Editing The Pen Addict 544/transcript (section)

== Reflecting on 2022 and early podcast episodes ==


'''Brad Dowdy:''' So hopefully you're back and better than ever in 2023. This week on the show, I kind of wanted to close out 2022. Love it. Not with some like huge grand topic. I think maybe we'll talk about like 2023 goals and planning and, you know, themes and all that stuff in next week's episode once the calendar turns. But I've kind of, I've kind of gone into like the nesting cleaning phase to wrap up the year. So we're going to do a big segment on that towards the end of the show today because I have been just like totally getting into like cleaning, you know, and organizing. And this is a good week to do that. So we're going to, we're going to approach those topics later in the show. So until then, I want to, I want to catch up on a few things that we missed over the last few weeks of not being live. Again, thanks to Myke Rohde for being a guest on the last episode we published, episode 543. Did you remember that Myke was the very first interview guest we had on the Panatic podcast over 10 years ago?

'''Myke Hurley:''' I did not remember it until you told me.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yep. I think, what was it? Episode 17. Did I put that in that show? It was something like that. Yeah, 17. Like episode 17, Myke Rohde was getting ready to launch the sketchnote handbook. And 10 years on, he was celebrating the 10 year anniversary of the sketchnote handbook. So what better time to have him back on, talk about all things sketchnoting. And it's still just going great with the whole sketchnote, you know, sketchnote infrastructure, I guess. You know, everything is moving along smoothly. And it was great to kind of catch back up with him. Introduced people to Myke who maybe haven't known about sketchnoting for the past 10 years. And what Myke's involvement is with, you know, sketchnoting the whole movement and what he's been up to. So that was fun. We really enjoyed that chat. It was great. I did listen back to our original interview with Myke. So I was listening to it and all that we heard and it came back vividly. Everything wherever Myke was recording, not you, Myke, the other Myke, Myke with an I, was recording was essentially like a downtown window room with like no like audio support. And it was just horns honking the whole time in the background. Yeah, because, you know, it's that point, you know, we weren't necessarily like completely dialed into our recording editing process. But it was very funny to listen to that compared to now. Hey, Brad, come on, man.

'''Myke Hurley:''' You can't say that. Do you remember the episode with the shower? No. We had, I'm not going to name names. We had a guest on the show. Yes. He was in one room, right? Yes. We could hear the shower in the background because they were in like a studio apartment. So like, look, you know, these things, like this is just what happens with guests, especially on this show who are not like, they don't have podcasts. They don't think of this stuff, you know? Yeah.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' So I was pretty confident that Myke was, Myke has his own podcast and his own podcast network and shoots videos for Sketching. I knew he was going to be dialed in this time. But yeah, that's what we did. That's what we did last time. You know, that's just what we do around here. Sometimes, Myke, you just got to go with the flow and look the windows down and turn the showers on.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Listening to the episode. You know, like Myke has done such an incredible job of building like a whole thing around Sketchnotes. Like it really is very impressive what he is, what he has done with that since that first conversation that we had with him, you know? Right. But like to the level that Sketching is. And what I also really appreciated was his honesty and the way he felt like when he started seeing other people do it and was like, no, this is mine. How dare you? And then was like, no, no, wait a second. Like, let's think about this. I just liked that he just spoke about having that process because I can understand what that must have felt like for him at the time. But because he was able to embrace the idea of this being a community thing, look where he is now. Where if he would have tried to lock that down, you know, not that you could have, but let's imagine that that was his like, he didn't want to share it. He wanted it to just be for him. And like his plan was he would just go to conferences forever and do these like on a fee, which could have been a route that he'd taken. He wouldn't, that Sketchnoting would not be as well known and as successful as it is now. So super cool.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah, I thought that was a very important part of the conversation. That's something that you and I definitely like believe in that idea of like promoting it for all. Right. You know, let everyone use, use these things. And like you could do an entire episode just on that specific topic about like, like, you know, you and I run businesses around things that we create. And, you know, how do you manage, you know, questions like that that come up and like that could be like an entire hour long conversation just on that topic. So it was great to hear that from Myke. And I, you know, just like you, I was like nodding my head the whole time. Right. Like, yeah, like that's, that's what we believe in. And that's why Myke's Myke was back on 10 years later to like talk about this because of what he's done. And that's hard to wrap my head around. Right.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' That I did overthink that a couple of times when I was writing the show notes and going back. I was like, really, I'm having to go back to like episode 17 or whatever it was to like re to re listen to this. And I was like, oh, my gosh. Yeah.