Editing The Pen Addict 364/transcript (section)

== CW&T Product Launch ==


'''Brad Dowdy:''' I'm, I've been liking it a lot. So, the micro gel talk puts us right into our next topic, which I can't not mention. It's kind of on brand for me. And that's anything CW&T does, who I love. And they just released their pen type C. Did you see this launch on Kickstarter recently? Yeah, I totally did. Now, looking at this pen and knowing sort of the age range you are, do you remember seeing pens like this when you were younger? And like, I don't know, they weren't even like at stationary shops. They were more like a gift shop pen, right? Where it had this flip over rail that protects like the tip of the pen. Do you recall ever seeing like that when you were growing up?

'''Myke Madison:''' So, that pen actually has come back. And it's called the Snappy. Snappy. Snappy. Yeah, here. I'll put it in the show notes. Yeah. Really quick. There's a link for you. Gotcha. Yeah, it's called the Snappy. And yeah, I definitely had a bunch of those, you know, around the house growing up, that sort of thing. Yeah. And it's a, it's a really cool idea. And I mean, this is, this pen type C seems like a titanium, like fancy version of the old

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Snappy. Right. So, that's what this is. It's like the fancy version of this pen that used to exist. And I'm sitting here fidgeting with it, with it in my hands. I have a couple of older prototypes. One, I think I've probably had for two years. They just sent it to me randomly a long time ago. And I, no joke, I've probably had it for two years and I keep it in my desk and, you know, I've taken it out here and there. And the original one that I have fit a D1 refill. And then they sent me a modified one that was just the, the original one was the titanium. The modified one, they just sent me a 3D printed model of a change size so they could use this Pilot Hitec C slim refill that they use now. And I don't know. I like it. It's not for everybody. Right. Just like we've talked about the 2-2 pin a bunch on the show. And I know you've reviewed one and, uh, and, uh, you know, it's very much along those lines to where it's a thin pin. You know, it's like a flat rectangle, right? Like, I don't even know how to explain it. But if you don't have a traditional grip, you're not gonna like holding one of these pins, right? That's probably true.

'''Myke Madison:''' It's, I mean, it's, it's weird, but those rectangular pins are the flat ones are just kind of strange, but, uh, yeah, I've always found them kind of oddly comfortable, honestly.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Right. That's how it is for me too. Like even the, when Moleskine came out with their pins a few years ago, they did a wider rectangular and it just works for me. Like my grip works well with a rectangular shape pin. So it can go, you know, with the wider rectangular blocky shape, or it could go with this thinner shape of the pin type C. So of course, like I'm way into this pin, you know, I, I don't have one with a clip on it. So I've, I backed it and I look forward to getting it and, um, yeah, I'll be all about it. Is the type C using the, the Coletto cartridge? It is not. So they have a high tech C, um, slim cartridge that it's actually using.

'''Myke Madison:''' If you're coming across a tiny version of the high tech C cartridge, the Coletto, we thought it'd be fun to make it. Huh?

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Oh, I wonder if it doesn't look like the full link Coletto cartridge. So I'll have to look at it. I didn't double check through the, uh, through the, through the, uh, campaign. So they're calling it. Yeah, they are calling it the Coletto. But yeah, it's not as full. I get, I mean, without researching this at all, I know it's not the length of the Coletto. So, so maybe there's a shorter Coletto that I'm unaware of or something, but there's definitely a slim or I think it's called a slim. So we'll have to look it up. I'll put it in the show notes if I can find the version of it, but they have a small knock based single cartridge pilot high tech C. And that's what I was thinking this one was using.

'''Myke Madison:''' So maybe they're just taking the end off. Like looking at my Coletto cartridges, they've got this long, like, you know, color selector end, maybe they just take that off.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' And I don't, I don't know. Maybe so. Maybe so. Because the cartridge that I have in, um, in mine definitely has like the stop in it, you know, like the wax or whatever, you know, component is in there. Like it's not modified, but maybe it's just popped off the end of it. So let's see. So the slim knock uses a refill. Yeah. So there's a, uh, well, just like, just like Uniball pilot. LHSRF-8C gel pen refill. So that is for the, uh, high tech C slim knock. So I'm wondering if that's it. We'll look at it a little bit more. Um, so we'll see.

'''Myke Madison:''' Yeah.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Um, do you have any of the CW and T pens? Has that ever been a thing for you? Like it has been an obsession for me.

'''Myke Madison:''' No, I don't. Uh, I haven't. I don't love the, uh, the high tech C refill. Right. Right. They're always very like, I think the widest they get is a 0.5. That's sort of like the smallest I'll go.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. Yeah. So we got a question, which, um, as you'll see, as we go through this episode, Myke, we got a lot of questions. Yeah, we did. But this one from, uh, a cray says, what does Myke think of CW and T pens that we just found out and rank the A, B and C additions. So I can, I can handle that. It's, uh, pen type B is one and then nothing else matters. Um, really? The A is not that useful because it's strictly a desk pen and the C is just so highly specific. The B is so good. It's, it's the best by a long shot. Um, if you want something like if you're an engineer or a draftsman or something and you want the, the scale, the big aluminum scale on your desk, I guess the A is up your alley. And then, uh, the C is useful in particular situations, but the B I can use it all the time. That's my favorite.

'''Myke Madison:''' Is the ruler on the type A, like, is it, is it big? Is it too big to carry around?

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Oh yeah. Yeah.

'''Myke Madison:''' Oh yeah.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' It doesn't look that much bigger than the B really. So. Oh yeah. It's, it's bigger. It's bigger and it, and it's pointy. So you like, can't really put it in your pocket or I don't know that you want to put it in a bag, right? It's, I won't say it's sharp, but it, you know, it has an edge to it. It's a block. I was going to go C, A, B, but I mean. Yeah. See, I'm all about the B because you can get, I have like a titanium sleeve and a brass sleeve and they just look cool. So I've used different, different types of sleeves on that. So that's good. We're, we, uh, we would rank completely differently and that's, uh, that's better than agreeing all the time in, in my book. And I think this next topic, Myke, um, before we move on is probably one we might disagree on to, not in what the topic is, but do you use field notes at all? Nope. Yep. So that's what I was thinking. So here's one, like Myke's looking at all these show notes, Brad put in here is like, yep, I don't do that. I don't do that. So let me ask you, do you use any type of pocket notebook regularly? Let's just, let's go that route.

'''Myke Madison:''' Uh, yeah, yeah. I like the, uh, I don't, so like, I'm not, I'm not really against field notes or whatever. It's just, uh, it's not the way I usually go for pocket notebooks. I, I mean, I appreciate their style and stuff, but, um, yeah, it's just not my, not my, my bag. Not your jam. Um, but like that's, that said, I don't think we're going to disagree about like the rest of the show note bit. Yeah. Yeah. This topic, but, um, yeah, yeah. I use, um, I generally like a top bound, uh, for, for my pocket carry mostly. Um, I've actually been carrying these things called, they're actually another right product that I just picked up in Baltimore, but this like totally different note, but the pocket flip book.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah.

'''Myke Madison:''' Cause it fits actually in my wallet. And so then I don't have to have two pockets with notebooks in them, you know?

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah.

'''Myke Madison:''' Uh, but yeah, otherwise I carry around like, uh, I don't know, like one of those smallish rodeo pads. It fits in my back pocket, that kind of thing. Cool. But, uh, yeah, yeah.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Field notes. Yeah. So we have to, we have to mention this because, you know, like I said, we got to stay on brand here at the pen addict podcast, but like you say, not every product's for everyone. And that's what we try to explain to people, you know, just because I like something or Myke likes something or Myke likes something, you know, you may not like any of it, but what we wanted to mention was I was asked about the field notes subscription price increase and they went from $97 for their annual subscription, which is four quarterly releases, two packs of notebooks, or sometimes they change it up and change the sizes. So it's not always two packs necessarily, but they went from $97 to $110. And that's the first time they've raised the price in the decade, in a decade. And it's like, they almost don't even have to, like they have to tell you, but it's so insignificant based over the history of the brand. They haven't increased the prices very much. They increased their three pack prices last year for the non craft three packs to $12.95, a three pack. I'm surprised they didn't increase the subscription price then. So this is kind of a no brainer. It doesn't really even move the needle for me, but I was asked about it multiple times. And it's just, yeah, I think, I don't think they're getting a lot of complaints out of this based on the value that you get. And it's still a really good deal for if you're into that type of thing for the notebooks.

'''Myke Madison:''' Yeah, right. Like I don't subscribe because frankly, I don't go through that many notebooks in a year. Right. But also like an increase of $13 over a year. I mean, whatever, people who are buying a field note subscription aren't going to care that much about a dollar a month.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yep.

'''Myke Madison:''' Yep. It's very, very minimal. Very inconsequential.