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== Jim Kudal Interview ==


'''Myke Hurley:''' I think it's my favorite episode of the show.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. I mean. Jim's a fascinating guy. Oh. Just. Yeah. So much. And he can. And he can talk too. Right. You just get him on a topic. And he's gone.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Once we started going. And I had somebody. I can't remember who it was. But somebody tweeted me and was like. The reason that they thought it was the best episode. Was because we clearly had such a shared interest.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Especially for the Field Notes stuff. That once we just. Once we got going. It was just. There was no stopping us. It wasn't really an interview at that point. It was a conversation between us.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Right. But even the deck stuff. I found interesting. Yeah. Not to totally turn this into the Command Space stuff. But I mean. You know. Just talking about how that came to be. And all the sites that. You know. He's worked with in the past. And that. You know. You're familiar with. Or you work with. In the case of 5x5. And things like that. So there was just a lot of. Shared common ground. To where y'all can have these conversations. To where it just became that. Like it was a conversation. Not necessarily an interview. So I thought you did a great job. Thank you. But yeah. Jim covers lots of good Field Notes stuff. He talks about. You know. How it came to be. And he talks about. You know. The mistake they made. Which we've talked about before. The mistake they made. When they printed the Butcher Blue. The Butcher Blue. You know. They. They didn't account for the subscription. The color subscribers at the time of their account. So they. Yeah. Because they printed. Through to be able to ship everything.

'''Myke Hurley:''' They printed the orange and the blue at the same time. So they printed the same amount. And then. They then. After they. When they launched the orange. They launched the colors as well. Yes. Sold them. But then. So. Then started selling the blue. And then. Realized that they hadn't. Accounted for enough. For the. They. They hadn't pulled any aside. To get to subscribers. So then they had to pull them from sale. And send out. The rest of the head to subscribers.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Right. So they didn't have. Almost. Any available for. You know. Retailers. Or just for sale on the website. Or anything. So. That's. That's the tough one. It's not the first one. That's the rarest. Although it's. It's awfully. Awfully rare. The butcher orange. The blue. Is the real. The real one there. To. To get your hands on. If you're. You're an obsessive. Field notes collector. Like so many people are. So. And then. On. Addition to that. You know. Brian Bedell. Who is. I guess he's the. I don't know. If he's a product manager. I don't know. His exact title.