Editing The Pen Addict 660/transcript (section)

== Introduction of Kimberly and her hobbies ==

* As you mentioned, I am all the hobbies on Instagram, although if you look at my Instagram, it is really pretty much just one hobby, which is the stationery rabbit hole that I've fallen into. But there have been a lot of other hobbies, and hopefully after foot surgery next month, I will be re-engaging back into the running hobby again. So, wish me luck. I do. I think you were, like, probably the very first time I met you, you were running pretty actively all these years ago. So, yeah, I'm sure you're ready to get back into that and get past the pain. So, yeah, good deal. Well, I thought you would be the perfect candidate for answering all of our listener questions. And since Myke's been out, when Myke's here, we usually try to do a couple of weeks. Sometimes we don't have time to even get into them. And every now and then we'll do a big catch-up episode. Well, I thought, you know, Kimberly would be great to answer all the questions. She's smarter than I am. And has... You said that. Everyone heard it. Everyone heard it. And, you know, you're dialed into this. So, I thought, let's go down the Ask CPA questions. I will be the question reader today and then we'll, you know, collaborate on the answers on what we need to do here. I started off with a banger. I kind of did this on purpose. I didn't really, you know, rank and move around the questions. I basically just copied them. So, you can go to penaddictfeedback.com to leave us feedback. You can email me hello at penaddict.com. Content from both of those places has filled out the Ask TPA sheet today. But I did put this one first on purpose because it took some research from both of us. I cheated on that. I'll let you know how momentarily. But let me get to it. So, from Gustavo. I'm looking to have a collection of inks that each represent the truest form of each color of the rainbow. The Roy G. Biv scale. By truest, I mean something with no shimmer, minimal to no sheen, and shading. And each try to hit the hue of the color dead center, like a red that's really red and not slightly orange or not slightly pink. Think what Chokuro does for black inks, though not necessarily pigmented. What inks would you place in such a collection? First off, Kimberly, what did you think when you read this collection? I mean, when you read this question. Oh, dear God, was my first reaction. Me too. Me too. And then I rapidly scrolled through the others to go, oh, okay, they aren't all this going to be this scary. But this is probably one of the hardest questions to answer, for sure. And I completely agree. And I think it's difficult because people like you and I and a lot of our friends do not use the very straightforward colors. Like, we're not getting, like, the most standard red in the rainbow, right? We're getting lots of reds and might have a bunch of lovely reds, but they're all going to lean, you know, maybe maroon. We might have one, like, really bright red that looks like a traditional, like, red marker, right? Or something like that. But it was super hard. So I'm going to let you go first with the red. But I want to say that I did cheat today, Kimberly. I did a little bit of wisdom of the crowds on Twitch because, yeah. So we spent, yeah. Wrong. That's so wrong. I had to do this by myself. Yeah, I know. Made my swatch cards all by myself. Yeah, we did this for at least 30 or 40 minutes just to get through these colors. And there's some challenges along the way, which we'll get to. But I think this is a great place to start. Let's start with red. And what were you thinking about when you were thinking about a just straightforward Roy G. Biv red? So the two that I picked out, this first one I would probably pick over the second one. But it's the KWZ UK Pen Shows Beef Eater Red. It is a very solid red red. And I really like it a lot. It's pretty saturated and a wet ink. And if you don't mind the slightly vanilla scent of the KWZ inks, it's awesome. It is obviously a little harder to get because it was an exclusive to the UK pen shows. But if you can't get that, I actually really like Robert Oster Red Candy, which I believe a certain other pen addict enjoys as well. Yeah. So we're going to talk. I'm glad we don't have our list shared like right now to see what we each put down. And I didn't. In the end, I went off of red candy. But for a red red, that is my red. Right. Red candy. It's, I felt in the end, it leaned a little bit too dark. But it's just such a good red. It's a really good color. It's really hard. Like you said earlier, you know, I mean, to be smack dab in the middle of a particular color is really, really hard. I had a couple others that I would say maybe were close, but they weren't, I wouldn't say they were my favorite of the red reds. Diamine Matador and J. Urban's Moulin Rouge were also two candidates as well. But I don't know. This one was, this one, I mean, they were all hard to be honest. But those were the four that I managed to pick. So we will have a bunch of links in the show notes. I'm probably, I'll go ahead and tell y'all right now, we could end up with 50 links just from this category. So I'll probably pick two or three from each category to link in the show notes so y'all can play along at home and see what y'all think about these colors. The answers that I ended up going with in talking with Twitch chat, I tried to end up with two inks. And I tried to end up, not always successfully, with something that was readily available, right? If you could went to an online pen shop or an in-person pen store, they're probably going to have. And then maybe something like a little bit, you know, harder to get. And this first one's like a really good example. So the red that most people put down, and I've never used it, but I always hear it when it comes up with red, is Schaefer's Script Red. It's this color of red that is what I call pen company red, right? Like Lamy, Pelican, all of these colors tend to be a little bit light. I don't know if you've ever used that one. I have, and I love it as a, you know, if I was a teacher editor and had to use red to correct people, I would probably pick that one. But I didn't pick it because in my swatches, it leans ever so slightly orange to me, just a touch. But that was a borderline one for me too. But that was definitely a very close, very close. The kind of outlier ink that was on the list, and I think in the end it might be something I even look at as not a red ink user, Birmingham Fire Hydrant. We looked at images of this. I don't have it. Like I don't have all of these, so we're just trying to figure out images online to check out. This one really pops. It's really, really vibrant. Again, I can only tell from the images and everyone's computer screen is going to be a little bit different. And, you know, the samples are going to show off different colors depending on how the samples are done and edited. But I thought Fire Hydrant was something at least I wanted to look at down the line. All right. Let's get into orange. I'll go first this time. And shockingly, well, to the shock of no one, there were two inks you listed here. One which I definitely went with for my little bit of an outlier color. Ackermann number 16 is just a crazy, I call it traffic cone orange. It's a little bit fluorescent for the orange. I almost went with diamine pumpkin or diamine orange for those oranges. Orange is more standard, a little bit like a traditional orange peel color where pumpkin has a little bit, it's a little bit hotter. I don't know exactly how to describe it. It's a little bit more fiery of an orange for pumpkin. Totally agree. Totally agree. I was looking, one of the resources, and I'll put this in here, is Kelly's Ink Swatches Online at Mountain of Ink. Aurora Orange is shockingly basic in a good way, right? Most of these standard inks from companies just don't really do it for me. It was kind of the most straightforward orange I could find because orange, which we're going to find in the next color, yellow, orange can be very complex to just do a basic one, right? Almost all oranges lean on the red side or the yellow side or the honey side, right? Never just like it's hard to get just like a completely good orange. So what did you think about the oranges?