Editing The Pen Addict 469/transcript (section)

== Bujo Country ==


'''Myke:''' Yeah. You're in it. I'm in. Stickers now. I'm learning the Pinterest font.

'''Brad:''' There's washi tape right here, Myke. I got this. You're in it. It's not, it's not on the, in the, in the dock because I haven't used it yet, but I have this one. It's really thin and it's got planets on it and they're foil and they're shiny. Oh man. I can't wait to use it. I haven't figured out how to use it yet.

'''Myke:''' No shade, by the way. I'm not, this is not me throwing shade. It's just like a different type of thing. It's like a whole practice.

'''Brad:''' Yeah. I'm really enjoying this. I'm really enjoying having my little setup and you know where all this stuff goes, Myke?

'''Myke:''' Tell me.

'''Brad:''' Smanned. Smanned. Right there on the desk with the planner. All my highlighters, my pencil, my ruler, my planner stuff besides the fountain pen, if I'm using a fountain pen, goes in the smanned and it's all hangs out together. So yeah, I'm looking at rulers. If anyone has any ruler recommendations, send them my way. But I ordered the high tide clip ruler and I ordered the Traveler's Company brass ruler. I'm going to test those out. If those don't work, Y studio, of course, my beloved Y studio makes a brassing ruler, Myke.

'''Myke:''' I would immediately buy this ruler if it was available in 30 centimeters. Yeah. They only do 15?

'''Brad:''' Yeah. Like I'm good with the 15s to stay in the A5 book. But yeah, they're great. It's good.

'''Myke:''' For my use case of a ruler, I typically need a 30 centimeter ruler. Yeah.

'''Brad:''' Yeah. Yeah. So we're going to have some ruler testing going on, Myke. Just like I do with the pen testing and the pencil testing and the paper testing. We're about to have some ruler testing. So yeah. Good. It's, I am in on planners. I'm in on hashtag planners.

'''Myke:''' Feels like it.

'''Brad:''' I'm going to be hashtag planning all the things. I like doing the hashtag planning streams. I haven't gone like full hashtag planning stream, but I'm like starting to mess around with that.

'''Myke:''' That feels like a good thing to do. So in case people don't know, like this is one of the many things that people stream about these days. One of them is just like, I'm going to set up my planner for the week and that's going to be my Twitch stream. And, you know.

'''Brad:''' I watch them all the time.

'''Myke:''' I bet you do. Because it feels like it would really overlap with.

'''Brad:''' I mean, I'm clearly getting inspiration from that. Like the way I've never done what I'm doing now in my planner and I'm enjoying it. Good. And the thing that people should know is you figure out the things that work best for you and the layouts that work best for you. Like I'm never going to be like the hashtag Bujo person that has art drawn all over their pages. But I watch people who do this. And it's not necessarily for the art per se, but it's for how they're envisioning the planner working for them. And what can I get from it? Right. So it's a great learning experience.

'''Myke:''' I want to ask a little bit about these Pentel fineliners. So they're like the double side ones. One of the images. Oh, do you have questions about this? Why? What? What? What is it?

'''Brad:''' I want to see what you're going to say. If you say what I think you're going to say, it's going to be great.

'''Myke:''' Okay. I don't know if I'm going to. I feel like I'm going to let you down now. All right.

'''Brad:''' I'm unzipping my smand right now to get one out. Oh, my. Do we need to edit that out?

'''Myke:''' This is a family show. So the larger side.

'''Brad:''' Yes.

'''Myke:''' Thicker side. Yes. Does it bend?

'''Brad:''' I'm so glad you asked, Myke. I was going to put this in the show specifically to call out. And it's like, you know what? Nothing good is going to come out of this. So I'm just going to leave it out. And then you notice this, Myke. Okay. It looks like a hoof.

'''Brad:''' Does it now? Is that what it looks like to you? Yes. Okay. It does look like a hoof.

'''Brad:''' I'm leaving it there, by the way. I had a real problem with these when I discovered what was happening with them. I ordered them because I thought the colors look cool. Again, like the smand pen case, I didn't know it had this additional feature. I'm like, looks cool. Add to cart. Send to my house. When I opened these up on stream, I was like, why is there a notch going around the highlighter tip? And I was like, is this for like, is someone using like a ruler that high up to get it closer to the paper or to control the line?

'''Brad:''' And even chat was kind of flummoxed by this whole thing. Then we went and looked up the copy for the product. And it's designed to give you a flex in the highlighter. I was like, who needs a flex tip highlighter?

'''Myke:''' Also, the way to describe this, this kind of marketing is frustrating to me. As if just by making the statement, it makes it true. So it just says, the sturdy chisel tip flexes just enough to stay flush with the page, keeping your lines clean and straight. Hang on a minute. Hang on a minute. Is this a problem we had? Like, I don't think that this was an issue.

'''Brad:''' Here's the final theory that chat came up with in Twitch the other day. And I kind of buy it, but I don't know that it's necessary. So say you have your large textbook and you're in the middle of it and you have the curvature towards the center of the spine. It allows you to have a break when you're highlighting on that curve and the tip stays more on the page around that curve because the tip flexes.

'''Myke:''' I mean, that's a mighty fine theory if it works out.

'''Brad:''' The thing is, the tip doesn't flex. Like, it does not work like that. You have to, like, smash it into the paper to get the bend.

'''Myke:''' My favorite thing, Brad, is so you've got that image of the hoof. The very next image on JetPen's website is the image of highlighting, which is not straight. Right. Which is hilarious to me. That's super crooked.

'''Brad:''' Yeah, okay. Yeah, it's a non-feature feature, right? Yeah. You will not buy this to use the flexibleness of the highlighter tip because it does not bend unless you smash it. Like, it's a very thin notch around there, right? This is not, you know, it's not like you're holding, like, an apple stem, you know, connected to the apple. It's basically just, like, one entire thing with, like, a little notch around it. And it just doesn't do that. No one needs this.

'''Myke:''' I guess to actually get it to flex, you'd be pushing it down so hard it's probably too much ink that would come out. Yep. Yep. When you bought these, was your intention to use the thinner end or the thicker end? Like, what are you putting? You're doing the thicker end.

'''Brad:''' Here's the thing. Here's the thing again, Myke. I want to implore that. I am not making this up. I didn't know they were two-sided until they showed up.

'''Myke:''' I've had that, too, though. I just bought them because they look cool. I've had that, like, oh, there's two sides. It happens a lot with highlighters because in everyone's mind, you know what you're getting with a highlighter. You're getting the thick tip, right? I never use the thin ends of highlighters. I don't know what the thinner end would be for, really. Because what made you, I mean, because I think old favorite is the Kokoyo Beetle tip.

'''Brad:''' Sure. Yeah. I mean, they have, that's, like, the number one highlighter ever. It's just traditional colors. You know, it's traditional highlighter colors. I like the pastel-y. Yeah. I'm surprised. Like the mild liners.

'''Myke:''' I'm surprised. Like, I'm just on a Japanese page for Kokoyo. They don't really have a lot of options.

'''Brad:''' Yeah. And if you look at these, like, some pastel highlighters can be too light. But if you look at the writing sample, these are actually very, very reasonable colors. These are like, oh, it's just a lighter. It's just, like, those fluorescents turned down a little bit. Not a complete, complete change. So, I'm so glad you've, I was going to put this in there. I was like, nah, this will be, like, this will be a whole thing. And then you noticed.

'''Myke:''' The whole time we were talking, I was just looking at the image. Like, the whole time. Because, like, I was just like, oh, what are these all about? And, like, I was just looking. And I'm like, what? What is it for?

'''Brad:''' Hang on one second.

'''Brad:''' All right, I had to zip up my smand.

'''Myke:''' Oh, is that that noise? Wow. I thought you were going to sneeze or something.

'''Brad:''' Mm-mm.

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'''Brad:''' I'm excited about this first Ask TPA question because I think it's going to wreck your brain a little bit, but we'll get there.

'''Myke:''' I know. I've read this one about four times in the last couple of weeks.

'''Brad:''' It took me a minute. It took me a minute, but I think I got there.

'''Myke:''' Yeah. This comes from Sean. If you had a $1,000 budget and you had to choose only one of the following budget categories to spend the money, which category would you spend it in? $0 to $100? $100 to $200? $200 to $500? Or $500 plus? Is the category you selected? So this is the second part, which we'll get to in a bit. Is the category you selected the same as the category where you think the most innovation is currently happening in the industry? So when I first read this question, I was like, oh, I have to fill out a $1,000 budget. It's like, no, that's not the question. And then when I read the question the second time, I thought, am I giving suggestions for every category? No, that's not the question either. The question is, if we only had $1,000 to spend on pens, what kind of budget range would we go for? So would we get like five pens that are $200 or would we get two pens that are $500 or whatever?

'''Brad:''' Right. And you can't, like if you choose the $200, you can't go outside of that range. Yeah. You have to spend all your $1,000 in the $200 to $500 range. You can't say, well, I'm going to have this $300 pen and then this $50 pen and then this $500 pen, right? You're fixed into that range. My only question is, are you, you said it, but the question didn't say it. Are you saying this is only pens or do we have to have like paper and ink and all these other things? I'm guessing it's only pens on the price range.

'''Myke:''' I think it has to be pens because if you go at the $500 category, you can't buy anything else.

'''Brad:''' I mean, have you seen those Scribo ink bottles?

'''Myke:''' Right. But like what notebook are you going to get that costs $500? I know.

'''Brad:''' So yeah. So pens only. Yeah. All right. Where are you going to, you're fixed in the range that you choose to spend $1,000. Which group would you go?

'''Myke:''' This is pretty easy for me. This is pretty easy for me.