Editing The Pen Addict 196/transcript (section)

== ASMR ==


'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yes. Yeah. And that's what the title of this article is fall into a deep trance watching calligraphy pens in motion. That's what it is.

'''Myke Hurley:''' ASMR.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' No.

'''Myke Hurley:''' It is a trend of video where it's basically, it's meant to be like an audio thing. Where people talk very quietly and they make sounds. It's a bit peculiar, but it's a whole big thing. And, uh, it's similar to that in that you, you are meant to just focus on the noises and the sounds and it's meant to be calming.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Oh, that's pretty cool.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. So yes, it can get a bit weird though, depending on what kind of ASMR videos you're looking for, but everyone has their thing, I guess.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yes, they do.

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'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah, so this was really cool when I pulled it up, and I saw, I was like, what are all these green pens? Oh, it's St. Patrick's Day. How cool is that? So, yeah, that's very cool. I love the Safari. I'm not going to lie. I recommend the Metropolitan as my number one beginner's fountain pen for other people to buy. I love the freaking Safari. Every time I pull that pen out and use it, it always brings a smile to my face. It's such an enjoyable pen to write with.

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'''Myke Hurley:''' Thank you so much to Pen Chalet for their support of this show and RelayFM.

'''Myke Hurley:''' So on the upgrade this week, I was making reference to, we were talking, I can't even remember how it came up, but I made reference to the way that my accent has changed over time and how I've become a little bit more transatlantic. I think some of the words that I say, some of the phrases that I use and the way that I say them has changed over time. And one of the ways that you can hear this is basically the only way that you can hear this big change is in this show, because it's the only show that I have that is multiple years old that is still readily available on the internet by choice. Because, and whilst looking at this, I realized that we missed another milestone. The show is now four years old as of February 9th. That's crazy. I don't know how we always miss these things.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Because we're busy, man. Yep. Once a week gets there fast and you don't realize what's happening.

'''Myke Hurley:''' So, we are now four years old, which is madness to me. And I thought as we were approaching episode 200 and we start to get a little bit soppy, one of the things that I thought we could look at this week was actually episode one.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' You said this to me and I was so excited. I was like, that's a great idea. Because I keep meaning to listen to it because we actually have a bunch of listeners recently, a bunch of new listeners that say, where should we start and what's our answer every time?

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah, I actually have a thought about that as well, about the where do we start thing. So, I wanted to talk about my experiences, or we could both obviously talk about our experiences of listening to episode one. A couple of the things that are really interesting to me right off the bat is there is like a 30-second ad right up front. I don't even ever remember doing that as a thing, to have pre-oral ads, because I tend to now actually not really like to do them. I don't do them. It was strange that we did do them, but that just shows like at that point, I kind of had no real idea of the business side.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' That was so strange when I hit the replay and that came in. I don't remember that at all.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Nope. I had no recollection of it. And then the first thing that you notice is to me, I sound really strange in a few different ways. My microphone isn't good, or as good. The environment that I'm in is not as good as the one that I'm in now for sound. Um, my voice is a, is a lot higher. I, my, my voice is a lot deeper now. And that is an affectation that I've developed over the time of doing this. So that's something that I know has changed the deepness of my voice. It's not just with age. It is a, how I like to sound thing. And that has now just changed the way that I talk. I hear many, uh, differences in the way that I pronounce certain words. Um, I skip way more consonants and stuff like that. Like, it's very strange to me. Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm. And the funny thing for me for you is you sound terrified.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Dude, I was, I was scared out of my mind. It took like two or three episodes to, to get out to shake that. Mm-hmm. Um, and I remember us talking about it afterwards about how, like, I was super nervous. I really was.

'''Myke Hurley:''' As the show went on, though, you, you did get more comfortable. Um, but talking about as the show went on, it took us six minutes to actually get to any topics.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Well, that sounds about normal.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. We're just, no, but it's not even fun stuff. We're just talking about why the show exists. We're doing a, a, a big thing about the fact that you work at JetPens. Uh, cause we used to have that little, um, we used to have a little thing at the end of the episodes when you were working at JetPens, which I'd forgotten about.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' A disclaimer. I completely, totally forgot about that. I mean, it's, four years is not that long, but when we recorded 200 episodes, I totally forgot there was a, not only was there a period of time that I was recording this show and I was working at JetPens, I forgot it started with episode one. I thought it picked up somewhere more down the line. I didn't realize it was right out the gate.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. There's so many things about it that are funny. Like you should think about the passing of time. So it was part of 70 decibels. When you listen to it, I was listening to it in Overcast. It has the very original artwork in it.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Right. Which is great. I love that artwork. I know. Aaron Manke did that for us, uh, before he got, before he got, uh, famous and not talking to us anymore now. Yeah. Yeah. Now he's a superstar and he doesn't have time for the little people anymore. I know.

'''Myke Hurley:''' There was a time where he was designing my artwork. Not anymore. Uh, although I, I have to say, I like our new artwork the most. Oh yeah, for sure. I mean, I know that you do. Obviously I use it everywhere. Yeah. We decided to, to kind of co-op the artwork, right? Oh, I totally whore that thing out. Yeah. That was funny. It was like, this is the artwork that Frank's worked on. It's like, uh, can I use that everywhere? I was like, yeah, man. I think it makes sense to me now, now looking that we've done this, that it does make sense to share the branding between the two. And we just had never done that before. But I think that that is a smart business move.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' For this, for this, it works.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. I wouldn't do it for anything else. Yes.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' We do. And that's a lot of, of this show. That's how different this show is and how it's always been. Um, it, it works differently than other podcasts and other websites and other, other joint efforts and things like that. It's a very, very different. And, um, we, we, we run it. We see that all the time.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. Well, like, you know, just looking at my approach to the way that this show is and the fact that it is the only thing that I've stuck with. Everything else has, has gone by the wayside, has gone through iterations, has been rebranded, but not the pen addict. Like it's on its third network. Like I will, I just will never let it go. Like, I will never let you go. You're stuck with me forever. Yep. Um, same here. Neither of us are confident during this episode. You can tell, like we're not used to each other. The jokes are a little bit more awkward. Like me and you had had probably two conversations like on the phone before this, you know?

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. We were definitely both like, um, like on the straight and narrow, if you will. Yeah.