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== Version Two Product Discussion ==


'''Brad Dowdy:''' And because I think it can get there. But what I would say about that is that this seems like the ideal version two product. I think there will be some things that can be corrected from version one once it gets out into the wild. So, I'd like to help version one get out into the wild. I think this will work.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' But, you know, would I recommend someone who's not experienced with Kickstarter to jump in on this one? Probably not. But if you want to take a chance on something cool and you think you might use it, I kind of get the feeling just by reading all this that technically it's going to work. So, we'll see. So, I'm in. We'll follow it. We'll see how it works out.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. It's going to be interesting. I'm anxious to get it. I hope it fulfills. I hope it succeeds. You know, they have a ways to go on the project. I'm fairly certain this will work if it comes to fruition. The second part of that, which I'm completely ignoring, is do you need this?

'''Brad Dowdy:''' That's going to be the biggest question because it's not expensive. I think it cost me around $100 US, 105. It's 80 pounds. So, it's like 100, 105. It's not expensive. But that makes sense, you know, based on what's going into it. But do you actually need this? I don't know that I do need this product, Myke. I don't know that I get the benefit of using the two ink cartridges. But I want to see if this works. So, we'll see. I'll keep tracking it.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah, I plan to keep my eye on this one. It is very intriguing to me just from a design perspective, like just from a problem-solving idea. It intrigued me. You know, like there's a bunch of comments in the chat room. There's a bunch of comments like on the page about the nibs drying out and stuff. It just doesn't really feel like an issue to me because I don't think I own a fountain pen that doesn't dry out like after not being used for a period of time. And so, you know, it just needs a little bit of coaxing to get started. Right? Like I just had it this morning. Like I uncapped my Aurora and I was kind of scribbling with it for like a minute before the ink would start moving. You know, like this is just the thing that happens. I don't really feel that it's going to be necessarily better or worse because, you know, like one nib isn't being used as frequently. It's just like if you uncapped a second pen, you know? Like I don't really share in that concern. But I think that this is an intriguing idea. Like because, you know, we're focusing on colors, but it's got interchangeable nibs. You could just use the same ink in two different nib sizes.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. And those Lamy nibs are super easy to swap out. You know, I'd probably have like an extra fine on one and a stub on the other side or something like that. Two different colors. You know, it'll be fun to play around with. So hopefully this works.

'''Myke Hurley:''' I support the idea and I back it too for that reason. Because I just think that this is like, there's just something about it that works for me kind of from a product design perspective. Yeah. And I would also like to see Kevin get to the point where he could make this pen. I thoroughly expect this pen to have a lot of twists and turns in its production because it is quite complex technically for somebody's first pen, right? That they're making. But I sometimes think that like, because Kevin isn't maybe coming to this with the knowledge of having made a bunch of pens in the past, he may be freed up from what is traditional thinking. Sure. And that could lead to an interesting product at the end of it all. Right.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Right. And that also, what you said right before that, it goes along with my version two thinking. I think this was going to be like, this is one of those products where I don't know that would be iterative change between V1 and V2. I think it could be a big jump in quality performance style. Like, this is what Kickstarter is for. It's like to take these ideas and see what could happen.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. Like if he works out the mechanism, right? Like, because that's what this was about. This project is about helping him fund the production of the internals of this thing predominantly. Yep. Yeah. It's, you know, internals. Imagine what he could then do if he got that nailed down for future, for future products. Like it could open up a lot of really interesting possibilities. So I would like to see this product exist.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' So I'm, I'm down. I'm down. We're down on lots of things this episode, Myke. We're just getting started. But we have a wonderful new sponsor of the show that I had. I definitely have some things to say about this one, Myke. What you got for us?

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'''Brad Dowdy:''' Do you want to hear my Cain11 story? You want me to save it for future episodes?

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'''Brad Dowdy:''' Okay. I'll give a teaser. I'm really happy with them.

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