib unit and it's easier to clean get more water flushed up in there but it's just a matter of continually filling the piston with water until it runs clean and let it soak overnight if you have to on the first question about platinum versus sailor I agree with pretty much everything Myke said it's not a like or dislike of either it's just it's basically you know the answer to that question was if those were your only two choices in the world what would you pick kind of thing it's like one's you know a 9 and one's a 9.1 out of 10 right they're both like virtually identical they do just feel different so some people do have a preference on feel platinums have more feedback to me than sailor nibs sailor nibs are firmer than platinum nibs so it depends on how you write what you enjoy I clearly enjoy them both I think sailor is one of the few medium nibs that I enjoy writing with because it's kind of the right size from a stock perspective but I do prefer kind of the finer platinums more than the finer sailors it tends to be but you know that's really picking nits at this point they're both excellent '''Myke Hurley:''' and next question I think final question for this episode comes from Chris I have a strange question for you we'll find out about that Chris we'll find out about that I'm planning on setting off on a several years long project I want to hand write my own bible but I need help I am wondering what paper and ink I should use I would like a paper which I can write on both sides of the page it will allow time for the drink ink to dry before I flip it I would also like this paper not to be too thick as the bible has many words in it and I don't want a coffee table book but one which I theoretically carry around with me I'm thinking it should be either A4 or A5 size but will need to make some practice pages before I decide for good I would like to get it professionally bound after it's completed so perhaps an A4 would give them extra room to work with second question what ink should I use I would like an ink with archival properties it should be black or blue black or brown black and since this project will take a few years or longer to complete perhaps an ink that will be around for long unless you think I should probably buy two or three bottles when I start anyway I know this isn't your normal wheelhouse but perhaps you could help me get started because I don't know where to begin '''Brad Dowdy:''' yeah it's kind of our wheelhouse right I feel like these are the questions you would ask and we've had a similar question multiple times before and I think the paper answer just the paper answer is pretty clear right I mean Tomoe River paper is practically bible thickness paper for what people traditionally think of a bible thickness paper '''Myke Hurley:''' with quality and all that nonsense right like '''Brad Dowdy:''' yeah it's going to handle your fountain pens you can write on both sides even though there will be some ghosting as in you'll be able to see the letters like it won't bleed through it won't feather but you're going to be able to see the back page of the handwriting just because of the thinness of the paper the real question is what notebook would this be and you can get loose sheets of Tomoe River if you want to go that route in a 5 or a 4 size if you wanted loose sheets but it doesn't it's in binding and afterwards makes me sound makes me think loose sheets are a good option but you also want to carry it around you should do which I think loose sheets makes it harder '''Myke Hurley:''' well I think loose sheets in some kind of folder or binder because what if you don't have enough pages in a notebook '''Brad Dowdy:''' yeah that's the kicker right we're never going to get no matter the size of the notebook we recommend to you like something like the cross field from Nanami or the Hippo Noto which is has even more pages it is pretty much Bible thickness it's like 500 something pages you're still not going to be able to copy as much as you think on those pages the way most Bibles are written in columns and the amount of words on a singular page is going to take you multiple notebooks and if you're looking for multiple notebooks that's fine but that's probably what it's going to take so maybe it's loose sheets and some type of folio pad it's a lot easier to get to Moe River and loose sheets and a four size than getting a bound a four size to Moe notebook even though you can find pads and things like that a five is pretty common to find for Tomoe River there's lots of brands like I said the cross field the Hippo Noto I know elemental paper has made one which is pretty cool so you know there are options out there for Tomoe River paper but I think that's the biggest answer is using that Tomoe River paper because you're going to be able to get a lot of pages in a singular book that's going to be the best from like a thickness and performance perspective '''Myke Hurley:''' I think you're right yep yeah that's an interest in seems like a big that's a yeah '''Brad Dowdy:''' job I get this question probably like twice a year really for the past few years yeah yeah yeah so it's either I'm going to rewrite I'm going to handwrite the Bible or I need to notate in my Bible what pen to use those are the two right very very common questions I get and just to answer the pen notation question that no one asked in this episode the Uniball Jetstream 0.38 is an awesome awesome notation in book pen so I got '''Myke Hurley:''' I was a little bit confused at the start of the question and thought that Chris was writing their own Bible right like the Bible according to Chris it's like I don't know how to answer this question yeah that'd be a different story that's a very different thing all right that's it for this episode thank you so much to everybody for tuning in thank you to those of you who sent in a hashtag ask TPA question we'll be back next time we'll be doing horror stories on our next episode which I'm very excited about I always enjoy those thanks to ExpressVPN Pen Chalet and Harry's for their support you can find Brad online he is penaddict on Instagram I am i Myke I am Y K E Brad is also on Twitch twitch.tv slash penaddict and you go to penaddict dot com for Brad's work there as well we'll be back next time until then say goodbye Brad goodbye Brad [[Category:Podcast Transcripts]] [[Category:The Pen Addict Podcast Transcript]]
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