Editing The Pen Addict 616/transcript (section)

== Creve Coor Airport ==


'''Myke Hurley:''' Crave, Coor. Beautiful. It sounds nice, but just not from my mouth. But it's 10 minutes from that airport. But you can get the details at stlpenshow.com. You can buy your tickets now. It's $5 for day admission, $30 for a trader pass for all show access, or $10 for a weekend pass. Discover and sign up for classes. See a complete list of vendors. Get information on Westport Plaza and things to do in St. Louis. Plus, check out the link on the website to book hotel rooms at a special rate of $141. These blocks fill quickly, so don't miss out for a fun-filled, exciting, and educational weekend. Get your tickets to the 2024 St. Louis Pen Show at stlpenshow.com. And me and Brad were talking before the show because I had to really think about St. Louis because I instinctively want to say St. Louis. So I will now give you what I think this should be called, which is the Exposition di Stilo St. Louis.

'''Myke Hurley:''' They can take that rum of it if they want.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Via Creve Coor Airport.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Creve Coor Airport.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' So Creve Coor, I feel there needs to be like an ungeniused episode. It's a French term for a broken heart. Creve Coor or a Creve Coor Airport. So I don't know if that's the correct translation, but I feel like there needs to be a deep dive into this. I am interested.

'''Myke Hurley:''' I'll look into it. If you want to go to the Exposition di Stilo, St. Louis, go to stlpenshow.com. And St. Louis Pen Show, I hope that you don't mind us making a little fun. You sound amazing. We all love you. Thank you for sponsoring this episode.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah, so Anne and Dave, who put on the show, work as hard as anybody in the Pen Show business. And I'm super guilty. Like every time I see Anne at a Pen Show, I'm super guilty. She doesn't even ask me to come anymore because the week that the show is on is what I've explained to her, why I can't make it, is my wife's birthday. And we always take a vacation around there. And I'm not going to be able to swing telling my wife, on her vacation week for her birthday, that we're going to the St. Louis Pen Show. So one of these years, I'm going to get there. One of these years, I'm just going to have to make it happen. Like the stars will have to align. This is a beautiful looking hotel.

'''Myke Hurley:''' This looks like an all winner of a Pen Show to me. Yeah.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' I really want to get there. I really want to get there. So yeah, check out the St. Louis Pen Show. And seriously, if you're within a few hours, make the plans to go. Make a day trip out of it. It's really worthwhile. And they do a great job at this show. Treat yourself. All right. We got a shout out of the week, Myke. Shout out of the week. I surprised you by linking the newest podcast on the Relay FM network, which has a lot of overlap here. And that's called Paper Places. So the wonderful Carrie, I'll let you pronounce her last name. Provenzano. Provenzano. Carrie Provenzano has started this podcast. Do you want to give the breakdown for this? I feel like you might be pretty good at this.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. Carrie is her day job. She has a couple of day jobs. She is the chief advertising officer at Relay FM. She also helps me out with marketing strategy at Cortex Brand as well. But she is also a writer. And Carrie has been taking a master's program at Cambridge. And she has been wanting to expand her skills into new areas, and that includes writing. So she's been doing some creative writing stuff and really wants to make this a part of her life. And so as she is going along this journey of writing her book, and she's been wanting to think about what are the best ways to pick up some information, some tips, some advice, this ended up evolving into a podcast where on every episode of Paper Places, Carrie brings in a writer of some description, whether they are an author, a novelist, maybe they write on the web, but they write, like that's part of their life, to understand how they got to where they are, like the path that they took from deciding they wanted to be a writer to the work that they have now produced. The first episode is available now, and Dan Morin is a guest on the show. Dan is a host here at Relay FM on the show Clockwise, but he is also a writer at Six Colors, so he writes some tech stuff. But Dan has also written, I think, four novels now, like published four novels, and so there's obviously a lot of discussion about that. So it's a really interesting episode because Dan is very open with talking about this stuff, so he talks about his advances and all that kind of stuff. So if you're interested in kind of what it takes in getting your first book published, what it takes to get there and what it's like when it happens, you can go check out Paper Places. But one of my favorite things on the show is at the start of every episode, Carrie gives a little monologue about where she is in her journey, like how her book is coming along. So it's a really fun show. Carrie is very, is exceedingly talented for someone who has produced one episode of a podcast. So it's a good listen from the beginning, which isn't always the way that podcasts go. So go and check out Paper Places.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah, it definitely feels like episode 188. Like she has been doing this for a while and the interview was great with Dan. I love Dan's work. I haven't read any of the novels, but I always follow his, he does an annual piece on like his income sources.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' And breaks it down. I always try to link that post to people who are thinking about, you know, kind of working on their own, how many different income sources you have. Like I always talk about income sources, like when you're working for yourself. And he does a really good job breaking all that stuff down and they're talking about that. And they're talking about the whole process in this episode, you know, from writing to finding agents to pitching your books and everything. So it was a really great episode and I look forward to listening more. And I think a lot of people that listen to The Pen Addict, it's very writer adjacent. So I think y'all will enjoy this podcast as well.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yep.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' All right. So I mentioned, you mentioned, what did you say? The pen? Pen tasting. Pen tasting. The song,

'''Myke Hurley:''' the exhibition to Stilo.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. So we've done paper tasting before, right? Where you get a, you get a batch of 20 papers and you test them out and they're doing a pen tasting, which I think is a really smart way to experiment. One of the great things about pen shows is getting to try things that you may not have tried. You know, in before you've only read about them online or seen my review, but you don't know, like the Pelican M200, it's a perfect example. Hey, is that too small for my hand? Which that's most of the feedback you get about the 200. Yeah, it's great, but it's just too small. So I have to use the Pelican M600 or bigger. So, I took this a little bit further, kind of accidentally, on stream a couple of weeks ago to where I have a way for people who watch my stream on Twitch to force me to ink up a pen, right? So, I won't go into all those details. I'll put a link in the show notes so you can get all the specifics. But the end result is that the viewers on Twitch picked out, wanted to make me ink up any pen that I have with any ink that I have. And we didn't have a specific pen and ink combination where before, like, someone has had like a very specific pen and a very specific ink they wanted me to put together and we do that. This time it was like, well, I want you to do it. I want you to ink something up, but I don't know what. So, how can we solve this? Well, Myke, we broke out the dice. We broke out the dice and I just happened to have the proper setup to do this and, you know, we rolled a D100 dice and got landed on number 69 like, because, of course, that's exactly the first time I do this, of course, that's exactly the number and it's on video so there was no shenanigans with that. It just nicely happened that way. And I have a little pin tray box, well, little, it's not the right term, but it holds 100 pins so we just counted down the numbers.

'''Myke Hurley:''' so it came from the Penatic 100? Yeah, yeah,

'''Brad Dowdy:''' yeah. It came from the Penatic 100 so, you know, each tray holds 20 so we just did 20, 40, 60, then up to 69 and I pulled out a pin and it was a Franklin Kristoff Italian Ice Model 20 which is a pin that I love. And the reason I'm rambling on about this is because the whole concept is how do we break from our ruts of using the same thing all the time and as someone who has endless opportunities at their fingertips to make changes in their daily writing, I'm still a creature of habit and I like what I like, you know, I like a certain output on the page and how I get there oftentimes results in me picking the same pin with the same nib, with the same ink and using it on the same paper. So, I'm just putting this out there as one way to kind of get a little bit of randomization in your stationary usage. So, this caused me to use a pin that I love but I haven't inked up in ages and then even if I can decide on a pin I will sit there and stare at I don't know the 150 bottles of ink that I have which is you know what I like just the tractor beams pulling me into the pilot of Roshizuku Shinkai you know what because it's freaking great and it's like my favorite ink of all time it's like well I've got this pen now and I'm just going to ink it up with an ink I know good and well how it looks and how it writes I was like yeah that's comfortable and that's easy to do but I really think the effort to be made to randomize these things just makes makes it so much more enjoyable to use our stuff and you know I'm like I said I'm as guilty as anybody in getting in these ruts and picking the same products so it was great to have this little bit of mixture and you know you could use any type of randomization like if you keep your pins in a spreadsheet you know you can pick a random number or if you use something like fountain pen companion you can do it randomly if you don't have any of these things and you own five pins I mean you could do a little blind draw you know just close your eyes and grab a pen and then find your inks and just grab an ink and put them together and use them and figure it out and maybe it's terrible but that's part of the fun right like we ended up with a J. Herban Shogun Shimmer ink in this pen and it's just one of my favorite inks and one of my favorite pens and not in a million years would I've chosen those to be put together which is a weird thing to say but I think people that listen to the show completely understand that right like we're used to like if I have this Italian eyes it's a fully transparent pen I'm probably going to pick something bright and colorful to use because it's going to make the pen look cool but you know what this ink is so amazing and it just works well with this pen and it's great and this is something I enjoyed a lot so I just wanted to give it a shout out and the whole process for doing this and I really need to do more of this because a lot of times I do what I'm supposed to do or what I'm comfortable with doing and there's no downside to doing this right the downside is well maybe I have to clean the pen a little bit earlier than I planned on because it didn't really work for me oh well like that is if that's the only downside I need to experiment more so I think this is a good kicking off point for people to think about their own experimentation with stationary especially with stationary they own already right that's the kicker here is use the stuff you have and figure ! out a way

'''Myke Hurley:''' and I just never used the same pens as the day before that's just a very simple way of doing it for me it's not as involved as mixing up my inks and my pens but just to make sure that I'm using more stuff and not the same stuff all the time

'''Brad Dowdy:''' yep it's great and I want to do more of this and I'll probably talk about more down the

'''Brad Dowdy:''' I don't want to be safe in my stationary because there's no reason to be

'''Myke Hurley:''' exactly