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== Top 87 Pens List ==


'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah, all the way back in 2018.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Didn't they choose the Baron Fig pen right up there? Was that that one?

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yes. So that was the one with the Baron Fig squire was number one. And that was pretty much the only good thing about that list, right? Like that was the thing where the squire was number one. And I was like, okay, cool. I get that. Like that makes sense with what you're trying to sell me here on this list. So everything else about the list, right? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

'''Myke Hurley:''' If you're in New York, you work in New York, you're in New York, you always get covered by the New York media. This is something that you see all the time. And this is the way. Great pen because there's a great refill, great body. We are eye on a couple. I love them. But it's just, I think that New York bias played, helped them out. Absolutely.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' But that was the least problematic part of that list. And I thought this was last year. It's all the way back in 2018, episode 335. I'll put a link in the show notes.

'''Myke Hurley:''' The reason you're thinking this is the same reason I'm thinking it is we just did like the wire cutter or something. Yeah, probably. There was one very recently that we'd just gone through and we were equally, I actually think more frustrated with that one than any of the others.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Well, this one might win, Myke, for frustration level. It is one of the most scattershot lists that I have ever seen.

'''Myke Hurley:''' I don't get the point of 87. Not just the round number, but just the number as high as it is. Number 86 is the Lamy Safari. These things, we're never going to be happy about them, right? They're never going to be what we want.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Because they're made for a specific reason.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah, which is why the top 10, by and large, I'm actually pretty good with. Because I can kind of see how they've gotten to it. Yep.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' So the top 10, I'll run them down real quick. So from 10 to 1. So number 10, the Parker Classic. That is essentially the longer, skinnier version of the Parker Jotter. It will make sense why that's number 10 when I get up to number 5 here. Number 9, Stabilo Perfect Glide 0.3 millimeter. It's a rollerball. Number 8, Stabilo Exam Grade. Number 7, Muji Gel Ink Ballpoint 0.38 millimeters. It's not a ballpoint, but this is part of the larger, broader issue. Number 6, Tombow Fudenosuke Brush Pen. We'll come back to that one. Number 5 is the Cross Classic Century. That's the standard issue gift pen by Cross. You know, the skinny ballpoint pen. That's the graduation gift. That's why the Parker Classic, I'm assuming, is in at number 10. They lean towards those pens. Number 4 is the Edding 1255 Calligraphy Pen. We are definitely coming back to that one. Number 3 is the Edding 55 Fineliner. It's your traditional Fineliner, you know, drawing pen. Number 2, Muji Gel Ink 0.7 millimeter. And number 1, Stabilo 0.88, which is another Fineliner. So, oh boy, I don't want to spend too long on this. But when you have your number 4 pen, the Edding 1255 Calligraphy Pen as your number 4 overall pen. And it is a chisel tip marker.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' I don't know what you're doing with this list other than just farming affiliate links, which is totally fine.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Well, I think it's like we tried it and this felt really fun. But no one's actually using it to write with every day. And, like, it's totally fine to try that out and be like, oh, this is fun. But nobody's writing with those. They're not for writing with. And you're not doing calligraphy. I don't care what you're saying. You're not doing calligraphy. Right.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' And that's not the premise of this article, I don't believe. So, that's why, like, having the Tombow Brush Pen at number 6, that's a favorite pen of mine. Like, it would never be anywhere around, like, some of these other pens. Um, the Muji Gel ink pens are funny to read, number 2 and number 7, because they talk about how well they write without mentioning that it's the same Pilot and Uniball refills that are, like, ranked in the 40s and 50s and 70s of this list. Yeah, but that's, we all fall for that. It's, like, you know. Um, the biggest outlier, the biggest thing that just makes you go, what is happening here with a list like this other than, like, I wouldn't even read it if we, if we, if I didn't want to discuss it on the podcast. Because they put in something, like, at number 20, they put in the Molotov one-for-all marker. This is a paint pen, Michael. This is a paint pen. Like, shake up with the agitator in the barrel paint pen.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' It boggles the mind that this exists in an 87 best pens. Like, it may be the number one paint pen right on the market, but that, this just shows me they're just throwing stuff together. Like, the paint pen is ahead of, like, the Pilot G2 and the Uniball Vision and, like, every other good pen ever. Like, a paint pen. Who is going to use a paint pen to write with? And that's the way they presented this list. Nobody is. Because that's the thing.

'''Myke Hurley:''' I believe they've used these pens. Sure. But they've got the pen and they've been like, oh, that feels nice. Uh-huh. And then.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Anyway.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' So, that's about all I have to say. It's funny.

'''Myke Hurley:''' What bleed through? What do they mean by this? Bleed through. I don't know. Like, does it mean, does a five mean it doesn't bleed through?

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Um, that's correct.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Right.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Which, a paint marker, I don't know if you're reading that one, but, like, a paint marker is designed to bleed through.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Wait, I haven't seen what they gave the score for.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' So, they go through their whole system.

'''Myke Hurley:''' 4.8! Come on! Come on! It doesn't bleed through when you do on a canvas. It's an emoji.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' They did them all in a emoji notebook writing the quick brown fox mic. And the Molotov paint marker is at number 20. This slimmer, thinner, and more functional pen still requires shaking like a can of spray paint. And the strong scent, as well as the satisfying rattle, is quite fun. It's not an everyday pen.

'''Myke Hurley:''' I don't disagree with any of that. But also, the calligraphy pen is going to bleed through. And they gave it a five. Like, I'm sorry. Like, look. As I said, I don't have an issue with a lot of the stuff in the top ten. No. Because, like, the Stabulo Point is a really fun pen to use every day. There are multiple of these in my home. Oh, absolutely. Because they're great. Like, the same as the Muji pens. Like, also great. Like, I don't like Cross, but I know why it's in here. The Parker Classic. I can kind of get on board with that because, like, you know, it's fine. Like, 11, the B-roll handwriting pen. Fantastic. Fun pen to use every single day. You get real consistency. Like, I understand why there are so many, like, brush pens in this list. Yeah, they're fun. They're awesome. Because they're great to use. The same as the felt tips. Like, 24, Paper Mate Flare. Oh, so good to use. Like, if, you know, you're not necessarily like us. It's like, yeah, I get it. But I do have an issue when just, like, these random things come in here. Oh, come on. They put the BitCrystal at 32. I mean, come on.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' I mean, that's, yeah. So, anyway, it's fun to poke fun at these lists. I mean, we're not taking it too seriously because it's just, it doesn't, it starts, it stops making sense when you see some of these things and you just kind of go, yeah, whatever. Like, and it's penless after about five or ten rankings. Like, it's just, like, a crapshoot. Like, it's all, they're all the same at some point.

'''Myke Hurley:''' What's the difference between the Fisher Bullet Pen and the Fisher Space Pen?

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Nothing.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Right, because they're both on this list.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah, I know.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Fisher Bullets at 34 and Fisher Space Pen is, like, at 20 or something. Shape of the barrel, Mabel.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah, shape of the barrel. So, I don't know what they're doing.

'''Myke Hurley:''' So, there's some differences. It's not the exact same pen.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Same refill.

'''Myke Hurley:''' There's good stuff in here, for sure. It's not the worst list that we've seen by any stretch. Yeah. But it also has its own set of eccentricities.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yep. Yep. That make you, as pen addicts, you have to, you quite, we look at it differently. Like, you have to question why is a paint pen ahead of, like, the G2 and the Uniball Vision.

'''Myke Hurley:''' It reminds me of the Visionaire being filled with that ink.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah, the India ink.

'''Myke Hurley:''' The India ink, yeah.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Higgins. Higgins, India ink. All right. So, that's enough of that list. I thought that was, that was fun. It came up a bunch in my Twitter feed. I wanted to point it out. And then, I was like, do I even want to click this link? And, you know, I was going to click this link. And if I click the link, you know, I was going to have to talk about it. So, here we are.