Editing The Pen Addict 660/transcript (section)

== Discussion on orange inks and their characteristics ==

* Yeah, this one was hard too because it really depends on where you want the brightness of it. And so, yeah, I had Diamond Pumpkin and Diamond Orange as two what I would call very good examples of straight up oranges that don't actually look alike. Yeah, exactly. And yes, I also had Ackerman 16, Orange Bovin, and then also Kobe 25 Turumi Apricot. But Turumi Apricot is also a little bit more electric than your typical orange.
* And then one that I would say was pretty, fairly good orange too is Scribo's Aranjo de Sicilia, which is a beautiful orange ink. I didn't think it, it had a bit of shading, but I wouldn't call it like a super shading kind of ink. So it was just a really nice orange. I'll have to look at that one. I haven't tried that one. I think I've seen pictures of it, but I have not tried that yet. I also don't need to drop their bottles on my foot. So I kind of like keep away from them a little bit. They're huge glass bottles. I would love to read a murder mystery where someone gets killed with a bottle of Scribo 90 mil.
* They're kind of amazing. Amazing. I said you could build one of those like non-see-through like bathroom shower walls, right? Like the glass bricks. They're like glass bricks. Yes. They're kind of amazing. Kind of amazing. All right. Let's get to what I think was honestly the most difficult to pick just because of availability for these colors. And that's yellow. So why don't you tell me what you thought about yellow? Yeah, I don't have any straight up yellows, yellows, partly because it is not always the most easy to read. And then also because a good straight up yellow, I mean, also they just don't make that many that are a straight up yellow. There's a lot of yellows that lean brownish or lean orangey, but not really what I would call a true yellow. So the only two that I really thought were good candidates were the Pilot 100th Anniversary Daiko Kuten and the Colorverse Project Series No. 8 Ornament Yellow. I know a lot of people talk about Rohr and Klingner's Helianthus as a good yellow ink, which I do think is a good yellow, but not for this purpose. It's actually a bit too orange, in my opinion, for this category. I totally agree with everything you just said. Yellow is difficult because a pure Roy G. Biv yellow color is practically unusable. We need some other color in there to actually see them on the page when we're writing with our pens, which is why I'm a super fan of Daiko Kuten. But I didn't consider it for this because it's, I don't know, it's almost like a little bit golden orangey. I don't know. But it was impossible. Like, it's impossible. If you don't have these swatches sitting in front of you or, you know, you're able to look them up online, it was really hard to pick them up. I thought the Colorverse one, Ornament Yellow, did come up as a really, really nice yellow. Diamine Yellow, which I'm not just going to pick Diamine Inks for all this. You could probably go answer this with all Diamine Inks, and I have at least one more on this list for colors.
* Diamine Yellow seemed actually pretty good. And then for like the specialty lineup, Myke actually uses this ink. It's Sailor 770. It's a really bright yellow. I just don't know if you can get it right now. So I don't know if they're still making the Sailor Ink Studio line, if you can get them. I think yes, but I don't know. I think so. Yeah. I just, I, again, it's tough because I don't seek out inks that I don't plan on. Oh, that's not true. I was going to say, I don't seek out inks I don't plan on using, but I clearly have. But, you know, a straight up yellow like that, it's just not something that I would actively seek out. And therefore, I don't have any swatches for. Yeah, exactly. All right, let's go to green. I think green's the easiest, right? Because I think... Maybe? It's my least favorite, which is maybe why I didn't want to spend a lot of time on it. But Robert Oster Emerald just looked like a really just mid-green. I'm saying that like it sounded like in a derogatory way, but like it is just basic, like Mont Blanc Irish green, right? That's the first thing that came to mind. That's on your list. That's on your list. I cannot use that ink color. I just don't use that ink color at all. So, but between Robert Oster Emerald and Tasha Midori, those were kind of like the mid-greens that I liked to answer this. What did you think about green? Because I think you differ a little bit than me. Yeah, so I didn't go with Tasha Saba Midori because it is too teal for me. Not the Saba Midori. They have one just Midori. Yes, sorry. Yes, never mind. I didn't... I kind of went with something a little bit different. The first one is a nice straight up, I think of it, borderline spring green. It's the Rohr and Klingner Verdura. Verdura stands for... It means vegetables in Italian. That looks really good. That's a good color. I see this now. Yeah. And then I do have Mont Blanc Irish green. It is a little bit, a little darker. And then I liked Anderillium's Spirula Green and KWZ's Green No. 2, which is a very creative name. Maybe not. But... And then these are also close. Seconds would be Twisby Forest Green and Schaefer's Very Verde. Okay. Yeah. I'm going to have to look at these and see because like this is just... I just generally avoid like the just right in the middle greens. I like my greens really, really bright or I want like a black green. You know, it's like I am very much on the opposite end of the spectrum when it comes to green. And for me, I have a lot more greens that lean more olivey or greens that lean more teal. You know, and so same here. I don't have a lot of what I would call straight up greens. Yeah. Or sometimes there's too yellow, etc. So this was actually the rest of the rest of this was really, really hard for me to do. So this is... So up until this point, I think it's been pretty clear whether we have a good answer or not. I think our task has been pretty clear.