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== Sailor Pen Discussion ==


'''Myke:''' Yeah, I want to see what you're feeling. I don't want, I don't want to influence it in any way.

'''Brad:''' Yeah, and same here, right? So we kind of like beat around the bush saying what we like, what we dislike. And then in the end, we both say just kind of generally we get there, right? Like, oh, I really love it. Or, oh, I can't stand this. This is terrible. Whatever. What did you think about this pen?

'''Myke:''' I mean, it's absolutely unbelievably stunning.

'''Brad:''' Yeah, and I agree 100%.

'''Myke:''' I love every part of the design. And it's nothing like a sailor. It doesn't look like a sailor pen at all. Like, so they have three, they have three versions of this pen. And I think they're all limited to 110 units. And they vary quite significantly. Sorry, 1,100 units.

'''Brad:''' Yes, there's one that's 100 and one that's 1,100.

'''Myke:''' Yeah, there's one of them, which is the mega, mega, mega expensive one. There's 110 of them. And then there are two versions where they have 1,100 of them. The one that there is 110 of, isn't that the, like, it's multiple tens of thousands? How much is that?

'''Brad:''' I think it's like 5,500 US, like $5,000. Yes, you're right. Because it's got a gold, basically, it's got a gold belly band. And it's not a, it's not like a little thin line. It's like an inch wide strip of gold.

'''Myke:''' And then the other ones are like $1,000 or something.

'''Brad:''' Yeah, I think a little over $1,000.

'''Myke:''' And they don't look like sailor pens at all, which is so intriguing. But there's something about it which is very nautical to me. Like, they kind of look like pipes or something, like on a ship. And then they also have this new kind of, what they're calling a lid plug.

'''Myke:''' It's a great, terrible thing. At least that's how it's translated. It's probably a better thing to say.

'''Brad:''' Yeah, remember, Google Translate.

'''Myke:''' I've forgotten that. Because Google translates automatically, so sometimes I forget. But this is like a new finial, basically.

'''Brad:''' I mean, it's an accurate description.

'''Myke:''' Yeah, and the two different models have it done slightly differently. The more expensive one, the sailor logo is kind of suspended in this, like, acrylic disc. And on the other ones, the acrylic disc sits on top of the sailor logo. And it's very, like, porthole kind of look to me.

'''Myke:''' All I'm going to say is, I personally would be really intrigued if this is the beginning of a new sailor design language.

'''Brad:''' Historically, it's not going to be. Based on their previous five-year anniversary releases, right? I have the 105th, which was the black and blue striped ebonite. And it's this longer shape. It's kind of not really a king of pen. It's got some different tapers and some different angles in it. And I've never seen anything like it since. So I think they use this as their playground. And I agree with you that I would like to see it. And I don't know that history dictates that we will. But the times are different, though. Times are different, right? New owner, right? Yeah.

'''Myke:''' So they already, like, rebranded as well, kind of, right? They remade the logo. Right. They made a swirl.

'''Brad:''' They made a swirled ebonite king of pen this past year. Yeah. Or I don't know if that was earlier this year or late last year, the orange or black one. Really, really beautiful pen. Still in the king of pen shape. But this shape is very different, right?

'''Brad:''' A couple of things. One, I think you're spot on. This is a very nautical feeling pen with just the shape. I don't know why, right? I'm with you. I can't say why.

'''Myke:''' It also evokes like a telescope to me as well. Yeah.

'''Brad:''' Yeah. So I wonder how the grip section feels because there's a pretty good taper on it. Like, this is one I'd want to try if I was interested. Like, I'm not interested in buying this whatsoever.

'''Myke:''' There's a bit of a step as well, which is quite aggressive from the body to the grip.

'''Brad:''' Pretty good barrel step there.

'''Brad:''' But it also depends on the size of the pen. Like, how big is this pen? Like, the 105th that I have is a large, large pen. I'm bigger than king of pen. The finial is...

'''Myke:''' 163 millimeters. So 16 centimeters.

'''Brad:''' So what's that in inches? So five to five and a quarter or five and a half is like a standard length.

'''Myke:''' Yeah, about 6.2 inches.

'''Brad:''' So that's pretty... It's a big pen. Which they're going to make. Like, this limited edition, they're going to make it big. The finial is definitely a love-hate thing, right? I'm with you where I love it. I love both styles. Like, the floating anchor on the expensive end. It's really... Oh my gosh, it's beautiful. Yeah. Or the flat gold anchor on the other one. I'm good with either one. Like, I've already liked the Sailor Lighthouse look, right? That clear ends on the pen. So this is a different take on that. What I really like is... I don't know what you want to call it. The ring around the top, like, just under the finial. Like, the way it pokes out. It's a roll stop. It's not a roll. Is it a roll stop?

'''Myke:''' Yeah, they talk about it on the product page. It's a roll stop.

'''Brad:''' I like that design. I could go... I could see... Give me the traditional flat anchor finial with that roll stop in, like, a pro gear, right? With that type of... This type of design.

'''Myke:''' What they say, like, the translation says that it protects the clipless body as a detent, which I just assume that means it's a roll stop, right? Like...

'''Brad:''' Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, if this starts going, it's going to go.

'''Myke:''' It's going to go because these look pretty heavy, too. So, like, the momentum of this thing would be pretty significant.

'''Brad:''' Yeah. It's more of a rest stop, not a roll stop. So, if it gets going, it's going to go. But overall, I'm 100% with you. I think this is a great design. I would like to see even a small feature of this pin make it into other pins. Like, the nib design is new, right? Yeah. Just the... They don't have all the scroll work. It's a simpler but neat nib. You know, it's got the 110th stamping on it and things like that. The new logo works well in the sizes that it shows up on the pen.

'''Brad:''' I was a little concerned in general. I think the Sailor word mark is a little weird still. But the anchor, I think, works great. And then there's an ink, Myke. So, the Sailor Blue Dawn ink with this. It's... I don't know that you'd call it a blue-black. It's definitely oceany. It's very, very, very pretty. So, yeah. I love it.

'''Myke:''' Let me just say, I mean, we spent a lot of time, even in the past few weeks, again, like, dragging some companies for their anniversary editions and special editions. Sailor know how to do this.

'''Brad:''' Yeah.

'''Myke:''' Like, this is so good.

'''Brad:''' This is one of those areas... I always talk about execution, right? And this is one of those areas where they always execute very, very well.

'''Myke:''' Because another company would have just made the $5,000 version.

'''Myke:''' But they have also made a $1,000 version, which is still mega expensive. It's outside of the range that I would want to spend. But it's still more attainable than the $5,000 version. So, for the people, the true, like, mega, mega fans that do want one, well, there are 2,000 of these that they're making that people can pick up. And I appreciate that rather than saying, all right, we've made 100 of these and they're $5,000 each. Which I feel like is something we would see more from, say, a pilot. It's actually the exact thing we saw from them, right? With their 100th, where they made this beautiful pen set. And you could only spend, you know, you have to spend tens of thousands of dollars to get one.

'''Brad:''' Or that was it for you. Well, let's be fair. There were two tiers. The problem, the second tier was still insane. The second tier was still like five grand. Yeah, okay, fair enough.

'''Brad:''' So, yeah, I'm with you. That's pretty cool. So, yeah, good job by Sailor. Like, I, you know. I'm into it.

'''Brad:''' Talk about, like, there's always something. That's, you know, we get ragged on for talking about Sailor all the time. But they're always up to something that's worth talking about, in my opinion.

'''Myke:''' Yeah, we'll do you a deal. We'll stop talking about Sailor when they stop doing interesting things. Until that point, we're going to keep doing it.

'''Brad:''' Yeah. And it doesn't mean interesting good. Because we'll talk bad about them just as much. Because there's so much. There's so much. All right, Myke. Speaking of expensive pens, I've got a problem.

'''Myke:''' Okay.