Editing The Pen Addict 121/transcript (section)

== Colors ==


'''Brad Dowdy:''' So, yeah, that's good. So you got one of each color.

'''Patrick Rhone:''' Oh, really?

'''Brad Dowdy:''' So there's, there's actually, there's six colors. There's only six exterior colors available. Oh, okay. And so if you have six that are not, uh, not a duplicate, you have all of the unexposed colors. So the, the 36 that you mentioned. Oh, that's cool.

'''Myke Hurley:''' The 36 is the different amount of combinations that you can see. Ah, okay. I gotcha. So you got the best one in 36. Yeah. So, wow.

'''Patrick Rhone:''' And I haven't even opened the other package yet. So what we can reasonably surmise from that is that out of that other package that I haven't opened, almost every one of those inside will be a duplicate. Okay. Yes. Yeah. Oh, that is so awesome.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. So there's, so looking at the stats, there's, it's a 60,000 book print run and 10,000 of each of those six colors. Oh, that's awesome. Sorry.

'''Patrick Rhone:''' You're hearing me putting them back into the package and being very, very kind of careful with them.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Pete Dennison in the chat room said you had a bingo. So, yeah. Oh, that is awesome. So, Myke.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Hello.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Since you don't have these yet, I want to talk to you about the meta level of this edition. What are your thoughts of this edition? Just how they chose to go about doing this? Do you have any thoughts on that? Because there's a lot of chatter about this edition, which is good for field notes. I mean, I think it's, you know, to get people talking, whether it's good or bad is, I'm okay with that.

'''Myke Hurley:''' So, I'm upset that I know all about them because the whole point of them is you're not, you know, you don't want to know about them. That's the point. Right. Because now when I receive them, I know I'm just getting six neon books, right? Right. Which isn't as fun as, oh, what's it going to be? Because I was really excited. But the amount of time that's lapsed. I'm sorry. See? No, but the amount of time that's lapsed, it's basically, with the circle that I run in, impossible for me to not see it. Right? I have seen them. I know what they all look like. I know what the colors look like. But I think the colors look really fun.

'''Myke Hurley:''' After having seen them, I bought another set or two because I like them. I think they look like a lot of fun.

'''Myke Hurley:''' I've liked sort of the bright colors in the past, but there's never been colors as bright as this. So, I kind of like that. I think that looks pretty cool.

'''Myke Hurley:''' As an idea, I mean, it's an... So, this is definitely... With the way that they've been going recently, the guys and girls at Field Notes have been going hyper-ambitious.

'''Myke Hurley:''' And we've spoken about this. And Brad, I know a problem that you'd had with some of the more recent editions is it was like being ambitious for ambitiousness sake. Like, just, what's the next crazy thing we can do? So, at least this one is going back to the idea of it being just a nice idea and some just nice colored books. So, that's kind of... So, I'm like, I welcome that change back to like a fun idea as opposed to just, I don't know, trying to make them out of titanium or something. So, my feeling... Don't put it past them. Yeah, really. I'm going to guess how I think that you feel, Brad.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Okay.

'''Myke Hurley:''' So, I think that, for one, you're going to be super happy about the fact that we're just back to there being notebooks again. I know that you like that there's six. I know that. And I know that you love the neon colors.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Ding, ding, ding. Yeah. There you go.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' So, across the board. This is the best edition since Drink Local for me. Yeah.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Because I knew that you loved the Drink Local because there was six. And I know that you love the bright colors anyway.

'''Myke Hurley:''' So, yeah. I'm pleased. Oh, yeah.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' I'm super happy with this edition just as the way it looks and be cool to use them edition. Just like the Drink Local was. They did the six different colored covers.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' The cool covers. Patrick, these covers remind me a lot of the Drink Local edition. They're that same kind of cover that you're talking about. Same with the Expedition, too.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Oh, I hoped that that was going to be the case when Pat was describing it. Because that's the first I've heard that the covers had an interest in texture. Yeah.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' They're very similar to the Drink Local, in my opinion. Good. They have that feel to them. Kind of that mad.

'''Patrick Rhone:''' And what's interesting is that I haven't opened up the Drink Locals. Yeah. Because the deal with those was that there were two different versions of them, right? Yep. You had a six-pack. And you could order one of each, right? Yep. And so instead of ordering, say, you know, I don't know, 12 field notes, whatever it would take for me to do what I normally do, I only ordered the two that time. And I haven't opened them at all. Yep. So I didn't know that these covers had, or that those covers had that similar sort of feel.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yep. Yep. So just as a field notes edition, I think it's great. I'm a huge fan of it. And Myke, you know me well. We've been doing this long enough. You knew where I was going to come down on this. I'm very happy with the colors. I like the six different neon colors. What I wanted to talk about was the collectability aspect of it and some of the questions and concerns that came up in the field notes group when they announced this. There was kind of a running theme. Some people were pretty hacked off, honestly. And I didn't really understand why. And I still don't. But they didn't like that they're going to have to chase colors, if you will. But, and actually some people felt that, not the same group of people, but then another group of people felt that field notes was actually trolling the collectors by doing this. And I've kind of gotten, you know, my mindset's changed over the past six months to a year. I don't feel like I'm that collector guy anymore. I feel like I'm more of a user guy. So I don't look at it from that collectability point of view. If I did, I wouldn't have had Aaron Draplin sign the cover of my Butcher Orange that I've been using. So the collectability thing doesn't concern me. But as far as trolling, I don't think so. I think they just legitimately had a good idea to come out. You know, it was kind of maybe a nod to the collector aspect of it. Okay. We realize there's people that actually collect these things. We can do something a little bit neat. If they were trolling us, they would have made this black cover, sealed the books up, and when you open them up, they were stark white with no printing and white paper in them. You would have been trolled then if you all got a blank notebook. That would have been trolling you. What I think they should have done is I think they should have taken it further. I think, you know, one of the colors should have only had a 1,000 print run.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' One of the colors should have had a 5,000 print run.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' One of the colors should have had a 10,000 print run. And so on to get your 60,000 print run. I think then they would have had a lot of people ticked off. But it would have been good because people would be chasing these things down. You know, like, you know, open up a pack of baseball cards or a Pokemon. You know, got to catch them all kind of thing, which we've always talked about with the field notes books. You're never going to be able to get them all. So that makes me think that they weren't trying to troll collectors by the way that they implemented this edition. It's very easy to get all six colors. Maybe you get your two subscription packs and you don't get all one of each of the colors like Patrick just did. You know, which is awesome. And I know a lot of people did. But, you know, there's a tradability aspect. And, you know, people are happy to swap out books of their favorite color since none are more rare than other ones. But I would have liked to see them really hammer the collector's part. And they would have sold off this edition, like, immediately for people chasing it. So I don't know. I don't have a problem at all with how they handled this edition. I love the notebook. The memo books came out great. I'm going to use the heck out of these. Like I did, Drink Local's been the one I've used the most recently. So this will be right up there. And I thought they did a really good job. One question I have or one thought. So Field Notes has always been in physical retail shops. I don't know that these will actually sell that well in physical retail shops. Because you're usually, you're not selling them to people who necessarily know what Field Notes is. They're coming to buy a memo book. They're going to see a black box of books right next to, like, the Craft Brown and, you know, maybe some past editions like Shelterwood or whatever. They're probably not going to sell. But I guess they probably really don't care. It'll sell out soon enough. It was a good enough edition to where they'll sell the heck out of these. So those are my...

'''Myke Hurley:''' I feel like it would take them a while to sell out of these ones, though.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Because people have to kind of come across them in, I think, an unboxed form for them to sell out.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah, that's kind of my point about the retail displays and stuff like that.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Because I think that they typically tend to sell out when they resonate with people outside of the pen and paper community. So, like, you know, the Raven's Wing or, you know, Night Shy. Shelterwood. Yeah. Yeah. The ones that are like, whoa, kind of, what is this? And people might think that about these ones. I mean, I bet the Gradient one, what was that called?

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Cold Horizon.