Editing The Pen Addict 89/transcript (section)

== Ogami Notebooks ==


'''Brad Dowdy:''' What's Ogami notebooks. I know a little bit about this, but you've been kind of driving this one here.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yes. So we had, so yeah, what do you know about these things?

'''Brad Dowdy:''' It's stone paper, right? That's all I remember.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yes. So we had a listener contact us, Alexander Putz, got in contact to say that he'd found these really interesting notebooks and that he wanted to send them to us. So basically what we've got is, so I have them here, Brad, and I'm putting yours in the post. Because I told him to send them both to me and then I would send yours on to you.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Right. That's what he told me he was going to do. Because he's in Europe somewhere, right? Yeah.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Because I said, you know, let's save you some money rather than, you know, his books. Right. So I'll read from the back. Ogami uses Repap, I don't really know what that means, in all the product lines. Oh, here we go. Repap is made up of 80% calcium carbonate and a small percentage, 20% from non-toxin resins. The calcium carbonate present in Repap comes from limestone recovered from caves and used in the creating Repap, a resistant and durable as well as waterproof paper. A paper that is also soft, smooth and bright white. One of the strangest notebook products I've ever received. So we have, I have a couple of different sizes and I've got the smaller size, the pocket size. Um, like this is like a field note size one. Okay.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Okay. So they don't feel like stone. I would hope not. But they feel like stone.

'''Myke Hurley:''' So it feels like paper, but you know how like that feeling you get when you rub stones together? Mm-hmm. And, oh, actually no. Hmm. You've been to the beach, right? Have you ever been to a pebble beach? No. So we get these a lot in the UK. And there's a really interesting thing. When stones get wet, um, they, they, they give off this like strange feeling like a, like there's a film covering the stone. Mm-hmm. And this obviously is the breakdown of sand and stuff. Right. It kind of feels like that a little bit. Like the paper is kind of, it's smooth, but there's a definite texture that you can't put your finger on. It's like a rough texture. Um, and when you sort of using the pages, they rub together in a strange way. Like there's an awful lot of resistance between the pages. Okay. Huh. And what you're left with is a paper that feels like it's glossy, but isn't shiny.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Okay. Which is really strange. So it has the feeling of like magazine paper, but it doesn't shine. Okay.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Interesting. Yeah. Because the, the thing that threw me off the most about it was not the stone in the makeup of the paper, but that it's waterproof on top of that.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. I haven't tested the waterproofness of it.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' That just, that seems like, I don't know. Interesting. There's a lot, a lot going on there because I've had a, a guest review of stone paper on the pen addict before. And, um, I've never actually tried it myself, but you know, stone paper has been around for a few years now is when I started seeing it. Um, and there's some interesting, the guy that did the review on my blog is for the Oxford stone paper notebook. Um, I don't know if it talks about, yeah, it talks about it being strong, durable, and waterproof. That's interesting. That's interesting. And he also lifted on fire. It's kind of a fireproof. Why don't you try that real quick?

'''Myke Hurley:''' Nope.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' No. Okay.

'''Myke Hurley:''' This reminds me of the expedition edition.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. And it's tear proof as well. So that's interesting. So how does it handle? Yeah. How does it feel when you write on it?

'''Myke Hurley:''' So it doesn't tear like I'm trying to tear it right now. And so, well, it does if you get it right, you know, but it's that it doesn't rip like you have to like really sort of go for it to tear it. Right. Um, it's really interesting. Interesting. Like, interesting to the point where I'm like, hmm. Okay. Hmm. So basically I wrote down my notes whilst writing on the paper itself. So I will write, I will read to you what I was writing down. Slow drying time. Not incredibly slow, but slow, as you'd expect. It leaves an interesting line on the page. Um, and what I meant by that is like the way that pens feel on this paper is interesting. And the way that the ink dries is unlike other pens. So when I was writing with fountain pens, I was writing with a Pelican, my Pelican. And the way that it dries, it doesn't look like the way it dries in other paper. It's like, it's kind of like drawn on it and it just stays there. It doesn't get absorbed.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Hmm. Yeah. I can see that, I guess, happening because that's how the expedition paper was, right? It would never.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. It's super. No, no, no. I don't mean it's not drying. When it dries, it's like, it's like, it doesn't look like any ink has been absorbed. It looks like it's just dried in place. Gotcha. But it's dry.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Oh yeah. That's weird.

'''Myke Hurley:''' You know, obviously it's not, you know, it's absorbed by the paper in as such that, you know, there's not ink or words all over the place. But when it dries, there's no feathering, nothing. You just write on it and it dries. Hmm. So it's like kind of writing with a permanent marker on plastic.

'''Myke Hurley:''' I gotcha. It doesn't get absorbed. It just will stay there. The ink drying is good, all things considered. Like for time, to be honest. It doesn't dry instantly, but it dries pretty quickly. But the way it looks is incredible. Fountain pens, it feels like you're writing on glass. It's amazing. So smooth. And I've never had the Retro 51 perform so well. Really? It's like a different pen. That's crazy. The Autographic liner really doesn't work.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah, I could kind of see that.

'''Myke Hurley:''' To the point where I wrote on this yesterday, still smudges.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Oh my goodness.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' But the fountain pens don't.

'''Myke Hurley:''' You have to really go at it. I mean, after a certain amount of time. You have to really go at it. So I can go to my ink yesterday and really rub it and it will smudge, the fountain pen ink. But the Autographic liner, if I just touch it, the ink comes off. It's a mess. Interesting. So that's, you know, that's not ideal. But just don't write under the Autographic liner. Like if I really sort of rub on this, the ink will smudge. But it kind of will do that with paper as well, like for fountain pen ink. If you really, you know, it's going to do something weird anyway.