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== TWSBI Torch Pen ==


'''Brad Dowdy:''' Like, so this is the look. We'll have to figure out the technical parts of it because I think the TWSBI is more of a coating and this is more of a finish. And my distinction in that is that a coating will stay the same over the time where a finish will change over time.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. Well, I mean, the coating can come off. Which would be bad. But like that's one of the other properties though, right? Like coatings can wear off. The wear on a finish most of the time will just change its look. But it remains the same. Like you cannot make the Kaweco Supra look like a stainless steel pen again. Right. It's changed. Yep. Right? You have to sand it, I guess. And that's bananas. Why would you do that?

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. I have one of the original fire blues and I've used that pen so much. It is vastly different looking than when I got it, right? It just changes.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. But that's like if you bought like a brass pen, right? Like it's going to patina. Yes. It's got a patina. It's got a fancier name for what happens to it rather than wear. I mean, it's called – it's a benefit. Yes.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. So these are the – I'm talking on my butt now. This didn't really happen. But these are the Kaweco Supra stainless reject models that they took a blowtorch to.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Maybe.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' I'm only half joking. But it's smart. It's smart business because who would know? But anyway, the Supra is one of those pens I want to be better than it is. It's a really hard pen to recommend. We spoke about this pen before. If you remember – When I did my review.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. Brad did a review of it. This is the Kaweco that looks like and tries to be three pens in one. And it kind of almost fails all of those.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. What I found interesting in this email – and again, we'll link this in the show notes – is they made a point to put Kaweco refills in here for their pens. And they have two new refills, including a D1 ballpoint refill with a needle tip. And the D1, for those who don't know what that is off the top of your head, it is the tiniest refill. It's used in multi-pins or really miniature pens like the Kaweco Lilliput ballpoint. And they don't normally come with a needle tip. So this will have a .4 millimeter needle D1 refill. That is way more interesting to me than the –

'''Myke Hurley:''' What other pens would this go in?

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Oh, boy. Off the top of my head. Yeah. The Kaweco Lilliput is what they're making this for and some of their other sport refills. But let's see. I'm blanking. And so, like, the Shone pin has a D1 converter. There are several multi-pins that the D1 – Like, when I use the Sharbo, the Zebra Sharbo, those use D1 refills. So, like, in the three-pin multi-pins, the Lamy 2000 multi-pin uses D1 refills. So things like that. And it's always – there's not a lot of experimentation in D1 refills, right? Like, it's hard. Like, Zebra makes a gel D1 refill. But they're very expensive and they run out of ink very fast because it's so tiny.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' So I find this interesting. So I want to get this tested out. I'm going to correct myself. It's 0.5 millimeter. But in a ballpoint, that writes, like, a 0.4 millimeter line. So, yeah, pretty cool. So, like, out of all of the Kaweco's, you know, holiday link, my most exciting thing is the cheapest thing on the page. And that's the D1 refill. But that's just how I roll.

'''Myke Hurley:''' All right. Should we take a break here? We've actually got a few more products to talk about today and a little bit of industry news.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah, totally. Because I want to hit these other topics. Let's do a break now.

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'''Brad Dowdy:''' So I want to hit one more new product news. Then we'll get into our two kind of news topics, which I think we'll have some pretty decent conversation around. But the first one, Myke, did you see the Sailor Pro Gear British Racing Green Gold Spot Exclusive? Yeah. With that voice, I have to ask you, did you order it?

'''Myke Hurley:''' I have not ordered it. Okay. I'm tempted. Let me tell you right now, Brad. This is tempting to me. They made a king of pen out of this. Right? How good would this look as a king of pen? Oh, my God.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' They will not do that. So you're safe. I'm tempted to, is what I'm saying.

'''Myke Hurley:''' I know. But this is beautiful because it's a deep green in the body, but the grip and the finials are more, it looks like it's more see-through. This is a very, very good looking Pro Gear. I find it rare that a Pro Gear can be so simple these days and look as good as this one.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' That's very well put because I agree with you wholeheartedly, but it took me a minute, right? Like someone sent me this link. I had not seen it and they sent me the link and I just stared at it. I'm like, yes, I obviously like it. But like, what am I? I was trying to figure it out. I was like, am I missing something? It looks very simple. It's like, I see the finials. It's like the lighthouse look, right? Where the top and bottoms of the pin, they do this translucent thing like Sailor will do. But these are green translucent. It's kind of, I almost want the comments where the green section, it's almost like a trick ink window, right? Because we're so used to green ink windows and other pins, especially like from someone like Pelican. It throws me off a little bit. But I think from a store exclusive from an execution perspective, it's dead on. Like it's great, right?

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. I would say the price is a little high.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' That's the new price of them, right? So the regular is 312 and the slim is what? 228? 220? Something like that.

'''Myke Hurley:''' I am more used to $250 for a Pro Gear. You know, like that is more of a price that I'm used to. So like, I really like this, but I have paused on it because over $300 for a standard size Pro Gear, you know, I feel like that that is more of a let me think about this rather than $250, which is like, yeah, I'm going to go for it. That's kind of how it's been in the past.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah, and just so the record is clear, this is the new standard price. This is not a premium limited edition price. This is the new correct MSRP with the discount pricing that Sailor North America is doing in the U.S. So this is the now standard price for the Pro Gear and the Pro Gear Slim. So, yeah, you're paying the 312 if you want the big one and 220 for the smaller one, which like I have, I'm better with the 312 than I am with the 220 to be perfectly honest.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Okay. Yeah.