Editing The Pen Addict 660/transcript (section)

== Transition to blue and other colors in the rainbow spectrum ==

* Blue, indigo, and violet. Now we have a problem. Right? Especially if you look up any chart of the expectation of the rainbow or like a Roy G. Biv chart that your kids might learn in school. What color do you think blue is expected to be in Roy G. Biv when you're looking at these images? So my first thought was all of the quote boring blue slash school blue type inks that everyone loves to hate or at least is bored of. And that's kind of what I think of when I think of that blue. And I put down two colors and then rapidly said, screw this. There's too many. I can't figure out which one of these I want to pick.
* So I would say, actually, there's one I didn't even put on the list. I totally should have. I'll start with Pelican Edelstein Sapphire, which is a nice straight up blue. Ackerman No. 3 Blau, which is also blue. And then Franklin Kristoff's Blue 72. It's what we ink up their testers with. It is a nice, solid blue. But there is just so many in this range that it's hard to pick one.
* There's just too many. Before I went into this category, I was like, oh, I'm just going to pick, you know, Kaweco Royal Blue or something like really straightforward. But like all the charts I was looking at, I was like, okay, let me look at these. You know, if I just Google Roy G. Biv, you know, what are they going to tell me blue should look like? Because there's indigo right coming up next. And I was like, what is their differentiator here? And most of them put like almost like a turquoise or cyan type of color in for the blue. So I went that route, which I think is good that we did something a little bit different here. Because like Sapphire, I thought about, but like I don't, that almost fits in between these of the blue and indigo. Like this is really complicated. This is where you and I sit at a bar one night and argue about this for like an hour on what's right. And I don't think there is a right. So it's a good thing I have my, I don't even know how many bajillion color rings in front of me that I can pull out the turquoise section. Because I never think of turquoise as blue. I think of turquoise as yet another color. And a few favorites kind of jumped out at me.
* Lamy turquoise slash Pacific Ocean Blue. That one actually is the same ink. Unlike Petrol and Lamy Dark Lilac, the two versions. I also really like Inky Barra Sky Blue. Okay.
* Hold on. There's probably like 800 more of these that like are so good. Well, I'll tell you exactly what we picked. We picked Lamy Turquoise because it's just a good straight up, straight down the middle turquoise. And Roaring Klingner Blue Mare. That's a good one too. I think might be slightly brighter than Lamy Turquoise. Or maybe it has a little more depth to it or something like that. It's slightly different. Slightly different. And if you like a slightly drier ink, not super dry, but just a wee bit slightly drier. Both Kaweco Turquoise and Caran d'Ache's Hypnotic Turquoise, also very good turquoise-y. But it's... God, there's so many in here. Yeah. Too many to pick, really. So as we head into these last two colors, do you think Gustavo is regretting asking us this question? Have we solved any problems yet? I don't know. But the next two, because... Well, the next one with Indigo, I have a different version of Indigo in my head than apparently what the Roy G. Biv version of Indigo was. So I pivoted pretty quickly as soon as I looked it up in Google. Yep. And this is a legitimate problem, is deciding what color Indigo is. So why don't you go ahead with what your thoughts were, and then I'll back it up with mine. Okay. So in my head, originally, without looking at Google, when I think of Indigo, I think of blue jeans and a kind of a denim-y color. And so I was going to go that route, but I thought, I don't think that's what they meant. So I looked it up in Google and found that it's a bit more of a blurple, like a brighter blurple. So that's the route I went. So my current favorite blurple is the Tasha Hiroshige Ruri. It is just such a, almost electric, but not in a bright way. It's just such a really rich blurple color. I'm also a big fan of Colorverse Stars and Stripes and Monteverde, I don't know how to say this word, chariot? Yeah, I don't know. Charoit? It's a gem. It's a gemstone. It's a gemstone. That's all I know. And then Robert Oster's Dragon Knight, Dying My Billberries, a great go-to. And then just for funsies, Straits Pens Happy Accident Lilac. Yeah, classic, classic naming there from Straits Pens. So- Absolutely. I took indigo as more of blue, right? So the more denim-y stuff. I think when we were discussing this and doing a little bit of Wisdom of the Crowds, I think more people, when you say indigo, think about it how you would think. And I agree with you completely. Like, that's what I would think.
* Getting into, like, this, like, Bilberry came up a lot, right? Diamond Bilberry. It's like a blurple. This was the least enjoyable for me to decide because I couldn't decide because I was just having a mental battle over what is indigo. So we'll probably get some feedback on this. This is the color I'd actually want some feedback. But I went with Diamond Oxford Blue. It's a denim color, right? I love Oxford Blue. It's so good. It's a brilliant color. I don't, I'm not convinced that it's right or not. I just really don't know what this, when we're trying to match these colors up. The last one, Violet, I thought was easier. It's pretty straightforward. It's kind of a bright purple, right? It's kind of your straightforward middle of the road, not too dark, not too rosy purples, not too magenta-y. So what do you think about Violets? Oh, man. Purple. Purple. Between blues and purples, those are my two favorite colors that I have way too many colors of. And it's also really hard to organize because sometimes it leans a little too blue and sometimes it leans a little too red.
* But I have a lot in this category. So I liked Gervon's Violette Pensée, Diamond Lavender, Visconti Purple, which is really hard to find. I think they've stopped making that years ago, but it's a perfect purple for me. Diamond Majestic Purple. Aquerman No. 13 Simpliacy's Violet. And then just for a little something different, Diamond Kong Girls, because that's a nice rich purple too. I haven't seen that one. I'll have to take a look at that one. So the one thing I wanted to avoid here, and you did too, is the Imperial Purple color, which I love. Yes. But that is so hot. Like it's really eye-searing purple, but it's beautiful, right? Yeah. So I went back to the stock colors for this Pelican 4001 Violet, just like right in the middle, you know, hitting the V in violet, I think, there for the purples and the rainbow. And then a Roshizuku Shikibu, I thought was a pretty good mid-range purple. Oh, the Murasaki? No.
* It's different. I think I wrote down Shikibu. Did I write that down wrong? Yeah, Murasaki Shikibu. Yeah, Murasaki Shikibu. Yeah. So yeah, that's just a really good mid-range purple with not a lot else going on. So there you have it. Let us know. This is the longest question we'll do today without a doubt. And that's why I wanted to do this first, because if I tried to do this at the end, we would never finish. But this is a tough question. And this is a challenge I think we could put forth to a lot of people to see if they could come up with their own version of what a Roy G. Biv colorway would look like for each of these colors and try to get something smack in the middle, you know, without too much going on. You know, no sheen, no shading, definitely no shimmer, things like that. So it was a fun challenge to try to attack here for Gustavo. I'm not sure how well we did, even after the fact, because that's how hard of a time I had with this. So I appreciate it. Yeah, I also learned that I don't know what the true Roy G. Biv colors really are, because I have different colors in my head than what Google said. Not that Google agreed with each other either. Yeah, like I would skip indigo every time. I was like, well, well, okay, that's just, what are we doing here? All right, let's move on. The next one via Daniel.