Editing The Pen Addict 376/transcript (section)

== Surfing Analogy ==


'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. There's a way that you're, you're just, you're, you're like, if you were to surfing, you're like still paddling out.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. Yeah. You, you, you basically at the moment you are doing the surfing lesson where you're still on the sand.

'''Adina Hurley:''' Oh my God.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. Like you're, you're doing the jump up thing.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. You found the nice beach. Like you're there. You hit the destination and now you're starting to paddle and there's going to be some pretty cool waves coming and we'll, we'll see how you ride them.

'''Adina Hurley:''' Yep. We'll see.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Wait until you start finding pens that have been created by Japanese artists. who like the one I'm using today, who, you know, some, somebody sat with a little hammer and knocked some marks into some steel and wrapped it around a sailor pro gear. That's when you're on the wave at that point. You've got a way to go. Yeah.

'''Adina Hurley:''' Okay. How many years does, uh, Oh, it depends. Eight years.

'''Myke Hurley:''' It took me eight.

'''Adina Hurley:''' Yeah. We, yeah, we go for the phases.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. You got some time. Although to be honest, it, but it took me and Brad a while to get into fountain pens and you've just jumped straight into fountain pens.

'''Adina Hurley:''' Oh yeah. You were saying that how surprised I was, but yeah, we'll see how it goes. So far. I'm just, I love using the ones that I have and I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything. And I'm still, I'm still, um, I know that I, if I get bored of anything, I can bring in the new inks and feel, make them feel new again for a while.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' That's exactly right.

'''Myke Hurley:''' I just took a look at my desk and I'd like to give an update on my platinum, uh, the 3776 galaxy. I haven't brought myself to part of it yet. It's still sitting here, but you have, you like have an

'''Brad Dowdy:''' address to ship it to. You just haven't done it. Yeah.

'''Adina Hurley:''' So, so I am in charge of the logistics part and I have a reminder on my list to remind Myke to put the broken nib into the pen to replace that so I can send it. But I just can't bring myself to telling that to Myke because I know he is very sad to part with it and it will take a while. He needs to be in the right emotional space to, to, you know, to accept that this will need to happen. But I have a reminder and I keep it up there. Top of mind.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. We'll, we'll let him get past, uh, iPhone announcements and St. Jude charity. So maybe in early October we can, we can get him to ship it back.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. Let's wait until I have some new toys and nails.

'''Adina Hurley:''' Okay.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Idina could tell you right now that I've picked up and started lovingly fondling the pen while we were talking about that. So that's where I am in my life.

'''Adina Hurley:''' Yeah. I knew it wasn't going to happen anytime soon. Let's give him a new phone and then we can take the galaxy away from him.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' That's right. That's right. Just distract him.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Do you have anything that you're interested in trying more of now that you've kind of, you're, you've arrived at the beach as we say, like, is there anything that like you now have in your mind of like, Oh, I think this might be an avenue I'd like to explore. And it doesn't have to be buying tons and tons of more pens, but like, is there anything that is, has become more interesting to you post the show?

'''Adina Hurley:''' Um, I think it's, uh, I, I have loved seeing this new trend of, uh, being able to customize your own pens. And that's even taking a really,

'''Myke Hurley:''' Oh, you're going to, you've gone too far. No, but I mean, you want to talk about money.

'''Adina Hurley:''' No, no, but no, I don't mean that. I don't mean, um, craziest artisan Japanese style or anything. I, and I'm thinking more about the, this pen. I saw the Bungu box stand, I think, where they took a TWSBI Eco and they painted watermelons on it.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Oh, but that takes like a, what is, what are those pens? Like $50 and they charge like $200 for them. It's not as bad. This is a great thing to be in, but like custom. Now we're into a whole other board game.

'''Adina Hurley:''' I just feel that when you get to the, I love the fact that we don't need to be pretentious about it and we can take like a $50 pen, how much TWSBI Eco can be and still make it our own. And I love this thing. I, it makes it's, it gets me thinking, how could I make it? Make a pen my own. Like, why would I paint on it? Okay. I'm quite, and it's, it feels modern as well. I don't know why. And I just love that idea. I, it's not for now. It's not for now, but, uh, I really love that idea. And I also hearing you guys that you're taking your, can I, I don't know whether I can talk about this.

'''Myke Hurley:''' No, we're not talking about that yet. We're not talking about anything. But me and Brad are working on some, some stuff, but we're not talking about it.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Lots of things.

'''Adina Hurley:''' Yeah.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. Yeah. Just, just the fact that Adina now knows who Bungu Box is. That's all I need out of this entire trip. That's all I need. Like that is just glorious in and of itself. So.

'''Adina Hurley:''' Oh no. Um, but yeah, they really had one of a kind stuff. And I loved the thing that it wasn't factory, um, manufactured stuff, things that you can buy off the shelf, but they were made somehow unique. And I know that this is just the start into a bigger thing and how you get into owning a pen where someone knocks a new dent into it every day for a year. I know it's a slippery slope. Uh, as much as I want to lie to myself. Um, but the other thing, and it's not necessarily about pens, but it's more about how to think about writing ink and whatever. It's, um, I wanted to say that I really love the, the workshops that, uh, lay organized at the pen show. One of them being creative journaling and one of them being the mad scientist Mo Dawn. And she really taught me to, basically after those two workshops, I'll never look at journaling or ink the same ever again. And it just taught me to get more used to imperfection or just taking ink and splodging it on paper and smearing it around and putting bleach on it. And it just felt like so much fun. And the, that's something that I'm interested right now in doing more of, um, in, and just using more of the techniques that she has taught us and using my own inks and pens and whatever tools I have around to play with that sort of stuff.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah, I think that's fantastic. There's a, uh, it's, it's weird to say, but like giving yourself the permission and the freedom to do those types of experiments is like a learned thing. It doesn't come natural to, to allow yourself to just be as free as someone like Leia is. And it's cool that she has these classes and gives you tips and shows you all the things that she does.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Because if anything, she is then, she is then in charge of giving you the permission to do it. Right. So you don't need to give yourself the permission then because she's done it for you. And I think that can be beneficial for a lot of people.