Editing The Pen Addict 464/transcript (section)

== Pen Usage Discussion ==


'''Myke:''' Oh, that's a nice match.

'''Brad:''' Yeah, because I was thinking it's like... Red, red. Oh, yeah, that's red, red.

'''Myke:''' Yeah, it's like red, red. Because I was thinking the Kona Snow is about the Kona coffee plant, which is red, right? Yes. And so I thought that there was an interesting mixture between Kona Snow with red. So, yeah. I can't say the actual name of this ink. It's like Ordogi Burrus or something like that I'm going to go with. But that is translated in English to Devilish Red.

'''Brad:''' Love it. That is a bright red. It's bright. It's honestly, for all the... You think reds are like a simple basic color? Reds is a very challenging fountain color. This looks like a knockout.

'''Myke:''' So, I have three of the Pannonia inks now. And they all swatch so much brighter than use. Oh, interesting. So, I have the pink one that you have. Yep. Cotton candy. Was it Vata Cucur? Yes. And I also have a green one, but I don't remember the name of that one off the top of my head. And I found of all three of them that in use, the color is more faded or washed out a little bit. Interesting. Than the Swatchang. So. Very interesting. You know, like the cotton candy one, it is not as bright, say, as like Califolia and Drenopole.

'''Brad:''' Oh, yeah. Like, I don't even think those are comparable.

'''Myke:''' No. But like, I don't know. I just thought, I thought that they would end up looking brighter than they do. I like the colors, but it's really, it's just proving the same thing for me that there always is, which is swatching isn't really that helpful, I think. Yeah. I find, like, you get a difference in color a lot of the time. And especially if there's any effect to the ink, it's significantly magnified in swatching. I feel like this is actually similar to sound tests for keyboards. You've got to use it as like a comparison between other products as opposed to what is it actually going to be like. You know, like, you can, because every keyboard itself has a different sound and that changes depending on the switches you put in, the environment that you're in, the keycaps. Like, it's so variable. And I find similarly for swatching. Like, what are you putting it on? How much do you use? It's a variable. So, it's kind of useful as a baseline to compare ink to ink. But I don't think you're going to get, you can't say like, oh, if it looks like this on a swatch, it's going to look like this coming out of a pen. And I don't find that to be the case myself.

'''Brad:''' That's correct. And that's one thing that especially newer fountain pen users need to think about when they're purchasing inks, that the swab, there's so many variables in there or the swatch, how it's done. You know, is it done with cotton? Is it done with a brush? Is it done with a folded nib? Is it done with a glass dip nib? And all of those things change the properties of the ink. So, what you're using a swatch for is kind of get a general information of the ink and its properties. And especially like when you see how much, how wet, like how much ink you put on the sample, you know, you might get more sheen or more shading or things like that. But the real test is always going to be a nib test, a traditional fountain pen nib test. And that's always more difficult because it's a lot easier to clean all those other things than, you know, swapping out fountain pen inks all the time, even dipping them. You know, you got to have extra cleaning in the feed. So, that's always the true test is from a nib. But the samples like give you a good idea of what to expect, but the real test is from the nib.

'''Myke:''' Yep. Especially because as well then like different nibs produce different like, you know, results.

'''Brad:''' Yeah. Yeah. So, like a stub nib is really going to spread the ink thin, right? It's basically just, you know, like an edge, like dragging the ink, where if you have a medium nib with a rounded tip on there, that's liable to let the ink pool slightly more. So, you might get different features from one than you do the other, like more sheen from medium nib and more shading from a stub nib. So, yeah, a whole lot of things to think about when you're looking at inks and nibs and samples and accurate color. So, yeah, it's fun. That's why we do this.

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'''Myke:''' What you got, Brad?

'''Brad:''' I have gone shopping at Pen Chalet, Myke. And actually, two of the things that I purchased are from this list, and they are currently active on this list. One being the Mayora Impronte Oversize. It's a pen that has been on my radar for a while that's kind of a unique shape that I was curious about to see how it would work, and I think it would make for a good review pen. So I bought one of those. It's at a really, really good price. I bought the bright blue kind of flecked one. So I'm anxious to try that. I purchased that. Then I also purchased the Cross ATX fountain pen. Pro tip. So this is the pen we've talked about a bunch of times, and it's one I'm very, very anxious to view, and it looks awesome. But pro tip with Cross, which I did not realize, it does not ship with the converter, Myke. You have to buy a converter. And Cross converters are proprietary. So Cross, bad job there.

'''Myke:''' Oh, come on. That's bad in two ways. Yeah.

'''Brad:''' So they send these little dinky cartridges with it. And I opened it up, and I was like, there is no converter here. And it's like super nice packaging, super nice pen. And like the original retail price of it's 100 bucks. That should come with a converter. I'm sorry.

'''Myke:''' At least it does come with the cartridges, though. And I know that's not ideal, but it would suck if it arrived and you couldn't use it at old, but you want to be able to use it with the ink that you choose.

'''Brad:''' But I'm very happy with the pen itself. Now I just need to get a converter because I'm not sticking one of those just basic black cartridges in there. Last thing, there's a secret in here, Myke. And this is something that Ron does from time to time. Platinum 3776, celluloid.

'''Myke:''' Look at that price, Brad.

'''Brad:''' In the list, like these are not pens for me, right? Like I don't need these pens, but people love these pens. I think Adina might have one of the like the cherry koi. What I forget? Sakura. I forget which one they call it. This is in that same type of series. Not that color. These are a couple of different colors. I don't know the color names.

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'''Brad:''' So Myke, you were missing something in the list of what you're currently using. And I'm a little bit shocked that you don't have edible notepads in the list of what you're using. What is wrong with you? Why don't you have like edible notepads for your daily use?