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== Phobias and Trypophobia Exploration ==

* Uh, not exactly. So I kind of know, I know thassalophobia. Yeah. I know arachnophobia. What's this one? Trypophobia is, it's one of these things where like, if you Google it, you may realize you have it. And then like, that's the end for you. Um, it is essentially, I don't really know how to describe it. And I won't Google it because it freaks me out. I have this where collection of like holes all close to each other can freak you out. Really? This pen has this for me. It's just looks like a bunch of holes and it's freaking me out. All right. You know what, Myke? That's a very valid complaint. Yeah. I must not, I must not have that. No. I mean, this is the thing. You know, if you have this because anytime, so one of the, one of the key kind of trypophobia freak outs is the Lotus plant. Like the Lotus flower. Mm hmm. Um, I think, yeah, like the, yeah, like the Lotus, like split the holes in it and you can cut them up. Yeah. Right. That, that is like big. Oh yeah. Interesting. Okay. So there you go. That's why I don't like it. Cause I look at it and I'm like, all right, you're freaking me out. You're freaking me out, man. I don't like it. Fair, fair. Myke, your feelings are validated. Thank you. Um, as someone who does, is not afraid of holes. These are just fire. Why would you say it like that? That is not fair. Cause I couldn't remember the name. That is not fair. I couldn't remember the name. That's not fair. What's the name? Afraid. Afraid is not fair.
* Trypophobia. Trypophobia. Okay. Someone. Trypophobia or tryptophobia. I can never remember which one. And again, I refuse to Google. Cause when you Google it, you're just shown the images. Oh yeah. No, don't do that. Don't do that. Unless you're curious if you are afraid of holes or not, then. But don't come in. Don't like show up in the feedback form and be like, Myke, why'd you do this to me? I told you not to Google it. All right. So like, if you've Googled it and now you've got this problem and it's one of these weird things, if you have it, but at least for me, I'm like drawn to it in a way. Like I hate looking at it, but I can't help it. Like it's weird. Sure. It's not like how I feel about spiders where I'm like, no, get them away from me. I don't want to be anywhere near them and I don't want to see them. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry about that. It's okay. I do think. Sorry for your loss. Sorry for your loss, Myke. Look, genuinely, very rarely comes up in your life. You know what I mean? So like, it's not a problem. Yeah. Just for the record, we are going to have a lot of feedback on this episode. Yeah. This one is a feedback magnet. This episode. I want this pink one. They're too expensive, like for what they are. Like I'll be the first to admit that. Caran d'Ache is already expensive. You know, when we're talking about products and I do like them. I've never really thought they're worth the money that they are. They're not like, these are like double the price for like the fancy, like the 849s are $70 and they're normally like, you know, like $30. So like, I don't like them that much. If there was a fixed pencil, I actually might consider it. What I did find weird as someone who is a Caran d'Ache fan, the Ecuador model is really kind of crazy. expensive compared to, I bought the Keith Haring Ecuador model and it was only like, Oh, I say only, it was crazy expensive, but it was like 130 bucks, maybe 140 bucks. And this one's like 450 bucks. And it seems kind of like the same concept. So I was like spinning my wheels trying to figure out, I was like, why is this Ecuador that much more crazy than the Keith Haring one? And I really can't find like, is this one made with like silver or like what? Like they're not, they're just like aluminum pens. And I couldn't, their product description is not accurate on the Ecuador page, which bothers me. Like, so I was really curious why this one was so much more expensive. Keith, Keith Haring is the, the same concept here and was like a third of the price. So anyway, I guess how much money does this person want? You know what I mean? Like maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking, speaking of which Myke, let's talk about the Estherbrook niblet. Niblet. What a great name. I love it. Do you? Yeah. I mean, I love the name. The name does not match the product.
* Cause the product is more serious. No, it's more serious. Niblet is funny. Oh, okay. Right. Sure. That is a funny word. And like the product is very serious. And let me just say, Brad, we don't know much about this. I looked at these images today and I was like, God damn. Yeah. That is a good looking. Yeah.
* What if I told you, Myke?
* That you could get the same pen that didn't have Estherbrook writing on the side or the little logo on the nib for less than a third of the cost. Is this actually the case? Like, are you presuming? No, it's actually the case. It's not the same materials. So here's the story. Okay. There's a company, there's a company called Fry Fine Writing International.
* They've been around for a while. They make years ago, they got popular because they made these pens with translucent barrels, but they had kind of like these etched gold or brass ends, like the finials, like the cap was brass and the, the end of the barrel was brass and they were just really cool looking. So they, they've been around for a while, but fine writing international is also an OEM manufacturer, right? So they make their own stuff, but they also make stuff for other companies.
* So Estherbrook is made by like the standard. Estherbrooks are made, assumed to be made by fine writing international, just as a thing, like, which is totally fine. Like literally zero issue with that. Like OEMs are there for a reason. A lot of companies work with partners to make their products, not an issue, but fine writing at international has already released this pen shape as the pen kit, which is a much worse name than the niblet. Um, I guess it's, and C K E T pen kit. Yeah. It's, it's a smash up of pocket and pen, I guess. Like some people, Brad need to be stopped. All right. This person, no one was there to stop them.
* It's a really bad name. Uh, it's, it's the same pen. Like I, I, I don't know what to say. And so the pen kit and call your pen pen kit and not have a clip on it. I'll be honest. I guess, I don't know. It's got a roll stop. I think these pens look great. Like they do look great, but the, but the FWI fine writing international, I'll say FWI probably a lot, uh, is $52 for the pen kit. And if you just flip over to the Esther brook niblet, which I'm assuming I'll see in DC, it's a hundred and seventy. Yeah. A hundred and seventy five dollars. And it's just, it's one of those things where, uh, like we got a peek behind the curtain accidentally, I think. Right. I think is what happened here. So who's making these? I'm assuming fine writing international. Right. Esther brook does not, the Kenro does not, is not their own manufacturer. Right. So they're having these pens made. And when you have a pen made, you have an OEM and the OEM in this case, fine writing international. And it's just funny. The fine writing international sell their own pens. I think that's the mistake here.
* I actually agree with you. And they don't, that they're selling, that they've already sold a design that they are now selling to a customer. Like that doesn't, that's bad. Like, like this is, let's be clear. This is not a, yeah, this is not a Kenro thing. Like I think FWI is the one that kind of, they screwed up here. Yeah. Because this pen for 175,