Editing The Pen Addict 308/transcript (section)

== Kawekos ==


'''Myke Hurley:''' It's just like the weirdest set. It's like, it's so, it's like, because this isn't a thing, right? That like if you, you know, you can buy Kawekos and choose the nibs anyway. That's why I find it so weird, right? Yeah. So, if I buy a Kawekos AL Sport and add a gold nib to it, does it make it the Kawekos Sunrise AL Sport? Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's like, I don't get it. No, because you don't have the gold trim. I guess so. What's the trim though? Like what? On the cap? And the writing on the barrel.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' The stamping.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Oh, okay. That doesn't really come through in the photos. In the photos, it's exactly the same.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Because it's yellow on yellow. But I'm buying it for the yellow barrel. Like I said, if I was...

'''Myke Hurley:''' That yellow barrel, I love it. I love the look of that. But like, I just, I don't know why, what I think about the strange. Like, it just seems strange. I don't know.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. So, like I said, if I was local or walked into the shop or saw these at a pen show, I would buy a single pen. Like, I don't need the set. And I have a feeling that most people are going to buy, if they're interested in it, buy the one that appeals to them. It is kind of funny, the sunrise and sunset. Like, there's that much difference between the pen, you know? Yeah, I know. It's not really drastic.

'''Myke Hurley:''' It's so different. We had to give it a different net. No, you didn't. Like, but sure. You go, Cafe Co. You go. You do you. Do you, man. You do you.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' But I'm buying it for the barrel color. And I'm glad I can get the silver trim. If it was only the gold trim one, I wouldn't have bought it. That's true. So, I'm getting the silver trim. You'd be mad about that. Yeah. No, I wouldn't be mad about it. But, like, I didn't buy the orange one.

'''Myke Hurley:''' You'd be raging. Brad calls me up on the phone when these things happen, and he's so angry. No, that's not true.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' They did one in Spain last year or two years ago that was orange, and I didn't buy that one. So, I don't buy them all. But I really like this yellow. The last one I got was, like, two years ago they did. Someone in the chat room, I'll have to correct the name. It was the one in Hong Kong. It was, like, a light blue. Like, I don't know. They called it something island. Or it had some kind of tropical name to it. And I was really happy.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yellow's cool because you don't get yellow pens, right? Like, yellow is rare, and I don't know why. Maybe because, like, typically you wouldn't actually have yellow and gold together, right? Because they kind of clash. So, maybe because there's so many gold options, like, for pens that, like, typically people don't do it. But, yeah, I don't know, man. Like, I've got the Heliacula Sunset, right? The Canaleia. And that's got a bunch of yellow on it, but it's not all yellow. Like, this is, like, all... I don't have an all yellow pen. Yes. I think that's what I like about it. And I like that they chose, like, a real, like, vivid yellow. Like, it's, like, really bright. Yeah. So, it does look cool. I agree with you for that. But they really didn't need two models.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. I'm with you. I'm with you there. So, the blue one I was talking about, thanks to Critter in the chat room, was called Lagoon Blue. So, I knew it was something tropically sounding. So, I'll use the heck out of this pen. But the problem with Frank and Fanta Plumo is he always has cool stuff. And he did an ad a couple months ago on the pen act for that Conid with the orange finials, like the demonstrator barrel. And the ends were orange. And I've been dreaming about that pen ever since. So, I bought that one, too. So, I was like, well, if I'm spending $25 on the Kaweco, I might as well drop three bills on the Conid, right? That makes sense, right? That's how you do it?

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. Why not? Yeah.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' I mean, that's what you do. That's how these things work. It's like, I bought the Kaweco, and I threw in a Conid for good measure. It wasn't the other way around. So, it's silly that the $25 pen was the jumping off point to make me commit to the $300 pen that I've been fawning over for a while and could never decide on. So, I got that one coming. So, we'll be talking about that one more once I get it. You know, it should only take like a week or two. Frank's shipping is pretty fast. So, yeah. I did just go with the steel nib on the Conid. You can get titanium nibs on that. I didn't like my last Conid titanium nib, so I'm going to try steel. We'll see. We can go from there.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' But the pen itself is just, it's crazy. I should mark the occasion when it arrives, though, shouldn't I?

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yes, most definitely. There's only one way to do that, actually, it turns out. This is a really cool Kickstarter campaign from CW&T.

'''Myke Hurley:''' And it's, it really, it's, I love this. It's called The Time Since Launched. And it is a single-use count-up clock. So, it comes in this tube. I was thinking, it looks like an explosive device. Like... It's a little sketchy looking, yeah. Sure. Like, you, I don't know how they're going to ship these. Right? Like, I'm really intrigued to see if these things get through, like, international customs. Because it is a glass tube with a kind of sketchy clock in it, right? You get, like, the, you get to see, like, the circuit board of the clock and these two LCDs. And it has a pin on it. And when you pull out the pin, the clock starts counting up. But that's also very bomb-like. But anyway, this, this is, like, it's a cool little idea that they've obviously had and they put it into production, you know. And it is a beautiful kind of design object in a way, like, and an art piece. Because it's, you know, you pull out this pin and it starts counting up. And the idea being that you would want to maybe mark an important moment in time. And they've kind of, they say they've built it to last for 2,738 years. So it's no joke, this thing, right? This is a thing you will have for the rest of your life. And it will be like, oh, it was this amount of time since we did this. I love this project. But I haven't backed it. Because I have no idea what I would use it for. The two things I would want to use it for, I can't do. So, look, I sent this to Stephen and he agreed, like, something he wanted to do. We would have pulled the pin when RelayFM was founded. Right. Or I would pull the pin at the moment that me and Idina get married. But this thing doesn't ship until next year. So my feeling is I will probably buy one of these one day. I'm assuming that they keep it around. But I wouldn't want to buy this and then just sit and wait for it. Because it could possibly, it would probably be years before I would actually pull the pin. And maybe that's part of it, right? Like, maybe that's part of what makes it art in a way, right? It's like it sits and waits for you until that moment. But I would, I know what I'm like, right? Like, you know, I have like a bad habit of, I don't know, like, you know, if you like you fall over and you get like a scab. You know, like I'm bad with those, right? Like, I can't leave them alone, that kind of thing, right? Or, so I know that like, I would just, it would just be there. And one day I would just go over and just pull it a little bit. And then the pin comes out. And then it's like counting from the day that I made a dumb mistake.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. Yeah. So for those of you who are new to the show, CW and T are good friends of the podcast. Good friends of mine, Sayway and Taylor, out of New York. They're wonderful designers and they make my favorite pin, the pin type B, which I alluded to before. So that's how I got to be friends with them from their first Kickstarter years and years and years ago when they were making a barrel for a high tech C. And they've never been like directly in the pin business. They're more in the invention business. And they always come out with new and weird stuff. And I heard about this last year sometime. I think it was on a different podcast that they were on. And I follow them pretty closely and, you know, because I always want to know what they're up to, even if it's non-stationary related. And when I was doing these show notes last night, I hadn't put this in the doc yet. And I went back this morning. I was like, I'm going to add this into the show document. And I was shocked to see that you had added it there because it's not stationary related per se. But CW and T are such great stationary makers, great pin makers. And actually great designers. And actually good friends. They're incredible designers. I thought this was a cool thing to talk about. I do too. Because I agree with you, I think pretty much 100% what you said without going back and listening to it. I love this. I love the idea of it. I love the technical aspects of it. And I won't back it because I don't have any time to pull the pin. It would just show up and I'd go pop. And that thing would be running. I don't want it sitting around.

'''Myke Hurley:''' I can't have it sitting around, right? Because I would pull it. I would definitely pull it. But this is totally a thing that if this was available to buy right now, I would be buying one. And so as soon as we get married, somebody hands it to me and I pull it out. It's perfect. It's like a ceremony. But this isn't on them. This is not their fault that I can't get it for the time I want it. And I actually agree with them. They've had a lot of questions like, can we set it back to another time? I agree with them that no, that they're not going to build a way for that to happen.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Well, that's the art of it.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. The art, it reduces the whole point of having it. If you can set it for four years and then pull the pin, that's bad.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yep. Yep. I love it. I think it's a great project.

'''Myke Hurley:''' I hope they continue selling it. So I can think about maybe buying it when we have our first kid or something.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Exactly. That's what I was going to say. It's like, I'm not going to have another kid. I'm not going to get married again. I'm not going to start the pin addict business again. Those are the big things that have happened in my life. You know, the next big one, you know, I don't know what it would be. So it's like, I don't know. But it's cool. I love it. I wanted to talk about it just because I'm a big fan of what CWNT does. And I thought it was really cool.

'''Myke Hurley:''' I saw via our friend Thomas Hall. Thomas does a great job for me. When he finds something cool, he sends it to me. I really appreciate his work because he has a 100% batting average on this one. Every single time he sends me something, it's always something I like. And this is the Pelican M815 Metal Striped Special Edition. It is a, what is it? What do they call it? 815? Is that M815? That sounds bad.