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== Introduction of Sailor pens == '''Brad Dowdy:''' Who wants that? Okay. Let's talk about Sailor. '''Myke Hurley:''' All right. So. I want you to just read what you've written in our show document. '''Brad Dowdy:''' How about you read what I wrote in the show document? All right. '''Myke Hurley:''' So we have a link. I'll read what you wrote in the show document. We have a link here. So it says, new Sailor Jellyfish. And there is a link. This is the new Sailor Pen 1911 overseas exclusive. 1911 S, the small one. And it is a, it's called the Jellyfish release or line or whatever. It consists of five different 1911s. They are all single color demonstrators. They have different names. The red one is called Japanese Sea Nettle. The kind of, there's like an amber color one called the Fried Egg Jellyfish. Yeah. There is a purpley one called Violet Jellyfish. A blue one called Freshwater. And a green one called A One. And they're all available. Brad wrote in our show document, Imagine getting to make everything that comes to mind. '''Myke Hurley:''' Savage. Savage. This is absolute. That is, I read it this morning and that was all that came to mind. Just savage. That is like a viscerating cut into the core. '''Brad Dowdy:''' So let me explain this a little bit because like, that's my initial reaction, but I'm going to, I'm going to get to a point and we'll see if you agree or disagree. I actually have a little bit of a dissertation here. Shocker. I know. Right. All right. So yes, you explained these well. The first thing I see when I, when I see this is like, literally, didn't we just do this like one or two weeks ago? Right. The amount of product. And this is like the mainline sailor, right? This is through sailor. These are not store exclusives. These are like the, you know, different regional, you know, releases, things like that. So we just did that with the tequila stuff, like literally like two weeks ago, a series of five, all these colors, like mix and match pulling parts from the shelf, whatever. This one, um, the first thing I just rolled my eyes when I looked at this, right? Because they just did the compass, um, two years ago, which is the 1911 steel nib pen. And they just did them in the basic translucent barrel colors, like literally this pen, but with steel nibs between like thinking of all this and thinking of sailor in the big picture. All I could think about is how many pens must they sell to just be able to literally make anything that comes to mind. The first thing that comes to mind goes into production over and over and over and over again. And then all I could think about is they must sell a lot of freaking pens for this to be their design ideas, right? For the amount of product they create, they must absolutely sell a crap ton of pens. And that's impressive to me. So I'm actually saying that my contrary to your, um, your savage comment, I'm actually commending them on the amount that they make because it does not make any logical sense from any business standpoint, unless you are selling an absolute enormous amount of pens and they must like, I am, I'm kind of impressed that they can just do this on a weekly basis. Like we don't get like a quarterly single pen release from them and they're done. Like we get that and then we get a monthly release and then we get a weekly release and then we get a daily release. Like if it's a day that ends in Y, sailor has released a new pen. And all I can think about is I'm, I'm not like mad about this. I'm more impressed because if I think of it this way, that they just must sell so many pens and then you contrast them. That statement I made was twofold. Imagine getting to make everything that comes to mind. When you take that statement applied to sailor and then apply that statement to Lamy, it's the exact opposite, right? Lamy is, you know, disciplined and refined. And guess who's yelling at them all the time to make more pens that I want? Me, right? So I, I'm literally yelling at Lamy to be more like sailor while on the, on the other hand, like half time, half the time making fun of sailor for it's like it make it stop, make it stop at some point, but they don't. And it's kind of impressive. So like I am all in on sailor, Myke, making literally a pen a day for the next five years. All right. Let's just go. Let's go sailor. Like pedal to the metal, make everything that comes to mind. And that's where we're at right now with sailor. And you know what? Like, I'm not going to buy any of the tequila ones from last week. I'm not going to buy any of these, you know, but I don't care. Like it's cool. They must be selling an absolute metric ton of pens to release the amount of pens that they do. And like, I just think about that in, in context of me yelling at Lamy to, Hey, give me my color translucent Vista and never getting it, even though they're kind of like tease a little part here, a little part there that, you know, I just want more from Lamy. It was like, well, sailor's doing that for me. Right. Sailor's doing exactly what I want to see. So props to sailor. So there you go. It is not exactly savage, Myke. I don't know if that blew your mind or not, but like I have come 180 degrees around on sailor. Make literally everything all day long. If they can sell it, it's only impressive. If they can move this much product, shout out props to them. '''Myke Hurley:''' I mean, I agree with you. All right. I do. And, and I agree with the idea of like, must be nice, right? Like to be able to produce at that level. '''Brad Dowdy:''' Like, yeah. So I think about it for myself and I was thinking about it for you too. Like we will spend 18 months on a single notebook. '''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. '''Brad Dowdy:''' Right. To get it correct and get it to market and to be happy with the thing that we sell. So sailor, like someone probably like type something in Slack. Hey, what about these jellyfish ones? Cool. Can we do five? Yeah. Easy. Do you want 10? No, five's good. All right. Done. Send it to production. '''Myke Hurley:''' Because they just know how to do it. Right. Yeah. They got it all taken care of. They have their production. They know the quality. Like they, you know, it's just like, it's a well-oiled machine, which is just not a thing that me or you have right now. '''Brad Dowdy:''' Right. Right. So I am, I am impressed with what sailor's doing, even though like it's a lot, like it's, I am, I have come completely around. '''Myke Hurley:''' These pens are not particularly impressive, right? Like they're fine. '''Brad Dowdy:''' People are going to like them. Yeah. Like my downside to these pens is like, you just told me I could buy this pen with a steel nib for $30, like two years ago. And now this one's going to be, I didn't look at what's the current 1911 S price is probably two, is it two 80 or three 20? I forget. So yeah, like it's a very, but their, their golden, their basic golden pins, I think start at two 80 without me looking. So I'd have to verify, but yeah. Like you just told me like two years ago, Hey, here's a lime green 1911 looking barrel with a steel nib and it's like 30, $35. I was like, yeah. What are you referring to? It's called the sailor compass. '''Myke Hurley:''' Right. '''Brad Dowdy:''' So like, this is fair. This is kind of the same pen just with the 14 K nib for the 1911 S model. And I think it's, I'll have to look up the price. I'm too busy rambling to look it up, but they're like two 80. I think the 1911 S starting price. Hell, I'll look it up now. 1911 S. '''Myke Hurley:''' I remember this pen. And it had like, so it's like slightly different, right? Like the bands are different or in the middle, that kind of stuff. '''Brad Dowdy:''' Like it's definitely less detailed. Right. But it's not that far different. '''Brad Dowdy:''' So let's see. So we got to find, so here's the other problem. The 1911 S starts at two 80 for the new models. You can still find the old price was two 20. So, but the standard ones now go for two 80. So these, I'm assuming these are two 80 without looking them up. So anyway. But yeah, shout out sailor. It was not savage. And it's more being, me being like, man, it must be nice. And I'm kind of impressed with that.
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