Editing The Pen Addict 194/transcript (section)

== Kickstarter ==


'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah, this is one of my favorite type things here. But we got to start off by talking about the Kickstarter. Okay. Because as we record this, we didn't talk about it last week purposefully. We didn't want to overload people. But as we record this on Wednesday the 24th, there are three days left to go. So you're going to mark that in your calendar. If you have not yet backed the RelayCon Atlanta Panadict Live Kickstarter, you only have a couple of days to go. And I want to underscore a couple of things. You will miss out on the awesome notebooks. We have those fantastic notebooks that Brad has been working really hard on, and they can look amazing. And that's the way that you're going to get those is through this Kickstarter. But I think even more importantly is the video. So we're going to be doing, as we did last year, a video version of episode 200. So that will be me, Brad, and Anna with our live studio audience that will be recorded. The audio will be out as normal for everyone. But if you want to see the video version, which was amazing last year, you will want to get that and check it out. Now, we have learned a lot from last year, so it's going to be even better. And there will also be a bunch of behind-the-scenes stuff where the three of us will be showing mainly, this was, I think, the best thing in the video last time, the stuff that we bought at the show.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Right. We don't do that as part of the live episode, generally.

'''Myke Hurley:''' No. We mention the things that we bought, but actually going into detail, showing all the stuff that we've purchased, showing some cool things that we find at the show, some backstage kind of stuff of the parties, and all that kind of stuff. The only way that you're going to see this is by backing the Kickstarter. We won't release the video afterwards as we did last time. So if you want to get it, get in and get it. And it looks like that we're actually going to beat last year's funding goal as well, which is absolutely amazing. So thank you so much to everybody that has pledged. Thank you so much to everybody that will. We really appreciate you helping us make RelayCon Atlanta happen again. We love you very dearly.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah. So on that topic, you snuck something in. You purposefully did something and didn't tell me about it this week.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yep.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' And it kind of relates to that because you know that I listen to a lot of podcasts, and you know specifically that I listen to Thoroughly Considered, which is with our friends Tom and Dan from Studio Neat. And they talk about, you know, building products and launching Kickstarters and do all these things. And I just had it queued up in my podcast player. And I didn't, you know, read the title. I didn't look at the show notes. It just started going. Then, like, y'all start right into talking about our Kickstarters for the Atlanta Pen Show, the one we did last year and the one we did this year. And I thought, okay, well, this is just like a little interlude type of a topic. But y'all went the whole episode talking about this, and it was really, really interesting to hear how that show played out. I went from, like, yelling at my speaker to, like, okay, this worked out, like, perfectly. So why don't you tell everyone what happened, how this episode happened, what it was kind of about. And, you know, I can interject some things in there, too.

'''Myke Hurley:''' So basically on the show, I'm Thoroughly Considered, we usually talk about the products that Dan and Tom make and the thinking that goes into it. But obviously one of the big underpinnings of the way that they work is Kickstarter. It's a big part of their business. So considering the fact that I am part of a currently running Kickstarter, we decided to turn the spotlight on me for an episode, and we spoke about the Pen Addict Kickstarter, why we did it. We spoke about last year's and why we do it and stuff like that. And one of the big themes of the episode was Dan and Tom not understanding why me and Brad don't want to make a ton of money out of this. Because there is possibility for me and Brad, and we know this, to make a lot more money from the Pen Addict Kickstarter than we do.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Why?

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah, why?

'''Brad Dowdy:''' That was the best part of the whole show. Dan, the first time it came up and you relayed that fact that we're not trying to make money on this, Dan about had a conniption.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah, they really couldn't get it. And I understand that as well. Because, like, it is weird. Because everybody that gives money wants to give money. Like, we're not forcing anybody. But really, this is something that we want to continue doing into the future every year. Something people can expect. And it's really, the intention is to help me get to Atlanta and to help pay for us to do the special episode. Like, that's what it's about. And for me, having more money and making more money and keeping it doesn't feel right. Like, the money that we make from the Kickstarter, as we mentioned before, goes into the community and everything that is based around that show. And we do things for the backers. Like, you know, we did giveaways last year. We're probably going to do the same. And that's just something that's important to us. And it was just funny to have that kind of conversation with them as they were trying to understand why we don't want to make $50,000.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Yeah, and the further along it got, in the beginning, you know, you were more explaining the hows and whys. And they really weren't getting it. They were, I mean, I guess they were generally getting it. But they kept pushing you to, well, I still don't understand why you don't try to make more money. Why don't you add this? Why don't you do this? Why don't you actually try to, you know, make this as part of your profit? And, excuse me, it took a while to get to the point where you actually told this part, you know, about, well, the reason we do it is, you know, you got deeper into the reasons. And I was like, oh, okay. And they're like, okay, I see that. Then they're like, but still, you know. But it was good. I mean, it's important to me and you to not ask for too much. I don't want to be overbearing to people. I mean, we ask for a lot of things. And you don't want to be constantly hitting people up for money. And you don't want to be forcing things. Because when you do want to do something really cool, that's when you want the support, right? You don't want, you know, just everything to be about money. And we've set that up this way and we couldn't be happier with the results we get from this. And it's just absolutely perfect. And, you know, listen to them. Hear you talk about that was very, very interesting. But it turned out really, really well, I thought. Thank you.