Editing The Pen Addict 35/transcript (section)

== Felt Tip Pens ==


'''Myke Hurley:''' All I have is the refill. I mean, but the refill is sized well enough that it is like a pen, right? It's thin, but it's long enough. I can hold it like a pen. It comes with a cap as well. So, you know, I'm using it. And I am disappointed. Oh, wow.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' I didn't see that coming.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Simply because, right, so it's a perfectly fine. If not really nice felt tip pen, right? So, it's like, you know, I like those. We both like these types of pens.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Oh, I'm a huge, huge fan of this style of tip.

'''Myke Hurley:''' But, so, you know, it's, but it's, all it is really, Brad, is kind of like a step up from the Sharpie pen. Right. I mean, the Sharpie pen is kind of probably the best in this field. My, I don't use them because, I mean, I've used them in the past and I feel that they don't last for very long before the ink dries out. I've not been able to, I haven't wanted to do that sort of test yet. But, but the problem for me is, if this was 30 bucks, maybe even 40, I would probably do it. Right. If they look like they did. And then, because I've got a nice looking, like, pen body and a refill that I know I'm going to enjoy. You know, like, for example, the Retro 51, right? I've paid $20, $30 for those.

'''Myke Hurley:''' When, you know, because I like the refill and I like the way that the pens look. But for $150, you couldn't make me spend that money for this. Like, you really couldn't. Like, it just, there's nothing to it that is special. You know, like, I feel like I can't write in my normal way. Like, if I write on the side, the line is inconsistent. Oh, really? And, and, and it's scratchy. And I kind of, to get the best out of it, I have to write with the pen flat on. You know, and then maybe, you know, as they say, like, it's like a fountain pen because it wears down to you. Yeah, maybe that's the case. But as you mentioned last week, we'd have to do that every time you refill it. Every time you get a refill, you'd have to start all over again. And that doesn't seem like $150 worth of pen. You know, where every time you're having to start over. Because if you spent $150 on something, like a pen, you expect it. A pen that you spend $150 on, typically you expect to get better with you over time. Now, roller balls and stuff, they won't change anyway. So, you don't, you naturally don't expect that. But a pen like this, it would wear down. The tip would wear down. Maybe around the edges or whatever. Or maybe on a certain edge if you hold the pen in the same way. Which you might do, depending on the way that the pen's made.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Right. That's the nature of that tip, right? Anyone who's ever used a Sharpie pen or a Sakura Pigma Micron. I mean, these are not long-lasting, durable pens. I mean, these are pen tips that break down. And that's just the nature of them. I mean, you love them while you're using them. If it's a well-built tip and then it's disposable, you chuck it in the trash. And you get a fresh one and it's a new writing experience.

'''Myke Hurley:''' One of the things that you love about it is that it does break down. So, by the time that the pen is finished, you've got something that writes just like you want it to, right? Or like a good fountain pen. But you have, and so you throw it away and you pick up a new and you're like, oh, I have to start again. But it cost me $5 to do that.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' I thought it cost about $10.

'''Myke Hurley:''' No, I mean, like, so it's cost you $5 to do that with a regular pen. You know, even a really good one, like a Sakura Pigma Micron or something. It's cost you $5 to start that process again. So, you're like, it's frustrating, but it's $5. Give it a couple of weeks, maybe a month or two, and I'm back to where I was. But with this thing, even though you're spending $5, $8, $10 to refill it, you also spent $150 on a body for it. And that kind of ruins it. That makes the whole thing stupid. Like, if this was one of the parker lines that was $20 for a body, $20, $30 for a good-looking parker body, and then a refill, I think that I would have said, Brad, I've bought one. Because this thing writes really nicely. The refill is fantastic. There is nothing wrong with it. But the fact that it hasn't blown me away is the problem. Right.

'''Myke Hurley:''' It's perfectly fine. When you've got it at the right angle, it's got a nice, consistent line, good ink flow.

'''Myke Hurley:''' There's no splatter to the line or anything like that. But again, that's nothing that a Pigma Micron won't give me. Exactly. Because I think that if you're going outside of the standard, I kind of said the Sharpie is the best. When I meant best, I just meant it's the most prolifically widely used and accepted. But I think we would both say the Pigma Micron is better. The Sign Pen, who makes that?

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Uni. Yeah, the Uni. I mean, there's a couple of different Sign Pens. Pentel and Uni both make a Sign Pen.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah, but the Uni is the one that we both have.

'''Myke Hurley:''' And I really like that. But that suffers the same fate. I had a blue one. It just ran out really quickly. And maybe the parkour, again, maybe the parkour will last longer. Maybe they've done something to make it last longer. That wouldn't surprise me at all. Because it's quite a large refill. The refill is pretty large. The refill on this is as big as the main body of the Retro 51. So if you take off the screw top, so if you just remove the screw section, it's as large as the rest of the pen. Wow. So that's a big refill.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah.

'''Myke Hurley:''' And I'm sure that's because they want to get a ton of ink into this thing to keep it running. Which is great that they've done that, because they don't have to do that. They can make it standard, and it could run out every six weeks or whatever. Well, that's how this pen is. So in my opinion, they've taken some steps to make it run longer. But again, that's still not enough. I needed to be blown away. Like, I don't have parameters for that, because otherwise I would make that pen. But I needed this to just be outstanding, just incredible. Like how I felt when I first picked up the Retro 51. When I first picked up the Retro 51 and put the pen to the page, I was blown away. Because it was totally unexpected. But I got with this exactly what I would have expected from this type of pen. And with the Retro 51, I got nothing like I've ever experienced with a rollerball before. You know? And that's kind of where... And it was like the first time I ever used a Lamy Safari, right? That blew me away.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yes, exactly. Yeah.